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Obsidian and inXile Join Microsoft Studios

by Matt Booty, Corporate Vice President, Microsoft Studios:
"As part of our commitment to bringing a steady stream of new, exclusive games to our fans, I’m excited to announce Microsoft’s intent to acquire two new game development studios – Obsidian Entertainment and inXile Entertainment."

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Spurg2424d ago (Edited 2424d ago )

2 great rpg studios
Inxile-
Torment: Tides of Numenera
Wasteland
Bard's tale

Obsidian Entertainment-
Fallout new vegas
Star wars knight of the old republic 2
Alpha protocol

That makes a lot of new studios Ms have acquired and their future and commitment in this industry is clear.
343 industry
The Coalition
Turn 10
Rare
Mojang
Ninja theory
Playground games
The initiative
Compulsion games
Undead Labs
Inxile
Obsidian Entertainment

Alexious2424d ago

Indeed. Though perhaps they should have gone with one great JRPG studio to diversify more.

The 10th Rider2424d ago

Aren't Japanese companies really averse to being bought out by foreign companies or something like that?

UnHoly_One2423d ago

Plus JRPG’s are terrible. :D

Just one man’s opinion, don’t lose your minds.

Skull5212423d ago

When you’re right, you’re right.

NewMonday2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Obsidian is a great catch, if they give them funds to make AAA graphics there is a 90% chance I will buy the next Xbox .

they should let them make Fable.

And if Obsidian teams up with Ninja theory there is a 200% chance I will buy the next Xbox.

mikeslemonade2423d ago

Good now convince to buy a Xbox by keeping these games fully exclusive. That includes not putting it out on PC.

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Atom6662424d ago

Now it's really starting to be impressive.

Sciurus_vulgaris2424d ago

It not how many studios that matter. What will matter is how MS/Xbox uses its "family" of first-party studios. MS reps have repeatedly stated the new studios are independent from each other, thus,creative freedom of the different studios is implied.

Jinger2424d ago

Which is a good thing. That way all their games don't start feeling similar too each other... Lord knows we don't need all games to become 3rd person emotional cinematic games. Sony has us covered there

agent45322423d ago

I am a bit skeptical for Microsoft has a track record of running amazing game studios to the ground. Those studios were:

Mistwalker Studios
Lionhead
Rare

Microsoft needs to let their studios to do the games they love not keep them making the same franchise over and over which is why Biggie left.

The 10th Rider2423d ago

@agent4532,

By Biggie I assume you mean Bungie? That is why they left, but I still find that really weird because they then want on to sign a 10 year franchise agreement with Activision of all people, lol.

"We're tired of working on the same franchise, so we're excited to announce we've left Microsoft and signed a deal with Activision to lock us down on our next franchise for the next ten years!"

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gangsta_red2424d ago

Wasteland 2 was awesome and i think part 3 was announced.

As for Torment: Tides of Numenera ...well, that game seriously sucked.

conanlifts2423d ago

My issue from this developer is too much text. Less reading in their games would be good.

MadLad2423d ago

It was great from a roleplaying and player agency perspective. The combat was lame though, and the art was less than amazing. I still really enjoyed it though.

Vegamyster2424d ago

Obsidian was hit by layoffs in 2011 & 2012, they missed their bonus from Bethesda on New Vegas. A lot of the guys that made those three games aren't there anymore hence why they've been making smaller budget games like Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny, ect.

Ulf2423d ago

Pillars was probably Obsidian's finest work.

Vegamyster2423d ago

I'm not arguing the quality but they're not on the same scale, it's kinda disingenuous to use those three bigger budget games instead of their recent work which weren't as big especially given news of how Pillars of Eternity 2 flopped pretty hard. I hope they do well given their current financial woes, i want them to see what they can do with a larger budget.

Ausbo2423d ago

The reason they’ve been making smaller games is Microsoft cancelled a big launch title from them. Supposed to be a AAA RPG. That hit them hard and they almost had to close. So In a sense Microsoft screwed them over and then saved them.

