"No matter how much I ask, I never get any news on Microsoft VR," says Tessera Studios' Pablo Lafora.
You mean on Xbox. They have VR built into Windows 10.
Honestly I find it IMPOSSIBLE that MS would go another generation without a VR headset. They will be doomed if they don’t at the very LEAST mention at reveal of Xbox Two that there will be a VR headset soon.
VR is still unproven
How is it unproven? And does that mean MS doesn’t do anything unless somebody else proves it first?
Doomed? Really absolutely not MS needs to stay laser focused on 1st party for awhile. Venturing off spreading themselves thin on VR shouldn't be their focused.
They dont have to support it. So why is that a problem for them if they dont? News flash but each company can pretty much do their own thing if they want to.
@Angelic Xbox Two will be DOA without an answer to PSVR.
I think it's fine. They should focus on perfecting their core business with their new investments and not the niche market of VR.They need fewer things to juggle right now. VR is still in its infancy and isn't a big money making element yet that their shareholders will mind anyway.
@Angelic VR will allow their 1st party developers to have more opportunities for games, Ninja theory has experience in VR from Hellblade, they could easily have a small team working on a vr on
"They will be doomed" Lol.
I wouldn't say doomed lol. VR is not that big. But it would be nice to have it on Xbox. They can literally flip a switch and support all Windows Mixed Reality headsets. Those apps/games are built on UWP.
I don't see a reason for them not to add support. Xbox does run Windows 10 which already supports it. My best guess is they are just worried about the Consumer Support aspect of VR. Some users love it, some users hate it and some users just get really sick.
@mybelovedhate I’m almost 100% sure they will announce a headset at reveal of Xbox Two. As to consumers, anyone who has actually tried it loves it. Convenience is an issue especially if people don’t have a stationary chair for gaming. But as to satisfaction, there will be no issues especially because next gen VR will be even better.
Yeah. Get the basics before you go for the extras ala Kinect and by basics I mean first party output from management of old franchises to the creation of new.
They don’t need one, and they can simply make it VR compatible and use Oculus or Vive.
@DillyDilly: Unproven in that PSVR seems to be the only minimal success. The only thing offering VR a foothold in the general consumer market. @AngelicIceDiamond: "MS needs to stay laser focused on 1st party for awhile." ... ... ... When...when have they started...?
@Maybe I think you're right, it makes sense to expand their DXVR to X2 because the API's are pretty close to their PC counterparts. However, unless MS is actually in it to support it with their own software, they'd be leaving support up to 3rd party developers, and if they don't get enough of it, then it makes VR a hard sell on the system, which can make it harder to get adoption to get said 3rd party support, and then MS ends up with the blame for having a lackluster implementation of VR on their system. So, technically, it makes sense, but from a business stand point, they'd have to actually want to make VR a viable aspect of their next system, and promote it as something that's worthwhile on the system, which would require they do what they can in house to make it a worthwhile product for their system. But, as others have said, MS needs to focus on the core and get that straightened out, and if they're going to push XCloud, that isn't going to work well with VR. VR may just end up being a distraction for them if they go into it with a half interested attitude.
@DillyDilly "VR is still unproven" *Looks across room. Sees PSVR headset sitting there after recently using it and enjoying it for 2 years.* Unproven? I must have been imaging myself using VR and having it working as well as I'd dreamed it would for two years, then. Maybe I'll wake up soon and have some Cornflakes?
Why would it be doomed? What makes you say that?
Bit sensational there bro.
doomed over VR? haha....nah
@Wood Lol, it’s probably the caps. I’m just saying there is no way they would not announce a headset when the announce the next Xbox. It would be a very bad move. A lot of people are excited for VR. Personally I’m looking forward to see what can be done in VR with more powerful hardware.
I think they'd be smarter to work in the AR space.
MS hasn't proven they can create enough great games to support XBOX in general let alone an added VR platform. Its probably more than they can bare or be responsible for. Doesn't matter to me I will be sticking with Playstation next generation.
@Storm Really now you wanna bet money? MS is doing just fine with out it now. Nextbox will be DOA with out AAA games line up launching right the next the new console everybody and their unborn child knows this its basically universal law at this point. I dunno where tf you been but MS has been struggling with AAA output, since forever now so no, hell no VR another device won't save them, but hurt them, like allot. "half of MS studios are now doing VR for nextbox" you really think that would go over well With gamers? @gold once MS has 1st party trust back and 1st party on lock. Then yeah they can venture off and do VR because MS is trustworthy and competent in delivering consistent high quality and rated exclusives.
Microsoft will take the easy road and simply make Xbox compatible with Oculus and/or Vive.
***Microsoft will take the easy road and simply make Xbox compatible with Oculus and/or Vive.*** Or both. And, honestly, I don't see that as a negative.
"Microsoft will take the easy road and simply make Xbox compatible with Oculus and/or Vive." Exactly, they only need to make the API compatible on xbox one x and XB2. Thing is they need not depend on 3rd party only. They have to show 1st party support.
Perhaps MS isn’t planning on creating a VR set of their own like Sony does, but add support for Oculus/HTC Vive on Xbox in the future? I dunno. I guess they wait it out a bit, to see if VR truly has a future in games.
Not sure why you are getting disagrees. What you typed is factually correct. Windows 10 does have VR support while Xbox currently does not.
Yeah I think he meant on Xbox
It's in the title.
The title reads, MS Seems To Have No Interest in VR, Next Xbox May Not Have it. So yeah, it isn't in the title. It is either clickbait or bs. I don't care either way, just pointing out that it is incorrect. Sorry if you don't like factual things pointed out.
