EA Appears to Mock Battlefield V ‘Genderfield’ Community Complaints Through the Game’s Launch Party

An image from the game’s launch event in Sweden has surfaced on Reddit which shows various negative quotes from the community about the inclusion of female characters in the game, and it appears that EA is trying to use the negativity around Battlefield V as a marketing tool.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Well #ScrewEA

[Gardenia]

We as gamers have to let the developers and publishers know we don't take that bs trend of SJW, LGBT and feminism forced into games. I don't have a problem playing Lara in Tomb Raider because that's how it should be. But a WW2 game were there are just as much women and black man as white, does not make sense. And that has nothing to do with discrimination or racism.

[CDbiggen]

Tfw when you play and enjoy a ton of games as actual strong, not forced, female protagonists and still get labeled a misogynist incel when you merely suggest this may be pandering.

[UncertainCategory]

But it’s a WW2 game that set out to tell lesser known ‘War stories.’ Women and black men did fight in WW2, not as much, but it verifiably happened. With that in mind it does make sense..

What’s the problem with having one of the four War Stories with a female protagonist?

Or are you upset that they put a character creator in the online mode and let people choose their gender and race?

[pinkcrocodile75]

Totally agree with the Feminism and SJW argument from both the left and right sides of politics. That includes religion.

As with comedy, there is nothing that you cannot make fun of and that includes, anyone who believes in things that are not real (religion / schizophrenics), feminists, SJW of both the left and right of politics.

However I have a BIG problem with the women in WWII fighting on the front line. If this is the new norm, we should make a movie about the suffragettes staring Samuel L Jackson.

Lynda McCartney will be spinning in her hemp-weave death basket.

[CyberRekkr]

I agree!, I like accuracy in historical games.

[Aither]

ProLogY, the Battlefield V game didn't tell about the women who were in the Russian sniper squad, nor the French Resistance fighters. What it did was literally rewrite history regarding a squad of Norwegian commandos replacing it instead with a story about a girl and her mother. So, if you had said that BFV takes historical events that actually happened and molested them to fit a SJW BS narrative, you would've been more accurate.

[BadElf]

Exactly.

ANd whats wrong with having a sexual, cleavage showing, badass woman...all in one?

[frostypants]

I personally don't care. It's not like BFV is remotely historically accurate otherwise. It has real gameplay issues which are the actual problem.

[salmonade]

Aloy is a female fighting warrior battling robotic dinosaurs and no one cared that she was female because it didn't matter. Female, or male, the story made sense. As you said, you can't FORCE diversity in games, it has to come across naturally and it has to make sense. I don't give a crap that Ellie from the Last Of Us is a Lesbian because it was her character all along from the first game. But when companies like EA try to make a female be a battle-hardened American soldier or whatever fighting in historic WW2, thats just cheesy bullcrap. I hate EA, they just have no clue about anything. They're all boardrooms and management. Creative control is stifled or influenced by suits, and it's so bloody obvious.

[kreate]

If the women were hotter or showed some boobs, I would totally play it.

[81BX]

Oh stop your crying. You kids are out of control.

[Eonjay]

Battlefield is not historically accurate from the jump. It is fantasy. People claiming historical inaccuracy don't like to admit that. If you are upset about inclusion, you are going to have to admit that even if we excluded everyone, the game still wouldn't be historically accurate.

[Amphille]

You absolute muppet. Its not ment to be used in history lessons. Did you cry a lot when the Hellriegel gun was in Battlefield 1. That gun never saw the frontline either.

[Cyfyxtfg]

i would mock them too, gamers are so entitled its crazy. i understand your community supports you and your game but its their art to portray however they feel. whats the issue with my daughter being able to play as a woman in battlefield. if you care about accuracy, go play a ww2 sim game. not a mass appeal EA shooter. people always take things too far. EA is usualy wrong but not about this.

[jmac53]

Totally agree. I'm just glad the toxic little simpletons aren't playing the game because they probably wouldn't even be playing the objective anyways.

[pinkcrocodile75]

@jmac53 Toxic? What on earth are you on about? Are you assuming all males who play Battlefield V are HIV+?

That's despicable if that's the case. If however you are suggesting that being a man is toxic, then I will insist you provide evidence and by evidence I mean actual provable facts and not things like

"My best friends, ski instructors, down-syndrome mechanics, favourite bookshop manager (whose a woman) was r@ped by a man in VR so therefore we live in a r@pe culture"

I'd love to know!

[KillZallthebeast]

You're right we only buy their games for 60$ so we should let them jerk us around

[2pacalypsenow]

@jmac53

I think it’s the other way around because no one plays the objective or does their job. Everyone plays like it’s tdm.

[kreate]

Yup. Developers should totally cram their social/political views in their games and portray it as art.

Gamers are so entitled it's crazy!

They told gamers either accept it, or don't buy it! So gamers didn't buy.

Gamers didn't get to enjoy the type of game they were hoping for, and the developers didn't make money.

I guess it works out?

[81BX]

No! This game is 100% accurate. From respawns to everyone being a killing machine. We don't need no stinking girls /s

[SharnOfTheDEAD]

When you think your fiction is somehow more interesting than historic fact you deserve egg on your face. The Telemark mission is a fucking insult to the Norwegian and British Soldiers that fought and died there. Portraying the Special Boat Service is dishonourable criminals is crazy...

