IGN: "Microsoft's planets are all aligning towards E3 2020. We explain why it will be the most important moment in the last decade of Xbox. Plus: Red Dead Online impressions, The Initiative's big new hire, and more!"
Microsoft can only ever hope to compete in North America and probably UK. Every other region they always fall behind Sony’s PlayStation brand.
It's over for the Xbox and it's been over for the past five years. Microsoft are now making certain moves to appear that they are addressing the biggest issue that has been plaguing Xbox since last generation but their games will still be multiplatform and takes years to get released. PlayStation has been doing the same thing generation after generation which is releasing amazing exclusive games and gamers can trust that when you get a PlayStation it will get a lot of amazing games. Sony has been saying that they will be making even more AAA exclusive games more so because of the success they've been having. For the past 8 or so years every e3 was supposed to be the crucial year Microsoft shows amazing games and every year it's been a let down and then people create hype saying " wait until next Microsoft e3, wait until e3" . It's been almost a decade now so aren't fanboys sick of waiting? PlayStation has amazing exclusives that can be played now with games on the way
"It's over for the Xbox and it's been over for the past five years." It was "over" for Xbox once the PS3 shipped a year later in 06 It was "over" for Xbox 5 years ago even after all that bad messaging Its always "over" for Xbox whenever a big PS game comes out or some sort of feat Sony does. So essentially you're not saying anything, anything at all. You don't actually mean what you say considering half of what you say regarding Xbox is really stupid Example 1: "Microsoft are now making certain moves to appear that they are addressing the biggest issue that has been plaguing Xbox since last generation but their games will still be multiplatform and takes years to get released." How are they "appearing" when its evident they been buying studios all year long. Remember the very thing that everybody agreed that MS needs to buy studios? The focal point of all of MS issues ever since the beginning of Xbox. I dunno how much all those studios cost but I'm sure it has to be shy of 100m total. That's not cheap for nobody even MS. So no its not "pretend", they're not "acting" this is real freakin money being thrown around here. "Appearing to address the issue" The dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
How come certain folks always say, "it's over for Microsoft"? What's hilarious is we all read the same comment(s) week after week, year after year, decade to decade and yet Xbox is still here. While fans wait for the next E3, other "fans" wait for Xbox to be done and finished. I wonder which will actually happen first?
"It's over for the Xbox and it's been over for the past five years." LOL!!! Oh yeah it's over as the company buys out 7 game studios in one year. Fanboys been praying for it to be over for 5 years. They'll keep praying for another 5 years...
If it's over for Xbox, why are they still selling consoles? So what if they're not #1. Has it been over for Pepsi? Is it over for iOS? Do you really think that because you think A is better than B that B just ceases to exist?
I own all platforms but my console of choice is Xbox. Yes there is good games on ps but I didn't like the uncharted series, the last of us is a really good game but I play mostly multiplates which play and look better on the X
The irony here is that PlayStation and Sony as a whole is much much more likely to go under than Xbox ever will, and it's actually more of a 'when" than 'if' judging by how Sony currently run things and how they struggle in most of their divisions.
Over il not a fan think they’ve been awful but if you think 30 million consoles sold plus all the yearly subscriptions over the 5 years it’s been out they got enough money they ain’t done. They just in cruise control and too complacent need to try much harder next Gen like they did 360 days. Not bothered myself tho ps4 and switch for me. Does worry that 2020 is important tho I mean who needs 2019 haha
Angelic diamond, it wasn't about buying studios in a desperate attempt to regain favor. We have all said that they should be making more games. They had studios already. They just chose to close them because they didn't care about managing any or making games. They only care about profits. They didn't buy Mojang for them to make more games. They saw profit. Spent 2 billion in them. And what other games have they made? None. That 2 billion could have been invested in making Rare better. Making Lionhead better and so on. Just because they bought companies on the brink of bankruptcy doesn't mean they get a pass because you still aren't getting more games or new IPs THIS generation. Jaguar mentioned the waiting game because you're still waiting on promises. Promise don't make games. If under delivering was an achievement, Microsoft would have the highest score. And we keep hearing excuses when they are one of the richest companies in the world. Nothing but excuses and just wait.
The only years ps had more aaa exclusive games this gen were 2017/18. Why do you think there were articles saying Sony were geniuses for delaying games leaving next to nothing on their release slate in 2014/15. Why do you think Andrew House said TO INVESTORS that their 2014/15 1st party lineup was going to be "SPARSE"? Why do you think the PS4 was called the indie station for 3 years after launch? Keep rewriting history though m8, 1 year at a time.
