The game director of God of War, Cory Barlog, revealed in a long interview how the project was initially even more ambitious and out of his mind, with a greater number of bosses.
Seriously, the lack of boss fights or just using the same giant troll was one of the only biggest criticisms I had of the game.
I agree. I wanted more boss battles and a better variation of enemies instead of the same enemies with a different burn.
Lol. Funny! But true. Side note. . . Have both of you guys competed it yet? Screenshots of platinum trophy or it didn't happen. . .😎
I wanted more bosses as well but the Valkeries did kind of make up for it. Even if they just had different attack patterns, they were a good challenge Edit: I wanted to fight that giant ass eagle in Helheim why the hell put something so epic looking in the distance that I can't interact with
@wood Are you expecting a "property of..." pic from one of us??
Not sure why you're getting disagrees, this is the most common and legitimate concern the game had. The only 'real' boss fight without going into spoilers was epic, but also underwhelming. The best bosses in the game were the optional Valkyries which were the best fights
@red. Yesir. With you embossed in the pic holding a G red banner
Prove you’ve completed the game. We all know you haven’t but bet you’d like to shut us up? But can’t? Ahh I see now it all fits! 👍
@potnoodle I can’t show you a platinum because i didn’t platinum it, but i beat the game and got 55% of the trophies https://postimg.cc/9rXKJTDv
More fights like The Stranger would have made it my favorite game of all time
@Wood You know you don't have to platinum a game to beat the story ;) and platinuming a game doesn't make you any better to judge if it's good game for everybody. Everyone has their own preferences, some like to grind meaningless shit to get a shiny virtual trophy and some like just enjoy the good story with a great gameplay. Anyone saying that there was no repetition or lack of bosses....specially when GOW has always been famous from the gore and their bosses, they are simply lying to themselves or being ignorant. It's a good game, but it could have been even better with some more variation.
@HaveSumNuts The Valkyrie fights were phenomenal. The Sigrun fight was probably the most satisfying gaming experience I've had in years.
@ Kribwalker psnprofiles.com - this shows your game history. Here's mine for instance - https://psnprofiles.com/obi...
@obidan https://psnprofiles.com/kri... that’s a pretty good source to look at what you’ve played. Some games i’ll try, and if they don’t catch me right away i put them to the side and eventually try to come back to them.
That's your main take away from that interview?!?!
Well it was the headline of this article...
Yes it is but after watching it boss fights was the last thing on my mind!
It's definitely my main criticism of the game.
I don't get when people are giving down votes for something that is actually true. Yea a bit too many of the same troll I agree. Let's hope for more gods in the next one! By Thor's hammer!
I'm not sure why people are concerned about other people getting downvotes. Plus, it could be the fact that he's a bit of a troll.
The troll wasn't really a boss after the first one that shows up. After that, it was just another enemy that showed up. They even respawned in some areas. That may be why they're getting downvotes. That, and the people saying it won't say anything good about the game anyways, so their opinions are not taken seriously.
Playstation n4g nothing new lmfaoo
It's not the biggest concern in that sense it has more to do with that the statement made is a fact, it is not an opinion so I just don't get the point of downvoting the truth hahah. If you would go into the game and count, you can count the different bosses almost with one hand. Sure the valkyries were awesome, not saying anything bad about that! But unique bosses would've been fun to have a couple of more, just look at GOW 3. GOW 2. GOW 1. I think all of them has more than the latest installment. But it's still a hell of a game! One of my favorites! :D
Yeah well.. While i agree that there should have been more enemy variety and more bosses because of how the game is much longer than the previous GOW's i watched Kinda Funny interview with Cory and he said the trolls weren't bosses at all they are just normal enemies,kinda like the cyclops were in the old god of war games or for example chimeras in GOW 3.
The game was so great I still didn't care about that. Just the atmosphere and the world was amazing! That was enough for me. After reading this news article I already know the sequel is going to be better.
So instead of the same troll or stone ancient why not add some of the cut bosses in? Would give the bosses some variety
Well I assume they got cut early on so it'd take a lot of work to get them to a level where they'd be of acceptable quality. I gotta say as much as I liked the new God of War I wish they would've gone for a more traditional linear level design. That way we probably would've gotten more interesting enemies and bosses and probably more felshed out realms.
That and the boss fights were really formuliac and lacked the depth and level changes the previous games boss fights had. Remember the older GoW when a boss fight would change in strategy AND location like 2 or 3 times? In this GoW it was just the same thing over and over. For example, the Baldur fight was the same strategy through all 3 of his waves. Same for the end fight, which was a LITTLE better, but not by much. Magdi and Modi barely changed up their attack patterns, and the trolls all did the same thing, but with a different element. Except for the troll in Hell who had a slightly different strategy due to the floating orbs that would attack you and him being able to teleport.
