Fallout 76 servers went live a bit early and folks are already review bombing it on Metacritic.
Well, well, well...people are being honest and not letting the Bethesda/Fallout brand cloud their judgment. Good for them but I have a feeling reviewers won't follow through. See this is what you get Bethesda when you try and make a quick cash in...I mean hell make an online Fallout game sure like you did with the Elder Scrolls Online but why get so involved with the development, helping the other studio out which takes time, resources and money away from Elder Scrolls VI or Starfield. I never saw Todd that much on stage when they announced Elder Scrolls Online. Sad thing is Fallout 76 has a good setting, the first vault dwellers setting foot back on the land after the bombs fell discovering the new world for the first time, that would have made a fantastic spin off game like a spiritual successor to New Vegas (by that I mean spin off wise, not a direct sequel). Yet they wasted it on this and I hope to God they just pretend this game dosen't exist in canon when they realise it's not as well liked. Still think they should have used the spin off games like New Vegas to venture into new territory story wise, whether it's something like Fallout 76 in terms of being the earliest prequel or maybe use a spin off game to go outside the US, maybe the UK in London.
They've been getting away with rubbish performance in their games for over a decade and the games were getting amazing reviews. I'll never buy another Bethesda game unless it's proper polished and I'm a massive elder scrolls fan
I’m not sure what is to hate on about this game? Isn’t it just a multiplayer Fallout? What is so bad about that?
@Skull The worst thing about Fallout going multiplayer is Fallout going multiplayer. There is your answer.
@skull People decided that they were going to hate this game as soon as it was revealed. It's a circle-jerk whine fest. This game is going to have a ton added to it. The biggest reason people like Foxtrot call this "being honest" instead of a bunch of predetermined hate and trolling is because they hated it preemptively, too.
@skull: "I’m not sure what is to hate on about this game?" Because it's forced MP that is just going to be rife with people griefing each other. Had they made a single player game with the *option* for DiDo co-op, and nixed all of the terrible base-building garbage, ti might have been more well-received.
I mean we already have a proper single player Fallout this generation. If anything the reason to be mad is we’re going to go a whole generation without an Elder Scrolls game and instead got 2 Fallouts. If the game sucks then it sucks. Maybe it turns out to be better than single player Fallout.
You know they will still do a regular single player Fallout game in the future...why not let the people that love Fallout and multiplayer have their day. It's not even made by the same studio.
@karate: You literally just answered your own question with the second half of that same question.
I don’t see what’s wrong with people being able to play with a friend/friends in a franchise that they appreciate. I enjoyed RE5 just as much as 4 simply because I could tackle the campaign with a friend/family member
You do know Bethesda makes more then just elder scrolls and fallout right? Bethesda released amazing titles last year such as prey, Wolfenstein 2, evil within and dishonoured dlc. All of which were heavily graphic and non glitchy games. Games that are all hella fun too
@ziggurcat In my 3 hours last night, I barely came across others and when I did, none of them attacked me. The game is hardly rife with griefers. Sure things may change in the future. But so might the anti-griefing mechanism. They could add the ability to opt out of all PvP damage if the community call for it is strong enough. So far though I haven't even been attacked by another player. Even as a pot shot.
@dante: Those games you listed weren't developed by Bethesda, they were published. Other devs made those games. @sniper: That's fine if you don't think the game will be a grief fest. It will be, though... just a matter of time or the right instance you spawn into.
@Skull “Maybe it turns out to be better than single player Fallout. “ A lot of previews have been quite negative especially from YouTubers. Also I doubt it will be even close to New Vegas where quality is concerned. Heck I don’t believe it will be better than Fallout 4 in my opinion.
Yeah, I think people have enough with Bethesda laziness this time around.
I truly believe if this was a SP Fallout sequel, complaints about old engine, bugs, and lazy development would be slim. MP only is the source of complaints it seems.
If they put any of this game's crap in the next, proper Fallout, I am done with this series.
If it was $20 DLC for Fallout 4 there would less complaints.
I will keep saying this over and over again. Fallout is Massively Overrated!! Bad controls, horrible graphics, horrible AI animation. I give the fallout franchise a 6/10 at best. Not bad but not near the hype people think the game is worth. When you see other open world games like the Witcher and Rd2 it makes you wonder why gamers keep giving Fallout a pass and not calling them out on there crap. We need to start calling out average games that are made irrespective of there developers “status”.
The Fallout games are anything but average. And this is coming from someone who only calls themselves a minor/moderate fan of their works. I can totally respect their world-building, lore and general extravagance when it comes down to bringing an entire city to fruition.