@gangsta_red I love how your comment rating is exactly 50/50. Pretty much proves your point perfectly. ^-^
It's over for this gen. . I can agree with that. . It's a brighter future though so it's not over for Xbox at all. Like mentioned before, ms made promises they couldn't keep. All of the defence of lack of exclusives or downplay of their worth over the gen only for '7 studios' to ignite new enthusiasm. . . . .maybe they'll be making multiplats right. . . . .lol. too many n4g members were apologists, using dumb metrics as to why the richest player produced the least. Spent way too much energy bemoaning Sony's frailties like x play and bc when they should of been using MORE energy on ms's crap output and empty promises not defending them. Sony smashed ms without all the things 'bots' claimed made a big impact. . . ....speaking of which, don't let me get started on 'impact' and sp . . Lol
@JaguarEvolved If it really is "over for Xbox" then its the Sony gamer that will lose out. Companies need competition, and if you remove Microsoft from the console space then Sony will have nobody to compete against, they will no longer try to get more customers. For proof of this look at what happened when Sony announced the PS3, they were that arrogant that they launched it at $500, and then quickly reduced the price. Same thing happened with Microsoft going from the 360 to the Xbox One.
@ XtaZ Care to explain? Sony's most profitable division is the gaming division so if Sony where to get into financial trouble they could potetially sell it for a profit. MS even though they have tons of money their gaming division isn't as profitable as Sony's that's why your comment doesn't make much sense as to which one would be more at risk of not existing in the future, their have been plenty of rumblings of MS potentially getting out of gaming in the past because the xbox brand wasn't viewed by investors as profitable as they would like it to be. So yeah I would take that bet as to which company get's out of the gaming business first.
They have the money to turn it around if they want. Should they continue purchasing more studios and start releasing numerous high quality games then they have a chance in most of the world. Japan is the biggest the biggest challenge for them, not sure what it would take to even succeed in Japan. Of course they need to actually start proving themselves first though.
This was a good points but, I wonder why did you take a lot of thumb down on your comment. I'm not surprised because it positive comments for MS.
I've said from the beginning that MS has wanted to make the xbox platform like their own Windows platform. Build a solid foundation for everyone else to come to and make products for. They had succeeded with making the 360 the 3rd party platform of choice but things did not transition well for the one. They realized (rather late) that they cant just leave it at that. Release the system and let everyone else do all the work. I commend them for finally realizing the error of their ways and i welcome the positive changes they want to make going forward. They know this gen is a wash so it should be interesting how committed they are in the next.
Remind me, since they entered the market, when Sony had a stranglehold, which companies market share has improved the most?
They should try and get through 2018 first before even thinking of 2020. It was a snoozefest with only 2 big budget exclusives this year.
I think they've already accepted the L. 2018 is done and 2019 is looking about the same. Their investments won't pay off till 2020 at least. Gears of war and Halo are my 2 favourite franchises so I'm super hyped for Gears 5, but if you don't have interest in those or Forza I can't recommend an Xbox until 2020.
Assuming their investments ever will. M$ will probably end up cancelling their games half-way through development and shut down the studios.
This won't change that fact Xbox is in 3rd place with gamers rn, all their moves are good so far, but we need to be shown what's cook for the next gen first beforehand.
3rd place? By what metric? And do please tell me, which company is investing in first party games the most?
After 17 years of Microsoft being in the console business.. A. This proves the point made. B. Why do the other two have to invest? They have ALREADY invested.. and they are out there getting massive praise for the software that is being made.
@rude so you think you invest and then stop? They have been in the game shorter than the the other 2, and have made up ground on Sony and overtook Nintendo in the west. I think that's a successful endeavour. They finished neck and neck globally with the market leader last gen FFS. Keep fighting that imaginary console fight though, maybe 1 day you'll be able to go home to reality.
Overtaken Nintendo?! How so? The Switch is breaking records and is destroying Xbox One sales. Its about to overtake Xbox sales in just 2 years and their best games aren't even out yet. Nintendo and Sony 1st party output destroys Xbox. Whats worse is Nintendo in their 2nd year is already putting out more exclusives than Xbox in year 6. Xbox has bought some studios, but, they have a lot more to prove than Sony and Nintendo since the quality and output in general for Xbox in general is pretty awful. Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2 were awful. Its year 17 and all we hear from the same group of Xbox fans is oh just wait for E3 and just wait for the games to come rolling along. Newsflash by the time actual games come out probably around 2020-2021 that will be the 20th year of Xbox. While they're just starting up Sony and Nintendo has been producing new IPs for decades.
