When talking of consoles, LIsa Su says AMD has a "vision of where cloud computing is going" and it's going there with Microsoft.
Interesting to see where it goes from here
It seems Sony is also working on a major infrastructure/cloud update in time for PS5. https://mobile.twitter.com/...
Just one comment in and you're already jumping off topic while bringing up Sony... Anyway, I agree with the OP, it will be interesting to see where it goes. If Microsoft can bring streaming to the masses regardless of device/platform, that will be big.
But I thought "cloud powah" was a joke. Which is it?
They already have Now. One imagines that they are going to expand the tech they already have.
Cloud means subscription... @Bobafret Its a joke when they tell you its gonna make your Xbox one “3-4 times more powerful”
Wtf does sony have anything to do with this??????
Timotim I'm with you on this but I think if you look at what Microsoft are doing this gen you can see them bringing things together and also offering lots of options. I think going into next gen we may see pc and Xbox closer than ever. I can see them offering a gaming streaming service on pc and Xbox. Game pass on both to although maybe just exclusives depending on if 3rd party's will join. We will also see a console to buy upfront and a console on 2 year contract at X amount a month. Lots of great options there and if they can keep the most powerful console each gen and backwards and forwards compatbilty Microsoft will have a lot to come out the gates with next gen.
i could see them allowing the current xbox ones convert to streaming boxes when the new gen starts. No one left behind
Yeah there is no reason with the s and x can't do that esp if the Xbox Y (what ever it's called) is also meant to be backwards to the x and s (well maybe not the s) but time will tell and none of us really know what Nintendo Sony or Microsoft will do next.
Whenever I hear the two words cloud and gaming together it's an automatic NO from me dawg
Haven't we heard this before?
Seems like companies did not learn a single thing from the last 5 years and want to be punished.
They probably learned a ton and that is why they are working with the hardware vendors. There have been many times in the history of computing where software solutions are tried, but they find out software can only do so much so you have to start working with the hardware vendors to fully achieve your goals. A perfect example is graphics cards. They put all the graphics functions into software at first and just used CPUs to do graphics. Then, they found out that software and the CPU could only do so much, so then they started to create separate graphics processors to replace the software and offload from main CPUs. That's how computers can get to 4K now.
Maybe in the last 5 years the tech has gotten better, and maybe when this finally releases it'll be in an even better place than it is today.
According to the article AMD says the fruition of this new tech (on AMDs part) is about 3 to 5 years away. I don't see the next Xbox taking that long to release. I think people are confusing this with streaming. Or the Scarlet streaming box may come out in two years and then this new cloud service could be added to it but it won't just be for the streaming box. Their dedicated hardware box will be able to pair with it to.
Problem as of right now isn't really the tech, it's the internet infrastructure surrounding its implementation, coupled with people's hesitation to actually use the service in the mainstream.
Seems like it's still their primary focus. Will likely be passing on Xbox again next gen, especially if they continue to release games on PC.
When are you going to get that Microsoft doesn't care if you buy their peice of hardware...only that you are apart of their gaming eco system. PC, console, streaming, Game Pass, physical, digital...it doesn't matter...it will all be under Xbox. And if you are passing on their console next gen due to them making a streaming service, then shouldn't you pass on PS5 for already making PS Now?
you're using logic, you should know better than to use logic on this site.
Not really what he meant I don't think. If MS is going platform agnostic and someone has a good PC why buy an Xbox? For the games you cant gt on PC, which will be none. Why buy an Xbox. For all those games on PS4/5 that aren't on PC or Xbox? Now there's a reason to buy a PS4/5. If everything is available on everything what choice do consumers make? Cheapest price will drive the Industry and we all know what happens then. A monopoly by whatever company can afford losses for the longest time. That does not bode well for consumers in the long run because that's when we all get inferior products, support etc. etc. I would rather spend my money on whoever gives me the best product and who delivers the experience I want. I will support a company if I respect what they do and what they stand for overall (none are perfect as they all need to make a buck). Not just games but food, clothes etc. I want to keep my freedom of choice and be at peace with it. Sorry for the rant just getting a little tired of all this my dad can beat up your dad BS.
people just don’t get it. It’s the same with all these sales talks. MS doesn’t care if you buy there game or play it through gamepass. Otherwise they never would have put their new games on gamepass. They are both a way for people to join their platform and have more users in their eco system. Same can be said about playing their games on PC. If they didn’t want you to play it on PC, they never would have released them on PC. I think streaming will definitely be the cheapest model of next gen systems, but i’ll go traditional with the high powered versions
They've already said cloud gaming as an alternative not the way most gamers will play
I personally very interested in their rumored low-cost next gen streaming device. It will be interesting to see what they might announce next year.
"Seems like it's still their primary focus." No where does it say that's their primary focus. But I understand why some would make it "seem" like it is. "...they continue to release games on PC." So, does this mean what now? That you'll be getting their games on PC instead of Xbox? Because that's a win for MS. Or you won't get their games because they're also on PC? Because that's just stupid.
"especially if they continue to release games on PC." That part. Totally agree brother. That's the only reason I won't buy an Xbox next gen.
well they will be happy for you to join them with any part of their eco system, that’s why they release on both platforms 😉
Microsoft doesn't care what platform you buy their games on is why xbone is practically irrelevant. Think ms care more than some would have you believe.