However, there’s new management with Microsoft (Phil, booty), so maybe everything is all better now

Sophisticated_Chap2424d ago (Edited 2424d ago )

Microsoft is now a true competitor in the game development space. This is pretty exciting. Looking forward to seeing what next gen holds for MS. Now all they need to complete the pie, is to buy Remedy.

UltraNova2423d ago

To truly be considered as a competitor you first need to put up a worthy fight, in this case produce some great games first. The best approach here is to keep expectations at bay until MS delivers the fight.

PowerOfTheCloud2423d ago

Yeah they are potentially a true competitor. But they have to constantly deliver awesome AAA games and not low effort gamws like sea of thieves, state of decay and probably crackdown 3

conanlifts2424d ago

I wonder if they are done or whether they will announce any more next E3? A couple more additions would certainly be welcome. Plus as I mentioned above, both of the new studios release a new game every 1-2 years, so they have the ability to keep the games coming, which is fantastic. Not to mention how gamepass suddenly looks like a must have purchase for any gamer next gen.

ThinkThink2423d ago

Instead of acquiring more studios, maybe they should just add on more teams like they did with playground games.

conanlifts2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

@ThinkThink. I agree this would be good, but it is more risky, which is probably why they are not doing it as much. They are purchasing established studios for their talent and ideas as much as anything else. But it would be good if they expanded their current studies as well.

King_Noctis2423d ago

I feel like there gonna be some more announcement regarding studio acquisitions, as they need more to boost their Gamepass service. It is looking like they are talking Gamepass very seriously, and I hope it will become the Netflix of gaming.

-Foxtrot2424d ago

Well...there’s the final nail for a spiritual successor to New Vegas

Oh well

Spurg2424d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Did you actually think Bethesda and Obsidian's relationship were tip top after the review debacle?

-Foxtrot2423d ago

Hey you never know

There was a chance...more then now

MadLad2423d ago

Bethesda weren't going to let that happen. They've been a bit bitter at the fact that, years later, fans of the series consider New Vegas the better release over Fallout 3.
Then look what they did to the series with 4.

Vegamyster2423d ago

TedCruzsTaint

I don't think that really mattered, i think the problem was the financial situation Obsidian was in at that point which wasn't great and they laid off a bunch of people. Given how New Vegas was already a pretty buggy product regardless of how good the game was minus those issues, it wouldn't make sense for Bethesda from a business perspective to green light another product with a studio that's been scaled down and is having issues.

King_Noctis2423d ago

If Bethesda really wanted another Fallout New Vegas, then we would already got one and not that bullcrap Fallout 76.

Plus, Obsidian is known for developing multiple projects at once. So who know. Maybe they might have a game similar to Fallout planned in the future.

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Retroman2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

@ spurg

MS should have done this in the beginning with original Xbox.
with those foremention Dev hope not all of them developing open world only games.
except Turn 10 and Rare.

crazyCoconuts2423d ago

Nice to see them put their money where their mouth is. I'm starting to see a future where I might come back to Xbox.

TGGJustin2423d ago

2 Great RPGs studios? Lol sorry but nothing Inxile has made is great. All of their games are average at best.

ThinkThink2423d ago

Your opinion has been noted, and disagreed with. Imagine these studios with bigger budgets and even more resources. Next gen is looking pretty exciting.

MadLad2423d ago

Wasteland 2 won multiple awards, and Tides, while the combat was pretty lackluster, was fantastic on the roleplaying and player choice aspect.

King_Noctis2423d ago

Torment got 81% on Metacritic. That is not the definition of average to me, especially when we have people here proclaiming that games like Detroit which got 78 on Metacritic deserve GOTY.

starchild2423d ago

I don't agree. They've made some great games. Especially Wasteland 2.

Strafe2423d ago

This is why thisgengaming.com is shit. You have people like TGGJustin, and he's a complete spanner.

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TheSaint2423d ago

Honestly, how many of them do you expect to survive long enough to release a game?

