The PS4 has been out for over 5 years now, and with Sony releasing an upgraded version, we ask whether it's really worth paying the extra price.
If you do not have a 4k tv, slim is fine. You are doing your self an injustice if you have a 4k tv and you buy the slim over the Pro.
Even if you don't have a 4k tv, performance modes are an automatic for me. If you don't already have a PS4 and the extra hundred bucks isn't isn't an issue, I don't know why you would get the slim.
I'd probably get a Slim if my base PS4 failed, and I have a 4K TV. The hardware is smaller, likely more reliable/ quieter, and that generational leap from now to PS5 will be that much sweeter. I just don't see the point of upgrading the hardware. I feel relative certainty that PS5 will enhance PS4 games beyond what Pro can do.
Generation is winding down, best to just wait on the new systems unless you got money to burn.
Plus supersampling actually makes a massive difference...
Pro is really mucb better.. you get HDR and performance boost on 1080p screen, which i think is the best setup. I played Horizon in 4K, but God of War in performance mode and it changed a lot.
@Skull521 My gaming addiction will not allow for that. If my console failed I'd replace my Pro with another Pro quickly. At the very least I would look into a used one if the 5 had a listed release date to save a few bucks.
@skull, does that logic also apply to xbonex as well?
Literally only reason to get the slim is to save money. Whether it's small performance bumps now or later they are worth it. Not to mention the super sampling. Even with the new consoles around the next year or two the pro will help the PS4 feel a lot less antiquated and give them buffer zone between the two gens. We also don't know 100% how BC will work on the newer systems so I think it's a safe bet.
Thejigisup, They play the exact same games, so I don't particularly care about how antiquated PS4 feels. Money is definitely a factor as you've stated, and I would much rather just reestablish access to my existing collection at a discount than upgrade my hardware just to play the same games I always have. It's a nice little incentive to play games in their premium condition, but I've never really been hung up on that stuff. Of all the games in my collection, Bloodborne has the worst performance, but still extremely pleasurable and enjoyable. I'm pretty okay with not upgrading. Like I said, it will make the transition to PS5 that much sweeter. Obviously, the gap between PS4 and PS5 will be bigger than the gap between PS4Pro and PS5. I see no reason to upgrade.
If my launch ps4 dies I am getting a pro even if it's just a minor performance boost. Don't really see why not if its just like 100$ difference. 4k or not.
same here. I was holding up on the Pro just because my launch unit is still working fine. I was THIS close to buying the Spider-man one but the store where I live can't get any unit of it so bummer... but yeah, if my PS4 ever decide to give up and die, the Pro is the only logical replacement for me.
I traded my launch PS4 for 165 when GoW came out and bought a pro. Essentially I only paid 235 for the Pro, and the rest went into biying 4 other PS4 games that I wanted.
I had the base PS4 and was doing better than I expected on my 4K TV. I would notice some jaggies and washed colors but overall it was fine. I was pretty against the Pro but that Spiderman PS4 pro made me eat my words. NO regrets. I've noticed big improvements in GoW and Horizon. Spiderman looks awesome on it too
Haven't seen that much of a visual difference but the performance stability over the base ps4 has been totally worth it, especially on my 4K tv.
I can't really agree with that. I got a 4k TV first then got the pro. The difference between standard and TV upscaling Vs 1440p upscale is minimal. Not many games run true 4k on the PS4 pro to get excited over its 4k capability. It's a tad sharper. But I wish I stuck with the standard and put the cash towards an X to see if that was any better with performance.
IMO HDR is a much bigger deal than 4K, and the OG PS4 supports HDR now.
You can find the slim model for $270 new in some retailers that still sell the 500GB model
there is no wrong option , but if you have the extra cash go for the PRO even if you have only an HD, that multi-sampling option will do wonderful things to your games for a HD only TV ;)
thats what i have done its sitting under a 32inch 1080p tv which i sit quite close to due to small room, looks lovely. not to mention it was designed for VR. would you believe its (the pro) code name was "neo" while the psvr's code name was project "morpheus" no chance that's coincidence, It runs vr ever so slightly faster. it has ever so slightly quicker loading times. it improves 1080p games with slightly better smoothing. it comes with 1tb hard drive as standard. all small things, but if you can get a deal on one or a bundle with a free game I say its worth the extra. especially for vr and even if not, will probably hold value better if one day you want to trade it in.
Wasn't the vitas codename trinity too? I believe it was the vita, dont quote me.