Launching your game and holding back content to then pretend it's a free dlc for your loyal gamers is idiotic. Developing a WW2 game and not feature any of the major iconic battles or weapons is insane. Releasing 2 maps in 5 months is poor, even a practice range wasn't ready for launch. The Premium pass actually offered more value and content. Making Bombers so powerful that can take out your tanks right at the start of the game, genius. Making the Medic Class useless, iconic.

This game is poor. It should have been better, having a woman on the front cover is a far cry from the actual issues this joke of a game has. People can go ahead and defend it all they want, but why settle for mediocrity?

[Aither]

N4GSINCEBEGINNING, it's called rewriting history. Ever heard of that?

Surely someone as educated and woke as you should've known about a certain group who once rewrote history to claim themselves to be a master race. You may have heard of them, they were called Nazis.

[Activemessiah]

That grave they keep digging for themselves is getting deeper...

[sander9702]

They actually didn't learn a thing, Jesus Christ they are deep into their bubble world...

[SierraGuy]

They're so stupid I'll never buy anything EA anymore.

Talk about adding fuel to the fire.

[Goldenhawk521]

5 EA executives downvoted your comment

[SierraGuy]

Yeah...yeah it is lol.

[Majinzo]

I stopped back in 2011 after what they did to fifa. They are greedy and evil!

[TekoIie]

It's not quite that bad. It's more like they're trying to smother their own child after they hear it saying a naughty word. Battlefield will die if they keep this up and in case they havent noticed EA tends to be very trigger happy when it comes to shutting down studios when they begin to have sales problems.

If they lose their biggest franchise what does DICE have left? Battlefront maybe? But if that struggles like the last then what? Bye bye DICE. And no one will care because they've had this self righteous attitude. If DICE wants to pretend they're fighting this sort of non existent battle then let them. No one will be there when they really need help.

[bluefox755]

Yeah, attack your customers. Worked out great last time, eh? I haven't bought an EA product in a long time, and I intend to keep it that way.

[sampsonon]

you don't get it, they don't want you as a customer. they are ok with 10% of the community not buying the game. same for me, this way i don't have to mute you A- hoolees all the time when I'm playing

[isa_scout]

Physical sales are WAY down, a 63% overall decline to be precise. That's far more than 10%. EA is in the business of making money, they've never been at the forefront of social issues. The ONLY reason they joined in fighting social issues is to endear themselves to a wider base(the female audience). In the process they forgot about their target demographic;young men and teenagers who wanted a game about a war that was fought predominantly by young men and teenagers. No one really complained about COD WW2 when it had black female nazis because Activision didn't make a big deal about it. EA made the mistake of marketing the game as historically accurate while at the same time heavily featuring a white female amputee British soldier in its trailers, and then calling out their fanbase when we collectively said,"Wait, what?". The devs don't even really know what BF5 is.

[sampsonon]

@isa_scout: there are no official numbers released. so please stop and wait until the NPD is released. didn't need to read the rest of the garbage you typed.

"63% overall decline to be precise" show me real proof please. not just some junk article with an agenda. waiting....

[senorfartcushion]

@isa_scout

Sales are down? No shi*t, this year has been packed and every AAA game on 4k consoles are services rather than complete experiences. How many multiple-year-spanning first person shooters do you think people want to play during their day?

It has nothing to do with anti-sjw virgins, it's to do with the amount of competition.

[Aither]

SenorFartCushion, using the good 'ol AAA excuse. Sorry to burst your bubble, but this is not some unknown game being released against heavy hitters. Battlefield is a AAA franchise and your reasoning is not a good excuse for it's bad sales numbers. EA is sinking, and DICE becoming a woke subsidiary of the company is just an anchor that is helping to pull it under.

[JLynn943]

Amen. Fewer obnoxious people works for me.

[FunAndGun]

You are not a customer, so why should they care?

[Hungryalpaca]

The point is to get more customers not push potential ones away

[2pacalypsenow]

And that’s why you’re not running a company...

[SierraGuy]

If they wanted to release a game more open to females fine...but why force it to be WW2 era...just stupid.

And weird.

[Gh05t]

You say that like battlefield doesn't have a "V" after it. Like this is the first game they ever made. Not a customer... Full of crap I bet most of us have purchased their games.

[Smokehouse]

It’s just like Hollywood, they will make that one movie you want to see so they can fund all of their agendized garbage you don’t want to see.

[Eonjay]

That sounds like a conspiracy. I assure you they make movies to make money for the sake of making money.

[Smokehouse]

It’s not a conspiracy. Hollywood is heavily political and heavily subsidized by the federal government.

[Eonjay]

If you haven't bought a product from them in a long time, then you quite literally aren't a customer and you can't be under attack. I am saying that you aren't a victim. That's a good thing.

[annoyedgamer]

Honestly why are people only now angry with EA? They have been anti-consumer for YEARS. This is nothing new. If you are shocked by EAs behavior you have only yourself to blame. Especially the "bros" who won't stop buying Madden and FIFA, EA's bottom line.

[sampsonon]

adding women to a game in anti consumer?lol

GROW THE F up already. stop acting like entitled brats. the world owes you nothing. buy the game or not, it doesn't matter to the majority of people that just wants to sit back and play a game.

[senorfartcushion]

Virgins be virgins.

[garos82]

it was never about them adding a woman to the game you pathetic cretin.

Keep regurgitating the garbage mass media tells you.

