The PS4 has sold 91.6 million units, but what does that really mean for Sony and the video game industry?
4th best selling is guaranteed, and being the 3rd is extremely likely. However, PS4 is unlikely to surpass DS and PS2, simply because it's unlikely for it to continue selling well into the PS5s lifecycle as the PS2 did during the $600 PS3 launch.
I think budget priced PS4’s would sell well even with PS5 out. If it’s like $150 or less.
Especially considering the strength of the PS store in term of content. Back in the days you would have to go around town just to find a game for a previous Gen console. Now you can find over 90% of them straight out of the confort of your home. I kept my ps3 and I ve found games on the store that I never heard of and so cheap that I really felt like my ps3 had still so much to give.
I literally just got an Xbox One S, I’m really not ready for next gen yet. I’m probably gonna hold out on PS5 because PS4 launch was slow I think for at least a couple months I had contrast, assassins creed and killzone
PlayStations tend to sell long after a new generation arrives as they are supported well into start of new generations. As to PS5 I’m a day one purchaser. I want to be there from the very first minute. But I know there are people who buy consoles once they hit the “magic” $199. They are usually either casual kid gamers whose parents decide what console they will have, or budget gamers. So I think the PS4 will continue to sell for those two reasons.
And let’s face it once Ps5 drops the prices of PS4 defo will they’ve held very well so far. I can only imagine a price cut is due on or around e3 sure they not participating but they’ll still be announcing stuff 3rd parties will and if Sony drop £50 off the price minimum think that’ll be big enough news for them ;)
I was hoping the comparison would be launch aligned. Would be more relevant
I mean, I would like to see that 91.6 million compared to ps2, Wii etc. after the SAME no of months after launch. The claim that this comparison puts it into context ended up being wrong. By my estimate Wii was at about 90 million at this time in its life so pretty close with Ps4 likely ahead. And Ps4 will absolutely for sure finish above Wii.
I wonder whether it'll be able to hit that price, the PS4 is more than 5 years old now yet maintains a $299 MSRP (when not on Black Friday sales)
I purchased 1 original ps4, one slim and one pro, crazy to think how much I spent on these systems lol
For me it was PS4 and PS4 Pro, but I sold PS4 and used the money to get a Pro. Overall cost was around 550€ with the mid-generational upgrade. If I had bought 2000€ PC and upgraded it in three years with a 500€ GPU, the cost would have been 2500€. I think I'll do the same with the new PS5, and use my ultrabook connected to my 4K tv for browsing and stuff. Would love to have a PC, but there's not a single killer game that would need that much horsepower... Well, something that a PS4 Pro or PS5 could not handle anyway.
If PS5 is released for $600 and most of the games are on both platforms, PS4 can continue to sell for quite a while.
There were two PS3 SKUs at launch... One was $500.
Don't forget: PS2 did much better in Japan than PS4.
Yeah but in 2019 the console market is so much bigger than just Japan, Europe and NA compared to the ps2 Era.
Ratchet75, I was agreeing with ABizzel that PS4 will not share the same success as PS2. As a further matter, having more countries allows for greater potential for expansion than PS2, but it also depends on (a) units available in new areas and (b) if Playstation can become popular in those areas. The second point is a pretty serious challenge in the face of mobile gaming. If you've ever traveled around various parts of Asia, one of the things you'll definitely learn is kids LOVE their battle royales on the go. In my most recent trip to Asia last month alone, in Cambodia, there's even a place called PUBG Cafe. Playstation is up against some pretty fierce competition in their new areas and their market presence has shrunken in Japan. Sony still does quite well and they have a ton to celebrate, but I think it is clear that Sony will not reclaim their previous market penetration.
You mean 2nd probably. There is a category "home consoles" and "handhelds" . Like NPD said few months ago : the NPD said, including full-game sales, downloadable content, subscriptions, and mobile revenues, with mobile and digital content for CONSOLE and HANDHELDS showing the strongest growth. https://www.gamesindustry.b...
Ps4 has out sold ps2 in the same time period , so I don't think it's inconceivable that the ps4 could out sell ps2 in life time sales.
14.41 million in 2014 16.75 million in 2015 18.41 million in 2016 21.20 million in 2017 16.63 million in 2018 “That’s a total of 74.97 million before 2018. If you subtract that figure from 91.6 million you get 16.63 million units in 2018, which indicates a definite slowdown of PS4 sales as we approach the end of this console generation.” I fully expect a PS5 announcement this year with a release date between holiday 2019 and Q1 2020. Sony will want to get a head start on Microsoft again.