You're not lying. The game suffered from repeatitus... but it wasn't as bad as Hellblade. And at least fighting the same shit over and over was still fun.
That and the absence of Thor and Odin I found underwhelming.
Every game has their share of criticism so certainly you can satisfy everyone.. but its the first game so i am cool with how SM went and created the new GOW Lore.. From next installment onwards it will be clear how they have set up the world and what new they will bring...
My only real issue with the game (cuz everything else was near perfect). Thankfully now that the game was a success, we will likely get what was promised by one of Santa Monica devs for next God of War game... "it will be bigger, better, longer."
Same, the boss fights that were there were stunning but just not enough of them, i know this will be fixed in the sequel and i can't bloody wait, hopefully we get to to take on Fenrir the wolf.
I hope Cory is still directing God of War 2, I don't think anyone else can effectively carry on teh visino that he has started. Just give the man time to recouperate first.
I just read the issue as becoming a sequel.
"now that the game was a success" understatement of the year haha, agree tho! so hyped for the next iteration
Yeah, there could have been more. Started off strong with the stranger. Then was kind of barren until about halfway through the game. Freya's boss fight was pretty disappointing. I do think it'd be a bit distracting if they had as many as GOW3 did though. That was more like 10 minutes of game play, fight a boss kind of deal. Obvious exaggeration, but that game was packed full of them. This game was paced much differently though.
Yea the same troll boss fights was my only complaint, it would have been cool if I each one had their own unquie move set, and a different finishing move for each one would have been a plus. But other than that, the game was freaking awesome.
Damn that last part hit me in the feels! this game spoke to me onmsny levels as a father and as a son. My father was a hard working but very distant man and as s child I always felt like I was a disappointment to him. Like if I hadn't of been so different he could've related more but as time goes by and you grow you realize people struggle with things and most of the time it's a quiet struggle! One of the best games I've played and just thinking about it puts a big smile on my face! The good news is this was a resounding success so I'd imagine the sequel will have more of everything.
Same here. That story that Cory shared about that guy coming up to him and getting emotional almost from the beginning speaks to how powerful and moving these story driven games can be, and the impact that they can have on someone is something special. I can relate to you on that in a sense. My father’s always been hard working as well. But also one to hide his emotions and to this day (I’m 30) he’s never once said to me “I love you” it honestly doesn’t bother me now, i believe he does love me regardless, but his difficult upbringing has certainly caused a lot of pain to him. He does sometimes come over to my house, chat or watch me play story driven games, and is impressed with how far this stuff has come. Also, games like God of War, TLoU, and Heavy Rain especially, for me; are such moving experiences that really do speak to us parents in different ways. I can’t imagine the sequel, but I bet it’ll be a Showcase across the board on PS5.
Absolutely and that's why I'm such a supporter of Sony because they put so many resources into these kinds of games. In 09 I was still gaming just not as much and games like Mass Effect and Bioshock kept me going but once I played Uncharted especially Among Theives my love of gaming came back with a vengeance. Heavy Rain was another one that got my attention and once The Last of Us hit I realized just what this medium can do as far as how it can affect you! If the original GOW and what happened in its sequel is anything to go by then God of War 2 should be something truly spectacular! Take care man!
Indeed. Sony & their studios just really give everything to deliver unique gaming experiences to the players. I hope they never stop. That’s awesome to hear Among Thieves did that for you. So cool. Such a special game that is. Thanks. Take care as well bud!
The recreated trolls was underwhelming to be honest, you could pick up their patterns easily while the other main bosses was a lot of fun. If it meant a delay on different bosses then I'd have been happy about that.
The trolls weren't really bosses though, which is why they had mostly the same patterns, just like all the other repeated, or reskinned enemies that made up common fodder. The different types of trolls had different patterns, but the only troll boss was the first one. And I'd classify it more as a sub-boss, to give a bit of challenge, mostly to show some game play elements.
That is a shame it would have made an already amazing game even better. Same giant troll but different colour and same enemies with different colours was a poor decision.
I hope the next one is a PS5 exclusive and not a crossover with PS4. I wouldn't want the PS4 hardware to limit the ambition of the next game in the series.
That's okay. If history is about to repeat itself the sequel will be insane for bosses (ie. GOW1 vs. GOW2 saw a huge increase in epic boss fights).
Uncharted 1 to uncharted 2 Infamous 1 to infamous 2
Yes, more cinematics please, that's what all videogames are about. Cinematics, atmosphere, 'mature' characters... Gameplay? oh yeah just put some rpg elements that'll be fine. You know, videogames have to be the next hollywood.
