So What if The Last of Us Part 2 Multiplayer Has Microtransactions?

The Last of Us Part 2 multiplayer details have emerged, and if it's anything like the original, gamers have nothing to worry about. The Last of Us handled the multiplayer microtransactions well enough, and was good enough, to get away with it.

[isarai]

Guessing itll just be like U4, where its just gonna be for cosmetics like in U4

[Movefasta1993]

LOL you clearly haven't played last of us 1 if you think it's just cosmetics

[zombiewombie]

Thats why he said it would be like U4, foo.

[CorndogBurglar]

I don't know why your getting downvoted. TLoU1 MP did have MT's that were not just cosmetic. They sold guns and weapons.

[Movefasta1993]

@Cornor you know why lol it's a defense mechanism ,

[Nitrowolf2]

@corn @Move

While he’s not wrong about the 1st game, the reason he brought up UC4 MP which obviously came out after TLOUS. People got vocal for the Multiplayer, which played an influence in the MT for Uncharted 4.

No doubt they won’t continue the trend, otherwise they have another dead MP killed off by dlc that separates its community

[CorndogBurglar]

@ Nitrowolf

Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't aware that's what happened for U4 to be cosmetic only.

That probably would have gotten his point across much better if he had mentioned any of that in his original comment instead of getting smart with people who were wondering what he meant.

[bouzebbal]

"So What if The Last of Us Part 2 Multiplayer Has Microtransactions?"

So what if you just STFU and let them do their thing first?

[UltraNova]

If rumors are frowned upon here then what about straight "what if" articles?

Just throwing it out there.

[Forn]

I agree it wasn't a good system in TLoU, and that Uncharted has always been better balanced. But honestly, it didn't bother me. My loadout only ever included the pistol as my weapon, and I consistenly dominated in that game.

[Tri-Again]

Uncharted 4 had dlc weapons though.

[isarai]

no it doesn't...
https://store.playstation.c...

EDIT: in case you're wondering, that's the "All DLC" page for U4

[STARS]

Coming from someone who still plays UC4 MP, from Day 1, all of the weapons, DLC guns included, can all be unlocked in-game. No P2W in Uncharted 4 MP.

[Sono421]

Honestly it better not have DLC weapons like Tlou1. Because the online was amazing, but the DLC guns completely ruined the balancing, that one shotgun was so ridiculously overpowered. Which was a shame because I think the multiplayer in that game was severely underrated, truly one of the best MP's i've ever played.

[CorndogBurglar]

Did you not play The Last of Us 1 multiplayer? It had MT's that were certainly not just cosmetic. It had guns also.

[isarai]

yeah, and then people lashed back, and in U4 they didn't do that, so im guessing they learned their lesson, and will be more like U4, like i said in my comment, TWICE

[SpinalRemains138]

Correct, which was prior to U4. The practice has been trashed.

[Christopher]

Wasn't it TLoU that had "quicker"access to an OP weapon via MTX? That's definitely in the realm of P2W,

Honestly, if it is not just cosmetics, I'm not for it in game modes that rely on balance.

[CorndogBurglar]

"Guessing itll just be like U4, where its just gonna be for cosmetics like in U4"

Show me where this comment says any of the things you just explained. It doesn't. All this says is that you think it will be like U4 and be cosmetic only. It doesn't say anything about WHY you think that, or that fan backlash caused U4 to be cosmetic only. Does it? I mean it's only one poorly written sentence so I'm pretty sure you didn't mention any of that stuff even ONCE. Much less TWICE.

So instead of getting upset with people questioning your comments maybe do a better job of explaining yourself rather than posting some one sentence comment that doesn't explain anything you mean.

[isarai]

who says im upset? im chill as hell, just having a healthy argument here. when i said "TWICE" was referring to the fact that i was talking about/addressing U4, the last game ND made, the one that didn't use MTs in a P2W because they got backlash from dipping into P2W with TLOU. Everyone keeps bringing up TLOU like that's the only and last MP they did. I'm here saying wouldn't the last MP they did be a better indicator of what they'd do now?

[Nitrowolf2]

https://www.christianpost.c...

