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Brave Neptunia On PS4 Gets Censored, Nintendo Switch Version Remains Uncensored… For Now

"Gameplay images of Brave Neptunia have been shared around after the game released on PS4 in Japan on December 20th, 2018. The Japanese version on PS4 reveals more cloud and light effects to censor the cleavage of the females, while for all intents and purposes the Nintendo Switch version remains uncensored… for now." OAG says.

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FallenAngel19842325d ago

This is further getting out of hand

It’s just downright embarrassing that Nintendo is more lenient with this kind of content than Sony is

travestyj2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

Its embarrassing that any platform allows depictions of naked underage girls on their platform.

fr0sty2325d ago

It's disgusting that your comment got any disagrees at all.

beulahland2325d ago

OMG! It's naked manga!

Kid, you watch worst things on your favorite morning show.
Now...time to bed!

travestyj2325d ago

Which morning show sexualizes young children? If so it shouldn't be on TV

Amplitude2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

The disagrees arent people saying that naked underage girls are okay - its people disagreeing with your comment because the girls aren't underage

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I don't know what underage girls you look at who have bodies shaped like the ones in that game... The art style typically dictates big "dreamy" eyes and traditionally the hair style etc. is as shown. But those are not "little girl" bodies based on my idea of such. I'm fairly certain that no children were harmed in the making of that game. And for the record, I don't even like these kinds of games. I admit that it is becoming disheartening to see a world trying to tell anyone who has an "offensive" voice that they have to apologize, be silenced, or be punished somehow. Right up to the point that someone's rights begin to take away someone else's it seems that we need to defend everyone's rights EVEN IF THEY ARE REPULSIVE TO US. While I do not like the trend to throw in abundant profanity in games (it sounds juvenile and stupid to me *most* of the time), I will defend the developers' rights to do so. I believe we might do well to protect their rights or it is only a matter of time before you will find attempts to silence your "offensive to someone else" expressions. By the way -- I am glad you have your opinion and can express it so we can all talk about it openly ;-).

Kiwi662325d ago

How do you know what an underage girl looks like to begin with

King_Noctis2325d ago

Anime girl you mean. Let not pretend that the game have realistic graphic.

On that topic, it is embarrassing that any platform allow the in game killing of other people on their platform. /s

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travestyj2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

Look at the pictures in the article, they are meant to look like underage girls. A lot of these games actually involve girls that are in high school. And throwing big tits on a little girl also doesnt help their cause.

Look at the main character of the game with pink hair. She is definitely a depiction of a little girl and she gets naked in the game with a bunch of other girls. It's insane to think that's okay.

And are you admitting you would defend a pedophiles right to look at underage girls? That should never be allowed and if that is something you want to do you should seek help immediately or you should be locked up.

Did someone actually ask me how I know what a child looks like? Have you never seen a child before?

It doesnt matter if they are just drawings. Wanting to look at drawings of underage girls is just as messed up.

Someone else suggested I'm for genocide because I'm against sexualizing underage girls.

Some of you are clearly very unstable and I hope you seek help for your issues Being attracted to underage girls and advocating for it means you have serious psychological issues. I know some of you are just young and dont really understand what you are saying but you will when you grow up.

Pedophilia, child porn and child abuse are serious issues and they should not be promoted in the media, especially in video games. And no just because there is a lot of violence in media it still doesnt make it okay to sexualize children. Stop using that as an excuse.

Kids are innocent and should never be sexualized, let them be kids. Sexualize adults all you want as long as they consent to it.

rainslacker2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

Oh yeah....look at all those underage girls represented in the photos..../s

Funnily enough, the one seemingly underage girl in the photos shows the least amount of censorship. Just bigger panties, but everything else remains the same....including the fact you can see her panties. All the same contexts apply otherwise.

This censorship is stupid. It's not like it changes much, except to see the cleavage. The rays of light one is so much, it looks completely idiotic, and it's certainly not of an underage girl.

