For all of their groundbreaking innovations, Sony has sometimes copied its competitors to succeed, and these are 5 times Sony unabashedly copied Nintendo.
Interesting list. I would definitely count All Stars as a "unabashedly copy", the rest though I would just say following popular trends that most all companies do.
agreed. Everyone added rumble after nintendo, everyone went for motion controlls too, It would be like saying nintendo copied sony Because playstation went to disc instead of cartridge, because sony added a second joystick nintendo did, Because MS had a built in hard drive sony did. Because Sony did bluray MS did, etc etc. It’s all industry growth for a lot of it
"It’s all industry growth for a lot of it" Definitely a better way of putting it.
Haha I thought Sony made psone before Nintendo ever did... Crazy what misinformation can lead to
Iirc the Move controller was in development way before Nintendo came up with the Wii. Also other companies released retro consoles before Nintendo.
But Sega released their own mini retro consoles years ago. So, Nintendo copied Sega.
Samsung is just copying Bell with that phone stuff. At some point, technology just moves ahead. Praise those who help move it forward.
Actually, Nintendo would be the first to release a mini console themselves. Those who think the atari flashback or the mini genesis count... they count in terms of being mini consoles but neither of which were released by the actual parent company. So no it was not Atari or Sega that did those. They were released under license by them but not released by them. Flashback was AT Games and the mini Genesis was by Radica. Quality of the emulation in the former units paled in comparison to actual hardware but unlike those the mini nintendo consoles actually do have the look and feel of the real thing because its made by the real company. Sony is going that route with theirs instead of what Sega did recently with At Games again. Now Sega knows the error of their ways and will be doing their own.
@Darth That honor would actually go to SNK Playmore with the Neo Geo X Gold. Unlike the minis, it actually allowed games to be added trough cards. The system was licensed to Tommo to distribute, because SNK didn't have the means, but otherwise, they were the ones that wanted to make it happen for their Neo Geo Brand. SNK itself pulled the system after a year, to which Tommo disputed the pulling, but through that, it's obvious that SNK had control over its release. Nintendo then "unabashedly" copied them, to which Sony "unabashedly" copied Nintendo. Also....these other licensed systems don't count? LOL. OK. Why? because Nintendo made a system with less games on release than those consoles, sold it for as much, and ended production almost as soon as it started. You know those licensed systems that don't count, have sold more than the collective entirety of Nintendo's mini systems right? Nintendo had them release, and it was really popular. That doesn't mean the others don't count. Making something popular doesn't mean they came up with the idea...but in respect to the topic at hand, it doesn't mean that Sony copied Nintendo, since that was probably their primary inspiration to try and make their own mini. Respect for making something popular and all, but give credit where its due.
@rain, i never said they didnt count, I only said they werent made by the parent company. Like gravdigger said... nintendo copied sega when they did not (when it comes to the mini console). Oh yeah, the neo X... that's another one that was done under license. Tommo made it and got SNK on board to use the name and design the fancy exterior shell but otherwise it wasnt really an SNK product. at least not like the Mini neo geo we have now. Credit where credit is due but the comment about nintendo copying sega was wrong because sega never made their own mini console. just trying to correct misinformation.
Nope. SNK Playmore had Tommo make the device, so they licensed it to Tommo. SNK sought out Tommo for the license because they didn't have the means to make the device themselves. But the idea for it was on SNK, and them wanting to make something to help it's brand more.
Modnation Racer is also inspired by Mario Kart.
Mod Nation Racers in VR would be so cool. And designing your own tracks.
Oh yeah you are right. I hope the bring it back. I don’t care what anyone say, but there are enough space for more than one great kart racing game.
yeah, because only nintendo can do brawl games
Who was the first one to make it popular? And as of right now, if you wanna play team brawling game, which on do you think people will go to? There is nothing wrong with getting inspiration you know.
king noctis, playstation all stars, aside for the genre, is a lot different than SSB
Yeah, that's a very generic way of putting it. All Stars wasn't just a brawler, they took everything that made Smash popular and just added some minor differences that actually sucked.
I wish All Stars was a straight copy, its gameplay wasn't as fun as Smash.
I dunno if i'd call PSASBR unabashed. There were years of people saying that Sony should make a similar game before they finally decided to do it. I know Nintendo was first to come out with the concept, but it wasn't like Sony was all over the idea. First Smash Bros came out in 1999, and PSASBR came out in 2012. that's quite a separation for Nintendo to have the only game like it on the market. It's a copy sure, but no more unabashed than any other game that has come out after another game established a genre for it. I'd agree with the rest of your statement though, although the mini is probably kind of unabashed, but only because of the timing....although Nintendo wasn't the inventor of the concept.
"There were years of people saying that Sony should make a similar game before they finally decided to do it." True, but that doesn't make the game any less of an unabashed copy of Smash Bros. Doesn't matter how long in-between it took for All Stars to release after the first Smash, it was still a copy of Smash Bros in every way possible only adding some minor differences in the gameplay to maybe differentiate itself a little. "It's a copy sure, but no more unabashed than any other game that has come out after another game established a genre for it." Doesn't really excuse it though does it? Sony wanted their own Smash Bros type game, nothing wrong with that, but if it talks like a duck and walks like a duck.
