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Doge21d ago

Holy crap.
They actually listened!

uptownsoul21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Yup…Switch & PS4 now allow cross-Everything play AND do not lock access to this online, free-2-play game behind a paywall.

Nitrowolf221d ago

And now we sit and wait for the
“Sony is to late” articles

Kribwalker21d ago

Yep, now MS needs to drop their Paywall on free to play games.

Eonjay21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The next articles will be demanding Sony to release its exclusives on Xbox. In all honestly though, a great response from Sony once again showing their willingness to work with the community. However, what we are really gonna see is a wave of those who can't ever be satisfied about anything. Fake rage can never be satisfied because there is no real issue to begin with.

darthv7221d ago

There should be no paywall on any F2P games. Hence why they are called Free 2 Play.

MasterCornholio21d ago

That paywall is just dumb in my opinion for FTP titles.

Lovable21d ago

I bet Kribwalker will not post multiple article about MS not dropping their paywall unlike what he did with this insignificant cross play

markzzbr21d ago

@Eonjay don't be ridiculous, kid. Control your brand adoration just a little bit to, a least, sound like a normal person.

badz14921d ago

OH NO! Sony, why are you taking the only bullet left in the xbox fanboys barrel?? without this stupid cross-play agenda, what else is there for them to use to bash the PS4? they were so busy fighting over this dumb thing they didn't realize MS was using them to cover up that they need XBLGold to play F2P games!

Suave_Langosta21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@eonjay your logic leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'll just ignore your claim of Sony "listening."

No one is going to cry about exclusives, if they do then they are idiots, just saying. Real gamers, ones whom are not blinded by loyalty can and do enjoy multiple platforms. I own all 3 major systems and enjoy the full spectrum of games, people should try this. Xbox is my main multiplayer system, playstation offers me my badass single play and Japanese market games while my switch let's me tap into Nintendos market.

I get some cant afford them all, and that's cool, I just dont advise being a blind loyalist in a industry that should be about togetherness and fun.

TheCommentator21d ago

And here I was happy I didn't have to listen to people defend Sony's anti-consumer practices anymore... but they just move the conversation to something else negative to say about Microsoft instead.

TheCommentator21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@ Eonjay

"Sony once again showing their willingness to work with the community?"

Why would you even say that? We've had so many articles about Sony not doing it that people didn't even want to hear about them any more. That's stubbornness, not willingness. Also, how is it showing willingness when Sony submitted to relentless consumer demands?

Liqu1d21d ago

There's TheCommentator showing how much of hypocrite he is. Sony refusing crossplay is anti-consumer yet damage controls MS being the only ones locking free games behind a paywall.

antz110421d ago

Lol but I thought ps4 users don't care about crossplay, or need it? At least that's been the mantra here ever since this issue with Fortnite came up.

starchild21d ago

Why did Sony do this? I was told countless times that crossplay is an unimportant feature that PS4 owners don't care about (even though I am a PS4 owner and do care about it). Many of these people even said they don't want crossplay because they don't want to play with gamers on other platforms. I guess those people will be unhappy with Sony's decision.

I applaud it. Crossplay is a good thing. It should consistently be encouraged no matter who is or isn't doing it.

TheCommentator21d ago

@ Liqu1d

"There's TheCommentator showing how much of hypocrite he is. Sony refusing crossplay is anti-consumer yet damage controls MS being the only ones locking free games behind a paywall."

Sorry, but the topic is crossplay on PS4, not MS hiding F2P behind a paywall. I'll tell you what, Liqu!d, you write an article about MS hiding F2P behind a paywall and I'll tell you why I think it's wrong...