King_Noctis2423d ago

Yeah what is the point of acquiring them without closing them first before they release any game?

N4G’s logic is awesome.

jznrpg2423d ago

Inxile is a decent rpg company I wouldn’t call it great . Obsidian is a much better company but they don’t own any of those IPs

King_Noctis2423d ago

Uhh...they own games like Pillar of Eternity and Tyranny which are some of their best games.

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ILostMyMind2423d ago

A lot of RIP will have to be given.

King_Noctis2423d ago

To Sony fanboys today? Yeah you are right.

King_Noctis2423d ago

There are alot of salty people today. Its kindda like they wished MS wouldn’t announce any studio acquisition at this event lol.

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Lilrizky2423d ago

The guys who make Ori, Moon studios I think is owned by Microsoft too, though I could be wrong. Either way they are an excellent dev too.

Christopher2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

If they're allowed to continue making the games they have, I'll buy them on Xbox if that's the only place I can get them on consoles. Obsidian has been one of the most solid teams for CRPGs since the late 90s.

I do hope this doesn't mean PoE2 isn't cancelled for PS4. I don't think I'll rebuy it on a third platform just to carry over the save. I'll probably just pick it up on PC and play from my laptop if that's the case, though not preferable.

Inxile is okay. I really hated the Numenera ruleset implementation into the sequel to my favorite game of all time (which, coincidentally, was made by now Obisidian employees and Chris Avellone). Wasteland was good. Bard's Tale is a classic, but not great. So, if these guys leave behind bad rulesets or at least implement them in a manner where I don't feel like every choice I do is at the expense of extremely limited point pool (most decisions in a PnP game would have been roleplayed, but in CRPG, they decided to have them cost points for the most basic of decisions).

iofhua2423d ago

Microsoft won't do anything with these IP's. They are dead and won't be seen in the gaming world for maybe another 20+ years.

Eventually someone in the far future will buy the IP back from Microsoft for pennies on the dollar and do something with it again.

Microsoft doesn't make games. Microsoft entombs games.

jordan22290ps2423d ago

I'm Playstation all the way but it's pretty stupid how you're gonna get a bunch of down votes for saying a clear and innocuous thing like that.

Glak182423d ago

I know where you are going with this, but at least get the games right. YES, Obsidian developed the games you listed and own Alpha Protocol, they do not own New Vegas or KotOR. How you can leave out PoE or Tyranny is a bit mind boggling.

This is what MS bought for current IPs:
Torment (inXile)
Wasteland (inXile)
The Bard's Tale (inXile)
Alpha Protocol (Obsidian)
Pillars of Eternity (Obsidian)
Tyranny (Obsidian)

This is a great acquisition for the PC side, the problem is casual console gamers do not like these games...too much reading and thinking and being creative and stuff.

Christopher2422d ago

Just FYI, Torment is owned by Brian Fargo specifically. If he leaves, he could take it with him or sell it to the company. After Interplay/Black Isles went away, he maintained it through an LLC with him as signer of the holding. There's been no registration update that says he's moved it to Microsoft or inXile to date.

xRacer74x2423d ago

Obsidian did the excellent South park stick of truth as well.

xX-oldboy-Xx2423d ago

All studios shadows of their former self - bar a few and I mean a few.

Master of Unlocking2422d ago

Sweet Jesus, are you on Microsoft's payroll or what???

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Imalwaysright2424d ago

Publishers buying studios is something perfectly normal in this industry.

zackeroniii2423d ago

Yeah shows how talentless microsoft is to develop their own studios and how easily microsoft's sheep believes and thinks these moves are actually going to make microsoft better...how miraculous

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Sono4212423d ago

Damn MS really making moves, maybe next gen will actually be intersting, I cancelled my GamesPass due to nothing interesting to keep me paying for it, but them adding all these new titles and if they add all the games these new studios are going to be making to games pass, i'm completely sold, I think in concept the GamesPass is a great deal, if NIntendo and Sony had one I would get it in a heart beat.

ghostrider322424d ago

First, it was MS need more first party studios. Now it's a problem. There really is no winning with you people. I see why most publishers don't listen to their fans. Gamers whine just for the sake of it like anime fans.

lxeasy2423d ago

@ghostrider32 couldn't agree more

aconnellan2423d ago

Lol right

“MS needs to invest in first party!”