Im glad this crap game didnt sell well, maybe companies will start learning once their bottom lines are hit

[Bobafret]

Maybe some, like myself, find it unsettling to hear a woman groan, grunt, and writhe in agony when I get shot. Not to mention the outright lies they are telling in the single player stories.

[ziggurcat]

@garos:

"it was never about them adding a woman to the game..."

it has always been about that, actually.

[annoyedgamer]

EA thanks you for believing their deflection.

[2pacalypsenow]

No one cares that they added women, it’s the facts that they made it the main selling point of a WW2 game, the cover art is an female soldier... I mean why not make a WNBA game and put a male coach in the cover?

[Imalwaysright]

2pacalypsenow

"the cover art is an female soldier"

And? Guys like you, to me sound like the whiny oversensitive sjws that get offended at everything because to them is all about feelings and the facts be damned. Portraying women in a WW2 game is historically accurate which is what people like you claim to be their banner so what's your problem with the cover art?

[Rachel_Alucard]

"Adding women is anti consumer"

You could not create a bigger strawman then that statement. No wonder EA and the media feed it to you guys as ammo so much.

[senorfartcushion]

The water has come to a boil and a large portion of consumers are now old/woke enough to understand that they're being milked.

Also: an EA Exec may as well be the President of The US/Prime Minister of The UK, now; the world has naturally grown to be anti-establishment.

[Eonjay]

Because the new wave is claiming victimhood if you are a straight white male. The legitimate stuff is basically ignored. EA is an evil company but not for what this article claims. Surely if people fight for uncensored "fake" child porn in games we can accept blacks/women everything else. What we can't accept is games being replaced with gambling and services.

[stefd75]

Sorry but why is having women on the battlefield not historical accuracy, i know for a fact that there were some women fighting on the front lines during WW2, or am i missing something ?

[william_cade]

I think it was the prosthetic and cricket bat. I suppose no woman lost an arm during the war or played cricket.

Really, it just came from people feeling like they have been forced to do shit their whole lives and EA is a great target because they are scumbags.

[Parasyte]

The thing about her prosthetic arm is, it was actually a period accurate design.

[william_cade]

@Parastyle but did they play cricket? XD

[sampsonon]

it a fact that they had prosthetic like that at that time. holy F, why are people so stupid?

[ziggurcat]

@william:

you mean the same kind of prosthetic arm like this one from the 1940's: https://c.slashgear.com/wp-... ?

[ZaWarudo]

Bandwagon and outrage culture. People forget that it's just a damn video game and still plays like any other Battlefield...

[Gaming4Life1981]

Exactly!

[senorfartcushion]

Isn't whinging about women being in an unrealistic ww2 game just people adding to that outage culture?

[isa_scout]

WRONG. Have you even played a Battlefield game before Battlefield 1? Battlefield 4 has almost nothing in common with this game. Take out all the social justice stuff and its still a bland less than average title. They had over 2 and half years to make Battlefield 4 and 1 year to make Battlefield 5. If you don't/can't see the clearly apparent lack of quality then you didn't play a lot of Battlefield before this generation.

[PapaBop]

Potentially.. but it's EA and screw EA because they sure want to screw me.

[Fishy Fingers]

Honestly I think we’re at the point that some people just need something to throw their toys around over.

Genuinely has anyone ever heard someone behave so dramatically over something so trivial in real life as many do online?

[AspiringProGenji]

Has anyone ever seen a company insulting its consumers? That alone gives consumers the right to backlash.

[monkey602]

I usually roll my eyes and laugh but I've seen some absolutely crazy stuff in the news this week in regards "Bans" and "Offensive material"

In terms of Battlefield I haven't played the campaign stories so I don't know what they're like but I really can't see a problem with women and other minorities being usable in an online game, be it accurate or not. Some people just want to play as somone they can relate to

[rainslacker]

"Genuinely has anyone ever heard someone behave so dramatically over something so trivial in real life"

Yes. But when I was younger I worked in retail, and managed a pizza place. Forget to put pepperoni on a pizza and people act like you killed their cat, because little Timmy has soccer practice and they don't have time to wait for a replacement....so, how will little Timmy eat.....and offering a free pizza next time and a refund is not enough, you have to come out and resuscitate their cat, paint their house, and marry their daughter to make her a respectable woman out of her, to make it right. Although, they'll still call corporate and complain there too.

The attitudes of expressing what you want vehemently isn't new. But in real life its spread out over a large number of people, so you don't see it as often. Online though, people come to vent, and in this case, let a company know they don't like its product. So, its all concentrated in one place. But as consumers, are we not right to express what it is we don't like about a product, and say that we are not happy and won't buy it, and it may affect future purchases?

[JLynn943]

If people don't have something to whine about, they aren't happy. Of course it's trivial, but you'd think some of them have had heart attacks over character skins.

[elazz]

Well then have it accurate in ratio or in the right Frontline. This game is just disrespectful to the people that fought during the second world War because they stated a year before release that rhey were going for the most realistic Battlefield game yet.

But they have complete disregard of the factions during the war. There were 10000s of soviet women fighting but nothing in the game about that. There were barely or I believe none fighting at the fron in Rotterdam yet we see many British females. That's incorrect beside the fact that there was also Dutch resistance and other factions involved. Also Dutch people barely spoke English at the time so don't release a trailer where they do. Also Rotterdam looked like a playhouse full of color which was not the case. It was grey, black, destroyed etc. Then there is the whole bionic equipment fiasco. Its communication that EA did wrong and then they blamed the fans, some who bought every iteration since 1942. Don't alter history or push an agenda and if you do, well, be honest and don't brand it as the most realistic Battlefield experience.