Face it. This censorship isn't about underage girls being represented. It's about an adversion to showing anything even remotely provocative. Someone finds it offensive, so Sony is bowing to their displeasure. It's not like anything else is offensive to people. Like a lesbian kiss...which was watched by millions on what is arguably the most watched gaming conference show of the year. But that's fine I guess. So long as they're covered up. But lets not appease the people who don't like representations of homosexuality....that'd be wrong to oppress them. Lets just go and appease the puritan idealists or SJW types who seem to think that this kind of representation is some sort of slight towards women or something. If anyone complains, we'll just change what it's actually about, and call anyone complaining pedophiles to shame them into obscurity. That way we don't have to actually think of any real argument to say why this censorship isn't stupid.

"Look at the pictures in the article, they are meant to look like underage girls"

Maybe you should look at them again. I see one that I could reasonably say looks underage. Maybe some in their late teens, the rest look 20'ish, by anime standards at least. Also, high school girls can be of age.

People can look for themselves at the pictures and see that you're argument is completely baseless, and its the same argument you use over and over, even if it doesn't apply. Think of something new, because you aren't really doing much good to make your case, and I'm at the point I think you'ire just doing this to troll because you know people respond. Maybe I should have the mods look into it, because it's getting to the point where you are detracting from the discussion, and actual trolling can be dealt with.

"She is definitely a depiction of a little girl and she gets naked in the game with a bunch of other girls."

YOu don't even know the games if you think that. There is no actual depiction of nudity in these games. Being naked, and being displayed nude are two different things.

"And are you admitting you would defend a pedophiles right to look at underage girls"

No, everyone is saying what they're showing here isn't illegal, and that you're argument is baseless.

"Kids are innocent and should never be sexualized, let them be kids"

I agree. When a game comes along that does that, then I'll condemn it. But these aren't real kids, and no one is oppressing a kids ability to be a kid with these games, or drawings. Manga and games like this have existed for a long time. To date, I'm not aware of any game or Manga that didn't allow a kid to be a kid.

CrimsonWing692325d ago

Did you read the article? They’re censoring cleavage for chrissakes, it has nothing to do with underage girls. Do some due diligence for once.

frostypants2325d ago

Wow. Who knew pedos were so prevalent on N4G?

Kiwi662325d ago

I asked you how do you know what an underage girl looks like and so to answer your question yes i do know what a child looks like as i have 4 children and 3 grandchildren

jlove4life2325d ago

Of course underage nudity is bad but anime is not real and they are young looking from what I heard and seen in the past even the dead alive volleyball controversy with marie she was 17 and not nude but age of consent where i'm from is 17 16 in most states

Cobra9512324d ago

Oh, the poor, abused drawings! What next, an easel getting slapped around?

Cikatriz_ESP2324d ago (Edited 2324d ago )

To the original commenter: Are you protecting someone? These girls can’t thank you, they’re imaginary.

So you must be preventing something, right? These games mainly function as an outlet, and aren’t nearly mainstream enough to be converting innocent men to a life of pedophilia.

With those options eliminated the only conclusion I can settle on is that you’re trying to police morality, but the only person that really benefits is you.

Rachel_Alucard2324d ago (Edited 2324d ago )

@Travesty

I keep seeing you in every single article about Sony censoring video games and you jump right into the underage girl comments. I'm not even going to humor you since you are more obsessed with this then the people you think you are harming. If this was literally as you claim "UNDERAGE GIRLS PEDOS!" then this game would not even be released on this console or any other platform for that matter. None of the shit you write makes any sense.

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8832324d ago (Edited 2324d ago )

Travestyj:
***"Look at the pictures in the article, they are meant to look like underage girls. A lot of these games actually involve girls that are in high school."