*buys and creates 7 first party studios in the last 6 months*

“Lol classic MS, can’t believe they’re buying studios”

Kavorklestein2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

How dare they spend billions trying to get new games developed and help struggling developers have strong financial backing? The nerve of those guys, I mean what were they thinking?
/S

CJQNSNYC2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

It's NOT a problem.

You forget, this site isn't as much a gaming news site as it is a Sony fan and appreciation site. ANY positive statement about Microsoft will instantly get shot down no matter what it is. The very definition of bias. Sony has been doing very well for itself and it's fans. A very large percentage of those fans DO NOT want there to be any competition whatsoever.

One company doesn't have to fail in order for the other to thrive.

Bane352423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

I agree thats because xbox is the black sheep this generation hopefully next gen will be better for them

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Godmars2902423d ago

Buying proven studios with popular IPs only to under-utilize them, retool them for multiplayer, while - possibly - exploiting those IPs?

paintedgamer19842423d ago

Dont forget making them have mt's gaas and ridden with ms ads and most likely eventually pc exclusive...

aconnellan2423d ago

@painted

When has this ever happened?

ThinkThink2423d ago

Don't be sad guys, Sony is still great too.

Godmars2902423d ago

@ThinkThink:
Screw Sony at this point. Where MS is blindingly focused on services and community "experiences" Sony's ignoring nearly everything for cinematic "walking" sims.

Still, they put out well received titles where talks up something that if it comes out is lukewarm at best.

MadLad2423d ago

It's reported that these new studios retain development freedom. MS is just writing the checks, and grabbing exclusives.

Godmars2902423d ago

@TedCruzsTaint:
And still: wait and see. Wait. And. See.

That's been the annoying thing about the Xbox fan camp since 360 fanaticism: taking MS's word as gospel regardless of result. Thinking Sony fanboys are the exact same.

Game companies don't own my loyalty because they once put out one game I liked, they earn and re-earn it with each successive "good" game put out. They want my money they better entertain me, they're not entitled to it.

Many issues with main stream entertainment is that the consumer has stopped being the customer. With the game industry especially the customer has become stockholders where gamers are tolerated and placated while talking to them. When the industry said it was "recession proof" they were not talking to you. They knew you'd buy whatever was offered.

King_Noctis2423d ago

Oh yeah...that is why Playground game is so shitty right now.

Oh wait.

chiefJohn1172423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

You need to calm TF down. Geez it's just games. Stop bring up old ish, Xbox is under new management. In Phil we Trust. He's delivered every promise so I have no reason to doubt that man.
We ask for BC DONE!
A new u.i DONE!
More power DONE!
More studios DONE!
chillax and let things play out before going crazy and that buy whatever they put thing you said don't apply to me. Haven't spent a dollar on MT and won't spend a dime on a product I don't deem worth my purchase and time

Garrett_the_GOD2422d ago

I was worried about their multiplayer only view myself but honestly I think they are now more focused on beefing up for GamePass..they claim they are gonna give these Studios creative freedom and I think thats exactly what they will do...Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2 were both a product of their multiplayer focus and neither did all that great while they have watched Sony and Nintendo release great big selling single player games like Uncharted 4,Horizon Zero Dawn,God of War,Spider-Man,Zelda:Breath of the Wild,Mario Oddysey,etc..I think they realize their multiplayer only focus wasnt what the gamers wanted.I dont think they are gonna force these studios to be something they aren't but I guess only time will tell as we have seen Microsoft Studios become a factory for a single franchise The Koalition only makes Gears of War,343 only makes Halo,Turn 10 only makes Forza..I think they finally realize we want more than the same ole shit

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annoyedgamer2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Whoa I havent seen you since your 2010 trolling days.

