Paladins Crossplay Enabled on Every Platform Except the PS4

Put this in the "disappointed, but not surprised" catergory. Paladin's newest update enabled cross-platform play, but Paladins crossplay has been enabled on every system but the PS4.

[slavish0]

What's new? Sony hasn't done anything fortnight beta was a ruse😥

[gangsta_red]

The beta line was a joke. Sony allowed Fortnite because that game is pulling major scratch a week and is way too big to be ignored.

Fortnite is so big that major news outlets reported on it specifically because of that game. Sony had to give in or just risk more exposure from the press from that game.

Reading the "crossplay in beta" line was even funnier than the "for the children" line they originally stated for crossplay.

[NarutoFox]

I have to agree with you. I wonder will they allow crossplay next generation

[gamer7804]

Sony is not supporting crossplay still in general, they will evaluate on a case by case basis and give approval is what they said I believe, right now its just for fortnite which is in beta I think. A Shame.

[Mr_Writer85]

"they will evaluate on a case by case basis and give approval is what they said I believe"

You believe correctly.

"The beta line was a joke"

And why is that? Sony are the market leaders and will want to protect that, whilst I'm a supporter of cross play I understand Sony is a business and will look after number one.

[rainslacker]

As of right now, it's still officially in beta according to their compliance standards listings. Early registrations to enable the feature are allowed to be filed now, however, there is no case by case basis examination, and the API currently is there to be implemented, but it can't be released yet. Games can ship with the API implementation on the build, to meet what is likely the future compliance of the feature, but it has to be disabled by default. It's possible if any changes are made, then anything that is added to a game for compliance testing would need updating when the API is finalized and released.

Facts suck for those above you who think nothing is happening there. But devs aren't really allowed to talk about those kinds of things, which is why no devs are actually talking about it now, and Sony isn't known to talk about stuff in Beta to any great degree.

but people are silly for thinking Sony would go through all the effort of doing a beta, and making an API, as well as putting in place compliance standards, which actually require them working with the other console makers...in case they forgot....just for one game, and even more naieve to think they'd go through all this trouble if they had no intention of opening it up later. There was no reason for them to do that at all, since they were still making scratch...as Gangsta put it....on the game.

Anyhow, Sony tends to be pragmatic about most things, but I do think the beta test phase has been going on longer than it needs to. Maybe there was some hang up in the process. I know they've issued several updates to the standards and the API since starting the beta though.

[Purrfection]

rainslacker, as much as you try and sound like an inside man nothing you say grants them the flexibility you try and create for them. I understand your compassion for your favorite company out there but let's be rational here. Games long before Fortnite came out already put in their request, so it's kind of convenient that game was fast-tracked to be first in beta.

This is one of my major frustrations with Shawn Layden and some of the other team members and their lack of open dialogue. It's this arrogant posturing that gets under my skin. Yes they make great games but it's all about what's best for them. That's why it's also frustrating seeing such loyalty among the community.

Mr_Writer85
"And why is that? Sony are the market leaders and will want to protect that, whilst I'm a supporter of cross play I understand Sony is a business and will look after number one."

I also call BS on this. A game like Rocket League is far from a hardware seller. In fact it's already on everything and no matter how big the PSN community is the game is also popular on the other systems plus the PC. That leverage is gone, long gone. This is just another example of Sony hoping the issue goes away until the new systems come out. They dangled a carrot because of how big Fortnite is and it actually got TV coverage.

[Mr_Writer85]

@purr

"the other systems plus the PC"

You do know that RL has crossplay with PC on PS4?

[lxeasy]

Sony needs to get their act together on this cross play issue

[slavish0]

Of course, we already had an inkling that this would happen. Well, more than an inkling, really, as the game’s developers flat-out said Sony “is not too keen” on cross-play. 😱

[AspiringProGenji]

> Paladins

[deafdani]

Paladins is a great game. I play it all the time on PC. <3

[PhoenixUp]

They seem to have only budged with Fortnite because it was the most popular game

Doesn’t seem they’d just naturally do this with other lesser known games going forward

[gamer7804]

they aren't doing it for any games naturally, they will review on a case by case basis they said. Really just did it for fortnite to placate the masses. I was hoping fortnite would set a standard for the industry in crossplay. I hope epics new software will help push it, but It really needs to be supported by the platform holder.

[cd1]

Not true - Warthunder.

[gamer7804]

@cd1 war thunder is not full crossplay, only crossplay with individual consoles and pc, there is no ps4 to xbox crossplay

[Neonridr]

No surprise as Sony has stated they would examine each game on a case-by-case basis. So in other words, if it ain't making lots of money, Sony probably won't care to make changes.

[brich233]

If I recall correctly, one time Sony enabled Cross Play and shortly after PSN got hacked and was down for a while. Portal 2 was the Crossplay game with steam, I think they are just being careful.

[SierraGuy]

I don't blame them.

[ocelot07]

That was noting to do with Portal 2 or crossplay lol.