For all of their faults, New Vegas and Fallout 3 was/is a great game. Of course, Obsidian made New Vegas, but both 3 and NV has some great role-playing.
Not for nothing but I played Witcher 3 on ps4 2 years after launch and had 3 glitches that required me to revert to an old save and 1 that they never even fixed. On top of around 8 chests I could never loot and my horse getting stuck under the map. People act like open world games don't have problems when they all do
I think you're right, when I first played fallout 4 I thought it was a basic FPS but for singleplayer. But I think where all the hype is coming from is the magic in New Vegas and Fallout 3 that people have grown attached to.
Wait, so this is a multiplayer only Fallout? I rented it looking to try something new but I was hoping for a single player experience.
Eh. While I am not the biggest fan of this particular iteration of Fallout, I think review bombing, in general, is incredibly stupid. It does not show anything but that people are averse to change and are actively judging something that cannot be judged on a short playthrough of the beta. I am not even remotely a fan of this game, but I'd rather present my arguments in an actually useful manner to give the developers something to chew on rather than say "1/10...THIS AINT FALLOUT" like some overly entitled, self-aggrandizing "fanboy". Play the finished game, and then vocalize your disapproval. Doing it preemptively is foolish. It does not "teach them a lesson". It just makes them work that much harder to parse through the ACTUAL data from the game and player base to find out what the real gripes actually are within the design of the game itself.
I'm sure there is a lot of that but let's be honest, Bethesda charged 60 usd for what should be a free-to-play game.
You can judge that: - it's multiplayer, in a Fallout setting (which is all I need to reject it) - it's devoid of NPCs and feels like a vast emptiness - other players are not there to flesh out the world, but to do their own thing - its nearly nonexistent story sucks
Skull That would be good only if the game actually worked. Game engine is the problem and Bethesda's refusal to create a new engine even for next Gen games is another underlying problem JLYNN No sir Bethesda refusing to confirm months after reveal that the game IS MP only is the reason behind the hate. For a while they said don't believe Lal the leaks or rumors even though all the leaks and rumors turned out to be true The hate for FO76 is for Bad game engine Bad performance No NPC's to populate the game Extremely tight inventory weight limits
Let’s be serious for a thought. Reviewers are likely not to follow suit because the ones review bombing are the ones who decided they were going to hate this game no matter what, not the people who thought they might enjoy it, decided to buy and immediately submitted their impressions to metacritic
I don't think it's surprising, people liked Fallout because it's NOT this..
Read the poor reviews @Foxtrot and you will be disgraced for supporting the "review bombing" Review bombing is generally is when people have NEVER played the game and go on to write a poor review... I mean you see all the 0 and 1 scores and it's utter bullshit period... like 1 or 2 sentences and all of a sudden the games a 0? or a 1... your a disgrace for supporting review bombing as it's always held in negative connotation... Reviews from the editors and gaming sites will probably be a lot higher because they actually play the game... It's not always video games either there was a campaign to review bomb the movie Venom so some other movie could take the #1 spot... Review Bombing should never be encouraged.
Fallout is pure American culture dude, I can not imagine outside the USA Fallout game.
Someone in IGN doesn't like it...
Its MC user reviews. Which are completely worthless. Anyone can give any rating and not show a single shred of proof they played even 5 minutes of the game.
I can tell you guys one thing, clearly nobody here has actually played it. It's not bad. in fact, it might even be kind of awesome. So far, all of the players ive met have been pretty friendly.
... and so it starts ... again.
Well at least it's cross-platform play..... oh wait. /s
Its basically just fallout 4 online nothing new or interesting really.
Its even worse, atleast Fallout 4 had a story and Npc's
there is a story and NPC's though you run in to a lot of NPC's. i want to add how many of the really good NPC's in fallout 4 were Human NPC's i can think of none they was all generic shit NPC's. Fallout's humour has always been the random NPC's like the ghouls,super mutants and AI's, which there is plenty in fallout 76.
it's a full on new fallout experience..so calling fallout 4 online is not accurate...adding to your inaccuracy is that this game has tons of NPC's and features lots of story and lore. Just because they are not human does not mean they are not a NPC. Having human npcs would break the experience since all the full on humans are just leaving Vault 76. I am sure we will see new quest in the future that have Vault 76 humans as they settle in. I also believe when the other vaults open up we will also engage other human NPCs. This is a live game that will evolve.