AngelicIceDiamond2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Yep because its always a catch 22 with ppl like you. Despite the fact for many, many years everyone wanted MS to buy new studios. "MS with all their money should build or acquire studios" Has been said a million times over and the focal point of MS issue for a while.

So no its not Classic anything. MS needs to be doing this.

Seafort2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Not buy already established studios but create and invest in completely new studios from scratch.

Inxile and Obsidian will not last long at MS. They will be exploited for their IP and closed down like Ensemble and Lionhead was.

Kiwi662423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

So for ages people say MS needs more studios yet when MS do just that it's still not good enough, guess some people are never satisfied

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH2423d ago

MS fans are satisfied it’s the Sony fanboys that always seem to be dissatisfied with MS. Wonder why...

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CaptainObvious8782423d ago

I mean it's good to see ms start to take themselves seriously in the industry, something they should have done decades ago, but I wish they would build their own studios instead of buy existing ones.

I'd still prefer this, though, then for them to spend money on timed exclusives.

Garrett_the_GOD2422d ago

Buying established studios is any publishers best bet...buying these Studios as well as Playground and Ninja Theory was a great move on Microsoft..these studios have been releasing quality games for years now..thats much better than putting together new teams of strangers that have yet to build any chemistry together

starchild2423d ago

You do realize that that's how Sony acquired many of their best developers right? Studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games, Media Molecule and Sucker Punch were all bought by Sony.

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gangsta_red2424d ago (Edited 2424d ago )

Obsidian!!! Seriously, get to work on Pillars 3, borrow (heavy) from Divinity 2, keep that Baldurs love letter design and put some of that MS money behind it!

It'll be day zero for me!

I know for a fact that Septic can't wait for the next Pillars game.

Kribwalker2424d ago

a spiritual successor to Fall Out New Vegas would be good

King_Noctis2423d ago

This is one of the projects that I think Obsidian might be interested in the most, as on their own they might not have enough cash to fund it.

Gazondaily2424d ago

Lol to hell with Pillars.

Seven studios in one year. Damn man

AdonisIsBeast2424d ago (Edited 2424d ago )

Seven studios in one year. Which means that they only had a handful prior to these acquisitions. Which is a red flag for the future of the company if they plan to have consistent releases. This needed to happen.

Srhalo2424d ago

Why do you care about Pillars? You talked crap about that and Torment, I guess now that Microsoft owns them they have become good games...

gangsta_red2424d ago

I sure did, which is why I'm saying Part 3 needs to be better, especially now that MS owns them.

They also bought that studio that made that shitty Tides game. But then they have Wasteland 3.

Thank goodness MS bought them right butchert...I mean Srhalo?

Srhalo2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Are you and kribwalker the same account or something?

Yes, much better... it needs more MT's and online only and... oh screw it lets just make games that are completely different games while were at it. I mean who cares about all the people who liked the games for what they were.

paintedgamer19842423d ago

Just like now that pubg is on ps4 its a shit game anyhow 🤣

gangsta_red2423d ago

"it needs more MT's and online only and.."

Oh yeah, because this all happened before with...with...uuummm, what game did they do this with?

Oh yeah, not one game.

Just more wishing, hoping and forever moving the goal posts.

"Are you and kribwalker the same account or something?"

Wouldn't that explain a lot!

Kribwalker2423d ago

I have heard Gangsta Red scream from the heavens about pillars. Me, i’m not a huge fan of those games, Me i’m looking for obsidian to bring out something more along the lines of Fall Out New Vegas, or South Park the stick of truth. Two awesome games made by these very devs.

I don’t think MS will Butcher them, do you Senor? did they just Troll everyone by buying them only to butcher them? are they gonna become Butcher Trolls?

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jznrpg2423d ago

Pillars 2 sold really poorly part of the reason they got bought out . Not sure there will be a 3 if 2 failed so miserably.