ConsoleGamer21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Starchild

"Why did Sony do this? I was told countless times that crossplay is an unimportant feature that PS4 owners don't care about (even though I am a PS4 owner and do care about it). Many of these people even said they don't want crossplay because they don't want to play with gamers on other platforms. I guess those people will be unhappy with Sony's decision. "

Sony gave in to the MS and Allies introduced marketing (smear) campaign. It is unfortunate that they let the competition blackmail them into changing their business policies in fear of negative pr. Plain and simple.
And i'm sure that many who rooted against crossplay with x1 just were against the fact that ms, who is the most useless and lazy company of the three and most definately try to force sony, who did an awesome job this whole generation, to change their stance on crossplay under the guise of being pro consumer.

Ps
I wonder if these "journalist" who sided with ms by releasing article after article on how anti consumer bad bad sony was for not allowing crossplay with the competition and the gamers who spoke out against sony, now put in the same effort in fighting ms' paywall on free2play games. If not they will be outing themselves as major league hypocrites.

BlackTar18721d ago

I love the way you xbox guys pretend n4g represents the entire community of ps4 gamers and Sony is listening to us idiot's on here bickering in order to make the final decision.

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ZeroX987621d ago

YES!!!
We'll finally be able to play with some of my Xbox friends :)
if they can bring this to other games like black ops 4/fallout 76/BF5 that would be pure awesomeness

ZeroX987621d ago

wow @ the # of disagrees!
well there's always the option of disabling crossplay for users who prefer playing with PS4s only :)

spartan112g21d ago

Look at all of those downvotes for breaking down walls.

isa_scout21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I didn't disagree with you about console cross-play, but universal cross-play isn't a good thing if it includes PC players. I play PC sometimes, as well as my PS4 and if you guys wanna get wrecked by mouse and keyboard players in a competitive shooting game be my guest, but I think a lot of console gamers are fine with the way things are. You ever seen how fast PC players can equip attachments and manage inventory in PUBG and Blackout and that doesn't even take into account the clear aiming advantage that mouse and keyboard provide.

81BX21d ago

ISA has a point. I just got my 1st gaming PC. I've been playing heroes and generals. I went back to COD ww2.... it took me time to adjust. The controls felt sluggish and less accurate.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

That would be awesome. I hope they're really willing to go that far. I'm sure we'll have to rely on game chat vs. party chat, but that's fine.

ZeroX987621d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Quick reminder that Rocket league crossplay isn't activated by default, and my guess is nor will any game whatsoever, so if YOU don't enable it, you're just not affected by this change at all.

that's what so nice about this, people complaining about crossplay won't see the difference and us that wants to play with more friends can if we want to.

Good point about the KB/M, it can be a pain when against them with a controller :/

SierraGuy21d ago

Pure awesome with the mod tools available on PC to hack blops 4?

Last_Boss21d ago

Agreed 1000%!!! It would be like my Bad Company days.

sampsonon21d ago

And this is why Sony just put the first nail into their coffin.

this is the beginning of the fall of PS.

zodiac90921d ago

It's times like these when I question the point of having multiple consoles to choose from, if they all play the same games..

Suave_Langosta21d ago

God people disagreed with this? It's a good move for consumers and gamers as a whole. People should not be so loyal to brands, we as gamers should all be able to enjoy playing together regardless of platform. I'm sure there are ways to limit whom you will play with, for those who dont like the idea. I just dont get the negativity surrounding the idea of togetherness.

Liqu1d21d ago

Fallout 76 isn't happening. Bethesda were lying about wanting crossplay so they could bash Sony for something.

https://www.pcgamer.com/fal...

ramiuk121d ago (Edited 21d ago )

the problem is if you are on a ps4 pro and playing against a base xbox there is a huger advantage o the pro player due to draw distance,framerate,resolution etc.
the pro and x would be ok but gamers on the X would also have a huge advantage over a ps4 slim due to resolution,draw,clarity,framer ate .

ad a pc into it and will ruin the game

PoopsMcGee21d ago

@Zero

You're wrong. Rocket League IS crossplay by default and it sucks.

The option to turn it off is buried in a menu so the vast majority of players are in the standard crossplay matches with PC.

The only way I would tolerate crossplay is if it is reserved for private matches only.