Microsoft didn't learn a thing from the Xbox One always online debacle. They obviously want everyone to accept a subscription model like their Office365 products. I will pass on this like every other gaming subscription idea. The death of the Xbox brand is imminent if they keep insisting on this.
It's time you guys stop being hipsters and let things happen. . . People complain about always online but 99% of you complainers are exactly that always online. . And as far as the subscriptions it seems to be working in every other industry real lol y dont see how it's a bad thing in gaming especially since you'll more than likely have a choice. The cloud is gonna be a big part going forward whether its streaming or as Microsoft promises years ago cloud compute it's coming dont get left behind.
Always online gaming is shit. Literally shit. Actually shit is more useful than an always online game (that costs 60 usd), when your internet fails. I play offline 99.9 percent of my gaming time,
Do boycott all the movie/tv streaming services as well? You still using VHS?
DVDs and blu ray or TV don't exist anymore do they?
Different products with different expectation going into it - this argument is inane.
ALWAYS ONLINE, I wish they had kept it, i hate having to sit around waiting for on a update on a game i want to play, at least with the always online it would have been faster.
MS and Sony clearly talk to each other about their plans.
I have to agree. Just seeing the similarities in designs and features for both consoles at the start of every gen has to suggest they talk.
I think they all talk. Devs like to know what they're gonnae be working with. Plus you can only get certain hardware at the console price point, so they have a rough idea.
Xbox seems to be a few years late to streaming
I thought MS had this all figured out 3 years ago? No? Hmmm, I was sure their cloud was going to make the Xbox 5 times more powerful for some game they were promoting. Must have been a dream.
They did and do have it figured out, but where are all the games that where to run on it.
Confirmed!, MS next console is screwed then! lol
I'm with gamerzero just want the system and disc, no subscriptions and fees.
Cloud gaming is going to be an option but not the main feature (at least not on Sony or Nintendo). Until everyone has a dense, stable, constant and fast internet connection, cloud gaming will not be the main function /feature of gaming consoles (taking here about Sony and Nintendo because Xbox can probably go there again as with the first plans of the Xbox one)
Agreed, people forget that Internet sucks in plenty of places. Just because YOU live in a populated area and pay 130 bucks a month for Comcast doesn't means it's available everywhere.
Sony experimented with all digital before Microsoft did in the handheld/console market. Nintendo has games running solely via streaming with no physical version available or even possible. They’re also trying to find more ways to justify their new online services and have even stated internally they believe streaming alternatives to be a larger part of their future. Sony is also pushing services like PS Now, PS Vue, PS Video, and other streaming only alternatives. Sony also purchased Gaikai which is very much linked with the aforementioned streaming services. Meanwhile how many titles stream to Xbox One or PC with no download alternative from Microsoft itself? So the two that you mentioned that won’t already are and will more heavily in the future. What’s worse is there’s more evidence to support both of those console manufacturers leaning toward streaming. Plus what this story would say is that Microsoft is looking into streaming while still working with physical hardware manufacturers insinuating that Microsoft is looking at hardware and software, not one or the other.
You are taking about the future which is totally uncertain. My comment is about the present. Until everyone has a stable and high speed connection, cloud streaming will not be the main feature of a console. It can be an optional feature.
@thundercat77 and Theundertaker85, you both have a point, but isn't that what MS has been working towards a technology and software that is low on bandwidth, that would allow connection no matter your internet speed, i could swear blind that's one of the goals which Phil Spencer mentioned in a interview, ( Technology that allows flawless connection no matter the internet speed)
Omg! Are they still taming about cloud bs?
Da cloud! Pfft.
Hopefully Sony isn't. Xbox One was supposed to be cloud gaming, and it's not.
more of the "games as a service" BS - They want to saddle people with full price games without actual material to sell.
You mention game as a service, what's wrong with that, let's look at it this way, take Spider-Man game it better had sell 80mil, because God of war hasn't, because the hardcore gamers have it and the others are waiting for it to go down in price, now with games as a service you are spending less and you have a choice of owning the game, how many games can you completely in a month via games as a service vs how games you buy in a month and complete what's the total cost. On game pass, which is not upto speed yet, but once more and more 3rd parties allow day and date you will see this grow, NETFLIX, AMAZON PRIME, HBO, these are all service providers, Matt Boothy said we are still buying studios, not necessarily AAA but AA, why because MS knows for this to work they need alot more studios and that they are doing, putting things in place.
You don't have a game if your internet connection goes down. I.E. gamers are paying monthly prices for games they can't play. As long as we have a choice then it's alright; but, let's take a look at Fallout 76 (no choice), Shitty Destiny 2 for 60 usd (no choice), The New COD, Overkills Walking dead (no choice) and on and on - To automatically assume there is going to be choice is absurd, when looking at today's gaming publishers and here's looking at Nintendo as well. At any rate, there are completely different expectations with movies and games.
I've high speed fibre, ps now still lagy, and definitely no good for online gaming.
It's takes 2, SENDER to RECEIVERS, bandwidth input output, if your server output is too high then lag and vice versa, this is why MS said they are working with the partners to create technical that will help to balance bandwidth issues.
Cloud power was never a joke. Where do you think Rain comes from. Mother Nature is True power. Cackdown 3 isn't good.
We are in a technology arena, we can't stand still without pushing boundaries, what was almost possible a year ago is now possible, the only thing that evolves faster than mother nature is technology.
Meanwhile, Nintendo's showing results with current tech. Running Graphic intense titles on the Switch.
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