Xbox One Has Sold 41 Million Units Worldwide – Analyst

Sales of the Xbox One appear to be lower globally than many may have expected.

[Gamist2dot0]

I believe that's the number most of us predicted.

[darthv72]

that's better than some thought. It just seems to... plug along. It will probably sit somewhere between the NES and SNES numbers when it's all said and done. Very respectable, all things considered.

[TGGJustin]

I mean is it? The gaming market was nowhere near the size it is now back when the NES and SNES sold that much.

[UniqueGuy91]

In what world this number is respectable? Switch is about to overtake XB1 most likely by later this year and it was only in the market for just over 2 years.

Going by the NPD numbers, XB1 sold around 25 million in US and PS4 at 28 Million so far. That leaves only 16 million XB1 in the rest of the world compared to 64 million PS4's.

[_SilverHawk_]

Next generation I expect the next Xbox system to sell about 20 million or less due to play anywhere.

[Razzer]

"that's better than some thought."

Well, considering it was less than that just a couple of months ago, it seems "some" were right. I wouldn't call it respectable. it is lagging behind last gen numbers significantly.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

@TGGJustin

While the gaming industry was smaller, there was also far less competition. When you look at the NES, there wasn't anything competing on its level. Even the Sega Master System barely managed to compete. NES generated a ton of excitement when it came out, where all the kids were talking about it. Video games were still a relatively new experience at the time, and everyone wanted to try it out.

Compare that to Xbox One today, and you have heavy competition, not only from Sony and Nintendo, but also from the PC gaming sector. You also have more casual gamers using smart phones, which wasn't a factor in the 80s or even the 90s.

On top of all of that, people are still gaming on their Xbox 360s. I have played many backwards compatible games, where the people I'm playing with, never bothered to upgrade to an Xbox One, whether it's because they are content, or whether they don't have the money, that's anyone's guess. This is really the first generation to be affected by the fact that the previous generation of games are still relevant, and people are still playing these games online, which was not really much of a factor in the previous generations.

So I agree with DarthV72, with all things considered, its not bad. Analysts are predicting even fewer console sales across the board next gen. This is partially due to modern games being updated all the time with new content, and with many people being satisfied with their 1080p TV screens.

There will certainly be more people who stick with the current gen Xbox for many years, than there were with the Xbox 360. Not to mention, the Xbox 360 is integrated into Xbox Live across the board, with Xbox 360 friends showing up in your friends list and with the ability to party up with people on both Xbox One and Xbox 360. So the 360 is still very relevant, particularly if you are a casual gamer. This will be the same thing with Xbox One, and especially with Xbox One X, since it already plays games in 4K.

[DarXyde]

That's lower than I thought. I honestly thought it was closer to 50 million.

Those aren't "bad" numbers since, yes, that floats around NES/SNES numbers, but given the size of the market today is much larger, that's really not great either. Granted, it's tracking a few million behind Xbox 360 which sold pretty well this time, but I'm sure Microsoft must not be happy that their market share has shrunken.

Come to think of it, PS3 and 360 did well, but when you think about how long the generation was, PS4 is doing considerably better than PS3 and Xbox One is doing a few million worse than Xbox 360 at this point.

[nix]

The sales number could be less... We just thought - it can't be that bad considering how well it did last gen. Maybe when they start selling well next gen they'll probably start announcing numbers. Until then we're stuck with "number of bullets shot".

[NarutoFox]

I guess that's decent. The Switch will be over 45 million by the end of the year

[Critic4l_Strik3]

@UniqueGuy91

True

[Ceaser9857361]

silverhawk

"Next generation I expect the next Xbox system to sell about 20 million or less due to play anywhere"

This, i have seen this and actually few friends of mine are into racing and football so i did suggest them Forza and asked them to get the xbox one but they said Nope since they have a PC ... few of them have a PS4 to play exclusives only... So yes! Play anywhere did actually put a break on XBOX sales where people here Disagrees or not... But that's a fact..

MS on the other hand did benefit from this because of software sales, hence they are doubling down on 1st party studios and now we hear MS wants to be NETFLIX of Gaming, catering to a much larger audience and not xbox and win 10 users only.

If Sony had Play anywhere it would have been the the same too..