Once again, these bodies are absolutely not those of "little girls". They may act childlike, but those bodies are post-pubescent showing adult developmental characteristics. These "adult characteristics" are a critical part of what it seems you might be misunderstanding in the news story and Sony's decision. The controversy and censoring are not because there are depictions of naked females with flat chests, no adult like child bearing hip to waist ratio etc., that appear to be children. No, indeed the controversy is over adult like physical characteristics. A controversy has been created in the posts that was not even the controversy reported on. Additionally, though it is very easy to feel that one's morals are universal, the reality is that even if these depictions were of 15 & 16 year old girls who were unusually well developed for their ages, the "age of consent" through much of the world is below 18. The U.S. magical 18 number is not written in stone tablets for all the world. In fact, 18 is not a scientifically determined age for which only after said age is attraction devoid of illness. I am in the U.S. and openly acknowledge that not everyone has to agree with what constitutes generally accepted ideas among us (though not all states agree with each other for that matter).

***"Look at the main character of the game with pink hair. She is definitely a depiction of a little girl and she gets naked in the game with a bunch of other girls. It's insane to think that's okay."

What do you feel makes her "definitely" a depiction of a "little girl"? What is a "little girl". Surely you do realize there are many adult women in Japan who talk and act like that because it is often enjoyed in Japan (and other places) by people who would not abuse a child? Japan has a fairly peaceful and prosperous society. It may seem crazy to others, but it works for them. We've got to be careful with the judgements passed when it is hard for us to see anything different from our own position. Again, there are adult women who enjoy acting that way and I digress... Those bodies are not pre-pubescent "little girl" depictions.

***""And are you admitting you would defend a pedophiles right to look at underage girls?"

Straw man argument perhaps? I attempted to be very clear in stating I believe that one's own rights should end when they begin to take away another's. Being utilized as a sexual object does in my opinion violate the rights of a child who would not fully comprehend such intent and other complexities associated with it and therefore is outside of the rights of those who would choose to do so to a child or children. It is simple really. Additionally, as I attempted to gently point out and as others have done so, the physical evidence is that these are not children. At worst by your reckoning they represent physically developed individual who to you act like children. And, one more time, they are drawings. It is fairly safe to say that the creators did not use children in the making of the game. The "I don't like this, so it should be silenced, punished etc." approach keeps going. Not good.

It is all a moot point though because, one more time, the censorship has nothing to do with them looking like children and everything to do with hiding the adult sex characteristics (which IRL are generally only present on the fully developed body). And before you go back to feeling like they are really just little girls in grown up bodies... Nevermind, I'll just be going in (more) circles at this point.

MasterOfThe12Blades2324d ago

F&cking pedos! Absolutely disgusting! If you like hand drawn underage girls you can't tell me that you don't have fantasies about real children. And I'm not talking about the article I'm talking about the people on n4g in general.

deno2324d ago

Yeah society in the west has gotten beyond perversion. Look at all these little horny boys slamming their sticky thumbs on the disagree buttons. 👎

RauLeCreuset2324d ago

@travesty

I clicked the article to see what all the hubbub was about. That game depicts at least one underage girl.

RizBiz2324d ago

Come on, now. Everyone knows every single naked girl on the internet is 18 years or older.

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@travestyj

And for the record:

Again, I do not even like these games. And, while I think it is absolutely stupid that Sony chose to blur out the very things that made the characters (clearly in my opinion) NOT little girls. I believe Sony has every right to do whatever the heck they want to. If they want to start putting Burkas on all female depictions, it is their bloody right to do so. I may think it is ridiculous and it is my right to tell them what I think. See how this works?

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neutralgamer19922325d ago

No it's not there is a very very very very yes another very small percentage of gamers who care about games like these so why would you put your reputation on the line for such small rewards

They don't show stuff like this on TV and this shouldn't be allowed uncensored on consoles. Unless the developers who make these games Agree to an Adults ONLY rating(they would never accept the ratings because most retailers won't even agree to carry the game on their shelves)

I for one am with sony on this protect you brand protect your business

Non issue like Bethesda talking crap about sony over cross Play than saying they have no plans for cross play anytime soon

King_Noctis2325d ago

What are you talking about? There had been many hentai styled games on Sony platform before. So why they need to censor it now? To protect them from what?

neutralgamer19922325d ago

King

The society right now is very different compared to even few years ago and most companies don't want unnecessary negative pr

rainslacker2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

You woldn't even be able to release the game on the platform, as Sony doesn't allow AO rated games. These games are rated mature, hence why they're released uncensored on the Switch.