The official blog post is gone, but here are the major snippets

“This means that the Uncharted 4 Multiplayer community won't be fragmented by different types of DLC, and that those who are loyal in participating in the community will be rewarded," Robert Cogburn, lead game designer, said in a post at the PlayStation Blog.

And this is the Major Part that indicates it’s a going forward thing

"Our DLC release approach will represent an entirely new direction for Naughty Dog, and we are confident it will have a hugely positive impact and keep the Uncharted 4 Multiplayer community thriving."

While the post doesn’t directly state it was from the backlash, anyone who’s been rooted from the MP since UC2, knows that UC4, least when it came to their Dlc approach was a major change up as all their previous games required purchases of map packs and such. TLOUS part 1 was just the worse they have ever done.

It’s clear they’ve learned and It would be silly of them to do anything else otherwise they sure as heck can expect some backlash.

I’m gonna wait before I say it’s only Cosmetics cause you never know, but there’s a good suggestion it will be.

[Xx_Pistol_xX]

I wouldn't have a problem with the U2 model. Especially since all the DLC maps were free of cost. A great way to not split the player base.

[-Foxtrot]

They brought in weapons which made things unbalanced

The in game store during a match was awful and totally went against the scavenging/low supply thene of the world they were in

[Obscure_Observer]

I´ve been telling people that fanboys whose trash talk GaaS on others platforms are in for a surprise with TLOU 2 AND Death Stranding.

I can´t wait to see the hypocrites giving ND a free pass.

[bannhammer07]

If it's cosmetic I'll get it, but The Last Of Us post vanilla version added some nasty pay-to-win stuff. Naughty Dog knows better than that though.

[badz149]

Question is, what if ND delay the MP portion of the game and release it later when all the reviews already out like GTAV and RDR2, will reviewers review the game as it is or deduct the points because they will claim it as incomplete?

[ApocalypseShadow]

So What if The Last of Us Part 2 Multiplayer Has Microtransactions?

So What if The Last of Us Part 2 Multiplayer...

So What if The Last of Us Part 2...

So What if...

So What

**if it's anything like the original, gamers have nothing to worry about.**

Why is this a question? Why is this an article?

[Kribwalker]

https://www.destructoid.com...

There would be plenty to worry about if they make it Pay To Win like they did in the previous game......

[UCForce]

For me, i’m against MT in AAA games even they are Pay To Win or cosmetics. In my previous comments, I did said that Naughty Dog could use UC4 MT style or get rid of it(which I prefer the second option). I haven’t touch Uncharted 4 MP just as Halo 5 MP ever since.

[DarXyde]

Kribwalker,

"The Frontier Rifle sits in between the Semi-Auto Rifle and the Hunting Rifle in terms of damage and fire rate; it takes two shots to down where the Semi-Auto takes three and it has a better fire rate than the Hunting Rifle."

And then this was said...

"There are benefits to the default weapons. The Hunting Rifle can one-hit a full health enemy with a headshot where the Frontier Rifle cannot. "

And THAT is why I'm awesome at The Last of Us' multiplayer without having spent a dime on DLC. I'm pretty efficient with the hunting rifle.

I'm fairly convinced that you get some kind of pleasure out of concern trolling. Are microtransactions okay? For multiplayer cosmetics, sure. For people who are eager to expedite their single player progress, fine (e.g., Devil May Cry V). For weapons that grant too many advantages, no. However, I've never felt hopelessly outmatched playing the multiplayer for The Last of Us using base gear. And the last time I played multiplayer was a couple of months ago. Had you played it or had serviceable skills, you might know that there isn't any "disadvantage" (if you want to call it that) that would be considered play-to-win or game-breaking.

[ApocalypseShadow]

I'm not worried about multi-player as I'm only going to be playing single player when the emphasis on the game is SINGLE PLAYER.

An article talking about WHAT IFS.

Who cares. If the online is like the last game, where's the worry?

N4G is turning into ridiculous questions, rumors and opinions instead of news.

Gamers should be tired of this nonsense.

[BQ32]

Lmao pay to win, the original weapons are still the most powerful if your good at the game.

[BadElf]

Because people get butthurt over micro penises...
EDIT: Microtransactions

[CorndogBurglar]

No one's butt is getting hurt over a micro penis

[Purrfection]

Getteing a little defensive again I see. The first game had it, it's a legit question in a time where so many are so eager to dump on others like EA even when a developer like Bioware comes out and tells everyone it won't have it.