[letsa_go]

@Ceaser9857361 I agree, I sold my xbox one as soon as they announced PlayAnywhere since I already had a capable gaming pc. Seemed redundant to me to keep the xbox one. Now that xbox 360 emulation is starting to work well on PC, that gets rid of my other reason for wanting an xbox one.

[alb1899]

Taking in consideration that MS market is concentrate on 4 or 5 countries I don't find it bad at all and remember all confusion from the beginning of this generation.
But they are in a better position to compete in more markets next generation without any doubt.

[WelkinCole]

No it's not anywhere good. It's a year off from next gen and X1 is not even half of what x360 sold overall. Market wise it's a disaster

[bouzebbal]

No competition this gen.. Shame

[mandingo]

Remember when everyone said its less than 30 million

[Razzer]

Which very well may have been correct at the time. It is all speculation regardless. Either way, I doubt it was "everyone".

[mandingo]

People on n4g said that to this very day

[Razzer]

People on n4g said it was less than 30 million....today? Post the link then and we can all have a laugh

[RosweeSon]

Well it clearly was haha it’s now just got to 40 million ish. After Christmas period meaning it was only barely 30 million for long time

[rob-GP]

Nobody says under 35 atm. People, myself included, estimated 36-40 due to it being around 31 in Dec 2017. People on here said less than 40 due to numbers of and chips made, but that was based on info a few months back

[rainslacker]

You mean about a year or so ago? yeah, I recall that. I also recall a rather long thread on one article back around December which pegged it at around 38-39.

Now that we've established what people thought, why is it relevant? Especially since this analyst may be just as wrong or right as we all are/were. It's not like the analyst has access to data we don't, and there are those in the community which seem to be surprisingly accurate in extrapolating these numbers based on various facts available, and if they make their case well enough, it tends to become how most people around the internet figure out current sales numbers.

[Rude-ro]

Remember back when this information was released and did not need marked as “rumor”?
There is still no solid information to say exactly how many were sold.

[mandingo]

@razzer

[AmUnRa]

Who where that everyone you speaking off?

[dragonyght]

lol that was about year ago. nobody in sane mind would think it would stay at 30mil

[starchild]

I wouldn't say most. I've seen people claim the PS4 has outsold the Xbox One at a 3 to 1 ratio so many times at this point, but it seems to be closer to 2 to 1.

[Sunny_D]

90 to 40 is not 2 to 1 lol. The article even mentions this.

[MoonConquistador]

@Sunny D - To be fair, 90 to 40 isn't 3 to 1 either. At times it's sold 3 to 1 but for the most part has been closer to 2 to 1 hence why the numbers are somewhere in between

[MoonConquistador]

Only on this site can people disagree with simple math.

Anyone wanna calculate 90/40 and tell me how it's closer to 3 to 1?

[RosweeSon]

People claim allsorts like xb1 tracking the same as 360 lol

[rob-GP]

3:1 is in Europe. Americans sales make it close to about 2.2:1

[rainslacker]

Assuming the 41 million is correct, and Sony's recently reported 91.6 million as of 12/31/2018

They'd be at roughly 2.25 : 1 worldwide

However, the 3:1 is typically for worldwide sales, or sometime EU/UK sales.

So, yeah, worldwide, it's closer to 2 : 1 than 3 : 1, but a quarter of a ratio point is pretty significant when dealing with large numbers.

[AmUnRa]

So do the numbers Xbox one sold say 41mln. PS4 sold 91mln.
So the gap is 50 mln. Thats sounds more, no it IS more than 2 to 1. Isn't it?

[starchild]

It's CLOSER to 2 to 1 than 3 to 1, which is what I said. It's about 2.25 to 1, but if people are going to be rounding they sure as hell shouldn't be saying 3 to 1.

[Muzikguy]

That's not lower than I expected.

[rainslacker]

What would us lowly forum goers know? We know there aren't any smart people in our community who can extrapolate numbers based on seemingly random known facts and put them all together to make a meaningful conclusion. /s

What's scary, is that the community can often do this with rather high precision, in a time frame which is well ahead of analysts, who I suppose get paid for their services.

That said, I think this is a bit higher than most predicted.

[TGGJustin]

It's actually right around where I expected. This is a machine that has only been selling around 7-8 million a year worldwide. It hasn't been doing anywhere near the PS4 numbers. Idk why there were people a year ago who were saying it was at 40+ million. The US is their biggest market and it has only been selling a few million here a year. It's dead in pretty much all of mainland Europe and Japan. The UK is good for them but that market as a whole isn't huge as game consoles typically only sell 10,000 or less there in a week through most of the year.