Dunno who did this maths, but please sue that guy, 14.41+16.75+18.41+21.20= 70.77m ...go back to school? Its 20.83 according to those numbers in 2018...
@saint_seya “Dunno who did this maths, but please sue that guy, 14.41+16.75+18.41+21.20= 70.77m ...go back to school?” That’s an error on my end. Sorry. Here’s the correct order. 4.2 million in 2013 14.41 million in 2014 16.75 million in 2015 18.41 million in 2016 21.2 million in 2017
The Nintendo DS is not a console, therefore it doesn’t count.
I agree with what you're stating for the most part. However, I will say this, if games are still released for the PS4 aswell even with a massive graphical downgrade even forcing games to run at a paltry 720p then the PS4 will continue to sell even if only the PS4 pro becomes standard. Pricing will be key because games just can't look terrible anymore. Diminishing returns in visuals are apparent now. If they can get the PS4 pro as standard, still release games for it and priced at no higher than $249.99 the PS4 is going nowhere soon. Also I will add that the PS5 if launched right may do PS2 numbers.
That's easy https://i.makeagif.com/medi... http://cdn1.sciencefiction.... A lot of us said last Gen that if Sony went head to head, they would destroy. Put it into context? Domination by giving gamers what they want. Which is games and actual exclusives meant to sell hardware or there's no point in making one.
Ps4 could definitely have sturdy legs going into ps5 cycle depending on game support and price. This gen has been fantastic for them they'd be foolish to cut support cold turkey come ps5 release
And they won’t ps4 will be around for another 2/3 years yet at least mainly as PS5 is a minimum of 21 months away ;)
Ps4 will be in production 3 or 4 years after the next gen starts just as sony has done with all previous playstations.
I could see Sony selling another 10 million in the next couple of years, with all the heavy hitter games still coming out. Could definately surpass the wii.
They’ll sell more than ten million this year alone
Got to love that one salty downvote lol as if what I said wasn’t a certainty
Prob cos a certain console could only dream of 10 million consoles sold in a year ;)
it definitely will surpass Will sale.
That's lowballing it massively, this year alone should be 15 Million+. Can see another 15-20m being sold in the rest of it's lifetime, probably even more.
Couple of years? lol.....they will sell ten million by mid 2019. It will outsell Wii. That isn't even a question.
They could do that it the next year they’ve been doing it for the last 4/5 years ;) plus price cuts will be due soon think I read they sold 6 million at Christmas alone. Sure next couple of months will prob be pretty quiet for them but second half of the year and as the summer wraps up they’ll clear the 100 million by end of the year no probs ;)
The Last of Us II will give a massive boost to PS4 sales again. Maybe Death Stranding is going to be another gem. Then there is Ghost of Tsushima and Days Gone and a few others. I'd say 20 million sales in 2019 is possible, if all those games will be released this year
The PS4 never broke Wii's records for fastest selling yet it is easily going to sail past Wii's total sales. Just goes to show that this isn't a sprint, but a marathon.
PS4 did sell faster than Wii at a point but then fell behind. It’ll surpass Wii by August or September
Also shows the Wii was god like, it deserves a lot more respect for selling so much in a short time
PS2 is God like, selling 155 million units is out of this world.
Nah....just shows Wii was popular with non-gamers. It had shit software overall for core gamers outside of a few first party Marios and such.
Especially since it was $249.
Nah, Wii was a fad that sold fast in the beginning and then died out as the gen went by. Most people had their Wii collecting dust.
"Wii was god like"? How do you arrive at that statement? I won't deny that the Wii was popular but for many, it was a fad that gathered dust within a year of its purchase although for some it was their preferred platform. All up the Wii sold about 101 million worldwide compared to the PS2 which sold approx 159 million. The PS2, unlike the Wii, was able to read both CD's and DVD's as well as being able to play PS1 and PS2 games. It must also be noted that the Wii was released on the 19th November 2006 while the PS3 was released on the 11th November 2006 which meant that the Wii was competing against a gaming console that supported up to 1080p resolution whereas the Wii only supported Standard Definition. But in the Wii's favour, it was also cheaper and had games that also appealed (at least initially) to many. Of course, the XBox360 which was released in December 2005 was also a 1080p capable gaming console which made the Wii a previous generation console and it was only with the introduction of the WiiU (November 2012) that the resolution to 1080p was addressed.
No matter how fast Wii sold initially, PS2 still reached 100 million sold faster than Wii.
And soon PS4.
Okay , PS4 ,XBox1 and SWITCH needs to sell 111million more consoles to beat last gen total consoles sold.