If the game was about a fake world War 2 and character creations then don't built expectations to the core group but also expect for sales to drop and some backlash. They should have given it another name or a subtitle.

I'll be frank although inclusion is what they try to achieve I find the game disrespectful towards the truth of that Era of mankind. It's disrespectful to women, men, countries, flags.

Technically it's a good game but their message was all over the place. I won't buy this. If you want to have inclusion in a game look at Horizon. Nothing shoehorned yet by playing you probably come accros every ethnicity in the world although they have grouped themselevs completely different in the future past. And aloy is an amazing character.

[sampsonon]

they never said BF WAS A SIMULATOR. stfu already and take that energy and put it to good use somewhere where it can actually help someone in the real world. it's just a F-ing game.

[FunAndGun]

Relax, it's not a war sim buddy. disrespectful?...really? My eye roll is not strong enough for your inability to distinguish a video game from real life.

[Weeblordbad]

A female German sniper is just about as disrespectful as playing and having fun in a game portraying one of the bloodiest conflicts in human history. The audacity to believe, oh NOW, NOW it's disrespectful to those who fought is so funny it's ridiculous.

Maybe some of you guys should head to a memorial, have a moment of silence, leave a wreath and perhaps research one of the names of the fallen? Oh who am I kidding!? You guys are so worked up about respect, I'm sure you do that all the time!

[Sirk7x]

I could argue, based on that logic, that it's disrespectful to have fun playing any WW2 game, because millions of people lost their lives and they'd find it insulting that you're laughing and making a game of it. I won't be buying the game, because 1 sucked and I'd rather not give EA money, but people not buying SOLEY for the female character thing need to find better things to focus their thoughts on. It's pretty ridiculous. If historical accuracy is important to them, they should stay away from Battlefield in general.
Also, more women are gaming nowadays, and they tend to like playing as female characters, so expect more of it.

[AspiringProGenji]

Their poor choice of words and excuses did more harm than the fact BFV is having women in the game, and proved people were right about them shoving “diversity” into this game

Goes to show once more than consumers are right to hate and expose stupid delicions while the media and the pro Corporate morons insult them and defend companies

[rainslacker]

I've stated elsewhere, and I'm really starting to believe that its how these companies handle the community that is their real problem. While I don't like when companies remain silent to issues, they don't even try to PR it up anymore to ease the tension. Instead of addressing the issue, it seems more like they're letting people handle the PR who seem to get frustrated, and make comments before they've had time to think about it. Usually on Twitter, or sometimes Reddit.

You don't attack your customers know matter how annoying they are. Call out an individual if you feel it prudent, but make sure its framed in a way that is specific to that individual. This mentality of attacking the customer since all this SJW came up is hurting companies. Adding in agenda driven nonsense isn't as bad for them, because people tend to just let it go once they vent...especially in the bigger picture. But people will focus in and attack back once you put them on the defensive by implying they're racist, sexist, unreasonable, or whatever.

I mentioned in another article that Activision does a lot of this crap as well...although usually not as politically agenda driven, and even Ubisoft on occassion(although they're better at keeping context within the scope of the game), and while they get some talk about it, people forget about it because if they address it, they don't make it personal, or insulting....although Activision has had a moment or two over the years.

[FunAndGun]

nope, just male insecurities running amok.

[Bobafret]

You mean not being a little beta with daddy issues? Then that's me.

[Inzo]

Lol, you and your penis envy.

[senorfartcushion]

Plus, people seem to be talking about the MP i.e. the part that isn't historically accurate.

Just look at the amount of automatic rifles/ machine guns in BF1 lol

[one2thr]

And none of the characters died nor lived long enough to get gangrene from a severe case of trench foot, shame on EA.

[garos82]

you are missing a few loose screws.

The game is such far cry from historical accuracy it is not even a joke. That wouldnt be a problem at all had they not declared they are trying to be accurate

[Inzo]

You are missing something. It is a fact that British women werent allowed on the front line. It is also a fact that little girl twho blew up a German boat were in fact actually done by men who gave their lives to finish their mission. EA and Dice are evil.

[Chaos-Dad]

No there was no Woman in the German / American / France or UK Army... just watch History Channel

[Imalwaysright]

The disagrees that you got say everything about this whole "controversy". Very much like the sjws that I despise, the people that are on a crusade against DICE and their game don't care about FACTS. As you said women fought in WW2 and I'll add: died, were injured, tortured and after the war was over some of them had to live with the emotional scars and demons that an event like that can cause in a human being. I don't like EA but kudos to them for sticking to their guns and celebrating the men and women that gave everything they got to give all of us a better future.

[tigertron]

Britain never used women on the front lines, especially ones with bionic arms.

[aaronaton]

''There were a ton of women who both fought in World War 2''
Haha literally a ton.

[Parasyte]

Good. That faux outrage deserves to be mocked!

[Inzo]

And yet we are the ones laughing at BF5's sales.

[Nodoze]

Let's see how well this works for them.

[sampsonon]

it's working fine. they have great reviews and are making a ton of cash.

