Nylongate: Did Streamers Grab Up All The Quality Fallout 76 Bags?

PC Invasion: Bethesda's got another Fallout 76 controversy brewing due to "Nylongate." This time around, it's streamers receiving actual canvas bags for free while paying customers ended up with nylon for their $200 Power Armor edition.

[RainOfTerror]

ROFL.. not really surprising that Bethesda would bribe streamers/bloggers and such with fancy trips and goodie bags.

[badz149]

can't wait for people to crucify these scam of a company in court!

[Lionsguard]

I know this is not good for Bethesda and all but come on guys. It's a BAG. It's a bag that you're going to toss in your closet and dig up a few years later full of silverfish and spiderwebs and end up storing a bunch of junk in. People are making such a huge deal out of this stupid bag, it's ridiculous. It's as if they're mad they're not getting a full size, functional power armor or something.

[-Foxtrot]

It’s not the bloody point, it’s the principle...it’s false advertising basically

If people are going to drop £200 on a collectors edition then you need quality and get given what was promised...especially the second most expensive thing which was supposed to be in the box

So stop brushing it off when people have legit points here. Don’t care? Then don’t get involved.

[Lionsguard]

Ok alright geeze. Go cry over your bag. It's probably the only thing you guys have left in your lives after such a disappointing game anyway. I get it.

[1-pwnsause-1]

I don’t think you still do sadly....

If I paid $200 for something that’s of low quality although i was promised that it was what I’m supposed to get, someone’s gonna be catching these hands...

[porkChop]

Let's say you buy a car and the dealer sells you an expensive package to upgrade the interior to leather. But when you get the car the interior is cheap vinyl, not leather. Are you just going to say "oh well", or would you be pissed off that you didn't get what you paid for?

[TheColbertinator]

Precisely. If its written down in the contract and they lied,we'll see them in court.

[william_cade]

Yeah, people should just take what they are given because people at Bethesda work so much harder than everyone else. In fact, we need to pay them some kind of tax just because they exist.

Can I sell you junk? I will tell you it's quality but you need to pay for junk. At the end of the day it's just junk ...right?

[Nitrowolf2]

While it’s understandable that this probably won’t get used as a daily use item, it’s still a matter of principle. That’s a bait and switch, False advertisement at the end of the day.

Why settle for less when you paid for more? With that mentality it’s no wonder why some people think the game isn’t broken

[rainslacker]

Yeah....because people who spend $200 on a collectors edition just throw it into a closet to never see again.

People that buy $200 collectors editions don't buy them to hide them away. They aren't going to use the bag for general bag purposes. They're going to collect it, and do whatever it is they do with collector's editions.

That said, Bethesda advertised a cheap canvas bag....not a cheap vynol bag. Unless what they gave is better than what they advertised, then it's false advertising.

Their reason for not including it was that it was too expensive. They would have known this months before they ever made the collector's edition. It's not like they didn't have time to inform the customers, retract the marketing, and do the right thing. Instead, they put in something that wasn't advertised, and hoped no one would notice.

[sinspirit]

You may think you're reacting to this like a cool adult because your point is "it doesn't matter". But, you're the epidemy of a terrible consumer. One who just takes whatever they're given so long as it distracts them long enough. Such a childish reaction. This is literally cause for them to be investigated by the FTC.

They made a quick cash-grab game with very little content, copy/pasted everything from the previous games with alterations, didn't even make NPC's, it has tons of bugs, the launch bugs were some of the downright most embarrassing ones ever to be seen by any online game, ever, made the game to be played in a group with the agenda that if you're playing it socially that you'll buy stupid cosmetic items and animations to impress your friends, their apology of 500 atoms is worth nothing in the game. The microtransactions aren't even affordable, because they know that if you're hooked on these things for all your gaming uses, that you'll spend the cash regardless. They even had the same mentality as you about how to save money on the expensive collectors edition. Oh, the bag surely won't be used, right? Lets assume our customers won't rep our game and that the bag doesn't matter because the big item is there. You know the profit margins are extremely high on these things? They could even spare a little to give an actually usable bag, like the canvas one advertised.

You must be pretty young not to be ecstatic about having an extra bag, even slightly. You can never have too many bags when you've got a job, projects, going to hang out with friends, daily rituals like going to the gym, holding random tools/gear, etcetera.

[UCForce]

It’s about false advertisement. You should think twice when you made that statement.

[Exvalos]

You completely are missing the point

[Bhuahahaha]

consumer like you are the reason why we're getting more and more substandard product

[MAULxx]

It's not the bag itself. It's what it represents. Telling your customers one thing, then doing something else & not caring enough about them to adress it in any meaningful way. For me, the point is the fact that it reveals Betheda's lack of concern for their premeire customers who spent $200 on their game. Their lack of regard for their own prime customers & the quality of their own product seems very telling & sends a terrible message to all their fans.

[Eonjay]

You would make a good addition to Bethesda... duck the consumer. Get money! Costumer complaints: stop being a crybaby and give me your damn money. We deserve to get paid because we have the ability to snatch as much as possible. We can lie directly to them... if they don't like liars: stop crying and make me rich now damnit. Doesn't even matter that the game itself is worthless and the isn't worth the 30 we charge 3 weeks later.

[InTheZoneAC]

smfh, there are people out there actually defending bethesda for their false advertisement on a product people paid $200 for, seriously gtfo

[Highlife]

This is one of the dumbest takes I've read in a long while. What if you bought a game oh forget it this comment is so bad I don't have to say anything else.

[mogwaii]

COMPLETELY missing the point. It's people like you that keep these shitty companies doing shitty things to their paying customers.