Sony doesn't need to protect it's brand image with this. If that's what they're worried about, then they shouldn't allow any offensive content. That means violence, offensive language, or any sort of provocative situation. No themes which deal with religion or certain personal choices....like homosexuality. All those things have negative perceptions to someone, and it will hurt their image.

There is nothing illegal about what these games contain. Some of them do contain things that may be considered immoral...such as the representation of young looking children. And if that's all this was, then I could probably see why they're doing it. But this policy isn't citing that one thing. It's citing the representation of nudity. This is applied to stuff also represented by adult characters. Whether they're in a sexual situation or not. Just look at the pictures in this article. Censored within a wide range of characters types, and contexts....both young and older....both sexual and not.

The policy is too broad in the way it's implemented, and because of that, I can't support it. In some cases its completely distracting...such as the rays of light on the woman prone in her bra and panties. I don't know the context of that scene, although I can guess based on the series, but there is nothing in it that is actual nudity. Sony seems to be against cleavage or anything representing the groin region. It's wrong, and it can't be defended in it's current form.

I'm all for Sony protecting it's brand image. But it's brand image has been more freedom for the devs with the tools to make it easy to develop on, and allowing a wide range of products to appeal to many markets. This policy effectively removes part of that, and given the nature of the Anime gamer, they're not going to like it, because they've been fighting this kind of censorship both in games and localized anime for decades now. That's an important market, even if it isn't as big as the FIFA or COD market.

It may be a small percentage of people that play these individual games, but realistically, many anime games have some sort of fan service, and if they start getting censored, then just a few games can turn a larger anime gamer market against them....especially if they decide to make it a cause. They're pushing people away to the Switch or PC. Those people may still buy a PS, but they won't be buying the same software. Look at most anime gamer's collections, and you'll see that they tend to buy a lot of games. That's a lot of revenue for Sony to lose, just to appease a small portion of vocal idiots who want to make a fuss.....whose numbers are actually less than the people who buy these kinds of games.

I can't accept that this is to protect their brand. If it is, then I expect any offensive content to be removed from PSVue as well. But I suppose that's legal....but wait....the stuff shown in these games is legal also....otherwise they wouldn't get rated or released.

So many arguments condoning this censorship really don't look at it from the viewpoint of the whole, but instead see a very small picture.

DashMad2325d ago

This game is more tame than some costume on FGO (Fate Grand Order) mobile gacha game that Sony Published lol, protect the children my ass this is just bullying small dev.

TekoIie2324d ago

@neutralgamer1992

"The society right now is very different compared to even few years ago and most companies don't want unnecessary negative pr"

"The" Society? You mean the one where Nintendo does this and receives no backlash? Also they've received more negative PR from censoring and ore than likely lost sales to rival platforms like Nintendo and PC.

Also worth pointing out their own published games contain far more questionable content but no censorship there. So its okay for them to do it but not 3rd parties.

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ILostMyMind2325d ago

Let Nintendo be sued and they will change.

Muzikguy2324d ago

Sony just needs to allow AO games on their console and be done with it. All this censorship is stupid. If someone is offended DON'T BUY THE GAME!

Veneno2324d ago

Yes they should allow the AO content but make it difficult so that not just any kid can go up to the counter or online and buy this stuff. Make a thorough age verification system of some kind and charge heavy penalties like jailtime for not following the system or selling to minors.

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Highlife2324d ago

Censor away this pedo crap needs to go

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Felix_Argyle_Catbro2325d ago

Diehard Sony fans told me that I'm a pedophile if I complain about overlord Sony's censorship. Which is weird considering that most things that get censored feature adult characters.

I guess I could call them murderers for liking RDR2.

Say no to censorship. First they come for the erotic content, then they will come for the violence.

Kashima2325d ago

Catherine full of adult women and they still censor it

rainslacker2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

I'm a diehard Sony fan, and know that I don't think you're a pedophile. I mean....maybe you are....but you're enjoyment of these games, or your stance on this topic wouldn't be something I could use to determine that, so I'll just assume that you aren't, since statistically speaking, it's unlikely that you are.