[elazz]

Selling half compared to Battlefield 1 is still a ton cash but you don't release products for it to do worse.

[Hungryalpaca]

Losing a giant chunk of players is a good thing now?

[zombiewombie]

Which those reviews are questionable when a lot of standard fps features are missing. Theres a chunk of sp missing, and a while game mode they hyped up isnt there until next year aswell. The game screams of rushed and incomplete.

[kevnb]

when you go so far left you end up on the right...

[Razzer]

No....you are still far left.

[kevnb]

you dont get it, read animal farm to have an easy explanation.

[Razzer]

It is the horseshoe theory and even if I thought it was valid then I would say it is still a horseshoe and not a circle. Either way, doesn't apply to the topic.

[kevnb]

its not a theory, we have seen it over and over. Sweden is well on their way to going too far left, how much longer before they start using violence to make everyone think like them? Mind you if you live in what we consider the "west" we arent even taught about Stalin era Russia or Mao era China, probably because most of the professors are pretty much Marxists now.

[Razzer]

Not going to argue with you, friend. I think we agree more than we disagree.

[FPS_D3TH]

Good! The games pretty great despite its menu bugs. I’m 100% convinced the haters would buy a total shit game as long as it signaled to them in the right way.

[sampsonon]

the amount of cry baby meatheads that are complaining is minuscule. let them cry themselves to sleep.
keep on gaming. the game is awesome

[kevnb]

ya its selling much worse than last years game, must just be a few people complaining.

[Inzo]

Down 63% in sales from BF1 and a 50% price cut a week after launch. Yip these meatheads certainly seem minuscule... But hey, you keep going to your happy place ok.

[stupidusername]

I don’t like EA, I don’t buy their games BUT I can agree that the whole «feminism is ruining everything» comments are totaly laughable. It’s a game and why you would go to battlefield for your history lessons is beyond me. Woman might be forced in the game (yes) but I don’t see how it in any way ruins the game.

[kevnb]

actually the game is pretty horrible, feels like its not ready to be released.

[FPS_D3TH]

Lol horrible? Fallout 76 is horrible. A few menu bugs and an unbalanced lmg is horrible? You must own maybe 4 games if this games horrible by any comparison

[rainslacker]

They'd more likely buy a game that didn't try to signal one way or the other. People have been saying for some time now they want these agenda politics to be left out of games.

While I'm OK with some political based stories or themes in games, the rather shallow nature of how it's being done in today's gaming climate is not only transparently obvious, its completely meaningless and does nothing to serve the agenda that is trying to be pushed.

People made a fuss about TLOU2's lesbian kiss, but I actually feel that ND has the ability to push an agenda based narrative in a positive way, which is why I'm not currently upset about it. They handled it well in TLOU1 with Bill, and in Left Behind, and made it seem real. The trailer felt forced, but it lacked the overall context of the full game, and for TLOU2, it's going to be a narrative driven game, where it has time to build that context into something meaningful....even if not relevant to the overall story that may exist.

BFV just seemed silly all around for more than just a female character. It may be a fine game, and realistically, I don't think the SP in the games is really the defining factor of those games. But what is there should at least try to deliver what they said they wanted to deliver, which was something more realistic.

@Sampson

So minuscule that the game sold much less than what prior entries did? The vocal outcry for the game may be a small percentage of the overall sales, but the number of people defending the game is even more minuscule.

[sampsonon]

here come the crying white dudes that think they are history.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

Here comes the ridiculous comments like yours that immediately make it about race when the entire issue is gender based.

[sampsonon]

i find they are cut from the same cloth.

[Eonjay]

Even sadder. Get laid, BF5 isn't real it's a game. No one is out to get you. Stop forcing yourself into being a victim. It's in your head. Women aren't evil. You would be appalled by a real take on WW2. Cheers.

[kevnb]

ya you are right, there was definitely white women with bionic arms on the front line. DICE could have said its not historically accurate and we thought it would be fun, instead they just said screw you and how dare you want a historically accurate game! Not everything has to be political to this level, its insanity.

[Hungryalpaca]

My problem is the graphics make the game look like it’s supposed to be serious.

Then you have Asian ladies in trenchcoats with MP40s that have reflex sights jumping out of planes for the .......British team.

WAT.

Might as well have Japan Storm the beaches of Normandy.

[Skankinruby]

Just sit back and be amused I suppose. There's no cure for stupidity so might as well get a few chuckles out of it. The people hating this game have raised the 'idiot' bar higher than I ever thought was possible.

[Eonjay]

This. They are literally trying to find the buggie man implanted into their subconscious by people who already knew they were to stupid to see it. With each passing day I see how easy they are to exploit and question why I'm not cashing in.

[Kabaneri]

Total PR blunder and its a shame because I picked it up on that $30 sale and honestly the game is not bad its a lot better than Battlefield 1.

[The 10th Rider]

Yeah, the review trailer looked awful and the tone was off, but the gameplay looks pretty solid. I was still interested in picking it up, but EA/DICE's attitude about the whole thing has really turned me off from the game. I looked at picking it up during he sale last week but with Smash Bros this week I deciding I can wait. It'll probably be down to $20 early next year.

[Smokehouse]

I call it sniperfield.

[Cussing]

I stopped playing battlefield because It doesn't play like the Battlefield I like, BF4 wasn't perfect, but imo it was the last battlefield that allowed for truly free game play.