@chevalier how would you know what games were awful? You haven't played them, and those would be subjective opinions, not facts. And please, show me where anyone says switch sales are about to overtake X1 sales. And don't give me vgchartz or some other Mickey mouse numbers. Oh yeah, you cant, because you are pulling words from your posterior. FYI, npd say the X1 has seen the most growth by far this year, and sales of the x1x alone have been, and I quote, "phenomenal".
MS just needs to get back to its roots with what made the original Xbox and 360 so great. The One X and One S are a great turnaround for this gen, will be interesting to see if they repeat the same missteps at the start of next gen. Really don't think E3 is going to make or break anything
Monopolizing third party games with marketing and timed content? Because that was the “glory days” of the 360.
Well it seems to worked well for Sony this gen. Why can't MS do it again?
@darth72 So you are trying to compare a reaction to an action that has damaged gaming? And what has changed exactly? How many third party games did Microsoft try to pinch into exclusive or year long exclusives? Tomb raider? Dead rising? A total of 2 Titanfall? Ryse? Just because they backed off or could not secure third party timed content like last gen, does not mean they are not still at it. The last two e3s were all about timed console exclusives. We can have this conversation once Microsoft’s “new” studios start providing in house games... until then.. Sony reacted and yes, it worked out very well combined with their amazing award winning ips offered from in house.
Well, since you asked. When Ms would do these timed exclusives, they did them to benefit their platform but more importantly they would not cut off the games from ever seeing the light of day on other platforms. So while you may scoff at things like tomb raider, it still came to the PS4 and improved I might add. So why did sony feel so threatened by MS that they had to basically do the same thing but this time fully cut off the other side all together? Games like SFV, KoF and the like which have always been multiplatform and thrived on pretty much all platforms suddenly being cornered into one platform (2 if you count PC). Sony has paid to keep games off other platforms even going far back to the original PS1 so it really isnt anything new but to put Ms into the same category when that simply is just not true. Sure they may get timed exclusivity but the games still eventually come out. And to be fair, a couple of the games that sony paid to keep exclusive would include the tomb raider sequels (which the first was built for Saturn and the sequel was to be multiplatform) and Resident Evil (again the first was also on Saturn and the sequel was to be as well). whenever anyone tries to paint MS as some evil in gaming because of their deals, they often forget that evil begets evil. Nintendo is guilty of it all during the 8 and 16bit years. Sega, Atari and yes your beloved Sony have all done it.
Oh darth.. always off. Tomb raider was not sonys deal. The technology and development pushed it away from said console. You can easily look this information up. And are you really asking why did Sony retaliate? In a commercial business? Really? All companies have made deals.. but all companies also provide to said market. Not only for themselves, but also other developers. But when you come into gaming, start monopolizing the market, and provide little to nothing other than self interest... well, one can start seeing the differences. Microsoft’s entire history is laden with court appearances due to dirty marketing tactics and monopolizing against competitors. This is why they were not welcomed with open arms from the gaming community. 4+ years into this gen.. and Microsoft has not made one single new AAA ip, limited third party games, and bought up second party studios. This is business, so cool... but if you think other businesses should just lay down and not fight back.. then I have no idea where you want this conversation to go. Your greatest assets stand out the most.. Microsoft’s assets are said practices. That’s what people see. Nintendo and Sony provide games as well as run their ships in the competing market... but since their games do all the talking.. that’s what a majority of gamers see.
I personally think the only reason the Xbox 360 got a boost was that horrible PS3 launch.
Completely accurate. It wasn't a great console, and it's library paled in comparison to ps3's by the end of the gen. If Sony hadn't flubbed the launch, or decided to eat more of the production cost, ps3 would have went on to dominate just like they're doing now. People look back on past Xbox consoles with rose colored glasses.
well yes in part, but i wouldn't put all of the X360's boost in the shortcommings of the PS3, I think it was actually an ok console when it released.
What exactly was great about the 360? o_O
2020? What happened to 2019?
I didn't watch the video. But I would guess 2019 is some kind of PS5 announcement. Too early for the next Xbox (maybe they put out a streaming/discless XB1, not counting that). 2020 is probably when the PS5 will be available, so maybe it's MS's chance to convince people to wait for their console in 2021. It'll probably be a year later based on their new "most powerful" strategy. So the messaging/marketing in 2020 is critical to their 2021 launch and keeping people from jumping on the PS5 bandwagon... Just speculating of course...