[YodaCracker]

This makes the Xbox One the 9th best selling console of all time! It will likely pass the SNES’s 49 million before the next Xbox arrives.

[letsa_go]

I like how we are celebrating 9th place now. lol

[kneon]

@letsa_go

That's the equivalent of getting a ribbon for participation.

[headshotfrosty]

All good. Not bad to be in the top 10 of all time considering the bungled start. It'll probably hit 50+ million after a few years of discounts into the next generation.

[Hedstrom]

When NES released in the 80s the world population was 3,4 billion. 2015 The world population is at about 7,4 billion.

[gravedigger]

So, X360 launch aligned - 50 million.

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

[TGGJustin]

Difference is they don't have a Kinect device this time that is going to cause their sales to soar. Plus they don't have the Europe presence they add last time. They might reach 50 million by the time it's done selling.

[TGGJustin]

@jakiah66 yeah well it isn't much like any $500 piece of hardware. It did increase their sales likely due to people who already owned an Xbox upgrading but it wasn't THAT big an increase. Had they not released it they would be doing much worse.

[Kribwalker]

@Jakiah

It’s a gamechanger for what i see on my TV screen 😉

No other console outputs as much 4k or runs 90% of the games out today better (the 10% being exclusives)

[Razzer]

^^^^^^^^ The definition of moving goal posts.....right there. ^^^^^^^^

[rainslacker]

They probably would have sold more if they found a way to capture the casual market like they did with the Kinect. They went to the other extreme this time, and it's not working as well for them. It really is just another piece of evidence that power doesn't matter.

[Kribwalker]

@Razzer
what goalpost did i move? I never said it would be a game changer and make it sell more than the PS4. But the Image Quality upgrade on the OneX vs the One S (and every other console) is a game changer. So yeah, to me it is a Game changer.

[Razzer]

The topic is Xbox One sales. You know that though. That is why you are moving the goal posts.

[CoinOrc]

First said: it’s a game changer for what I see on my TV screen.
Then said: I never said it would be a game changer... but it’s a game changer.

[Sevir]

It's interesting to see, the XB360 was selling better at this point in time, but that was all thanks to that years head start on the market. Interestingly enough the PS3 was selling at a faster rate even though it launched a year later and had a significantly higher price.

It really is hard to ignore the DRM and the $500 price tag of the XBO. Most everyone thought the PS3 damaged Sony's brand but crazy enough even that improved. The PS3 stuck around and managed to outsell the Xbox 360 just slightly in it's 6th or 7th year.

Strength of a brand and a decision to double down on gamers shows that Sony is a pro in this industry.
The PS4 will be Sony's 3 home console to sell over 100 million units. The forth to exceed 80 million units, and the 5th PlayStation hardware to sell in excess of 75 million. Their only real failure is the PS Vita in terms of commercials success. It simply didn't captivate like they thought it would, even tho it was a well made machine.

[ArchangelMike]

I know Nintendo are doing well, but I'm not sure sales of the Switch will surpass the xbox one by the end of the year. It's not as though sales of xbox one are going to stop completely, they will still probably sell another 10 million consoles before the end of the year. I have to say though, Microsoft will really have to work hard next gen to turn the tide.

[gravedigger]

Quote : they will still probably sell another 10 million consoles

MS only managed to sell 10 mil. Xbones in 2014.

[TGGJustin]

Lol the Xbox One only sold 10 million in a year in it's first year. That's never happening again. They'll be lucky to do 5 million worldwide in 2019.

[WilliamSheridan]

Once another price drop hits it'll soar

[Livingthedream]

It will be interesting to see where it ends up, 5 million seems a bit modest I think 7 to 8 is plausible. Either way MS looks committed to bringing the brand much needed games. Assuming they are solid games it can only help their sales.

[Razzer]

"Once another price drop hits it'll soar"

Don't know if Xbox One sales will ever "soar" but it is certainly not priced correctly to meet demand. I doubt MS is willing to take a loss on the hardware at this point. Just ride this gen out and start over next gen.