Don't get me wrong, BF1 and BFV look great, But they both felt like a departure from the gameplay formula that made BF so great to begin with.

If they would make Bad company 3 I would be ecstatic, but if it plays like these 2 games, I would have to give it a hard pass.

Maybe someone who knows what I mean can articulate it better than I can.

[MJ23007]

Genderfield 5 and Dices attempts to mock its community for using the game as a political statement and revisionist history sucks. Ive been a BF players since the early days of PC and even this rubs me the wrong way. Its just like Hollywood and the liberal agenda. Don't want it in my video games so I guess BF 1 will mark my last Dice/EA purchase. They truly do not care what I think, so ill spend my money elsewhere.

[Skankinruby]

Lmao 'liberal agenda' gtfoh

[isa_scout]

Wow, they are so salty. Actually, it really shows that the decreased sales are hurting them. Its like when a friend knocks your wind out while wrestling and you say your fine, but really your crying inside.

[rainslacker]

EA has always been kind of at the forefront of representation in gaming. Even within their hiring practices, they tend to be much more progressive on being equal opportunity than other publishers out there. They've even won awards for it.

On that front, I actually do respect them.

But, they also seem to be pushing it further than it needs to go for no reason that makes sense. Inclusion of representation has never really caused sales to rise. Female characters in games in the past have never increased sales of a game...at least not to females. In fact, up until about the middle of last gen, male characters were considered better sellers because the primary target market of these games was male players. There was a belief that male players were more interested in playing a male character. When it was accepted that male characters weren't necessary, they instead tried to see if more females would buy because it had a female character that would appeal to them. But often times, those female characters are pretty bland. The new Lara Croft for instance. Uninteresting, fairly plain in appearance, and not even a strong female character to respect.

A female character has no discernible difference on if a person plays a game or not. So, once all this inclusion stuff started rolling around with Sarkeesian leading the charge, and SJW political nonsense became a hot button topic, EA decided to show how progressive it was in ways which just took it to the extreme far to quickly. It became more about political agendas, than natural change to a changing market. The problem is, the market itself didn't change as quickly. Same way that MS DRM policies didn't go over well, and the same reason that publishers are fighting to get digital adopted. They want things to change now, while the consumer may just change little by little, or not at all. When CliffyB got everyone made saying digital was coming, and we should just be ready for that, he wasn't wrong. But these publishers are trying to do this stuff now in ways that aren't beneficial to the consumer, which is what's causing problems.

[Yi-Long]

Good. Those cry-babies deserve to be mocked. The Battlefield community is better off without them.

[Hungryalpaca]

Less people is a good thing now?

You fanboys are ridiculous.

[jordan22290ps]

Doesn't break the immersion for me when I'm playing if I see/ hear a female so idc. And the reason sales are down is bc I'm sure ppl are waiting for bugs to get worked out and more content to arrive.

[CDbiggen]

Gutta admire their ability to not give a shit lol. They've got that fuck you money.
"Get woke, go broke" is unfortunately a sad meme.

[rainslacker]

Yeah, I'm sure their investors are really admiring how two of their bigger sellers have under performed expectations by wide margins.

If there is a silver lining to all this, these investors are going to take notice that they got much less of a return than they should have. The producer will in turn, have to accept future investors wants by telling these companies to go back to formulas that work. This whole SJW political nonsense the past half decade is a cool experiment, that is eventually going to be stalled because everyone tried to do everything too fast. MS stalled digital sales by forcing it, these political agendas are being stalled by taking things to the extreme. Just like in real life feminism, the extremes tend to pull everything back.

I suspect in another 5 years, all this SJW forced inclusion in many medias will probably die off some. Maybe not in TV and some films, but media in general. You can only take those people seriously for so long before you start demanding they actually buy the product that they say these companies need to make. Hopefully they don't alienate so much of their fan base in the mean time.

[sawoosevens]

Lol it's almost as iif they no longer care about making money.

[Chaosdreams]

Another day, same EA.

[Sircolby45]

While I don't care about women being in BF V etc. (I have been enjoying the game immensely personally.) I will say from a business standpoint EA is handling this all wrong. Right or wrong you never want to intentionally alienate your customers. It always amazes me when businesses choose to make political stands because it does nothing more than piss off half of their customer base. It doesn't matter if you are right, wrong, or indifferent. Leave the politics to the people.

[Sirk7x]

Well, at the same time, they made a creative choice, something the devs wanted to do, and they probably got tons of death threats over it. People definitely brought the political rage to them as well. Concerning the death threats, definitely happens to devs daily. I know that key CoD staff have security, as they receive threats whenever they nerf and buff weapons.

[mezati99]

lol EA is literally the industry's punching bag

[SilverDemon]

Bathesda: we're gonna be the worst gaming company of 2018,no one can outshines us this year

EA: watch and learn, noobs.....this is how the pros do it

[1nsomniac]

It’s that ridiculous an argument that’s fair play to them. If I can say it without making myself sick,... we’ll done EA... that felt horrible.

[1nsomniac]

When did all you kids all become whiny little bitches!!

... I do see the irony on the comment by the way. In both senses, that I’m whining myself & that the statement is sexist. Ohh the irony.

There’s no way kids back in my day were as pathetic as you guys. It’s embarrasing, sort yourselves out!

[GameGod26]

Don’t think they give a single shit lol

[T2X]

The game is pretty good, when it functions. Patch the game, stop whining about this other crap.