I don't think Sony will even be at 2019's E3. If anything MS has a nice little cushion to do whatever they want next year. I personally think both Sony and MS will announce their next consoles in 2020 and have them available for the holidays. MS has already stated that they're working on their next console, this along side the rumored streaming only console I feel they'll have something to show for 2020 as well as Sony. With how good the One X is, MS already has a good base to start with for their next more powerful console. And yes, this is all just wild speculation on my part also.
There's some speculation that Sony might announce PS5 outside of E3. It's possible they release together, but I just can't see how Ms can keep their promise about being the most powerful console on the market without knowing exactly what Sony's going to release in advance.
I don't think that promise extended past the Xbox One X of staying the most powerful. I could be wrong though. Maybe MS has something up their sleeve to keep that power gap between the consoles. IMO i think that the next gen consoles will have the same or share very similar specs. I think for the next gen fight it'll come down to unique features, services and of course games.
Ign should focus on E3 2019. Nobody can pedict what will happen in 2020 until Microsoft shows their hand in 2019.
Ummm many can predict what Microsoft will do. That is the easy part.
What about 2019? Xbox will remain way behind Playstation next gen. MS has established a sorry ass pattern of few exclusives early on & relying on 3rd parties to carry them afterwards. They have established zero new IP's that have resonated with gamers this gen. Halo, Gears, Forza combo, while still profitable is played out & won't be converting many new consumers. MS has had their worst gen ever in the one crucial area that should truly matter; GAMES. Why should the non converted give a damn about XBox again? Only the the most deluded of fanboys wouldn't call this gen a trainwreck for MS from start to sorry ass finish. So quick to discard current gen they straight up look like Wii U customers. "B'but game pass! And...controllers! And controllers for handicapped people! T'they just bought studios!" Lol. A gen & a half of crap from MS won't soon be forgotten by gamers. # Never forget
I actually think ms is going to capitalize on Sony not being at e3. I think they were already planning on showing the disc less x1s. But are now going to also give concrete info on scarlet. With a posible release window and some early gameplay footage from key first party titles. And they will highlight the fact that all future xbox games will still be playable on xbox one even after scarlet and all your current xbox, xbox 360 and xbox one games will move forward to scarlet.
What? Do you actually believe that media coverage grows during e3? E3 was a electronics entertainment expo show.. the days of “needing” a big hoopla are over. There is no national coverage in the media or tv major channels.. iall the same sites that covers gaming... cover gaming. I mean, even the game awards show is struggling for financial backing to stay alive. Just saying, any of the 3 can announce a game right this very second and not only get coverage, but probably more due to the amount of info these same site have to cover during e3.
don't they mean e3 2019??🤔 seeing as how microsoft are the only ones making a presentation next year they have more at stake since all eyes will be on them.
So true considering they will probably lose to nintendo this year.
Fact. They are losing to Nintendo. They're pinned between PS4 and Switch. Nintendo doesn't even need 4k they just have GAMES.
What a bunch of BS. Everyone says every year is critical to MS at E3. The reality is nothing is changing. PS still outsells XBO. And will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. And by the way, MS doesn't really care too much about consoles sold. They are more concerned about number of gamers playing their games and using their XB/Azure services. Nobody makes money on the consoles sold. You make money by games and services sold.
Xbox has stated they will never be the weaker powered console again. They have also invested in 1st party more than any company has for decades. I wonder what the naysayers will have left to bitch about.
power is nothing, if you don't have the games just ask the pc fanboys or xbox fanboys
Maybe the fact that they managed to completely botch this generation, and they haven't delivered on all that current investment. After so many years of undelivered promises with games, is it so hard to think that people aren't eager to jump on board with MS current "more 1st party investment than any company has for decades"? While Sony and Nintendo are investing more money in actually making games, while MS invests its resources into buying studios, it means that the other companies don't have to invest more, because they're already delivering more. And there is no realistic way that MS can keep the promise of never having the weaker console again. That is some hyperbolic BS from Spencer, because he can't control what the other companies do, and MS would be in a bad position if they just constantly try to one up the competition by being a follower, instead of a leader.
While MS is spending money to buy up studios, the competition is investing more money on making actual games. The competition doesn't need to invest more in 1st party acquisitions, because they have more studios(or dev teams in Nintendo's case), than MS has, They're also delivering on those games, and MS has yet to do that, after a few years not of not really delivering much, so it's pretty easy to see why people would be skeptical, and not really take the optimism of some as serious. Plus, there is no way that MS can realistically keep the promise of having the most powerful console. That is just some hyped up hyperbole from Spencer, because MS can not possibly always know what their competition will deliver. This would mean that MS would always be following the competition, instead of being a leader.