Are you seriously trying to imply Sony is untouchable because of how many good things they;ve done?

[rainslacker]

Might be a legit question, but the purpose of the article is to drive hits based on an unknown. It's drumming up discord before there is any reason to cast judgement on the game itself.

Sony isn't untouchable. Everything they do is over-scrutinized by the press when some random twitter person puts a bug in their head about what might be a good story. ND announces a MP mode....not much is said about it, but the first article to have any notice about it is a question discussing if it will be like the last games.

Sony's more recent history suggests that the MT may not be as big of a thing. UC4 didn't was cosmetic. GT:S was just to have a way to get cars, or livery, by paying, instead of grinding, but it's not a game that requires excessive grinding to get any one thing. Everything else I can think of off the top of my head is just story based DLC.

To answer the question though....so what if it does? TLOU MP was highly praised. The MT got some flack, but ultimately the MP content was still successful. Same will happen again most likely. The Xbox fan boys will try to make it out as the worst thing ever, trying to call hypocrisy because Sony fan boys will probably try to defend it. Sadly, these discussions are so predictable, that the outcome can be known, without even being that observant. The people concerned about it now, are only concerned because they have a history of not talking well about Sony. And the Sony fans don't seem to care at this point. And there is nothing to care about yet, because nothing is known.

[Obscure_Observer]

@rainslacker

"Sony isn't untouchable. Everything they do is over-scrutinized by the press when some random twitter person puts a bug in their head about what might be a good story. ND announces a MP mode....not much is said about it, but the first article to have any notice about it is a question discussing if it will be like the last games."

Over-scrutinized? Please. Stop playing victim on behalf of Sony. They lied about microtransactions on Gran Turismo. They ONLY favored Epic (money) regarding crossplay with other consoles over games like Rocket League (more popular) while they were saying that they were only protecting the children. Same BS excuse they gave for their new censorship practices. They skipped both PSX 2018 and E3 2019 leaving the fans wondering why they did it while remaning silent on every single occasion.

They will only speak about issues and controversies if gamers and the media drops enough pressure over them, and you know it!

Microtransactions on TLOU 2´s MP is a giving! No sure why you think ND will drop it since its present in the original game. Add this fact to Sony´s recent track record regarding Gran Turismo Sport MTs and voilá!

I don´t know why fanboys are under the impression that Sony is all about SP Only games with no MP or MTs. But it´s gonna be funny to see all of their hipocrisy exposed after all that crap they said about Anthem, EA and Microsoft.

You said yourself that Halo Infinite would be a MP only game based on nothing but your clueless notion regarding Microsoft business. You said Game Pass would be a free to play/GaaS playground based on nothing but your own opinion and here you are telling people how Sony is victim of biased media and clickbait articles.

You know what they said: "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at other people's glass houses"

[rainslacker]

@obscure

I can't think of enough games from this gen which had mt to be able to speak about if those are over scrutinized.

But practically everything else they've done software wise has been over scrutinized, and even had controversy put to it which usually wasn't true.

So, I'm not trying to make.sony out to be a victim, I'm just stating that Sony has a lot of unwarranted negativity thrown their way. Not usually by the press in reviews, but certainly the same people in the community who seem to think the people are being unfair towards MS.

I'd say mt are probably a given in tlou2 mp. Never said otherwise. But this article, and some I this thread are over scrutinizing those mt before they even know what they'll be like, and already using the opportunity to call out hypocrisy based on an entirely hypothetical subject for now.

I haven't read every comment here, but Sony's focus seems to be sp. I haven't seen anyone say they are sp only though. In fact, when people call them out for not having mp, most are able to list the mp games Sony has. But Sony's main focus isn't on such things. Having it, and focusing on it are two different things.

I never said infinite would be only mp. I said I wouldn't be surprised, because the infinite moniker is sometimes used to say the game is unending, which is a tenant of GaaS, which ms was talking up a lot. But once again, good job twisting my words to mean something else. Something you always do. It's sad you even still trym

[Obscure_Observer]

@rainslacker

"But once again, good job twisting my words to mean something else. Something you always do."