Hmmm...so I decided to look up the definition of unabashed "not embarrassed, disconcerted, or ashamed." While I'm sure Sony was none of that, so yeah, we can say it was unabashed, the actual context of this term seems to imply that it was something that they should be embarrassed, disconcerted, or ashamed to have copied from Nintendo. To me, I can't see any possible reason why they'd have to be any of those things, and people trying to shame them because of it being a copy, seem to do it on the premise that Sony somehow jumped on some major trend to cash in on a hot market....like we see with the PS Mini right now. But given the time frame between the first smash, and PSASBR, I just can't see that being a jump to cash in, rather a jump to provide a product that many people said they wanted. And why does Sony need to be excused for copying Nintendo over this? Do we have to excuse every game that was established by another? How can you say there is nothing wrong with it in a paragraph that implies we have to excuse it? You're making a conflicting statement here. And I see no ducks here....just a game, in a genre that Nintendo created, or at least popularized, that Sony spent years neglecting, and looks like it'll be neglected in the future.
"And why does Sony need to be excused for copying Nintendo over this?" You're reading that wrong, you're the one making the excuse saying that just because others have done it that it's okay for Sony to do it too. "Do we have to excuse every game that was established by another?" Again, we're not talking about every other game, we are specifically talking about things Sony copied from Nintendo. We could be here all day naming other things that other companies did but that wouldn't really be the point here would it. "How can you say there is nothing wrong with it in a paragraph that implies we have to excuse it? You're making a conflicting statement here." I say? You said this not me, I think you're looking into this way harder than you actually should and coming up with your own interpretation on what I said. You had to look up the definition of unabashed because I am sure you were already on the defensive coming into this article. "And I see no ducks here..." Then you're voluntarily choosing to be blind and again it doesn't really matter how long it took Sony to come out with their own version, it was definitely based on what Smash is.
I'm not excusing it, I'm saying there is nothing to excuse. I'm saying that what Sony did, is no different than what has been done countless times in the past, and that doesn't need defense. We don't see every game coming out saying that it's a copy of its precursor. The only time we see that is when people try to put the game down because they want to fan boy things up. It's how its always been, and no one goes around trying to imply that Nintendo copied other games in the creation of their staple IP's. We don't go around saying every platformer somehow copied Mario Bros, or how ever top down action RPG somehow copied Zelda. Or we don't say Nintendo copied the companies that actually made those games before them. If you think what I'm saying is some form of excuse to defend Sony, then it's you who are making into something that needs to be defended. "we're not talking about every other game," Sure, we're not, but in this case, how is this any different than any other game, and why should it be considered shameful for them doing so? If we dono't need to excuse all those other games, why do we need to make excuses here, and if I don't need to make excuses, then what is there really to defend? And don't try to pull the literal definition of the term unabashed on me, because we all know what the context is here. "You said this not me," No, I'm saying that there is no reason for sony to be criticized for copying here. "Then you're voluntarily choosing to be blind" No, I'm choosing to see you trying to make an argument that doesn't need to be made. Sony did nothing wrong, nor do I feel they did this game in a way that really deserves to be on a list for direct copies of things as if its shameful they did so. You're the one that said it's the only thing on the list that is an unabashed copy, I said why I didn't feel that way. You've gone from having a decent original post to suddenly attacking me as bias, and twisting around what I'm saying to something I'm absolutely not saying. I agreed that it's a "copy" in as much as any game in any genre is a copy of another, I don't agree that Sony somehow did it in a way that was shameful and worthy of being criticized. If we're going to do that, then I guess we can do it for every game. If it was on the heels of the first SSB, then sure, whatever, it still wouldn't matter, and it still would be only the fan boys who will care or make a fuss about it.
"The only time we see that is when people try to put the game down because they want to fan boy things up." If you say so, but this is just further proof that your intention with your replies is defending some type of fanboy rhetoric you have already established is happening here. I never implied or mentioned that Sony copying Smash was a bad thing, this was you. I never said that other games haven't done the same, these are your excuses in regards to me saying All Stars was a copy of Smash, something you also acknowledged as being true. "We don't go around saying every platformer somehow copied Mario Bros, or how ever top down action RPG somehow copied Zelda." Now you're over exaggerating because we don't do it for EVERY platformer or game, but we do say Gears clone for similar games, we do say Dark Souls clone for games that are hard or even take the same type of design Dark Souls made famous, we compare third person over the top action games to DMC and GoW, we do this all the time. So yes, All Stars can be compared to Smash and be called a copy because it took Smash's concept, design and gameplay. "...and why should it be considered shameful for them doing so?" Again, who is saying this is shameful?! You keep making up your own arguments and then asking me why. "No, I'm saying that there is no reason for sony to be criticized for copying here." No one is criticizing Sony. And I don't even view this article as criticizing Sony either. The real issue here is you're upset because this article is pointing out Sony instead of everyone else? As if there's some need for this to happen. This is seriously as bad as fanboying things up. "You've gone from having a decent original post to suddenly attacking me as bias, and twisting around what I'm saying to something I'm absolutely not saying." You're absolutely kidding me right? You're the one here dragging "other games' into the conversation, you're the one here saying that i'm *implying* that Sony needs to be 'excused' when I never said anything of the sort. You've already admitted that you thought this was some type of issue to fanboy bash, so please stop playing the victim, I was not attacking you. "Sony did nothing wrong..." Of course they didn't...why is this even a thing you need to point out? "I agreed that it's a "copy" in as much as any game in any genre is a copy of another," And I disagreed because that is a weak generalization on what it really is. That's like saying Doom is a copy of Minecraft because they're both in the FPS genre. All Stars took design, gameplay, concept and lifted them straight from Smash, so no it's not a copy as any game is a copy of that "genre". It's an unabashed copy is what it is.