Yeah because now owns some studios you're thinking Nintendo and Sony will slow down for them to catch up?! Nintendo is about to overtake Xbox in only their 2nd year of hardware sales for the Switch and their best games are still on the way. Same with Sony with games like The Last of Us 2 and a whole slew of exclusives with high production values to boot. Ask yourself why Xbox needed to purchase all those studios? Nintendo and Sony have all the studios they need to develop games. Those Xbox studios will have games out in 2020-2021 most likely which would be the 20th year for Xbox. Is 2 decades in the industry some kind of short span of time?! Its ridiculous that its only now passing year 17 that Xbox is lining up their ducks in a row. Its the same group and excuses every single year. Wait for E3, wait till the next Xbox, wait will we get that super powered system, wait till they get the games. Its literally been the same comments every E3.
Wait a minute...are people really still saying “wait for E3” after all these years.?
It's sad. A week after E3 19 they'll be talking about how MS was holding back because they're concentrating on next gen & to...WAIT FOR E3! Textbook definition of insanity...
The answer to this, and many more questions on the next episode of "Wait for E3".
It was a pretty common catch phrase last gen as well only aimed at the PS3. MS and Sony have traded places this gen. MS is the Dan Ackroyd to Sony being Eddie Murphy.
It ain't over till it's over
Who would have thought...Sony fanboys flood an Xbox thread to promote doom and gloom...what a new tactic we have here... I think Microsoft has been positioning themselves for a few years now for the future. We will see how they play their cards but imo, both 2019 and 2020 are important years in terms of messaging and development time.
" I think Microsoft has been positioning themselves for a few years now for the future. We will see how they play their cards but imo, both 2019 and 2020" Oh look its the same comment which is just wait a couple years...... Uhhh... yeah that will be around year 8 for Xbox One and closing in on year 20 for Xbox as a whole. How many decades does Xbox need to actually make games?! They've been 'positioning' themselves for years now. If this were Nintendo and Sony doing the same thing there would be a bunch of Xbox fans making comments like Delaystation etc. Nintendo has MORE games in year 2 than Xbox in year 6 and all we hear is wait for E3, wait for the games.
I hope Microsoft doesn't wait at all. Right now is actually a very crucial time for them. The have just acquired a many great/good developers not only in new studios that have joined them, but also in their existing studios over the past year...now's the time to harness that talent and get them working on AAA games of tomorrow. Preparing for the future is something all companies must do to stay in business...Sony is doing that at present, I hope Microsoft is doing the same. I see nothing wrong with saying that 2019 and 2020 are important years for them. Its important for Sony too.
I never said those years aren't important. Its the idea that the solution is always wait for E3 or year X for this to happen. Its literally every single E3 for 5 years straight that the same Xbox fans keep saying with for next E3 for something. Year 20 of Xbox is when you guys suggest games are coming and thats realistic, but, what makes you think those games will automatically be good?
I don't tell anyone to wait...I don't expect them to do so as a consumer, nor Microsoft as a platform holder. I like what I've seen from them over the past 3 years...again, I feel they have been setting themselves up for a great future...I see nothing wrong with that. Game Pass, Play Anywhere, they've announced streaming...have digital returns, was at the forefront of cross-platform multiplayer with other companies, Free Sync, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos, 4KUHD player and acquired 7 talented game studios with possibly more to come...they have been busy to say the least. If its a notion to wait until they outsell Sony's PS4, then I think that will never happen, nor do I expect that anyone believes that's even possible at this point...but again, all companies must prepare for the future in order to stay in business...I think the Xbox division has been doing just that. Microsoft is now the biggest tech company in the world and they have many advantages they can leverage going forward...next gen is coming whether you think it is or not...Microsoft can do nothing for the next couple years or they can position themselves for it...I know which one I rather see from them...
Thats my point even if they are positioning themselves doesn't change the fact that Sony and Nintendo are already well positioned and prepared as well. MS is all about posturing and have been for years. Its not like Nintendo or Sony are just waiting to be trampled by MS they've also got their own plans as well its a given
Ok...I never said they weren't. Why does me saying a positive thing about Microsoft have to mean that I'm saying something negative about Sony or Nintendo? I wasnt. My post was about Microsoft, not Sony nor Nintendo.