Nice try with your deflection card. Twisting your words you say, Hu? Let´s see...

"I never said infinite would be only mp."

Never? Your own words:

"I EXPECT this to be MP only, MAYBE with some basic SP campaign thing ala BFV."
https://n4g.com/news/217767...

There´s an abyss between what would one expect and what wouldn´t one be surprised for. No offence, but, in case you have a faulty memory, i´m not to blame.

At least try and be honest with yourself and move on

[Blastoise]

Microtransactions in paid games are bad. Simple as that

[DarXyde]

I don't agree.

Cosmetic DLC often requires one of two things: playing to unlock or buying outright. Consider the meaning behind both actions: if you play to unlock, you will obviously need to invest time. This is fine and, if a game is fun, you will spend more time playing it and advertise the game to your friends since they can see you playing it (unless you opt to appear offline). That's good. However, if you're paying for cosmetic DLC, ask yourself, how much did you REALLY want that cowboy hat? I see paying for cosmetic DLC as a developer's way of accepting donations.

When it comes to weapons that grant profound advantages and disrupt a game's balance, I'm more willing to agree with you. That is problematic, but one solution to this would be compartmentalizing lobbies for people with higher-tier gear, exceptions being when invitations and group voting are involved. Not perfect and far from ideal, but I doubt it's going anywhere.

[Razzer]

Agree. Competitive advantages should not be allowed. That affects the game and enjoyment of others. But harmless DLC shouldn't even be an issue. If someone wants to buy a new hat for their online character....who the hell am I to say "no you can't"? In that case, I'm the one affecting the game and enjoyment of others.

And fact of the matter is that without MTs, games would not still have a base price of $60. They have been at the same price point for over ten years. So if you want game prices to rise...yeah, rant all you want about MTs.

[DarXyde]

Razzer,

"And fact of the matter is that without MTs, games would not still have a base price of $60. They have been at the same price point for over ten years. So if you want game prices to rise...yeah, rant all you want about MTs."

^^This guy gets it.^^

As unpopular as my opinions can be, I frequently state that development teams are getting larger, games are getting bigger, taking more time, and--as a consequence-- are becoming more expensive to develop. I do not mind microtransactions that are innocuous; help yourself to a hat, skin, pimp cane, color swap, etc. I'm not even entirely against paying for extra weapons--the game just needs to be re-balanced to respond to that. Most fighting games do this, actually: when a new character is available, other characters in the game tend to receive nerfs or buffs to re-calibrate the experience OR the new character is designed to avoid polarizing advantages or disadvantages relative to the existing characters. I think microtransaction DLC just needs a "do no harm" policy integrated so a game's community remains stable. I think it's just easy for people to see the word "microtransactions" and freak out. I think it is quite reasonable to see cosmetic DLC as a "support us" gesture. In very many cases, one can actually get loot boxes without spending actual money and acquire gear.

I don't condone the shoddier practices of developers like pay-to-win, locking single player endings behind paywalls (e.g., Prince of Persia 2008), or Street Fighter V's asinine grinding system. There is a right way to approach this, and I don't think The Last of Us has violated that. So far, I would say they operate within acceptable parameters.

[LamerTamer]

Yes it is the games are bigger now argument. It is dumb because you only tell part of the story. The games market is also much bigger so it makes up for more expensive development with the many more game sales.

[DarXyde]

LamerTamer,

Couple of things:

First, while it is possible for developers to profit, the past few years should clue you in to the perpetual state of many developers. In some cases, developers are just one flop away from closing their doors.

Second, it is grossly disingenuous to say developers can make up for it with more sales. You assume sales will keep pace with market growth. Obviously, that is not something that can be concluded so pointedly. Sure, some games do that like Call of Duty or Rockstar games, but those are exceptions, not the rule.

[Razzer]

@LamerTamer

You don't account for the entire story either. $60, adjusted for inflation, would be $49 back in 2006 when the last gen started. In reality, the amount we pay for a game has actually decreased since last gen. And saying the market has is bigger doesn't account for the increased competition in the market. People complain about game stores being flooded with games. It isn't so simple as to say the market is bigger.

[Dreamcatcher45]

Yup.