Otherwise, IMO it will completely screw up competitive online MP.

Crossplay may be "consumer friendly", but it sure isn't "gamer friendly" (that is, if you're a gamer who cares about an even playing field for online MP)

rainslacker21d ago

Im still curious if this will allow you to connect directly with others on another network. It may just be random matchmaking at first. PSN and XBL both handle connecting players, and it takes a completely separate account on another network to match individuals....like you see in MMO's, with their own username database.

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DarkVoyager21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Finally. Now we don’t have to listen to Xbox fans anymore about not being able to play with PS4 gamers.

Doge21d ago

I'l let you in on a little secret.

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Linktothepast21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

"Microsoft confirms it's talking to sony about cross play"
https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

"Microsoft reveals Sony is blocking Fortnite PS4 vs. Xbox One cross-play"
https://www.theverge.com/20...

"Sony 'still isn't listening to gamers' about cross-play, says Xbox exec"
https://www.cnet.com/news/s...

NoPe, nO SmeAR caMPaIgN tHEre AT all.

Let alone the fanboys!

CarlDechance21d ago

@doge

oh.....there were quite a few xbox fanboys that wallowed in this like a pig in shit. Cross play articles brought them in droves. Don't fool yourself.

Doge21d ago

@Linktothepast

Where's the false accusations in those articles? Sony had several people that either said "it's a safety concern" or "because PS4 is the best place to play", which btw the latter is a fact considering their place in the market right now.

Facts were reported from interview sources. This is like calling out Trump's bigotry a smear campaign.

@CarlDechance

You say quite a few, and yet a good chunk is making it out to be the majority of gamers who weren't okay with Sony's policy to be an Xbox fanboy. Like yeah no shit you'll see fanboys running amok, but the fact that people were using that as a crutch to deflect the main issue was what drove me up a wall.

A platform's fanboys that's close to be in 3rd place in the market will not, and never be able to discredit how much of a massive success the PS4 has been to Sony. No matter how hard they try.

spartan112g21d ago

Finally, we don’t have to listen to Sony give out tone-deaf press releases.

CarlDechance21d ago

I'm not talking about a majority of anything. Fanboys are never the majority, they are just the loudest.

bluefox75521d ago

@Doge You might be able to make the argument there was no smear campaign by game journalists, although that would be pretty flimsy, but fanboys? That's literally all they do.

Doge21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@CarlDechance

Dude they could be as loud as a wet fart for all I care, and people here STILL saw and blamed any negative press Sony got for their horrid PR as "an issue brought up by Xbox fanboys".

Doesn't matter who, what or where. It was all just either Microsoft or Xbox fanboys. Like, y'all. Epic's game was being held back on the biggest console. Accounts were being locked out from being played on other consoles. People were legitimately upset that this was an issue.

Like, come on man. I wanna see more games do this. I don't give a rat's ass about some dumb console war :/

@bluefox755

Dude, they're literally reported facts from PR, verbatim. How is that flimsy?

I'm not trying to defend fanboys because I know how much of a nuisance they are. But it isn't fair to have an issue completely ignored just because of some garbage trolls. I sat through this exact same crap when Sony launched the PS4 without being able to capture footage with a capture card. I don't need to see this again. Be it cross-play, PSN name changing, or even 1440p support for PS4 Pro (which god please make it happen).

CarlDechance21d ago

"Dude they could be as loud as a wet fart for all I care"

Dude....you just got through saying Xbox fanboys didn't engage in a smear campaign and now you are saying you don't care if Xbox fanboys engaged in a smear campaign?

WTF, man? You are all over the place. Done with your nonsense.

Doge21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@CarlDechance

Then go ahead and follow the general consensus (on N4G Dot Com) that only Xbox fanboys wanted cross-play and all the media outlets were on Microsoft's payroll. Because that sure as shit what it's been for the past year and change.

It's fake outrage apparently.

