Xbox Live is one of the original online services in console gaming. While the service is great, there are a few things that need to change to bring the service in line with the competition.
I'm not sure what a policy issue has to do with how good Xbox Live is. No one was criticizing PSN for cross play because that was a policy issue not a service issue.
This piece is lame.
Yeah, the article title doesn't match what the article is saying.
“Xbox Live Gold Is Good But Needs To Improve“ Not locking F2P games behind a paywall would be a good start.
I agree. While I didn't wish for any service to have a subscription requirement just to play online, FTP games should always be completely free to play. If Xbox fans complain enough maybe they can change Microsoft's policies on FTP games.
I'm pretty sure these days, u can be a Playstation fan and complain to change Xbox policies just like how Xbox fans were able to change Playstation policies.
@kreate I don’t think Xbox fans on N4G changed Sony’s policies. I believe it was a joint effort between gamers (in general) and publishers that helped Sony change their policies. Mind you crossplay was never the issue it was crossplay with the competitions systems that bothered them.
That's the first thing listed in the article. It's redundant if you need to pay to play "free to play." It's an issue that needs to be addressed.
One step at a time. It took MS a bit to finally open up things like Netflix and internet explorer and youtube to silver members. F2P games are likely next.
Agreed! That is the most important place for them to start. One could argue that most people already have XBL Gold anyways so it's not a big deal, but they'd be missing the point. Free is free and Gold should not be required regardless.
Liqu1d, if there's anything you'd like to talk with me about now that the discussion is relevant to F2P games here's your chance... but please don't call me a hypocrite again because you assumed too much.
Lol, you try to hard. You're a hypocrite and posting this one comment purely to try and defend yourself does not prove otherwise. Everyone knows you guys won't kick up a fuss about free games being behind a paywall because MS can do no wrong.
Thanks for the response, Liqui1d, but you try too hard not to believe that people can be objective and still prefer one console over the other.
How about not locking any games behind a paywall?
I know right? Ms gotta step their game up
Oh look, it's Dark Voyager with something negative to say about the Xbox...again. I wish this site would link to active gold and ps+ accounts so you could only comment for those systems you have an account on.
Or maybe moderators here should actually do what they’re supposed to be doing. Enforcing policy that’s set instead of picking and choosing then playing favorites.
So lets ban all comments in articles I don't agree with. Apart from being unworkable, it sounds like sjw logic fgs. Yeah lets have safe spaces here on n4g, what a joke lol.
@TheUndertaker85 What he is saying is right out of the article. So agreeing with the article is against policy in your mind? lol.....this place would be a ghost town you and ZXC had your way.
“I wish this site would link to active gold and ps+ accounts so you could only comment for those systems you have an account on.” That’s part of the story? I’m intrigued a story about Xbox Live is now about N4G specifically as well. I’m missing any mention of N4G policy at all! Can you point it out for me? Maybe show me the quote! “Posting Guidelines Site moderators have the rights to delete comments from members who are unable to behave in a mature and respectful manner. Name calling, trolling and personal attacks on other members can result in temporarily or permanently restriction from posting comments.” http://n4g.com/site/comment... So known trolls, including yourself, break terms every day. As I know you don’t like to partake in good news for Microsoft yet here you are in a Microsoft related article. Avoiding the story and topic. 🙂
I'm referring to DarkVoyager's post, the subject of ZXC who you were responding to. And you have no room to call anyone a troll. You troll just as much as anyone here. LOL...you are the one who is making this about N4G's policies. That isn't the topic at all. Are you calling for your own ban? BTW....I'm a MS customer and a huge advocate of the greatness that is Playground Games, Forza Horizon, and Game Pass. Regardless of all that.....I'll post where I damn well please.
As if once upon a time Facebook access on the system was behind the paywall. XBL Silver was a thing but quietly phased out. MS's been considering the service angle from day one with the only indicators that its the wrong way to go being when they tried and as soon dropped fees for PC, then the reverse with the XB1 launch.
“Xbox Live Gold has always been a requirement to play games online, one of the big pushes that PlayStation had during the early days of the PS3 was that their online was completely free to use. Unfortunately, PSN at the time was very insecure and a large hack knocked it offline for a prolonged period of time.” Xbox Live also got hacked, even moreso than PSN last gen. https://www.eurogamer.net/a... https://www.theverge.com/20... https://www.lifewire.com/xb... https://www.eurogamer.net/a... Xbox Live also had an 11-13 day outage during the 2007 Christmas season. Microsoft later gave away Undertow as compensation for XBL’s outage. http://www.internetnews.com... https://www.engadget.com/am... https://www.eurogamer.net/a... Xbox Live was not the perfect service then, and it was even more apparent since you had to pay for it. “To PlayStation’s credit, after that, a lot of resources were funneled into the service, and when PlayStation 4 launched with mandatory PS+ membership for online play, the differences between Xbox Live and PS Plus were almost unnoticeable.” There were still many things PSN did that XBL didn’t during the 7th gen like not locking half the functionality of the console behind a paywall and allowing consumers to play region free digital content.
This isn't an argument of which was better. Plus in your argument you completely gloss over the 23 day outage that had over 77 million accounts information exposed which many would consider a huge breach. Neither system was perfect, but Xbox Live had the better reputation last generation. Plus the focus of the piece is to improve Xbox Live, considering neither PSN or Xbox Live have these issues anymore it's a plus for all of us.
Yeah but the article made it sound like being a paid service made it a better service. Even though XBL’s outages and hacks last gen weren’t as severe as PSN’s they were still present and on a paid service at that and shouldn’t be neglected. If you talk about the issues with one service it only makes sense to talk about the same issues present on the other service.
Are you really comparing those with the PSN hack? A hack that had their network out for a month? A hack that Sony apologised us for and gave us two games because of it? A hack that led to Sony being found guilty of negligence and fined for not doing everything they could to protect their costumers information including credit card details? I don't know if I should laugh or facepalm myself.
Get rid of F2P with gold paywall. That's not F2P but Free when Paid
they should all get rid of paid MP honestly. We are sharing servers with PC Players, who don’t pay a dime, no one should have to pay for MP at all anymore but yes, FTP shouldn’t have paywalls
Exactly. We are paying (well not me) for the "priviledge" of accessing servers they do not provide or maintain aka every third party game that we pay for. It boggles my mind how we came to accept such a disgraceful anti-consumer practice that exists only to line up the pockets of multi billion $ companies.
I think Microsoft will get rid of the pay wall for f2p games soon but I doubt any of big 3 will get rid of a subscription fee since it's already too deep into them making alot of their income from it. Only way I can see it happening is if Microsoft does it first which they can because they obviously can live with a loss from that and would force the other 2 to follow suit. The problem with this though is a double edged sword because say it does happen, then u can expect tons of micro transaction to be added into games to make up for all of this in my opinion.
Gamepass should be the new Xbox live gold.
I like that idea. Online play is free but the sub gives you the game pass. That’s fair in my view but no board member would ever agree to that. That’s throwing money in the toilet to them.
Maybe they should bundle both together at a reduced price. That would sell very well.
Xbox has services on lock. That’s not their weak spot. Nintendo could learn more from Microsoft online services wise lol. The current Xbox weak point is games production and promotion. Brand new franchises from newly acquired studios made for a new platform. That would be taking a page from Sony and who would blame them? Good I say lol. Steal the good methods, that’s fair game.
True, i think the online pay should be free and Gold should be a service covering Game Pass and Games with Gold.
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