[King_Noctis]

It is not a good thing, no matter which company made the game. People shouldn’t defend this just because the game is made by their favourite company which could never do wrong in their eyes.

[Razzer]

"People shouldn’t defend this just because the game is made by their favourite company which could never do wrong in their eyes."

And you shouldn't assume that is the reason people defend MTs. I defended MTs back when Shadow of Mordor was released when folks went nuts about this shit. Has nothing to do about Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo. I want publishers and devs to be free to sell and gamers free to buy.

[rainslacker]

Is there anything to defend or criticize at this point? This article is a hypothetical. Some people are talking as if it's a forgone conclusion.

What the last game had in it wasn't really out of the ordinary for the time. It's not even out of the ordinary now. It's just getting more significant heat over such practices, and the community in general is starting to push back against excessive MT and P2W games, with the least amount of effort put into them to make them into full games to begin with.

TLOU had some of the most praised MP game play of last gen. It's MT structure got criticism. What if TLOU2 has MT? I say more is going to be made of it than it needs to be, regardless of what kind of MT they are, they'll be made into the worst thing ever, and accusations of hypocrisy will abound. This thread is already showing it.

[ocelot07]

It depends if it's cosmetics only and future DLC maps will be free then I have no issues with it. If they have the cheek to put in MT and charge for the DLC maps then ill be buying the game second hand.

[Kribwalker]

exactly. The way it was implemented in Halo 5 is the perfect way to implement it. Cosmetic based MTs that can be bought with easy to earn in game currency or paid for with cash (there was a few special edition armour sets that were pay only) and a tonne of free content. I would take that over paid DLC any day of the week.

Once you get in paid for advantages tho i’m not ok with

[The Wood]

Kool

[Rude-ro]

Halo was not cosmetic though.
It had advantages that you could get.

[Jrios355]

A better example would be Overwatch. Its loot box microtransactions are strictly cosmetic, and obviously don't impact gameplay. It's working well for Blizzard seeing as we get free maps, free characters, and free content via patches.

[bluefox755]

I'm always opposed to microtransactions, but as long as they draw the line with cosmetics, I can live with it.

[Obscure_Observer]

@bluefox755

Lol. Whatever you say, dude. GaaS is not a problem when it´s Sony doing it, right?

[itBourne]

They locked guns and game play mechanics behind a paywall... on what planet is that handling things well?

[The Wood]

Who?

[The7Reaper]

What do you mean who? Naughty Dog, the multiplayer of The Last of Us 1 was basically pay to win.

[The Wood]

I didn't know that. . . I never played the mp part. Sad times

[lillekolibri]

Couldnt care less as long as the game comes out. Will be the game of the century.

[StormLegend]

MP is last of my concern about this game. I only care for the gameplay/story and ibknow that's gonna be superb

[Atom666]

Paying extra to "even the playing field" should not be excused or diminished. The game was fantastic, yes, but adding that kind of scheme was unnecessary and exploitive by definition.

ND is the best in the world, but that crap, and their "online passes" last gen were bad. UC4's MTs were a more reasonable standard, so hopefully the powers that be keep heading in that direction.

If the MTs are bad, I'm still 100% certain that TLoU2 will be GOTY worthy though. If the MTs are bad, I'll complain about them, not spend money on them, but still enjoy the game. Same as most games these days.

Also, I lol'd at the author's defensiveness. Defending bad MTs doesn't make you a shill. Maybe a bit of a fanboy, and maybe a bit short sighted, but we get it. MTs are in some of the best games out there.

Shills and sock puppets will deflect negative news (or positive news from the other camp), question sources, and try to change the subject to one of their choosing. They're a much different problem, but easy enough to identify...

[The Wood]

Winner

[generic-user-name]

"UC4's MTs were a more reasonable standard, so hopefully the powers that be keep heading in that direction."

And that's almost certainly is the direction they'll be heading, there's no reason to think otherwise, U4's cosmetic only MT's were a direct response to TLoU 1's MT's. This is a slow news day article.

[Inzo]

No AAA title should have MTs, end of story.

[Razzer]

Why? They are optional. Just don't buy them if you don't want them.