Pardon me but 8th Gen is Wii U, XBox One and PS4. The Wii U haas done its part with 12 to 13 million, no way we will know how the XB1 really sold so this summations has no bearing until MS declare official numbers.
Well last gen Xbox was something until 2010 and one earlier year with better stracture was a good thing and real competitor. PS3 did amazing job catching up with Xbox and surpass it because of exclusives and Uncharted 2 and the magnficent Last of Us. Wii on other hand was simply housewives and mommies want to train + its just like if PS2 pro get released and got support for another 6 years, things were easy for Wii, espeacilly with all that pricey PS3 and RROD of X360 made things even easier for Nintendo. Yeah things were very good last gen for everybody. This gen Wii U was just a crap of PS3 pro and weird controller + X1 is a lame platform and useless and underperformance piece with all these 900p and below titles + no excluscives except the three mains and their spin offs, which was the case since 2012 with x360. Switch is late to party console which is about last gen ports(Kart) and only about Pokemon Zelda, M:O and SSBU which are the only games sold very well and the rest were below million except for Splatoon, Octopath and Xenoblade.
I also think ps+ was a massive game changer in bringing PS3 closer to Xbox they were giving top quality games away each month can’t wait to see what happens for PS4 once they drop the vita and PS3 free games which have had their day. I remember getting a vita year or so after launch yes memory cards were really expensive? £60 for 32gb which I still use now and still worth a few quid so hardly really expensive compared to apples storage prices and the fact they gave me a free copy of Uncharted for vita street fighter x Tekken Katamari and gravity rush those games alone paid for the memory card if not nearly the console ;) Ps+ gonna get very interesting next few months and without it Microsoft wouldn’t be offering their free games each month either ;) Badboyz09 sales aren’t regressing you cant compare 9/10 years of sales over 5 years worth of sales there’s clearly gonna be a bit of a difference ie 5 years worth of sales but if you insist add the remaining years on so another 4-5 years worth of sales oh and this Gen will sell 300+ million 320 million going on your dubious numbers
PS4 will reach 120 million, Switch 100 million, Xbox One 50 million = 270 million.
Forgetting about Wii U are we
They always do 😔
Wii U sold 13.56 not that much of a difference. But My point was We talk about sales as if they've grown each gen when they are actually regressing. And I see the PS5 & Xbox dropping even more.
Even Nintendo is forgetting about Wii U.
What’s a “Wii U’?
Yeah I can only think they might have something to do with PS3/360 being on sale for over 9 years and ps4 switch xb1 just getting into 5th year. Next year that’ll be nearer 200 million and not with much help from Microsoft ;)
Go do your research on what all consoles sold in the same timespan. HInt: THE SAME
Make your mind up one minute we’re regressing next we’re the same that’s not even possible but nice one
Pardon me but I have to correct you brother. 7th Gen was Xbox360, PS3 and Wii 8th Gen is Wii U, Xbox One and PS4 9th Gen will be Switch, next Xbox and PS5.
Putting it in to context 91.6m x £300 = £27,480,000,000 add ps plus subscription to it and other sales. Ps plus games could be bit better, just saying.
Deduct manufactoring and transport costs, packaging, marketing and testing, plus you sell at a cheaper price to the retailer. The money is in the games.
Revenue vs profit
Compared to Xbox 360 games and indies on xb1? Hardly like they’ve offered AAA games on games with gold. Come March once free games are only available for PS4 we’ll see what they offering then. Again it’ll be much better than what Xbox begrudgingly give.
Wait, I thought the PS3 eventually outsold the Xbox 360 at the end of its lifecycle?? Xbox 360 (2005) – 84 million units PlayStation 3 (2006) – 83.8 million units
Im sure it did but there are no official numbers to put it to bed. 360 stopped production before ps3 did. Just extrapolating the last numbers announcements puts ps3 on top. Theres also the argument that ps3 vs 360 ended in a virtual tie even with a year between them.
Microsoft always reported sales to retailers. Sony and Nintendo go by sales to consumers. Easy to see who had more.
It means Sony is doing well, no other context for it With sales it shows Europe and America is their market, if they had Japan the way Nintendo does they would be at 100 to 105 million sales, without Japan they need America and Europe to pick up the slack Nintendo on other hand mostly strong in America and Japan, while a little above average in Europe would make them top out around 3ds to Wii sales by time the system finish sell. So you gotta gave Sony props even with Nintendo owning Spain and France, Sony own the rest of Europe and America to pick up the slack for Japan in order to sell this well
It mean Sony isn’t slowing down.