There's no proof that Pro was designed for PSVR. It just happens to play it better as a more powerful system would do. The fact that the base PS4 also plays VR, and quite well, and the controller was built with the LED that no one knew was for, means that Sony was thinking about VR and motion tracking way before Pro. Code names are just that: code names. And as milo said, there was also a code name trinity presumed to be for a vita update http://wololo.net/2016/04/1... A poster joked that trinity died, but so did neo. Morpheus is the only one that lived.
So, if we're going on the idea that Sony patterned their hardware after Matrix the movie, then it means Neo (PS Pro) dies, Trinity(PS Vita) dies and that only leaves Morpheus alive. Meaning VR is Playstation's future. It's ridiculous that gamers are reading into the code names as fact that Pro was only made to push VR. When base PS4 plays VR fine. It's like saying Pro was made to push HDR when the base PS4 does HDR too. Way to use your heads people. I love my PSVR, but I'm not going to read into a code name as fact unless Sony stated that's what they did. Whatever.
@Milo I think trinity was an unofficial code name. It's official code name was some sort of acronym which I can't recall. Based on when the Vita launched, it predated the neo and morpheus nomenclature. OGPS4 was code named Orbis, which meant orbit, as in a planet. Not sure why it was picked or what kind of metaphoric significance it had. @Purple I don't think the Pro was designed specifically for VR. I think it was designed more to support some kind of 4K. It does run VR better, but Sony hasn't said anything specific about what they did to improve VR through it.
I had both, a slim and pro version and IMO the pro was worth the extra money. I ended up selling both recently those peeps got a good deal and I got a lot more $$ than selling to gamestop. If you're trying to find a good deal, let it go or offer up are good places to search.
I doubt there would have been any mid Gen upgrades without psvr, I don't think it's a coincidence that they released around the same time.
pretty much the only reason i picked up a PRO over the slim was the optical port on the PRO. Now ive got a 4k tv so it also makes the PRO more worthwile now.
Optical port? You mean a port to connect an optical cable to enjoy surround sound with an AV receiver? The PS4 Slim and base PS4 have it too, even the PS3 has it, and so did the PS2 (even though there were only a handful of games that had cutscenes in DD 5.1)
The Slim does not have optical
Don't think you could go wrong with either one. Games still look good on OGPS4, but the pro does give some faster loading times, and the supersamping is nice on 1080 screens. I guess it really just depends on how much money one wants to spend on entering the generation. But if they have the means, the PS4P isn't much more than the OGPS4, and I think one would be more satisfied with the PS4P in the long term.
Exactly, I have been mainly a PC gamer, but I couldn't miss out on PS4 exclusives anymore (GoW really pushed me to my limits). I got a PS4 Slim bundled with 3 awesome games (UC4, HZD, and GoW 3 remastered) for half the price of a PS4 Pro (it is quite expensive where I live), and used the rest of the money to get other exclusives. Best decision in my entire life; can't imagine myself not playing some of the best games released this generation.
I'd still prefer the PRO if I was buying a PS4 today, that extra performance bump is pretty nice (plus I can still hook my headphone amp up to the PS4 with the optical port), and if you have a 4k TV it's gravy.
If you haven't bought a PS4 yet, nothing else will change your mind. You have missed out on way too many exclusives.
Its also a good time to pick up some oldie but goodies on the cheap.
It makes sense for some and pro makes sense for others . Boring articles
Black Friday will have the pro with 3 games included for £299, so I'm getting that nxt month plus the trade in value twds ps5 next year will be better. Do I need a pro not really but my launch model still looks nice but sounds like a rocket after half hr (enough to fool the retailer while they test it for 5 minutes) and I can get £117 trade in price with the pro bundle (so £180 cash) plus I'll get 3 good games in the bundle saving me more money (hoping for a fifa bundle with assassins creed odyssey and another game) so all in all its going to cost me about £100 cash for the pro taking into account the 3 games I get which I was going to buy anyway. They practically give away these consoles when you trade in your old console plus the games you were gonna buy anyway.
I own a GOW edition PS4 Pro and I really like the system. However if you don’t plan on gaming on a 4K screen the PS4 Slim is a much better choice.
Stop being cheap ass buy PS Pro. Next gen their will be PS5 Pro 2023.
It made sense to me to buy a PS4 Pro due to the fact that I get to see all the benefits the Pro offers when games especially Sony's exclusives are displayed on my Samsung 55 4k hdr tv.
if ps5 comes out next year, the pro likely will not trade in for much more.
It's not though.
2020 isn’t next year.
I wonder if the pro will have a longer life span than the ogps4, hopefully the cpu won't hold it back. Would be nice if ps5 comes out and you don't need it right away if you game 2k. But that damn cpu!