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franwex2424d ago (Edited 2424d ago )

The games from those studios have been available on the Xbox tho

TheColbertinator2424d ago

@franwex

I meant exclusive Xbox RPGs like Fable.

DuckOnQuack352423d ago

Lmao Fable is far from dead. It's definitely in the making. That is a fact.

hench072424d ago

Next gen is going to be huge for Xbox

Gazondaily2424d ago

Yeah definitely. Gonna be great for competition

Srhalo2424d ago

They are buying studios that were making games for both consoles and PC's that's not good for gamers nor does it breed competition.

gangsta_red2424d ago (Edited 2424d ago )

LMAO!!! Hey septic, according to Srhalo these studios will stop making games. This can't be good for gamers or competition!

ThatGuyDart2423d ago

Gonna be hard to catch up with NIntendo and Sony.

Godmars2902423d ago

@gangsta_red:
More than likely they'll make "community" games with options for MTs much less DLC. Will be offered on both PC as well as Xbox, which wont really benefit Xbox. That's not going to be good for competition against the PS5, which only has a weak point regarding BC.

NeoGamer2322423d ago

@Srhalo
So if a studio makes PC games that is not good for gamers or does not breed competition?

Ummmmmmmm. Logic lacking.

These are two great RPG studios. By giving them the backing of MS they can make their games better, Better games will create more competition.

How can this not be good for gamers?

Srhalo2423d ago

@NeoGamer232

I notice a sever lack of comprehension from xbox owners today...

If you have a studio that is making games for all the consoles and an open platform like Steam then you make them only make games for one console and lock them behind windows store which is a very closed platform compared to Steam. Yes that's bad for gamers and for competition.

AngelicIceDiamond2423d ago

"They are buying studios that were making games for both consoles and PC's " Oh you mean like how they been doing? If its not an issue now then why would it be an issue in the near future? Please explain.

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Srhalo2423d ago

@ImGumbyDammit

Get back to me when you can custom mod a game on Windows Store.

Sophisticated_Chap2423d ago

@ Godmars

If you are still basing success of Xbox or PlayStation on consoles sold, then you are not understanding the transformation that is happening in the industry, both, on the hardware level (PC/Laptop/Smart Phones) and the services level. Next generation is where it will be clear, that it is all about Xbox Live and PlayStation Network, and where you can access these services, not console hardware, although consoles will still play a role to a degree.

The future of Xbox Live and PlayStation Network, is in the PC space, competing with Steam, origin and all of the other services, including whatever Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google come up with. You will be able to access your games from the device of your choice. Xbox has the advantage, and a big one, over Sony and virtually every other big tech company out there.

Next gen will be a complete game changer. If Sony doesn't focus more on the PSN, they will not be able to keep up. The days of big console sales as we know it, may be over after this gen, mainly because most people will not see the need to upgrade their consoles, particularly if they do not have a 4k tv.

starchild2423d ago

@Srhalo

Why do you seem to think that that only applies to Microsoft? Sony has bought most of their best studios. Anytime a platform holder buys studios, or enters into exclusivity deals with studios, they are taking developer talent off the market and keeping it off other platforms.

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InTheZoneAC2424d ago

right...look where Crackdown is at

Imalwaysright2424d ago (Edited 2424d ago )

Yeah it seems that the agressive and competitive stance that we saw from them at the start of last generation and was practically non existent this gen is back. As a PC gamer I probably won't buy their console but I sure as hell will be buying their 1st party games.

Godmars2902423d ago

???

Last gen - Xbox 360 - they not only made a big show of buying studios, actually delivering games the one time, but did it again to ll of a wet fart. They also brought in the likes of Square and other JP devs and look where they are now in Japan.

No, on the other hand don't: its pretty messy.

Imalwaysright2423d ago

Don't what? I don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing! In the 360 initial years they had the likes of Mass Effect and Gears. I still remember the meltdowns when FF13 and DMC 4 were announced for the 360. They managed to get exclusives from Capcom and SE such as Lost Planet and The Last Remnant. They also funded Mistwalker and got Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey as exclusives. They managed to make a deal with 2K to make Bioshock a timed exclusive and all this from the top of my head.