That's funny, the gameplay had a lot more depth than the previous GoW games. But god forbid a developer wants to tell a story as well.
i heard this a lot, but let me tell you, having more gameplay depth than the previous gow games isn't something particularly difficult. is basically a casualized dmc, yet it was never boring, unlike the new movie.
Here's the thing Nyxus, it appears that well crafted narratives are a bad thing. Especially if there's an ounce of nuance or god forbid it actually makes you reflect or see things from another perspective. You know the things that actually help us grow as human beings! I've never seen so many try to downplay the impact these games have and can have if pushed further.
Don't even start with your pseudo-philosophal approach to videogames putting everyone of us who are trying to give a point about the falacy of "videogames are art" in a sack as we have no idea of art, human condition or even philantropy. But here's the fact, hipster. Videogames are possible because of computers, you know, the human creation of mechanizing logic? Have you ever built a half-adder logic board? Have you ever tried to read binary? That's the simple yet complex logic human beings have come around with to make videogames possible, and games were one of the main concerns people tried back then with the valve. The magic word here is game. Electronics and technology only gave us an extension to keep making fun innovative and let me tell you something, if you think videogames future is becoming another expression medium and even interactive and your will is to ignore the fact that gameplay, the merely act of developing and creating new ways of having fun, deservers a second place, then you don't have an inch of an idea what videogames are and what to they mean to the human species. Videogames won't evolve because of their potential of telling stories. Telling stories won't make videogames art. The fact that you can get inspired and cry over a obviously emotional story doesn't mean that is art. A poor boy in the streets of Brazil could make anyone cry and that doesn't mean that is art. Stories can be evolved and make people 'inspire' in almost every way today, even in marketing (yeah, ironic), but that doesn't make marketing art. Do you have it now? The only thing that would make videogames evolve is gameplay, other things could help, but gameplay can never be in second place, otherwise there wouldn't be so much people arguing why this is so innovative to people and it's easy to know why: 1. they think camera angles is videogame evolution, 2. they have a lack of gameplay reference point so they put some simple dodging roll movements, some rpg elements, some enemies and bosses that are the same and they will say "gameplay and combat is the best i've ever seen" which obviously isn't something new and that's the main problem with games like TLOU and god of war, they are good games, but don't deserve to be called "best games of all time" because their focus is not on gameplay, is on story, graphics, atmosphere, etc, which are indeed great, but they just polished gameplay to be acceptable, and that can't praised, that can't be acceptable for 5 years in a row, because it's misleading of what videogames could be, there has to be variety and sony is not doing variety in gameplay for a long time yet they still are praised as the best. They are only making movies, taking movie industry techniques and nothing else. The problem with these games is that while all of you praise them by the reasons we don't care, we got bored, because they are not fun to play, they are fun to watch, to listen, to see, but not to play. And that is a fact, because i'm not the only one saying it. Stories will only evolve stories, not videogames. Do you think music is art because it can tell stories? Music is art because it has developed technique over a single core: organized sound and silence Core of videogames is not stories, is the audiovisual technique for playing: gameplay.
That's a lot of bullshit to write when you haven't even played the game and are making up shit about the gameplay mechanics of God of War.
Try again fanboy, it's ok if you can't write something like that because you know, only thing you can say is "best gameplay i've ever seen" go keep playing, i've played enough of that kind of gameplay in god of war, and even in other games, so yeah, try again.
You are writing a bunch of bullshit. I don't make up shit about game play mechanics I haven't played. I'm not a liar. You are. And yes, I'll post my subjective opinions all I want about games I HAVE PLAYED. I don't post from ignorance. You do. So you don't like my opinion of God of War? That's fine. At least I'm not a liar posting ignorant shit about a game I have not played. That's all you.
@Razzer That's exactly what virtually every fanboy says when they put the gameplay mechanics of their beloved game to light. That's why i'm not surprised, keep claiming i haven't played the game, i only care about what i've done and what i've said, i played the game, i'm not surprised, i said what i've said, that's my opinion. You don't like it, go there yourself thinking i haven't played, thinking everyone should love the game and if someone says the things i've said, he surely didnt' played it. You even called me an xbox fanboy, lol, i've never own an xbox console, those are the ones guilty for making the online play on consoles not free. So yeah, there you go, after all, never gave a real opinion, just some subjective crap. Well, at least you're not talking about music or movies not everything is lost.