Most of the games that are being censored don't feature apparent underage girls. Most of the people calling you a pedophile don't even know what the word means. It's just a shaming tactic because they can't think of any real argument to support piracy that doesn't make them look like they're part of a defense force that really shouldn't exist.

And this is from me....probably one of the biggest Sony fans on this site, and certainly thought of as a fan boy by many of those thought to be Xbox fan boys. If some of the bigger Xbox fan boys actually decided to come in here on this, then I'd probably end up agreeing with them....except on the notion this will kill Sony in a big way. But the funny thing is, they aren't really making a fuss about this. Maybe just making some off handed remark in other articles. They don't have to come in on this, because a lot of the people complaining are people I know to be Sony fans, or at least they have a history of supporting Sony.

JackBNimble2324d ago

So if you're so against censorship of these games, then why dont you and the out raged fans send the American law makers in DC petitions against censorship.
There is tons of old content that could be shown about what was censored.

I wonder what DC law makers would think ?

rainslacker2324d ago

The government can only make laws about free speech, which is what censorship falls under, based on its own purview. Making laws against it is unconstitutional, because any private entity, Sony in this case, is within their rights to exercise their own free speech by saying they don't want this on their system.

Since sexual media doesn't fall within the laws surrounding equal rights, there is really nothing the lawmakers could do, and it's unlikely that they would anyways, because lawmakers prefer to pander, and no way they're going to take a stand on a topic which upsets the puritan or vocal minorities in the country.

Im doing what I can, and saying what I can where I can, and taking opportunities to express to Sony how I don't like these policies. I'm being reasonable when addressing them directly. But doesn't mean I'm just going to let the issue die in the community, because proactive efforts can still be done while I criticize them in discussion.

DashMad2325d ago

This is just hypocrisy by Sony censored these games on console but FGO on mobile remain uncensored.

Rachel_Alucard2324d ago (Edited 2324d ago )

Getting called a pedophile for not accepting censorship of another's work is the result of ignorance and the way American culture likes to lump all sex acts under the same roof, and just know they have no defense or ammo to fall back on. Don't accept this crap just out of fear of getting called a pedo. Anyone with common sense knows this makes absolutely no sense.

That Neptunia pic has freaking Vert and another adult woman getting censored too. This whole thing seems to be pointed at casual sexualization and is focused on the context of it.

Muzikguy2324d ago

I don't know if it's getting worse or what but it seems like things are getting lumped together more and more these days. I don't understand why people think that so many things are comparable. Maybe it's that extra effort to make oneself seem right all the time, idk. Could even be "American culture" as you say. I don't have much knowledge of others. I do argue a lot on FB about it though with people that create analogies out of their butts.

Rachel_Alucard2324d ago

What I don't understand is why even waste your time attacking people that enjoy these games? Legit the mindset of the people attacking literally think that if you like seeing fictional sexualized girls you must like the real thing, when that doesn't make any sense since we don't think that way with any other adult content, just anything with sex has this instant trigger in these people. I have a few female friends that play Senran Kagura and Neptunia, but people think only horny neckbeards play those games, it's incredibly ignorant and out of touch to generalize everything because you don't like the content in question.

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frostypants2324d ago (Edited 2324d ago )

Whether or not it's censorship has zero to do with having pedo tendencies. Your argument is complete nonsense. It can be censorship AND the person complaining against it could be a creep. One doesn't undo the other. And private businesses censor stuff all the time. There is zero wrong with that. Don't conflate government censorship with private censorship, kids.

fr0sty2324d ago

The fact that you have to use the word "most" when referring to games not featuring naked underage kids means you are choosing the wrong hill to die on here.

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Mr_Commander2325d ago

this is bad :/ i hope so, that there will be a riot.

TheColbertinator2325d ago

Truly shameful of Sony. They truly have lost their minds and gaming suffers.

pietro12122325d ago

What's actually suffering here gaming or neckbeards pleasures?