Only get a slim if: 1) Don't have the money for a pro. 2) This is a secondary console to only checkout exclusive and don't care about playing them at the highest quality. 3) Saving money knowing that in a year and half tops the new PS5 will be out.
Could be 3 years if the PS5 gets a 2021 release (which is what I'm hoping).
Either way you cant go wrong ps4 pro or slim
Coming from PC, I was used to playing games at 30+ FPS and above 1080p resolution, so the PS4 Pro was the natural choice for me. It seems kinda stupid to me, to buy a console(PS4 slim) that is outdated as soon as you buy it. But then again, I traded in an Xbox One for my PS4 Pro, so I got my Pro for about the price of a Slim.
Other than saving a few bucks it makes no sense at all
Clickbait website full of diarrhoea and rumours
if you can't afford a ps4 pro it makes sense .. if you can it doesn't.
I wouldn't dare click on that website, but I really think in early Feb 2019 Sony will send out invitations to the press for a special announcement exactly like they did with the ps4. The year leading up to the ps4 announcement the execs were super dismissive of the next gen, just like this past year, and then in Feb boom, its coming same year at Holiday.
I need to get my dad a slim so he can browse through the tv apps quicker than one button press every 13 sec.
I won't even click on the article. It makes no sense at all to buy a slim over a pro if you have the money to spend. You get performance modes and boosts with a pro on HDTVs.
I'm still stuck with the launch model it still works great so there's no need to buy either for me. Not to mention my PS4 backlog are big so I'd rather spend the same amount on games instead.
I might pick up a pro if there are any good black Friday deals. I had decided against it before, but we just got a new 4k TV, so I figure why not? Then I'll be able to make the best looking games this gen look even better.
Same boat as you, my launch model works OK (abit loud) last black Friday 2017 had the pro for £299 with 3 games (cod, gts and fallout 4) so I'm guessing they'll do the same. Euro gamer mentioned there doing something simlar with assassins creed, fifa and one other game bundled in on the pro at £299 plus GAME retailer are offering £117 for trade in of old launch model ps4. I'm going to get it just is case my ps4 breaks tbh plus you'll get a good trade in price come ps5 launch. Makes sense tbh.
The base model and slim have HDR so they are great even if you own a 4k tv.
this doesn‘t make any sense, blogger. you know there is a thing called 4k. when mom and dad bought you such a tv you will realize how outdated this pointless post was. thanks.
The 60fps mode in some games is why i got the pro. (Rise of the tomb rider for example)
Faster loading, better frame rates, boost mode, supersampling, optical port, much faster download speeds...on my OGPS4 it would never go faster than 100mb and would always be having issues where it would slow way down, on my Pro it downloads at 300mb which is my nets full speed pretty all the time! I was shocked to see it go that fast. PS4 is 1.8 Teraflops, PS4 Pro is 4.2... you would have to be stupid not to get the Pro imo. Oh and its got and extra USB lol.
I could honestly NOT go back to the old PS4, there is a big difference especially since I play a lot of PSVR.
My pro running on a 24" Acer gaming monitor 1080p looks ace. I swear GT sport looks absolutely amazing
does anyone know if the slim is as quite as the pro?
The only way it makes any sense is if you don't have a 4K TV or don't plan on getting one anytime soon. And even then, the Pro now has system-side supersampling, so you can still get the benefit of the higher resolutions (to an extent) even with a 1080p TV (there's also the increased/more stable frame rate). If it was me, and I didn't have a PS4 yet, I would be buying the Pro instead of the slim even if I didn't have a 4K TV. The slim is a cheaper buy, but the Pro is a smarter one, IMO.
You can find The pro highly discounted at times that it doesn't cost much more than the slim, why wouldn't you buy the more powerful machine and if you have a 4k TV and even a psvr it's a no brainer. Slow news day obviously.
If u have a small tv, slim is fine
Even if you you don't have a 4K tv with supersampling, performance enhancement the Pro makes sense to me, and especially if you use optical which I think Sony removed in the slim model.
If I didn't have either, I would get a pro. However, my original ps4 is solid and I dont feel the need to upgrade. Very happy with the og system.
If you have a 4K TV and the money, the Pro is for you. And you can find it at good prices in these days. Under Christmas even better, so... But if you want the Slim, it's still a very good choice.
Considering the pro doesn't really have that many advantages, especially when a lot of their games still don't reach true native 4k compared to the competition, I would say a Slim is definitely better worth the purchase.
It doesn't matter if you have a 4K tv or not, If you can afford the Ps4 Pro get it! If you can't handle the extra $100 then the Ps4 slim is a great buy. The Ps4 pro offers much better performance, not just 4K resolution. Better Framerate is very important. People who are saying only get it if you have a 4K t.v., don't