[gravedigger]

@WilliamSherida

Quote: "Once another price drop hits it'll soar"

Yeah, Xbone was on sale since beginning of the 2018 till the end of 2018. in US. And guess what, Xbone ended last in overall units for 2018, especially during Holidays for 199/399 for X. in US. How in the whole world Xbone sales will "soar"? There is absolutely a thing when it comes to devaluing your product when it seems like it is ‘on sale’ all the time.

[letsa_go]

Just wait til E3!

[Gamingsince1981]

"Once another price drop hits it'll soar" the same thing was said about the Xbox one x launch...

[Soap_Z]

No suprise. Several years ago even though MS refused to reveal actual number they still claimed Xbox One outsold 360 in same period. While from 2017 they never said such thing and just focus on active user number combined on Xbox and Windows PC.

[Razzer]

Until Xbox One outsold PS4 one month and Aaron Greenberg was on it like it was a jelly donut.

https://twitter.com/aarongr...

[derek]

Pathetic, and people wonder why some dont trust good guy Phil and his pr campaign.

[starchild]

Yeah, but that's how all of these companies behave. They're never going to highlight their weaknesses or things that make their product look bad. Last generation when the PS3 sales were lagging Sony didn't report sales either. I'm surprised some people don't remember that.

[Razzer]

"Yeah, but that's how all of these companies behave. They're never going to highlight their weaknesses or things that make their product look bad"

And? That's not what is being discussed. First MS said they were only going to talk about MAU numbers and acted like sales numbers did not matters......until they suddenly mattered again.

"Last generation when the PS3 sales were lagging Sony didn't report sales either. I'm surprised some people don't remember that."

That's because it didn't happen.

https://web.archive.org/web...
https://gematsu.com/2013/11...

In 2012, Sony lumped PS3 sales numbers in with PS2 numbers in their annual report. At no point did they say they were no longer releasing sales numbers.

[rainslacker]

Give Greenburg a break. He's been held back for so long, they had to let him out when they had a win. He was starting to get ansy...and they probably had to clean out his humane natural habitat area. I hear it was all sticky from jelly donuts.:)

The guy isn't all that bad personally, but as a PR guy, he is kind of cringe worthy. i think he seems like a pretty nice guy otherwise.

[Pantz]

The number's I'm curious to see is how many of the most powerful consoles have sold.

We know that Sony has sold 0 of the most powerful consoles and Nintendo as well has sold 0 of the most powerful consoles. We have yet to hear any definitive numbers of just how many of the most powerful consoles that Microsoft has sold. I imagine the numbers will be quite staggering in comparison.

[Majin-vegeta]

And 0 of those powerful console sells helped Ms gain any vantage 😂

[Pantz]

Right, it didn't help them get any vantage in the non-most powerful console business. That's not what I'm talking about though.

[Razzer]

lol.....good stuff. This is almost as good as when you convinced yourself that One X's improvements on multiplats made it so they could be counted as Xbox One X exclusives.

You must work overtime trying to come up with these knee-slappers. Keep it up!

[Skankinruby]

Lmao I kinda like you

[ILostMyMind]

Is that all that's left for you? What will you do when Madbox is released? ... Are you going to throw yourself off the bridge?

[Sunny_D]

Damn this style of writing reminds me of middle school. Jeez kid, stay in school.

[mkis007]

But sonys sales on tuesdays during a full moon are higher. They have you beat.

[The Wood]

Another one who's gen started when the 1x got released. Prior to that the gen was a myth. Didn't exist.

If they could 'flick a switch', MS would swap positions with Sony in a heartbeat.

[OffRoadKing]

So you took an article about xbox sales and used it as an excuse to attack Sony and Nintendo, how classy. What I'm curious to see is how long you get to keep trolling like this, like you always do. How many down votes and reports of inappropriate comments does it take I wonder before the mods do something about you?

[Pantz]

What do you mean attack Sony and Nintendo? I talked about Xbox One X in an Xbox article. I don't think that's very far off topic.

[rainslacker]

We haven't heard definitive numbers from MS since the first year. Sony and nintendo release definitive numbers. Since I know you're trying to imply that MS has the most powerful console, maybe take the numbers available, or extrapolated through other means, and accept that its not a significant amount, and more than likely, Sony still has sold more of the 2nd most powerful console, and it is likely selling to more new PS4 owners as a 1st option, than MS is selling X1X systems in the same way.

best we got was that Sony sold 20% of new systems were PS4P, about a month after release. MS made a similar statement as I recall, in the same time frame. So, the staggering number is that Sony is selling more of the 2nd most powerful console, vs MS most powerful console, and I'd actually wager that the ratio is higher than we see between PS4/X1 as a whole.