[Majin-vegeta]

First patch drops tomorrow along with The last tiger story and other content.
https://youtu.be/NPB8XFtRjO...

[Bobafret]

I am a dumbass for buying this game. I have rewarded bad behavior and it won't happen again. Totally disgusted.

[lollord]

Battlefield Vs marketing campaign has been laughably bad.

[Ninjamonkey82]

We live in a world that has gotten way to sensitive, Norms we grew up with teaching us respect and how to be a descent person. There now frowned on and called sexist. Hell even Baby its cold outside a Chrismas classic is deemed bad by the #Metoo movement today things off the past in a different era. These things are the things that are destroying the original good they set out to do with the movement. Hell there views are even being pushed on are fictional worlds places we escape and have fun. I respect my Fathers and Grandfathers time and opinions on this world. They Influenced me and my values I didn't turn out bad wouldn't cause a woman harm i show respect when its earnt thats values I was taut, i count them as good men. All i'll say is wheres the difference in book burning and this current stupidly if you can't look at the past and respect it for what it is. I know that comment above is big. But i use it cause it was used as a form off control and today we see another movement doing very much the same thing with todays culture . Pff wall off words with a ps4 controller wish sony would add a return button lol. But ey enough off a rant EA should know better Dice aswell.Deleting events off the past dosen't help we are meant to look at it and learn from it not replace it with a rosey picture thats made to suit everyone. Equality is a purpose we all strive for equally.

[Weeblordbad]

You show respect when it's earnt...earnt....earnt.

[Inzo]

I will never support EA or Dice ever not that I have in a long time but these guys can f@#$ themselves.

[PaleMoonDeath]

We hit em' where it hurts, the bank. Fuck your politics, don't play with history.

[Weeblordbad]

Are you as incensed about the copious amounts of pin point accurate V1s? It's not a history book, it's a video game.

[PaleMoonDeath]

Pulls me out a little when the shit I try to forget is being forced into my entertainment.

[BadElf]

#everyonesBF #Purplehair #hairyArmpits #feministGamer #strong ...

[InTheZoneAC]

https://youtu.be/BAlAITCBpr... just another example of how ridiculous bfv is

[Weeblordbad]

Overpowering a German soldier in that instance is about as ridiculous as getting off of Omaha Beach in 3 minutes like every other WW2 title or turning The Battle of the Bulge into a day long affair.

But you know... Now that a ladies involved, let's start producing video content.

[Soybetaboy]

I love EA and BF5 the game runs without issue and I have no complaints.

[inxine]

yea sure, mock us, the ones who buy ur games. bellend.

[qazitam67]

Much ado about nothing. BF5 is fun and that is all I care about. Who I shoot in the face matters little to me as long as they lie still for a good tea bag after the fact. Also, reviving female soldiers is much more enjoyable than male ones. If you don't want politics in your game, stop feeding the beast and putting politics into it yourself.

[Chdadiesel]

At least take the Asian british female soldiers out plz its laughable. And battlefield has gotten worse since 4 one step at a time .

[Chexs1990]

Saw an image on Reddit after the sales numbers came in:

"EA: Don't like it, don't buy it"
"Gamers: OK"

Seems pretty accurate this time around 😂

[zachyBROosevelt]

Still a fun game

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Guys, just torrent all their games. Steal everything, it's quite easy. To really piss them off email links to all their games hosted on torrent sites to their email address, care of customer service then tell them you can't do shit about this now can you? LMAO

[Brugal]

Is the female character the only lead character in the main game or do you have a choice between genders?

[Majin-vegeta]

Theres 4 stories and only one has a female lead the others are Male.

[Brugal]

I see. So anyone upset about this can just play the single player game as a male character or not purchase the game?

[Weeblordbad]

In the MP you can choose the "character" for each class on both sides. The single player is a series of vignettes, one one of them has a female character.

So you know....lets riot.

[DimensionalSound]

Totally worth mocking. Makes me want to buy the game on this alone.

[Gaming_Guru]

Who cares, lol.

[Casepb]

Explains why this game is dead on arrival.

[PCgamer98]

I'm fine with women as protag heck horizon zero dawn and nier are just two of my favorite games this gen, but it's disgusting what dice did with their historical revisionism on bfv by rewritting men out of their heroic deeds during that time in exchange of a mother/daughter superhero that are able to take down a battalion of nazis on their own without any help. That's just a huge disrespect to the soldiers who fought for us.

[Weeblordbad]

As opposed to Medal of Honour or CoD, where it was always so grounded and didn't trivialize anything. Omaha Beach? They were off the beach in 5 minutes, Battle of the bulge? That was a day long at best! The Falaise Pocket? No one even knows what that was!

[GameGod26]

Told gamers not to buy it and they followed through

[BadElf]

Can you believe these fools?

[2pacalypsenow]

Wow...

[mastershredder]

Apparently that lemon juice hit an open wound! Love it.

[AK91]

And this is why BFV is bombing.

[Mandingo2020]

If EA wants to fix the battlefield franchise they need to apologize to the gamers and make season pass free.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Dice are purposely trying to confuse the issue of simply having women in the game, versus gender politics and adding women in a game about a real conflict where women played almost no significant role on the battlefield. They know that most people are expecting a somewhat authentic WW2 experience, but then they say that the game is not meant to be authentic, which goes against the authenticity they had in every other Battlefield game before it.