[Idree]

Whoooooosh,
No1 is complaining about the bag not being nylon.
They lied, and scammed their fans mkay?

[SirBillyBones]

Spot the shill.

[fluxmulder]

So these "influencers" who sit around all day playing games in front of a camera get the good stuff, while us common folk get the garbage. What an absolutely scummy thing to do.

[Exvalos]

Pretty much, is how it works now. Streamers get free games, merchandise, vacations etc...and paying customers get jack and shit

[giovanealex]

"So these "influencers" who sit around all day playing games in front of a camera get the good stuff, while us common folk get the garbage"

You forgot to mention the worst part: "common folks who paid for it"

[DreadGara]

Welcome to the wooo~aaarld of tomorrow.

Futurama

[porkChop]

They should have either lowered the price, or told everyone prior to shipping the game in case anyone wanted to cancel. With the way they handled it, and their admitting to it, they've opened themselves up to charges and investigation for false advertising.

[william_cade]

hahahahaah-and people really think their reviews matter. Streamers and bloggers are entertainers (some are extensions of marketing): not critics nor journalists.

Wonder if Kotaku are going to attack gamers over this one?

[Atticus_finch]

Holy sh*t that sounds pretty bad. Streamers got em for free and paying customer got something completely different and cheaper.

[PhantomS42]

Boy oh boy, another week and another really scummy and cheap thing get revealed around the launch of this game. Bethesda is in deep and with them having to intention on making or getting a new engine for TES6 which is a next gen game then I doubt they will have any support at all by then, and there is still another major game and new IP coming before that.

[rainslacker]

Guess the bags weren't too expensive to make for marketing purposes.

[Cobra951]

http://bagsinbulk.com/depar...

How much is this edition, $200? Think people wouldn't have paid $205? Not that the "cost" excuse is at all credible. If they charged $205 initially, they still would have used the plastic trash bag to maximize profit.

[rainslacker]

I could buy a canvas bag at Wal-mart for around $5-10. I could sew a patch on it for a buck. Yeah, the excuse of costs was really just stupid. Canvas is in no way a rare commodity, and while it is susceptible to changes in availability, it's been rainy enough the past couple years that it shouldn't affect the cotton crop.

Assassin's Creed collector's editions have hand painted statues which probably cost about $20-30 to manufacture sell for $129 at launch. TLOU Post Pandemic collection had a staute which probably cost them about $40-50 sell for $149, along with a limited press comic and the full game.

The plastic helmet in the FO76 collection probably cost them $5-10 to make. The other stuff can be gotten for pennies. So they were making a huge profit on this edition, as the bag they did include probably only saved them a buck at the production level. Considering there were probably at most $100,000 of these made, if that many, that's really trying to make every penny possible. Hopefully it comes back to bite them in the ass, and a lawsuit costs them a lot more. Realistically, if it said on the box it has a canvas bag, a retailer would be within their rights to take a return, and then return it to the distributor because its a faulty product, and if they brought direct from Bethesda(Amazon, GameStop, other big retailers), they'd be within their rights to return as well.

This edition could have advertised a cheaper bag to begin with, and it probably could have sold for the same price. The collector edition customers would probably be going for the helmet, more than the bag. bags suck for display purposes, and not many people walk around with cheap canvas bags this small.

[DimensionalSound]

This "influencer" culture needs to end. Stop watching these channels.

[Thundercat77]

Wow... Bethesda has entered EA territory. If we left these companies unchecked, they will destroy our gaming industry.

This is not about the bag. Is about the principle, the attitude and the intentions.

[house]

To be fair yongyea has been hitting Bethesda harder than anyone on you tube and he got a shitty bag. so for him to be bunched up with everyone else is stupid. i get people are mad, and rightfully so. but people really need to research before they start throwing rocks at the wrong direction.

[DreadGara]

Bathesda already got away with it since the game been announced.
People will buy thier shitty games no matter what quality they pulled out of their asses.
Wither it's a false advert or a straight up face to face lie, they are not to be blamed alone.

[DrumBeat]

One of my most loved developers turned into my most hated pretty much overnight.

This developer stands for everything that is shit in this industry. Broken games, microtransactions, reneging on a refund, and even false advertising on collector merchandise.

Go to hell. Hope all their future endeavors fail miserably. These guys don't deserve success.

[quenomamen]

Bethesda just had a small run of quality bags made for their game pushers and Nylon crap bags for the average consumer. Crooked basterds

[Sophisticated_Chap]

I blame 'The Doc" for all of this.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Easy to get back at Bethesda. If your a PC Gamer, all you have to do is torrent all their games. From the first to the current, + every single DLC not 76 since it's online. That's what I did :D This goes for future games as well, Elder Scrolls VI, & Starfield . I don't bitch I just take lol.

[CrimsonWing69]

What makes 0 sense to me is they have the expensive stuff free to stupid “influencers” and have paying customers a garbage product. How does that make sense? If anything give the garbage stuff out or free and give the premium to customers who pay, well, a premium.

What a weird world we live in where YouTubers and journalists get better quality products than consumers... glad to see who they prioritize the most, here.

[SuperJay182]

The most comical one is the influencer who gets arsey about people hating the game because she loves it, whilst laying on a massive fallout box from them.

(I'm not saying its impossible that she does enjoy it, but come on, left herself open to the claim she has been bought)

[DimensionalSound]

Down with the YouTubers, down with the streamers. Shame on them for the commoditization of our hobby and culture.

[Artemidorus]

I'm sorry to tell you this but it's been going on for years they started giving away copies to streamers then giving them more on the terms of agreeing a "good review".

So next time you see something wrong or strange with them telling you buy garbage it's because they have agreed to do it.

[NicSage]

Used car salesmen is all they are.