They were agressive and had the will to compete. This lasted until they saw how successful the Wii was. Enter kinect and that's when the 360 started going downhill. This generation was lackluster but now they're preparing for next gen. They are investing again to be able to give Sony a run for their money like they did at the start of last gen but it seems that they learned something because now they're doing it in a much more effective way. Instead of relying on 2nd and 3rd party studios they are investing in 1st party studios and some of them like Obsidian had the talent but didn't have the budget to show us their true potential.

MS wanting to compete and invest are awesome news to me as it means more great games. Why just have great games from 2 of the big 3 when I can have great games from all of them?

rainslacker2424d ago

They're certainly making some good moves for that by acquiring some of these studios.

Godmars2902423d ago

And they still have to deliver.

rainslacker2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Yeah, but for now, they're doing something which people said they need to do. I'll make judgement on the delivery when that time comes. I've resigned myself that this gen is a bust for them, and next gen I may not care since I will wait until MS delivers.

If I don't care come next gen, then I probably won't really spend much time discussing what they do, unless it has broader reaching implications...which will reside in the areas of their policies and approaches to the future.

I know they've procrastinated most of this gen, but I don't believe in criticizing them over something which I said they needed to do. What they're doing now will take time to come to fruition, but unlike the times in the past where people said give them time, there are appreciable examples of them doing something about their shortcomings.

Godmars2902423d ago

Again, the point is that they've yet to actually *DO* anything except make announcements.

We have literally - L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y - been through this s**t multiple times. Ms announces something, the fan base declare it'll win MS the gen, blow Sony out of the water, only for a game to disappoint if it even comes out. Then its months of defensive BS from the Xbox camp, maybe a few admissions from the hardcore, only for this s**t to start all over again at the next announcement.

rainslacker2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

I understand where you're coming from. And I still think they have to deliver. I'm just not going to spend the next couple years saying they have to deliver, when I know all those first 5 announcements from E3 came at the tail end of a project they just released, and one was a brand new studio that just started hiring their key people about a month ago.

It takes time to build games, and while that excuse wasn't really acceptable after Phil took over, because they didn't have anything else to fall back on, were cancelling games, and had no signs of something in the works....which we now can see they didn't unless they're still holding back games announcements, it doesn't mean that they don't have something now I feel we should give them the time to build on.

Criticize them for their handling of this gen as much as they deserve, but at the same time, I don't expect them to perform miracles in getting these new acquisitions out in a quick manner. I see they're doing something now at least, and I know that won't matter for this gen. But at least they're making moves for the next gen. How well that works for them, or their potential customers I can judge when the time comes.

I'm not personally speaking about the fan base, and what they're willing to accept. That's on them, and if they want to say it'll matter for this gen, as some are using this as a way to say the X1 is worth buying now, then I can't take them seriously because of MS past, and all the things I said above being true....because its unlikely these studio's games will run on an X1....unless they move the X1X to the lowest common denominator for next gen....or they seriously hold back the games to support the OGX1.

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paintedgamer19842423d ago

A little late 3 gens in to finally be aquiring studios... i cant wait for sony to fire bombs back on this little xbox parade

Xb1ps42423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

@srhalo

So the grudge you had with studios that made multi platform games before Sony bought them is all over with now for you?! How long did that take?

It’s just crazy how cut throat some “gamers” can be.. very finicky bunch.. they can only enjoy a good game from a publisher as long as the developer isn’t established, it has to be from scratch and then expect it right away then expect it to be better than a established developers game such as naughty dog...

Why do you idiots ride so hard for one side?

chiefJohn1172423d ago

That's why they're called fanboys

Bobafret2423d ago

What I never understood is wasting time complaining about something they have no vested interest in, while attempting to make others feel inferior or stupid for not being on their team.