If it were simply about having women in the game, then why have people not complained about women characters in other games like: Halo Reach, Halo 5, Gears 4, Gears 5, Tomb Raider series, Darksiders 3, Mass Effect series, Black Ops 3, CoD Infinite Warfare, Heavenly Sword, Socom: Combined Assault, Socom 4, Socom: Confrontation, Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3, Borderlands series, Left 4 Dead series, Rainbow Six Vegas series, PUBG ect…. ect…. I could go on and on, but I think the general population is starting to get what's been happening in the entertainment industry as a whole.

It's all fun and games Dice, until your sales and your reputation start to go down the tubes. However, I say that if they want to cater to the SJW part of society, then they can have fun with the community that comes with it. Just look at Overwatch, and how toxic that community is. Have fun Dice, it was nice knowin' ya!

[Weeblordbad]

You're aware that people definitely complained about the female protagonist for Gears 5 and Nadine from Uncharted 4?

Battlefield has never been authentic, it's an arcade shooter with the veneer of accuracy. How on earth can we be arguing about authenticity in a game where you're calling V1 Rockets as Brit? This whole thing is ridiculous.

[RoseSapphire]

I see the children are complaining about women in their video games again. That's fine, you can stay home alone forever. I'll be over here enjoying the inclusion and acceptance that women and people of other genders are now finding in their video games.

[Inzo]

Other genders? there are only two genders.

[RoseSapphire]

Adults are talking. Shoo.

[RoseSapphire]

Hey guys, I understand you've never felt the touch of a woman and that it angers you, but you're dripping stupidity on this website and I'd rather not have it on my shoes. When you're finished sulking and you're done rubbing your lonely self raw, you can get yourselves an education, learn to respect others in their own lives, and can join the rest of civilization.

[tigertron]

How many other genders are there? can you name them?

[RoseSapphire]

I've learned of at least one new one today that science hadn't previously discovered and it's amazing how many examples of it are here on this very page. It's called "whiny man baby." It exhibits a strange characteristic where when it feels threatened by people that aren't itself (which is always) it retreats to the internet to complain about how unfair things are that other people are also included in the things it wants to do.

You're an amazing specimen of that.

[tigertron]

Good to know you're unable to answer a simple question.

[JLynn943]

I could not care any less. Quit whining and get over it. Try focusing all this passion into something that's actually worthwhile.

[plmkoh]

The damage has been done on this game. EA now finds themselves selling the game to social bloggers and commentators, in otherwords no one.

I'm in absolutely two minds about EA games leadership, on the one hand they love putting in MT and lootboxes to squeeze every dollar, yet they pull moves like this to sabotage their own products ensuring it has minimum opportunities for success.

[Veneno]

With me being in the service industry I admire EA standing up to their abusive clientele in such a bold way. Keep in mind I still despise their busines practices. I have not purchased an EA product since FIFA 2005 and I have not seen anything that will change that.

Abusive clientele need to be put in their place and I know that everyone who works in service will agree with me on that.

[Chaos-Dad]

EA -> SJW Na*is... they dont care about History & Facts

[_FantasmA_]

I find it hilarious that people have been pissed off with EA for over a decade, but people still gave them their $. But put a woman in a videogame and everyone looses their minds.

[1-pwnsause-1]

this is why no one wants your S***t games ontop of your S***ty microtransactions.

its also why i have no hope for anthem. or just EA games in general, its also why i cant wait to see em go under

[Dragonscale]

Nice one ea, just keep shovelling the sjw bullcrap into your games and see how well that goes lol.

[tigertron]

Glad I didn't buy BFV, especially when half the features are "coming soon".

Not my Battlefield.

[stupidusername]

The comments they are showing are laughable, don’t go to a online mp shooter for historical accuracy.
That said, almost everything else EA does sucks. I haven’t bought any of their games for 4 years and I’ll continue that trend.

[TheGamez100]

Ugh....and tons of ppl still bought the game knowing how horrible theyve been to the community..."But its a good game." they said....ughhhhh.

[Alexmaru]

I Really do not care if there are females in games like bf.. But, this game is bad for a Lot of different reasons.. im a bf fanboy and im so sorry ea and dice is going this direction with my fav shooter... :(

[mixelon]

Funny how this sort of thing is always hot news here.

Go for it EA, make fun of them, they deserve it. Doesn’t stop EA sucking for other reasons but at least it’s making one of the biggest (vocally, not numerically) problem areas of the community uncomfortable.

There’s a pretty clear distinction between constructive criticism and groupthink whining.

You’re supposed to not relate to the guys they’re lampooning. If you see yourself in there, look in a mirror.

[Gwiz]

You might want to leave that bubble you're living in lol

[mixelon]

Right back at you. This whole site is one. Gamerzzz

[cyber_daemonx]

Someone doesn't get it lol.

[RobertNekita]

those quotes are really positive to me

[Artemidorus]

Boycott these clowns

[Ben12]

Wow. Everyone relax. It's a video game remember. This game is great absolutely gorgeous and plays fantastic. Men, women, aliens, cowboys. Who ever they put on frontline is thier decision not ours. In my opinion they have done a fantastic job with this game, I think with all this social media its destroying video games. It's a good thing social media was not big in the 80s because video games would never have made it up until now. JUST CHILL.

[CrimsonWing69]

I guess the joke’s on them. How are you liking them BFV sales, EA?