Having played fallout, fallout 2, fallout 3 and fallout New Vegas fallout 4 and having played fallout 76 during the preorder beta its a full on fallout 4 experience with other people is the completely accurate way to describe the game. Its fallout 4 assets set in virgina and its called 76 there is the differences.
my thoughts exactly kukwes, so so much room for expansion with this game, i think its solid so far
I'm not a fan of the Fallout series, but I am getting tired of games companies just taking a popular franchise and making some crappy online spin off. If they want an online game, then why don't they just make one without attaching a popular name to it? I'm not really into online games, but this was a good chance for Bathesda to create a new ip. This gen has been far too reliant on sequels, reboots and spin offs. Horizon is one of the only new games that has been really successful.
Fallout is what got my brother into playing video games and we've wanted a way to play it together ever since, there are in fact people who wanted a fallout online
Its marketing 101 man. Why try and build a new IP from scratch when you have a very strong existing IP that you can cash in on?
The existence of FO76 does not damage the ability to have a FO5 someday. Sure it's an MP game with up to 24 players on a map. Is the story weak? I don't know yet. I am not saying it's what everyone wanted nor as good as previous iterations of FO. But I am sure many if not most of the complaints from people on FO76 are from people who have not played the game but just watched streams or videos. It's ok to consider someone's opinion in that manner but take it for what it is. I have my misgivings about BGS mind you delivering games with many bugs or a seemingly outdated engine, but they are surely not alone in that practice. I bought the game for my X1x at a steep discount. Have not played it much yet but sure will try with some friends.
Funny thing is if the just did a fallout 3 anniversary edition with vr support as rumoured fans would have been quite happy and development costs would have been minimal
But then they couldn't bring in those juicy MTs into FO3 for idiots to keep buying.
No because then the fans would complain that they did it with 3 instead of nv, the fans are never happy
... or maybe the game is just that bad?
After years of selling, essentially, a framework for modders, at a premium, it's nice finally seeing Bethesda have to eat a piece of humble pie. 76, literally, was Bethesda seeing how much they can get away with with their audience. How little can they offer the player, and how bad a shape can it be in? Hope this one hits them hard.
you are part of the disease that is rotting the game industry and restricting developers freedom
You are free to take a dump in the middle of the town square. That doesn't mean there will be no consequences for you.
This is why I don’t follow metacritic to begin with. Some might be genuine but a lot are just pissy fans or even haters that don’t like it because it’s not what they had previously. Those weigh it down a lot more than it should be otherwise. And it happens more and more for every single game, some just have enough genuine reviews where they can offset the bad more.
Agree. User reviews on Metacritic have become such a joke. Most people either give the game a 0 or a 10, no in between. And what's funny is that the majority haven't even played it.
User reviews have never been reliable. Their only utility comes at a time like this, when they're useful as a measure of how many people are pissed off at a game.
Lots of reviews on metacritic are review bombs look at shadow of the tomb raider it went on sale post launch and got review bombed despite being a good title. Fallout 76 I have a little less faith that it's all review bombs I've watched lots of footage from different streamers the overall tone is it's kind of buggy and the PC version is broken
It’s the first modern fallout I have skipped. I don’t care to go write a bad review about it lol.
People could learn a little something from you. Good lad.
I don't think it looks much good as it is but often games like this are bare bones at the start and after a couple of years have a lot more going on as well as having the launch issues ironed out. It is Bethesda so who knows on that one. More interesting quests would be what's needed by the sounds of it. Escort this, shoot that. Meh. It's the stories and characters you uncover from exploration that make Fallout a great series.
an online based fallout game that discourages you from engaging against other players and penalizes you for trying to
So you are just angry because you can't attack anyone you want whenever you want?
Not angry, just calling out how ridiculous the whole game is based on everything presented.
@inthezoneac But what you are presenting is false. The game doesn't discourage you from engaging with others, the opposite actually. What it discourages is people degrading the game into a pvp gankfest.
I am not a fan of this game but the whole rating a game a zero just because your mad is really getting tiring.
It wasn’t that long ago when these “reviews bombs” were laughed at and rightfully so. Have you ever based a purchase on a user review? Not word of mouth but an actual “user review”? Hell no, nobody cares what those people say. Or nobody did.. It reminds me of these massive cutthroat corporations caving to a couple hundred goofball signatures on Twitter. I don’t blame the activists for trying, I’m laughing at the corporation subjecting itself and being dominated by such idiocy. I’m a large believer in the “you get what you deserve” philosophy lol. We’re tired of seeing people cave to utter morons, I think that’s what it boils down to.
The game is a blast I have over 25 hours in now and it’s just getting better .
They aggressively monetized the Fallout series. Of course people are put off... that and the beautiful game engine. Those reviews are hilarious lol