OK. whatever you say gansta.
Nothing is wrong with companies using others ideas. That's how gaming moves forward. Something I like on the PS4 is share-play and the share button in particular, both of which Nintendo has on the Switch (though share-play is only on their NES titles).
I sometimes think that more copying of the good ideas should be done. It allows new ideas to come from those other ideas, which keeps things advancing. Every company can bring their own take on something, and hopefully, the good things stay, or get adopted elsewhere. Otherwise, I've never been one to say a company was wrong for copying another....so long as they do it for the reason of providing something for their customers. Cash grabs copies without much to offer I'm not that keen on, but I don't see a lot of that in the industry in terms of the hardware that we use to play the games, and is more on the software side of things.
Why do authors like this make it look like such a sin to adapt to industry trends?
Apparently when Sony does it, its a sin?
Twinfinite has been on a troll fest recently, let them get it out their system. Articles like these achieve nothing
5 Times Twinfinite made a decent article
I don't think that list would be possible to make
Could they fill up five different pages with content for that article? First one would be the actual article you posit....then what?
Atari and Sega had classic consoles before Nintendo did. Quality journalism as always twinfinite
Yes, but were theirs ever exact replicas only scaled down to a miniature size? The Sega clone consoles always SUCKED, Nintendo made it quality, and called it the ‘Classic.’ Come on, don’t sit there and tell me Sony would have made a PS1 ‘classic’ the exact way they made it all on their own.
Modnation Racers and All Star were definite copies of Nintendo's biggest sellers. No creativity and the gameplay was awful.
modnation racers was a LBP/kart game mashup, not a mario kart clone. as for playstation all stars, aside of the genre and the aesthetic, the game is different from SSB and a lot of fun
Modnation was actually pretty good. Also, what about Modnation was like Kart outside the fact they were both Kart racing games? Modnation seemed more aimed at copying the level creator success of LBP, than making a cart racer that featured a bunch of popular characters from the system. Modnation didn't even have many of the same kinds of kart racing that you see in SMK, and it wasn't a character ensemble game like SMK either. Nintendo didn't invent the Kart racing genre, and didn't even popularize it. Just because they have a popular Kart racer doesn't mean they get credit for it. Kart racing is one of the oldest genres of gaming.
Slow news day... or lazy journalism. Whichever comes first.
Nintendo didn't invent plug-and-play consoles. Get your facts straight.
Sony derived from Nintendo as much as Karnage derived from Venom lol
It was more than5 times.
Adapting to industry trends is considered a sin now? Smh.
0 times this guy wrote a good article
Nintendo have always innovated, if things would of went to plan the PlayStation would of been the Nintendo PlayStation. But Nintendo shot themselves in the foot with that one.
Ahhh Nintendo the great trend setter, shame they dont set the trend for compute power. Nintendo invented the wheel, its a true story i read it on the interwebs.
Imitation is a form of flattery
I dont know. Nintendo also copied some of these concepts. Business is business.
They openly admitted All Stars was inspired by Smash Bros tho so idk why everyone keeps acting like they tried to pass the idea off as original. Portable gaming is really getting liberal with the definition of "copy". The Move controller was an advancement of tech they were pioneering back in the PS2 era, they just saw marketability due to the Wii. Hardly something they just tossed out. And the mini "Classic" consoles started with Atari, with the Atari Flashback coming in the Early 2000s.
People just want to find a reason to make Sony look bad. Sony had no reason to be ashamed for their reasons to bringing the game out. People were asking for it for years before they started making it. Agree on portable. Sony and Nintendo always had different paradigms for their portables. Sony more copied Sega on this, and came up short of NEC on what the portables could do relative to their time. Move controller they started before Nintendo revealed their controller, but technically, Nintendo was making one first. I think at the time they started, its hard to say they did it because they were copying Nintendo. They were making something going their own route. One tech, two different paths. Agree on the minis. People are now trying to say that because Nintendo is the first to do it themselves, they somehow get credit....completely ignoring that SNK did that back in 2012. I do think Sony made their mini because of the success of Nintendo's minis, but at the same time, all these people acting like it matters in any way are really getting kind of stretched in their attempts to make Sony look bad for something completely normal in the industry.
pc also copy nintendo with motion controlls
I wish Nintendo would copy PSN or Xbox live.
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