And let's just examine your previous post that proves you haven't played the game. "the fact that you can just spam throwing the axe all the time" That's a lie. And if you had played the game you would not have said anything like that because you would know it is bullshit. "the fact that you cant see what's behind you" That one is hilarious. Yeah....it is called "turning around". Kratos can do that and no, in most games you do not have 360 degrees of vision all the time. lol....and you think you are an expert on gameplay, somehow? "the possibility that you can just hide and let the boi take care of it all" Again....bullshit lie. Not even remotely close to being the truth. Atreus can fire his arrows in intervals, not constantly. And this isn't a stealth game. There is no hiding. Shit you would know had you played the game. So just stop. You look like a complete fool. I have seen a lot of people here who have said they didn't care for the game. They explained their reasons and that was fine. I've said to many of them that I disagreed but opinions are what they are. But they also were not people like you who go on fanboy rants every single time a game like TLOU or GoW is mentioned. They also didn't spout off bullshit about the game that were entirely false or criticize the entire game as a "movie" which is totally idiotic. "You even called me an xbox fanboy" No, I didn't. I asked if you pasted your information on the game from a "xbox fanboy forum". That's the kind of shit I would expect to see there. Totally disingenuous nonsense from people who are talking shit about a game because of the platform it is on. Say you are no xbox fanboy? Uh....probably another lie. Lie once and you will do it again.
Worry not there are so many who still deliver the standard fare!
Game legit has the best combat I’ve ever seen. Epic, powerful, fast, fluid, easy to learn, difficult to master, so satisfying and everything just makes sense when your fighting. Exploration and side quests are incredible too, gameplay is all there. Games that have poor gameplay aren’t universally praised for having absolutely incredible gameplay. Jeez I can feel your butthurt...
Anything you say. If for you those repetitive enemies and bosses scheme, the fact that you can just spam throwing the axe all the time, the fact that you cant see what's behind you, and the possibility that you can just hide and let the boi take care of it all, if for you that's the "best combat i've ever seen" i can only tell you i'm so sorry for you. Sincerely.
“spam throwing the axe” and you will die again and again. Get lost , dude. You don’t know what you are talking about.
Hahaha what???? Did you play the game on easy or something....and then complain that it’s easy 😂 you CANNOT spam the axe or you will die and the boy CANNOT kill the enemies for you on the real difficulty’s which are the give me a challenge difficulty and higher. It sounds like you wanted a challenge... so why didn’t you pick it!? 😂 and you know what, even if you can find a way in a game to just exploit it (I’m talking ANY game here) why the hell would you???? I don’t spend £50 on a game to try and exploit it and take the easiest route, I spend it to experience a great game that IS expertly balanced as everybody else in this thread can clearly see, do you get sick of disagrees? Or is that what your looking for? I can only tell you I’m so sorry for you. Sincerely.
You guys are hilarious, i will never be tired of waiting for your arguments about good gameplay, innovative gameplay... you know, something beyond the "best combat i've ever seen", "the reviews say so", "the gameplay is most fun i've ever had", or even, haha "you just copy paste from an xbox fanboy forum" that was insane you make me laugh a lot, thanks boi... just try it, try making some argument without subjective crap, don't worry if you fail, its normal, is something you have to develop... i guess fanboys think all of us are of the same condition as them.
Maybe you should play the game because you have not. You are repeating the same nonsense you've said about Uncharted, TLOU, and now God of War. Oh wait....those are all Sony games. Shocker! Great....the games as movies line as if we have never heard that a million times. You need some new material if you want to be a troll.
Wanna me rant about other games too, there are plenty of, but wait, only Sony movie games are called "best games of all time"
@Logotero Hmmm yh your right. It’s almost as if real gamers realised a long time ago that Sony makes stellar exclusives and they always have many contenders for GOTY. Catch up with the rest of us sometime, this agenda of yours must be exhausting and it is exhausting trying to open your eyes to that... come to think of it, Jesus Christ, do what you want. It’s clear to see you have no one to support your arguments and it’s already become kind of sad.
Nah.....why would I want to hear someone rant about games they haven't played? Did you just copy and paste arguments from xbox fanboy forums that you read? Cuz that "movie game" line is as old as the bible. And you are just regurgitating the same shit for every Sony game you come across. Cinematic game with no gameplay. So no interest in someone who flat out lies about how you can just throw your axe through the game. Or....what was it? Hide? LOL. What the hell, man? Did someone actually tell you that you can hide and let Atreus kill everything? lol.....well they lied. Shit you would know if you played the game. Move on son.
U guys are hilarious, i will never be tired of waiting for your arguments about good gameplay, innovative gameplay... you know, something beyond the "best combat i've ever seen", "the reviews say so", "the gameplay is most fun i've ever had", or even, haha "you just copy paste from an xbox fanboy forum" that was insane you make me laugh a lot, thanks boi... just try it, try making some argument without subjective crap, don't worry if you fail, its normal, is something you have to develop... i guess fanboys think all of us are of the same condition as them.
LOL....you are the one flat out lying about the game play. You don't even dispute that because you know it is true. You have zero credibility whatsoever. Your posts are just a joke.