[Imalwaysright]

Back in the day everything would be unlocked for free just by playing the game. There's a chance that the same can be true for a game with MTs but in those cases devs usually make you grind 100s of hours to unlock everything.

[The Wood]

You're showing your age IAR. . . These things were challenges that needed graft to unlock. The weaker ones are getting exploited. Back in the day we would download skin packs for free. . Mods by randoms for free. This is why I miss pc gaming.

Personally I don't mind cosmetic stuff as people wanna look different. . Whatever but zero tolerance for play to win on paid games. That seems to be the consensus in here barring those trying to sling mud at the opposition

[King_Noctis]

If they are so optional, then why include it? At which point will optional become almost mandatory, as we have seen in recent games?

[Razzer]

"If they are so optional, then why include it? At which point will optional become almost mandatory, as we have seen in recent games?"

Because some are willing to pay money to change their character's looks? So what? Who am I to tell someone else what they can and can't do with their money. No....I don't think they should be used to force more grinding and that should be called out, but the fact is that not all MTs are bad. Most are harmless.

The only "mandatory" transaction is buying the game in the first place.

[The Wood]

Pay to win not play to win. . . .smh

[CrimsonWing69]

Then I won’t buy said micro transactions?

[Skankinruby]

Dont care, multiplayer wont factor into the importance of this masterpiece.

[wheatley]

Then we riot :P

[neomahi]

Because when you pay that $60, you ought to be able to get everything intended for that game. That's how we did business back in the day. There was no DLC. The developers put their heart and soul into games because they loved what they did. They play tested the crap out of those because once it went gold, there was no fixing it. It was pressed on that disc or sent out on that cartridge. Now? Return on investment and meeting deadlines instead of releasing a quality product. Ask Barlog about releasing God of War II vs God of War 2018. It's about cutting costs, firing testers, disecting the game before everyone goes on vacation, and then slowly picking your pocket over time. Thankfully, Gran Tourismo Sport saw this vs Forza. We appreciate the customer and want the best gaming experience for them, we want them to have what we made at the cost of every other game, from us to them. Sort of mindset. Microsoft has enough money without having to pick your pockets, don't they? Is it really necessary for a corporation to go for pennies and dimes when they blow $1000 on a single interview trip they know they're going to tell the guy "No" on? Spend your money wiser and pass along those savings onto your customers to keep them happy. (That's not an exaggeration Bytheway, corporations will take a nobody, fly him halfway across the country, wine and dine him, cover his lodging for the night, interview him for maybe an hour at most, and fly him back home knowing they were going to tell him no anyway, they just like to throw money around, I've seen it done at least five times in a months period of time, and who suffers? The consumer does).

[DaDrunkenJester]

If I'm not mistaken. Forza Motorsport 7 and Forza Horizon 4 both do not have MT's... FM7 had prize crates, but you could not buy them with real money, but even those were removed.

[Kainbrightside]

Remember when cosmetics used to be unlockable in game content without an absurd amount of grinding or paying real money?

[DaDrunkenJester]

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[moomoo319]

Nah microtransactions fucked up the balance of TLOU multiplayer big time, was very hard to jump back in after time away.

[BadElf]

If they write Ellie as a SJdubb..mp microtransactions wont be the worst thing

[BadElf]

Micro trans action.

I looked it up on spankbang....not great.

[mandingo]

Oh now it’s ok to have MT cuz it’s sony

[Ristul]

Most people claim the opposite, so I don't know what you're talking about.

[The Wood]

Another projector

[mandingo]

I'm responding to this article

[WhiteyFox]

What if? It won't matter. Fanboys will probably make a good thing out of it any way so..

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Alternative title; "Microtransactions are only a good thing when Sony does them!"
This site sometimes, good lord...

[King_Noctis]

You might get marked as appropriate for saying that you know.

[Silly gameAr]

Well, the comment section is about how I imagined it would be. People popping up out the woodwork, with their "OH, IT'S COOL BECAUSE SONY IS DOING IT, RIGHT GUYZZZ"? Have MT's been confirmed? No? Well, that's ok. We'll act petty anyway. I guess they have to take their shots when they see the opportunity, even when nothings been confirmed.

[Obscure_Observer]

@Silly gameAr

"I guess they have to take their shots when they see the opportunity, even when nothings been confirmed."