I do like your Greenburgian way of defining the terms by which the sales numbers should be considered though. Just makes me think even more that you are actually Greenburg in disguise....or just a satire troll. If its the latter, then you are quite good at it. If its the former, how's it hangin' Aaron?

[MoonConquistador]

Lol @ Greenburgian

[Pantz]

when you divide 20% from 0 I believe it's still 0

[Kryptix]

LOL This is the new low now of deniability.

Even if Xbox One Xs sold more than PS4 Pros, we might be talking about 15% of the big 100% pie with originals and slims.

If you're really focused on that 15% then you, my friend, are the reason why Microsoft is way behind Sony and Nintendo. Focusing on the smaller things is what is staggering, not the numbers of sales of 2 consoles that are meant to be a premium option.

[OffRoadKing]

"We know that Sony has sold 0 of the most powerful consoles and Nintendo as well has sold 0 of the most powerful consoles."

Do I really need to explain your own comments to you? Dude its clear you're trolling so why don't you knock it off.

[Pantz]

You're right, it's 2019, we have to start being more inclusive. Switch is the world's most powerful console in it's own way and PS4 Pro is the world's most powerful console in it's own way too.

[akaFullMetal]

Sounds to be about what other guestimates were at. Either way hopefully they sell more next gen.

[kevnb]

Not bad for last place.

[PowerOfTheCloud]

If true, still way too much for what has been offered in the recent years up to this date.

[Tazzy]

I think it would have hit more sales but they lost the PC market when they put their games on PC people with high powered PCs won't buy one people with PCs that don't perform like Xbox One X will.

[FGHFGHFGH]

I don't think the games Microsoft has been putting out would really get pc gamers to buy an xbox if they kept them exclusive. A lot of their exclusives that aren't first party would already be on pc. (titanfall, ori, cuphead)

[FallenAngel1984]

Microsoft literally sells on average 8 million Xbox One consoles a year

[TheColbertinator]

Hahahaha that's pretty low

[GamingSinceForever]

Pathetic

[Bane35]

Idk why people so worried about how many xbox ones been sold we been knew the xbox one wasnt selling as much as ps4 let it go already

[OpenGL]

That's lower than what was previously suggested but it doesn't surprise me based on the breakdown of multiplatform sales, PS4 is usually more than 2:1 Xbox One.

[ILostMyMind]

Congrats! Great sales for what it offers. Brand fans are actually very loyal or in need of a blue ray player.

[mkis007]

at this point mine is primarily used for that. Just hope they get Dolby Vision on disc supported soon.

[Moe-Gunz]

Got slaughtered this gen

[darthv72]

Severely beaten but not slaughtered.

150 million to 25 million... now that is a slaughter (PS2 - og Xbox)

[PhoenixUp]

“it’s hard to deny that the Xbox One is on the whole a misstep for the brand“

That amount isn’t a lowpoint for the brand, especially not to the degree Wii U was to Nintendo’s brand and Vita to the PlayStation’s brand.

[rainslacker]

I agree. while sales could be better, it's not a terrible number to hit. Obviously MS would want to sell more, but hitting 40+ million is respectable. They managed to maintain 3rd party support pretty well, which is really what's most important for the users. More 1st party support would be welcome, but overall, the stuff they do release is pretty good, even if most of it isn't my cup of tea.

It's been like that all gen with console sales numbers though. MS only looks bad in comparison to Sony, but their overall console sales are respectable enough. Their faults lie elsewhere, but the brand does have some good things about it.

[SkippyPaccino]

So they're no longer selling at a faster pace than the 360?

[Sunny_D]

They never were

[oneconsoleonly]

41million is as far as I would go as vgchartz also have the same numbers.

[StormLegend]

41 million in 5 years thats bad..... I knew it wasn't anywhere close to 50 million.

[Donjune]

If Xbox fails we all lose in some shape or form. Been gaming since 1982 and I know that the more gaming consoles the better. They have to scratch and claw for the consumer dollar when there is competition. Gamers don't really want companies to rest on their laurels and give us crap because they can. Let that marinate.