[monkey602]

Sony do really need to step it up in this regard. It's clearly the next step in the medium and they'll suffer the wrath of the public if they don't play this right

[thatguyhayat]

Yeaaaah i dont think so. As sony gamer i dont care for crossplay cause theres barely any online games that interest me. But then again how many titles has sony crossplayed with PC?

[monkey602]

As a Sony Gamer I can honestly I would like crossplay. I love unique and niche online games and they'd benefit hugely from having a larger player base.

[SierraGuy]

Right.

Suffer the wrath of the monkey?

[monkey602]

They caved under pressure when it came to fortnite. That's only going to amplify from now on. If Microsoft have thought us anything about your attitude going in to a new gen it's to not be too Arrogant

[ApocalypseShadow]

We already knew this was the case almost 6 months ago.
https://www.gamerevolution....

Sony knows it's Microsoft's way of trying to lock down their player base so that they don't run to PS4, PC or Switch because of exclusives. If you don't have buy a PS4 or Switch to play with your friends, that a win for Microsoft. That's why they brought it up.

It's a tactic to slow your competitor's sales while holding on to your own base. What's the status on Fortnite F2P that's behind the xbl paywall? I haven't seen any results on that.

[gangsta_red]

Absolutely everything you said makes 100% no sense.

"Sony knows it's Microsoft's way..."

?????

Except Paladins and the majority of games with this feature are third party games. How exactly is MS benefiting from this? And why isn't Nintendo benefiting as well? Why doesn't Sony just allow this with Switch since Nintendo isn't included in your conspiracy theory?

"It's a tactic to slow your competitor's sales while holding on to your own base."

How? This makes no sense at all, especially when not even a large percentage of games even utilizes crossplay across all platforms.

"What's the status on Fortnite F2P that's behind the xbl paywall?"

What's Sony's stance on charging MP for full priced games but allowing F2P MP games for free? Why doesn't Sony allow MP for free as well?

[ApocalypseShadow]

Nintendo didn't come out with the idea. Microsoft did. But sure, Nintendo does benefit from it as they need to get their online going. But Microsoft benefits more by the move. Sony don't need more players. They have plenty already as they are dominating Microsoft. But Microsoft does. It keeps gamers from running and sells xbl subscriptions. Sells Game Pass subscriptions. Sells EA subscriptions as they most likely make money off that service too.

And I know for a FACT that Microsoft will use it as a selling tool and say, and I've already said it before:

"Play all your third party,cross play games at their best on the most power console ever made."

Just like they are already promoting playing all your third party games in 4K on the most powerful platform. Don't be naive.

Your last comment makes no sense. You can thank Microsoft for pushing the console market to pay for online play. Even Nintendo has jumped in because of Microsoft's greedy lead. We didn't have pay for play until Microsoft showed up. Something you're being naive with as well. Try again.

[Christopher]

***How exactly is MS benefiting from this?***

You know this and I think you're just setting up the answer to fail on other areas, but it's the whole reason with x-play itself, which is larger playerbase. That's what MS gains as does Switch.

*** And why isn't Nintendo benefiting as well? ***

They are. I think you know why people focus so much on MS and Sony, though.

***Why doesn't Sony just allow this with Switch since Nintendo isn't included in your conspiracy theory?***

Oh, that's easy. Because the Switch is Sony's greatest competitor.

http://www.nintendolife.com...

"At our gaming business, sales of the PlayStation 4 are strong heading into the holidays. But we can't ignore the Nintendo Switch, which has also captured consumers' attention."
That's really strong words to bring up to say that something has caught attention versus saying you're not worried or you have better games to draw or keep gamers in. They flat our realize they can't say anything but that it has attention and they can't currently compete with their IPs or the like.

Sony has turned every major console manufacturer into their greatest competition. It's why next generation is going to be amazing to see. Tail-end of Switch vs Xbox w/full backwards compatibility and 4k60fps gaming and whatever Sony pulls out of their hat. I can't wait to see these companies do their darnedest to win over games by throwing things our way left and right. Well, at least MS and Sony. Nintendo just does its own thing.

[gangsta_red]

@christopher

"but it's the whole reason with x-play itself,"

You mean X-play, that isn't even out yet? Has no real world play and not proven yet? How is something like X-play going to take away PS4 players?

And how does Paladins play into that?

How does MS benefit from Paladins being crossplay with Switch and PC?

How is Microsoft locking down their own playerbase with a third party title like Paladins? Are these developers in bed with MS and Nintendo when they provide crossplay between those two consoles?

Everything said makes zero sense when trying to force some "it's all MS's doing" conspiracy.

"I think you know why people focus so much on MS and Sony"

They focus on Nintendo when it's convenient for them. And you also know this too.

This still doesn't answer or shed light on Apocalypse's OP and it's even more confusing and insane in his reply.

Every third party game that gets announced of having crossplay gets turned into some conspiracy that MS themselves are trying to take away Sony's sales or their player base.

Even though the narrative is MS will never catch Sony in sales and exclusives is what moves consoles. And yet somehow a third party game that's on all systems having crossplay is going to somehow shift PS4 users over to Xbox.

[King_Noctis]

So intead of crossplay being a convenient for gamer, it is now a marketing tool instead? I thought exclusives sell console, not crossplay?