Lol. If Sony LIED to our faces regarding microtransactions on GT Sports, what´s makes you think that ND will follow the oposite route and get rid of MT´s which were present in the original TLOU game?

[PhoenixUp]

This would’ve gotten more outrage if it weren’t a title from Naughty Dog

[mafiahajeri]

If they can pull of a BR mode and do it right with skins from the Sony exclusive universe 😮 I would pay for a Helghast and Kratos skin 🤤

[Movefasta1993]

Last of us 2 mp with br would be awesome, the first one is almost like br with the scavenging anyways

[Persian_Immortal]

They should bring back the relic system from Uncharted where you could get up to 2000 relics a day from challenges which is the equivalent of 6-7 chests. Another idea would be for them to follow the Killzone Shadowfall formula and let players have access to all guns day 1 and future weapons alongside the maps instead of paying for said content and splintering the community and breaking the balance of play.

[DaDrunkenJester]

"The Last of Us handled the multiplayer microtransactions well enough, and was good enough, to get away with it."

Um, no, Pay 2 Win MT's are NEVER okay in a MP game. Sorry.

[lellkay]

I hope Naughty Dog have ZERO Microtransactions in TLOU2

[william_cade]

It will be shit just like all online games. But the actual game looks to be great.

[pinkcrocodile75]

I hate zombie games, films and telly programs, I've never liked them. Give me Clive Barker's Hell Raiser any day, come to think about it, I recon he'd write a stunning story for a video game.

Back to the subject I think the first game was good but it freaked me out and I refused to continue with it or watch my man play it. As for part 2, I'll feel the same way though I will buy it for HIM to play. As for Micro-transactions and multiplayer ASK MY ARSE on both counts.

[ShadowWolf712]

Yeah, no.

I wasn't cool with it then, I won't be now either. MTs do not, under any circumstances, belong in a full-price game. Period.

[VerminSC]

People think naughty dog gets a free pass and shouldn’t but here’s the thing. Naughty dog is releasing a single player game that will be fully realized and complete. The multiplayer is just extra. If god of war had multiplayer it would get a free pass too, because the campaign is so amazing and full.

[Rimeskeem]

Good thing it will have a bomb ass SP.

[BenRC01]

It gets 10/10 and they make a few quid from people that like purple hats. Or we could all kill ourselves. I'm 50/50.

[sampsonon]

When a single player game on the scale of TLoU2 is released with a full length epic story i could care less about MP MT'S.

[georeo]

Did you even play the last of us online?

[nommers]

The Last of Us becoming The Rest of Us.

[N8]

The first one had microtransactions

[WitcheRivia]

What if a Sony exclusive has microtransactions?
What if Sony starts charging to play on PSN?
What if Sony starts censoring games?
What if Sony hates cross-player?

They're fanboys. They'll eat that shit up no matter what happens as long as it's Sony doing it.

[ghostrider32]

It's a special place in Hell, for the person that thought micro transactions was a bright idea. Damn con artists.

[AK91]

That's fine just keep that sh*t out of the SP and I'm cool

[BLUEKNIFE]

What if the TLOU 2 multiplayer DOESN'T have MT ?

[rainslacker]

The question could quite literally be applied to any game. I don't see any reason why one game has to be singled out, especially when it's likely it will have them. The impact that has on the game are likely to be nothing at all, because most people are going to buy it for the sp. The mp stuff will be added bonus for the majority. Beyond that, what people think of the mt will depend on their disposition on the subject, and what kind of my they are. The former is subjective, the latter is unlnown.

[nucky64]

i'm only interested in LoU2 story campaign - so, no problem for me.

[Profchaos]

Fingers crossed they sell purely cosmetic items and not weapons

[Mr_Writer85]

"So What if The Last of Us Part 2 Multiplayer Has Microtransactions?"

Then I just won't buy them.

And if it's P2W? I just won't play it, simple.

But let's be honest who is buying not just TLOU, but any ND game for the MP?

MP is a nice little bonus, but other than TLOU, I've rarely or even never touched MP on a ND game, and the only reason I stuck with it on TLOU is because I wanted the platinum trophy.

[toddybad]

I loved TLOU - favourite game ever - but the MP was pay to win.