[BehindTheRows]

Others can, and probably would, come along. Competition doesn't have to come from Xbox.

That said, they're not going anywhere. 41-50m in a gen is enough to justify its existence.

[derek]

Gaming, as you know, was healthy before xbox and would be after if it ever left (which I don't see happening)

[UniqueGuy91]

Not really. Someone else will just step up.

I also don't like the fact that MS is touting Streaming as the primary way to play games come next generation. I hate the way they made all if not most of their first party games GaaS oriented. I for one love seeing XB1 getting decimated in sales for all the bad shit they tried to pull this generation.

[EDKICK]

@UniqueGuy91
I don't disagree with the streaming thing or xbox's idiotic start to the gen but in what way are "all if not most of their first party games GAAS"? Sea of Thieves, Gears 4 multiplayer, and what else is really GAAS?

[Lennoxb63]

When did MS tout streaming as the primary way of playing games?

[Gamingsince1981]

Nothing of value would be lost if Xbox left the market, some one else would take the spot and probably do better. All MS that has brought to gaming are negatives.

[rainslacker]

If Xbox fails, most would move on and forget about it. More gaming consoles aren't better. More companies doing things that make it good for the gamers is better. The criticisms lobbed at MS this gen were more about how they aren't doing much to make things better, and while they have some good things they are doing that make things better, it's not always what people want or asked for, or takes the industry in a direction which people may not care for.

Sony pretty much dominated for 2 gens straight, and their competition didn't do much to affect them. They still pumped out games through their own efforts, and managed to get strong 3rd party support. PS3 they didn't start off strong, and they overestimated how much people would adopt a new technology, but the reason the devs didn't adopt it as quickly as they had with Sony's prior outings, which on the PS2 wasn't all that straighforward yet they had no problem doing it, is because MS offered a rather easy way to make games with DirectX embedded into the system itself. DX was understood, and it meant that devs didn't have to learn new techniques for CELL, which they ended up learning anyways for GPU compute.

[Wulfer]

Wonder why they left off the news the Xbox has the Highest digital attach rate of any system this gen? This news came from the same source on Resetra in the same thread.

[DerekTweed]

In the very same comment.

And I think it sad significantly higher than other platforms.

[Kribwalker]

because that wouldn’t put the xbox in a “negative “ light to people then. Just like saying 41 million consoles sold is a bad thing. That’s 41,000,000 consoles. That’s $12.3 billion in revenue at a $300 price point average.

It’s not 1st place, it won’t be 2nd place, but it’s still a pretty solid amount of consoles sold.

[RangerWalk267]

As long as they continue to build their platform and add studios and services, I could careless how many they sell. Same goes for Sony and Nintendo. I'm not a share holder, so I'm here as a gamer just wanting to see more and more innovation on all platforms.

[BehindTheRows]

You need a strong userbase to sustain a brand. It should be VERY important to you that they keep a notable market share.

[derek]

Actual numbers cut through all the bs Microsoft and others (like articles from Forbes and that guy from the NPD group) have been spinning. This number is bad no amount of propaganda will make it good, no wonder Microsoft stop publishing them. Makes all this talk of the future and being the "Netflix of gaming' sound like alot of hot air.

[DerekTweed]

But you still don't know if this is true or not.

[2pacalypsenow]

Looks like most people aren’t interested in BC

[starchild]

That's faulty reasoning. All you can say is that the combination of things the PS4 offers are more attractive to more people than the combination of things the Xbox One offers. But 41 million is nothing to sneeze at. That's a lot of people that chose to buy an Xbox One even with the weak lineup of exclusives. It's easy to imagine that backwards compatibility was an important consideration for many of those people. Hell, even some of those who bought the PS4 probably care about backwards compatibility. I bought a PS4 and own no Xbox One, for example, but I care a lot about backwards compatibility and it's part of why I use my PC a lot.

[DeadManMMX]

Hey man it's not 13 million Wii U's sold. They had a rough generation but they have made positive steps forward. Seeing what Obsidian is doing with The Outer Worlds and playing through Senua's Sacrifice right now I am genuinely excited to see what these teams do with more resources. Can't wait to hear these next gen console announcements and see what we get and what was learned if anything. Sony has been quiet which makes me think they are building up a bomb for next gen and MS seems to thinking towards the future in a less traditional way. I just I don't really know what to expect but I know I'm on board.