👋

Obscure_Observer21d ago

@DarkVoyager

"Finally. Now we don’t have to listen to Xbox fans anymore about not being able to play with PS4 gamers."

Yes. And we´ll don´t have to listen that PS4 owners don´t care about crossplay or that crossplay would hurt Sony´s business either!

Sony has sided with gamers and casted a mute spell on haters!

Great job, Sony!

EmperorDalek21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Yeah I'm against this, I don't want to have to put up with toxic Sony cultists passing themselves off as "gamers". Don't even know why they'd play Fortnite, I thought only exclusives count as games to them.

Dragonscale21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@doge, so there was no negativity from the fanatx over this? So we must have imagined it all then. Talk about denial lol, its all they've been banging on about for months now fgs.

Why o why21d ago

Let's see the same energy on free to play being 'free' to play on Xbox. . . . I bet it won't be a fraction despite it allowing more players to play against. . .🤔

Neonridr21d ago

are you kidding me? What about all the articles from devs themselves saying crossplay should be there. I remember Epic, Bethesda, Psyonix and plenty of others all saying it should be there.

sampsonon21d ago

and sony just lost future $$$$.worst move they cold ave made. MS's xbox isn't the companies main stay, ps is sony's an they've just given a potential sale away.

investors must be supper happy.

NXFather21d ago

Somehow I doubt that but, I see the /S in the hidden script.

DragonbornZ21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Linktothepast

Some of you need to get out of your little fanboy bubbles.

Epic, Psyonix, Bethesda, Studio Wildcard, Blizzard, etc., have all shown an interest and/or have pushed for crossplay; all of them I believe except for Blizzard acknowledging Sony as the limiting factor.

You need to stop only paying attention to whatever reenforces your narrative.

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lxeasy21d ago

Finally! Looks like gamers won

Ciporta198021d ago

Actually if they had listened then they wouldn't be doing it because most ps4 owners have been fairly vocal that they don't want this. I really don't want to have to listen to the whole my console is better than yours argument while trying to play games thanks.

spartan112g21d ago

You throw away the bad opinions, so it’s good that they weren’t listened to.

Kribwalker21d ago

other than on this site, the majority of voices out there were Pro Crossplay, Even Resetera was upset that it wasn’t happening

Vizigoth0421d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I think Sony will allow you the option of your PS4 enabling and disabling Crossplay to a certain degree. And filters of course when enabled. This on top of Sony thought process with consumer protection with the use of child accounts managed by the parents.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

@Ciporta1980

"Actually if they had listened then they wouldn't be doing it because most ps4 owners have been fairly vocal that they don't want this."

Lol. So you think Sony made this decision only to please Xbox and Switch owners, while making most PS4 owners pissed off in the process?

notachance21d ago

just because some fanatic fanboys being vocal doesn't mean that's what the majority wants

and there's over 80mill ps4 owners in the world, surely you don't think n4g users are representatives of the majority?

Neonridr21d ago

I'm a PS4 owner, I am happy they did this. This really benefits the smaller titles with less servers/gamers. Means they don't have to split their resources and can save on costs. Also means that games may stay online longer.

Nobody was worried about the Call of Duty's or Battlefields.

rainslacker21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I think most of the vocal dissent on not wanting it was more because people were getting tired of the constant articles about it, and how Sony was evil, or arrogant, or whatever else a thesaurus gave some author of a blog for the week.

Cross play is a lot like BC. Most didn't seem to care if it was there, and thought it'd be a good feature, but most never really saw it as a must have a feature.

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Sm00thNinja21d ago

Not gonna lie Eonjay the exclusives releasing on Xbox got me dead 😂

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Awesome News for all gamers around the world!

Realms21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Damn Sony you are so anti consumer stop it oh wait they are not, I guess enough PS gamers wanted it after all so they made it happen. MS fanboys are going to have to find something else to complain about. LOL

Nu21d ago

This is good for us all. Nintendo now needs to get their online infrastructure up-to-date