[OffRoadKing]

The comment section will melt down.

[Artemidorus]

This game will have them it's too popular not to have them. Major respect if proven wrong.

[Imortus_san]

Fans will deffend it with their souls even if they say bad things about microtransactions in other games.

[KillBill]

It will be labeled as the best thing since sliced bread and people will defend it like their lives depend on it.

[BlackRaven85_1]

Even when you buy The Last of Us: Remastered Edition you still had the online Multiplayer weapons, perks and abilities locked behind a pay wall that you had to buy separate if you want the full experience.

I remember some fans being angry and the studio didn't buckle and told people it's because cost of development was high. A dumb answer even when Naughty Dog could have put everything in one package for the Remastered Edition, but still didn't.

[sampsonon]

what devs will start doing is cutting back on their hrs and giving us just a basic game. it's not worth it for them to work 80 hrs per week for extra content in order to have the community complain.

i can see it now " wow! that gun looks f-ing great!" "but don't make it cause people will cry if they have to buy it for the price of a large coffee" "just make the basics".

[sampsonon]

too all you a$$$ holes that think making extra content that is made after a game has released ie, weapons, story or cosmetics i say to you this.... go to work and have you boss get you to work overtime for free. then tell me that's ok.
when you get a full game like the last of us 2 which doesn't need a mp at all, but they decide to make one(icing on the cake) they have the right to have MT'S to support the extra time i took to make the added MP.

idea!, make something and sell it. if people buy it then great. but if you keep working to add items to the completed product, would you give it away for free? or because you're still working everyday creating add ons, wouldn't you want to be payed for the extra work?

[Skankinruby]

Bingo. Anyone complaining about MT's are clearly not familiar with running a business or payroll and the time and expenses involved. It's like going to a market during holiday season to set up a Thanksgiving feast then complaining to management saying 'I bought the Turkey so I shouldn't have to pay for the stuffing, yams, mashed potatoes, or cranberry sauce'. Silly ignorance but unfortunately extremely common, I deal with it in my business all the time.

[Tankbusta40]

Has a video game dev given you Stockholm Syndrome in the past?

[sampsonon]

people act as if these devs sit around laughing doing 4 hr days. they made the game and people will get what's in the game for the money they paid to buy the game. the MP is another story. they will add weapons and gear to it as the year progresses. why they hell shouldn't they ask for us to pay for extra items which is around the price of buying a large coffee?
if i got a contract to build a house and i finished it but then the owner wants a few extra spaces or stairs added, should they pay me for it? or is it part of the original price we decided on?

[sampsonon]

Note From We The Entitled:
We are tired of developers making us pay for things that should already be in the game.
We don't understand why our hard earned dollars should go to content that you held back from the main game or the fact that we should have to pay for anything extra like guns, clothes, emotes, ect.. when you could have put all this in the game we purchased for full price in the first place.
We understand you work 80 hr work weeks and you also have immense pressure from the top to release a great product in a small amount of time. We also understand having these pressures can effect your family and friends, and if the product is a failure it could also mean the end of your career.
When we go to work, and believe me we work hard, we gladly work overtime for free and give away all our extra time after the work is done for free.

so why can't you just work all those extra hrs so you can give it to us for nothing? why are you so greedy?

one year later "GAMES RAISED $10 IN ALL COUNTRIES."

We The Entitled: how dare you raise the price on games.

We The Entitled at work complaining 2 days later somewhere in the world. "WE WANT A RAISE"

[Tankbusta40]

Sticking up for microtransactions just boggles my mind and absolutely makes no sense

[sampsonon]

wanting people to get a fair raise for fair work boggles mine.

[sampsonon]

none of the mt's are a part of the actual story. the mp s an add on that is free to play. why shouldn't the people that are working hard on each extra item make a buck or 2?

[ILostMyMind]

The important thing is: It will have single player campaign?

[JokerBoy422]

"Lets bitch to high hell when one game has microtransactions, but not on this game ive been sucking the dick of..." I see how it works now. If you support this shit then that sends a message to the rest of the industry that its ok.

[Tankbusta40]

Agreed, I don't give a damn what developer adds microtransactions...they are all TERRIBLE!