[Smokehouse]

You can’t botch the launch. Sony didn’t f*ck up their momentum once this gen. Hit after hit, zero fumbles, it was a flawless victory and a prime example of how to pull your company out of the shitter with common sense solutions. Gtfo the way and let your people work.

The ps3 was a joke at launch and it never recovered even with exclusives. The wiiu was the same. I bet all 40 million of those Xbox’s were sold in North America lol. The first party investment changes things, if people overseas can play it on PC then they won’t buy an Xbox.

[StormLegend]

The PS3 not only came out a year later but it surpassed the 360 with quality games and sales. Don't. Say it never recovered when it did.

[Smokehouse]

Only after the cheaper slim came out. I guess “recovered” was the wrong term to use but we are looking at it differently.

They did botch the launch and didn’t gain any sort of dominance. Their popularity overseas later gen exclusives helped even the field. Unlike the ps2/ps4 eras of complete lockdown, that’s the comparison I’m making. To themselves not Microsoft. The key is not botching the launch and holding the momentum. Ps4 was textbook success.

[BehindTheRows]

@travis: Well said!

[darthv72]

I get what smoke is saying but it seems others do not. they only see it one dimensionally.

By comparison, sony really flubbed the launch of the PS3. comparing it to itself the PS3 is the black sheep because it was too expensive and under delivered (at the time). The PS2 was a run away hit and just kept getting better and better over time. PS3 took several changes to get back on track and it did eventually get there but at the cost of market share in the end.

MS is facing the exact same situation. Their 360 was a hit and continued to capitalize on that even in light of glaring technical issues. It kept afloat on the premise of consistant games being delivered. something the PS3 lacked early on but did fix just as the PS4 also lacked compelling games at launch but its lower price and better specs made it the value that people went to.

XBO had to make several changes to get back on track like the PS3 and it is no surprise that brand loyalty is a helping factor for sony and Ms managed to reach 41 million without that is still respectable.

[MoonConquistador]

And the PS3 most certainly wasn't a joke at it's launch. It launched as the cheapest way to get a Blu Ray player, had better media capabilities than even the PS4 and had excellent games such as Motorstorm and Resistance Fall of Man.

Oh, and I didn't need to buy two or three consoles over the course of the generation due to design flaws and being rushed to market.

[darthv72]

No it was not the cheapest. There were actually cheaper bluray players at the time. Even sony's one entry model was $100 cheaper.

Many confuse the situation because the PS2 really was the cheapest DVD player at the time. But when it came to bluray, the PS4 was not the cheapest. They sold it at a loss because it was more expensive to make but the reality is there was a less expensive option at the time.

[rainslacker]

@Darth

I looked for a BR player when Sony was launching the PS3, because I always thought standalones would provide better pictures, and at the time, the cheapest BR player I could find was $800 for a discontinued model, which was replaced by a $900-1000 model, depending on which outputs it had. That $800 player was pretty bare bones, and it's picture quality wasn't on par with the PS3's, which oddly enough, was one of the best players on the market for it's entire life span. Even today, a BR player with the same capabilities would be upwards of $200.

There may have been some clearance models out there at some stores, but it certainly wasn't the norm.

About a year after launch, you could find BR players cheaper, but not at the PS3's launch. After a year, the format war had been decided for the most part, and more manufacturers were coming to market, plus the cost to make the lasers had decreased significantly. One of the reasons the PS3 was so expensive was because sourcing of the BR laser diodes was extremely expensive when the system first started production. This was because they weren't easy to make, and there were a lot of bad parts coming off the manufacturing line. If Sony had waited it out another 6 months to a year, the costs would have likely been less, although they were still spending a lot on the CELL chip.

[Sm00thNinja]

It's higher than I thought honestly

[2ndhandcorn]

Nice congrats Ms.

[AK91]

I wonder if the Switch will beat it before they launch the next Xbox?

[AmUnRa]

I think it will, perhaps end this year...

[Ab692]

LMFAO pathetic sales

[trooper_]

That's... terrible.

[Einhander1971]

Which ever way you look it the PS4 has sold way more end of story.

[Max_Eckhardt]

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
What an embarrassment.

[PhoenixUp]

Isn’t this rich? When EA suggested that Xbox One sold 29.5 million at the end of 2017 and ZhugeEx said it was around 35 million many people on this site disregarded ZhugeEx’s numbers

Now those same people are taking ZhugeEx’s end of 2018 numbers as gospel.