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Bane352423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Yeah long as they make good games now that they got more studios

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Former PlayStation Boss Says $80 Games Are Amazingly Affordable

PlayStation boss believes that $80 games are affordable due to the value they provide. Using Mario Kart as an example, he noted that it offers numerous hours of gameplay with just one purchase.

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jambola1d 2h ago

value inside the product does not have any impact on how afforable they are

Eonjay9h ago

He never said anything about affordability at all. He only commented about the perceived value that a game can have to a player that gets many hours out of it.

Again, as with many other forms of we are disrespected and lied to.

Title says Yoshida said $80 games are amazingly affordable. This is a lie.

CrimsonWing698h ago

Perceived value is subjective, so how do you even argue for it? If one person says $500 was worth it because they played a game for six months, what does that mean to someone who didn’t share that experience or see that value?

This is exactly where corporate thinking falls apart. The value is defined by them, and then they twist the logic to defend it from a purely internal, out-of-touch perspective.

I’ve never based the price of a game on how long I’ve played it. There’s a standard price range that consumers feel is fair. If it were truly based on time or value, Resident Evil 2 Remake would cost $20, and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth would be $1,000.

Eonjay6h ago

@Crimson

"Perceived value is subjective, so how do you even argue for it?Perceived value is subjective, so how do you even argue for it?"

I think his point is that it is subjective.

thorstein4h ago

Why is tech4gamers allowed to publish here. The lying is constant with them.

pwnmaster30001d 2h ago

I get the concept.
People buy movies for $20-$30 dollars that offers only a couple of hours of enjoyment.
While games offers 3-10+ times the amount of hours and content.
So in theory yeah I get it.

But I will never accept it and would rather keep the price now or even better PS360 price lol

isarai1d 1h ago

On the surface ye that makes sense, but when you realize the budgets are very comparable, you realize it's kinda stupid and overpriced especially when it common for it to be released unfinished

Extermin8or3_4h ago

Not really, movies that have similar budgets have the box office where if they arent a flop- they typically make all their money back or a profit. Movies have a much wider audience. Games however just have that release and have a smaller market.

PapaBop3h ago

Are many people buying movies for $20-$30? Outside of the more dedicated movie goers who have a physical collection, I imagine most rather scoff at that and stick to things like Netflix instead.

DivineHand1252h ago

You also have to take into consideration that most games are enjoyed by one or two people, while movies can be enjoyed by a group of people who are either friends or family.

Another thing is that the value of an entertainment product cannot be judged based on its length, but how it makes the user feel when it is all done.
An example of this is Ubisoft games. They can last close to or exceed 100 hours, yet many people hate on them for doing things to pad the length of the game, while Uncharted 4 and other Naughty Dog games average about 15 hours in length and are hailed as some of the best games of all time.

gold_drake14h ago

said by the guy who probably had a high 6 figure income

Eonjay2m ago

He never made the comment. Welcome to the internet.

Petebloodyonion9h ago

The value of an $80 all-you-can-eat buffet is undeniable, making it curious why some people choose a $20 restaurant for a single, standard meal.

In a similar vein, movies, despite their higher production costs for a two-hour experience, outperform video games in revenue while also being priced around $20. Suggesting that video games need 100 hours of diluted gameplay to compete seems like a misdirection. The real solution might lie in re-evaluating how their core offering is valued.

Extermin8or3_4h ago

Individual movies yes, the movie industry as a whole? No, the movie industry is dwarfed by the behemoth in terms of revenue that gaming is.

FACTUAL evidence9h ago

Lol so rich people want to speak for my wallet now? I still haven’t adapted to 70$ yet, and not planing on to. I don’t mind waiting on sales.

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy011d 2h ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN5h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga4h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6383h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein2h ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

crazyCoconuts3h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark14h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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Rogue Trader producer reveals his dream project: a CRPG SCP game with an actual budget

Owlcat Games producer Anatoly Shestov reveals his dream project: an SCP game with Owlcat RPG flair and a proper budget.

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