ShockUltraslash2325d ago

But school shooters and serial killers get to do what they want?

travestyj2325d ago

Are you saying people get away with being serial killers? Are you saying it's okay for child porn to exist in games because there is violence in games? What messed up logic.

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King_Noctis2325d ago

@travestyj

Child porn? Smh. You are the only one who has messed up logic. Trying to defend Sony even if censorship is wrong.

CaitSith2324d ago

@travestyj Who here is advocating for child porn, you fucking idiot?!
No, people don't like censorship due to principle. If they censor this, what makes you think they won't censor anything else they deem 'offensive'? They'll keep censoring until there's nothing left to censor. It's a bad precedent.

kreate2324d ago

I'm suffering .. I want to see that cleavage.

Don't tell me to go see porn, I just want the cleavage on video games.

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pietro12122325d ago

ShockUltraslash

Damn bruh talk about a false equivalence here.
What does one have to do with another? Also, there are laws in place serial killers and school shooters. Same goes for pedophilia

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rainslacker2325d ago

"Same goes for pedophilia"

Yeah...same goes for that. Since there are laws about it, and these games are not considered pedophilia under the law, then why is Sony censoring them? because a group of vocal people decided to say it was? Because they wanted to use games like criminal Girls Invite as the poster child for how messed up male gamers were about 6 years ago?

This policy isn't about protecting people from child porn. It's also not about protecting real children from being exposed to this content. It's about Sony bowing down to a group of vocal lobbyist who want this kind of stuff to end, because they feel that it is not politically correct. But this stuff is only going to affect Japanese games, because Sony would never say no to a western dev who decides to put something sexual or provocative in their game....including their own devs.

The false equivalency here is that this is child porn. It most definitely isn't. I thought we had gotten past the days where anime was all hentai or tentacle porn. That was something I saw in the 80's and early 90's. I thought since anime went mainstream, that this perception that it's kiddie porn had been killed. It's nice to see that some gamers, who I always thought to be rather up to date on knowing about pop culture or what's what in terms of media, are just as ignorant and the people who try to cast shame on our community because of content like this.

The people that say this is child porn, or use that as their argument as to why the censorship is OK, I know can't form a real argument on why anything should be censored. It's a cop out, and weak argument, especially when most of the games affected don't include underage representations.

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travestyj2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

Good they look like little girls. They should stop sexualizing underage girls and they wont have a problem.

And no saying they are 6000 year old robots or goddesses or whatever you want to call them doesnt make it ok.

ShockUltraslash2325d ago

They should stop depicting mass genocide and murder in their games.

travestyj2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

Sure you can argue about what is and is not too violent. I'm sure there are varying opinions. But the fact is you should never sexualize children. It shouldn't be up for debate, it is always wrong and messed up. If you enjoy the sexualizing of children there is something seriously wrong with you.

pietro12122325d ago

But you're odd lolita fetish is off limits? There's a difference in sexuality and just blatantly sexualizing underage girls.

beulahland2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

Yeah, we already now you are a nun and despises naked people, it's all you do here.
Uuuuuh! Sooooo horrible!

travestyj2325d ago (Edited 2325d ago )

I dont care about about naked people, it's the depiction of naked underage girls that I have an issue with and so should everyone else. Its disturbing when people sexualize children and I have no issue when companies dont want to sell media that do so.

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wonderfulmonkeyman2324d ago

God, just stop.
Real little girls and drawings are two entirely different things; liking an animated drawing of a young fantasy character doesn't make you anymore of a pedophilic criminal than liking horror movie villains makes you a psychotic killer.

You need to learn how to separate fantasy from reality.

It's fine if this doesn't suit your tastes, but demonizing others as pedophiles for this kind of stuff makes you the one in the wrong.

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ChiefofLoliPolice2324d ago (Edited 2324d ago )

Worry about yourself. You dont speak for the fans of games like this.

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XiNatsuDragnel2613d ago

Btw on the tag , the trailer mentioned only PS not anyother consoles just nitpicking