Its bad enough that the PS4 doesn’t have proper crossplay with other consoles and now we keep having people like you defending this crap every single time.

[rainslacker]

Instead? Something can't be convenient for gamers, and a marketing tool at the same time?

I'd say that MS most certainly used cross play as a marketing tool to make themselves look better. If it was about the convenience, why not point out how convenient it was with the PS and PC cross play that had been around for so long? Instead, all MS did was say how they were for it, and allowed the devs to say how Sony didn't allow it. MS had no interest in promoting cross play as a convenience. They did it all for themselves. MS hasn't even released a cross play API that doesn't revolve around Windows TCP/IP standard communication through XBL. It exists, because it's available with the fortnite beta, unless you think Sony just did this all themselves, and MS are letting it slide that they aren't in the loop for how it's implemented.

[Christopher]

It's both. MS is marketing it heavily. You don't see Nintendo mentioning it, they just support it. But MS loves to inform gamers of how they can play with all their friends, just not on PS4 because Sony is against them playing with their friends.

It's a massive marketing win for MS and they've been dealing with it brilliantly and will continue to market it when they announce their next-gen console with full BC and the desire to allow players to play wherever they want and with anyone they want.

[Atom666]

Lmao. This guy...

[Christopher]

***How does MS benefit from Paladins being crossplay with Switch and PC? ***

More players. That's all it is for anyone. You know this. Why are you asking? Paladins doesn't have that many gamers overall as it is, exacerbated by having even fewer people online during non-peak hours. The gain for MS is players who play there will find more gamers and will be less inclined to play elsewhere because of it.

I'm confused by the question.

[ARESWARLORD]

I have to say I'm losing respect for Sony more and more the longer this generation drags on.

This coming from a guy who bought a 500 million Edition PS4 Pro

[Silly gameAr]

Oh, dear, what will sony ever do without your respect? The one's in here barking loudest may own PS4's, but they aren't PS4 gamers. They play on other consoles mostly, so I don't know why they're so triggered.

Oh, what a minute. Yeah I do. Time to make a mountain out of a molehill again.

[Razzer]

How can you lose something you never had?

[capjacksparrow]

Yeah, okay.

[timotim]

They have to get their act together or this will bite them in the ass going forward. They are top dogs right now, and they are trying to use that as some sort of thing they hold over their competition...but they may not always be in that position. Best to get in line now...

[Razzer]

"They have to get their act together or this will bite them in the ass going forward."

I've read that line for a couple of years now.

[timotim]

And we are still in the same situation, so the fact that you've been hearing this for years doesn't surprise me...the situation wont be different until it is...

[Razzer]

The situation is.....there is no situation. You tell me. Where has crossplay mattered? For Xbox, which supports it less than PS4? Switch? Even less? When does this entire conversation enter the realm of the relevant?

[timotim]

Well...the fact that all these games are coming online to work across all platforms but Sony's means their is a situation...

[Rachel_Alucard]

I had money invested in the PS4 version of smite in the hundreds, I can transfer everything I've purchased on PS4 back to the PC version if they ever allow crossplay. I could do this with Fortnite and Paragon with no issue. I don't like having my purchases tied to a single platform because this essentially mentally locks you to the platform since you've invested money into it, which is how Sony plays the game. I don't like being locked to a closed platform and would prefer to keep things 1:1 between dev and player. Having the ability to keep all my console purchases back to PC would be a god send.

[capjacksparrow]

Technically Sony has been allowing cross platform play with PC for quite some time now. Hell, I played FFXIV for a full year a while back. Played with both PC and PS players. There are plenty of other examples, probably more than the other publishers have going on at the moment.

[S2Killinit]

Nobody cares

[Kiwi66]

Is anyone really surprised anymore

[capjacksparrow]

Sony isn't supporting cross platform play on every single title yet? Guess I'll go back to playing all the amazing single player experiences they've created. Darn.

[PoopsMcGee]

Then PS4 is the place to play this game that no one has heard of lol. Unless player count is at ridiculously low levels cross play has no use for me. All it has done for me is ruin Rocket League...

Bring on the hate but cross play sucks. Yeah, I said it...

[King_Noctis]

Why does crossplay suck?

[cd1]

I wouldn't say it sucks but it does add far more potential for cheating, aimbot has put many PS4 gamers off tanks mode in Warthunder.

[chrisoadamson]

Hopefully when sony are playing second fiddle next gen they won't be such dicks

[HeisenbergX]

Bringing this back aren't we ? great

[Mr_Luke]

The bad clone of Overwatch? Ok.

[deafdani]

Have you even played it? Trust me, Paladins is a great game. It's just as much a copy of Overwatch as Battlefield is a copy of Call of Duty. It's the same genre of gaming, but the feel and mechanics in both games are wildly different.

[akbennyewu]

It's good to be king. Sony winds up not leading next gen and you can be sure this feature will suddenly become standard.
I do not blame them one bit.

[ChasingTheSun]

Xboxone still hiding free to play games behind the live gold paywall.

[DrumBeat]

Sony: For our bottom line. (not the players)