[rainslacker]

If it makes you feel better, any number from an analyst, or forum "insiders" I'm usually skeptical of, unless there is other correlative evidence to support that number. But around December of last year, most people were saying 35-38 million.

[LandoCalrissiano]

If Sony can have 90 million MAUs at 91 million consoles sold and MS has 59 million MAUs, then it's not unreasonable to guess that 60 million consoles are sold.

[darthv72]

MAU's are generally on supported platforms. Sony still has people playing PS3 and Vita online as well as PS4 just as MS counts not only XBO but also 360 and PC players.

also, its not a perfect 1:1 in terms of sales. There is a percentage of PS4's sold that are additional units to the same person. it happens all the time. nothing really surprising.

[Artemidorus]

Who cares? This website shouldn't.

[timlot]

Thanks Xbox. Every little bit helps.

Microsoft will end 2018 as America’s most valuable company
https://www.zdnet.com/artic...

[2pacalypsenow]

Xbox plays a very small part in that.

[darthv72]

Like the saying goes: there are no small parts, only small actors.

[Thundercat77]

Things are really bad when you try to defend a point in a gaming subject with a subject non related to gaming.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

Not a bad number considering it’s rough start and lack of exclusives. Personally I’m looking forward to seeing what MS does next gen with all the new studios they’ve bought.

[SixFragz]

Another article where Xdrones comment trying to claim that the console is selling exceptionally by twisting the narrative like a pretzel.

[Donnie81]

So no proof just someone said it sold that much. I’d bet the number is sorta low.

[Monkeycan8]

I love my Xbox One but if just can not compete with the Massive beasts that are the PS4 and Switch.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

So the gap is now grown more than 2:1....Sony keeps growing that lead.

[chrisoadamson]

And yet all has all the best versions of multiplats 😊

[Imortus_san]

Half the Xbox 360 sales and 10 million to double the original Xbox.

[FanboysKiller]

41m players who play more games and spent more time playing and had better online reputations.

[deno]

Xbox is a great brand, that was handled poly for sometime. Last couple of years of Xbox 360 and Xbox one launch really crushed them. They fired that one clown who pretty much tried to make it into a Tivo. 😂

[Thundercat77]

Microsoft tried everything this Gen to fight Sony and they lost miserably...
Many price cuts
Power of the cloud
Putting their games on PC
BC
the "most powerful console in the universe"
Game pass

And nothing helped. It seems like the only chance they've got was when PS3 was in disaster mode. If Sony is doing good, there is simply no way for Xbox to compete.

[rlow1]

I agree Sony has always been in the pole position and has delivered. What has hurt MS was the game section and all the bad press. That said, to say Xbox can't compete with Playstation is very short sighted. Last gen They did fine against Sony, who was suppose to blow xbox out of the water...didn't happen. Xbox also had to overcome bad press...."red ring of death" and still led most of that gen. To say that they won't learn from their mistakes as Sony has would be foolish. I think next gen will play out different because their to much money at stake and MS is investing in new IP......time will tell...peace

[Thundercat77]

"Last gen They did fine against Sony"

They did fine because of the PS3 disaster. That is exactly my point and even with that disaster, Sony managed to resurrect the PS3, give the best exclusive of that Gen and surpass Xbox 360 at the end.

If Microsoft couldn't against Sony at its worst, then is not going to win over Sony at its bets, or even at its normal.

[rlow1]

Since I can't use the reply off your last statement, I'll use this one. Your right about Sony's PR disaster but your leaving out the red ring of death. That was absolutely just as big if not bigger. If that hadn't happened to MS they would of even had more momentum last gen. So to say only Sony had to overcome bad press would be skipping over the fact that MS had to pretty much replace every console they sold in the first to second year......huge. If that hadn't happened and tarnished the 360 it would of accelerated it's momentum. It was a nice opening for Sony to get the bad press off of them.

[EpicFruityPie]

Microsoft failing is on them
I for one loved my 360 and was looking forward to the one
Well, that is until E3 where it was like DRM, can't trade games, media, media, media
I even pre-ordered it but after watching Sony
Well I swapped my order to them, I voted with my brain not my fanboyism

[salmonade]

What a pathetic laughing stock. It will be similar next gen.