A comment from the article: "This is why Windows is Microsoft's best gaming platform. Every 1st party game, and you have Windows Mixed Reality, or if you choose, HTC Vive or Oculus Rift are options as well. Next gen I will get PS5 + PSVR2, and PC + WMR. In my opinion, Microsoft is doing what they should have done all along and making Windows an amazing Gaming Platform. I think Xbox would be a better platform, if it was just a custom Windows PC for the Media Center. Give Windows every feature of the XBO on the gaming side, and give XB4 full blown Windows 10, and Microsoft would have an extremely competitive gaming brand with Xbox+Windows."
I remember Phil saying XB1X would be the premier console for VR, then completely shutting down any talk of VR and basically avoidingg the subject altogether.
That is a fine argument. Phil runs Xbox, not Microsoft.
I didn't read the article, I was only arguing the Title. And he clearly says Microsoft. Again, don't care. Just pointing out the inaccuracy. But I know you love you some bias inaccuracy so have at it.
They could led Xbox live be play on VR without utilize Xbox brand
True. This is the story of Microsoft's investments in gaming though. Late effort, maximum profits. Gaming was actually in a pretty immature state before Sony got involved with PlayStation and sold gaming as something more than a kid's toy. As big as a brand as Xbox is, it's not even close to synonymous with gaming as PlayStation is to a global audience. Already at this stage Sony (along with Samsung and others) has helped shift the perception of VR as being an expensive thing for enthusiasts only. The later MS leaves it the less chance they have to make an impact as strong as Sony did with the original PS and retain an audience as strong as they have. I'm also guessing a Game Pass and streaming focus makes it harder to focus on something like VR where latency is paramount.
oh cool, well I guess I'll stick with Sony then.
Sony VR sales is not exactly flying off the shelf.....
Compared to who?
https://www.engadget.com/20... Sold a million units in 8 months as of recent.
Actually, it's the best selling VR hardware.
MS is too far behind to try it now. They will just waste money.
They're really not far behind at all. VR is still in its infancy. There hasn't been that big boom yet that solidifies a market leader. We're in the stage that any newcomer can come in and take the market by storm. But it hasn't happened yet.
Dont fool yourself, it takes building relations in the VR community and getting experience making VR games. If MS doesnt respond with a VR headset, they will be infants compared to the competition.
Maybe not a big boon, but if MS doesn't get its foot in the door early, they're not going to be prepared when that big boon hits. Although I think it will remain niche for next gen as well. But if they go too long without being seen as having an interest in VR, it's not going to help them if they rely on others to do all the leg work for them. MS can't be a follower all the time and gain respect in the market, because MS is finding out most people aren't going to wait on them to get into the game before they buy in.
Yes, It will happen next generation... for those who have It. MS is out.
@Mtstogan There's a clear winner if we're talking about the "high-end" VR experience. The problem is the "experience" part of VR. There simply isn't anything nor enough games that really show VR as a necessity for gamers at home. Until we're able to get immersive, AAA, high budget VR experiences across multiple genres VR won't be ready, and there's still improvements to be made with the technology such as in-game camera jerkiness by looking around too fast, controls / controllers, quality / resolution. VR isn't where it needs to be on the PS4, don't get me wrong there is fun to be had, and it's an acceptable attempt, but the technology needs to evolve, and the PS5 will fix the quality aspect of VR, and hopefully a remodeled headset with better resolution, better controllers, and eventually better experiences.
They are too far behind now is because the XBox One was designed & focus on a "Cool & proven tech" of Kinect. MS is wise to avoid another such trap.
And Gamers have no interest in Xbox.
60 million people disagree. But keep telling yourself that.
Lol, 60 million. You realise that 60 million MAU is across all platforms, not just Xbox? Considering how poorly Xbox sells it's clear interest in Xbox is dying.
Well this gamer has no interest in Sony, speak for yourself
After buying ps vita and ps4 pro and being disappointed with how Sony handled both devices I have no interest in Sony as well
Trust me when I say this. MS isn't happy with Xbox sales since launch. Nothing changed to this day. It's also hard for them to secure big exclusives from 3rd parties because of that. Them buying few studios was a very needed move.
And women have no interest in your micropenis
I think VR is going to be the future of gaming or at least a significant part of it, not a fad like 3D. Sony have done the right thing building a solid platform for it.
I agree but I feel adoption rate is pretty slow meanwhile I just got myself a PSVR 2 weeks ago and I love it. It's like falling in love with gaming all over again. :)
It probably is quite slow but you've got one, I'm getting one soon and I don't know about you but I was never that bothered before. It feels like it's turned a corner from novelty to must have to me.
super hot, Tetris effect, Beat saber Moss, Astro B, RE7 all must owns for VR
@Goldby if all I ever played was beat saber and astro bot the PSVR would still have been worth a purchase :)
Farpoint is good with the aim controller. Firewall is online MP only so it is not for some.
I agree. The second generation of PSVR will certainly have better tracking, better resolution, and less wires. And almost certainly will have backwards compability with existing PSVR library with built in upscaling to help existing games look a little better. They're in a strong position.
Microsoft also has a solid platform on Windows. They're just not investing too much in it right now.
Ya people have trouble connecting vr popularity to original gaming popularity. In the 70's and 80's . They just see attach rates and assume its bad with no thought to the unfamiliarity of the tech.
These guys call themselves gamers but can’t even see that we are ushering a new generation similar to back when games went from 2D to 3D in the 1980s.