NVIDIA RTX GPUs: Ahead of Their Time or Insanely Overpriced?

Despite NVIDIA’s hype surrounding the newest line of graphics cards, they’ve been met with a significant amount of disagreements.

[Pyrofire95]

I think RTX is amazing and literally the future of rendering not only games but movies but I feel like the next series will really refine the tech. The cards arn't out yet but it seems like even the 2070 be a little under power for what people might be expecting rtx to perform at.

That would be at full RTX rendering a scene tho since RTX can also run some elements with ray tracing like reflections or shadows as well as DLSS.

tldr: wait for them to come out cause they cost like a whole bit coin.

[Tapani]

What do you base your opinion on? There's no concrete data before the review embargo gets lifted. We only have non-concrete results from Nvidia, and it's the usual marketing mumbo jumbo you have repeated just there. I'm sure the cards are fast, but you are simply repeating what the company said, because there is nothing else to reflect on.

[Profchaos]

2070 will make every title shine right now and with no real major big budget titles promising to push graphics forward I think it's fine

[playnice]

Even if ray tracing is the future of real time rendering I wouldn't be surprised if this tech gets implemented without Nvidia cards sooner or later and I doubt green team is gonna be suddenly dominating even more the competion because RTX. Just like hairworks... Looked good when it came out but it killed performance and arguably by the time it ran well there were very attractive alternatives.

[VJGenova]

"Insanely overpriced."

There I saved you effort of reading this opinion piece.

Now let's wait for it's actual release and some 3rd party benchmarks before we make our conclusions.

[Noclos]

I don't care for some lighting tech, we need a real boost in hardware or people are just paying for double price of GTX, just for ray tracing which will affect the FPS.

[CyrusLemont]

Honestly it just seems like a way of sidestepping more powerful GPUs so they can milk their consumer base longer before next gen consoles arrive and thus demand a higher baseline for power to achieve 4K/60fps visuals. They still have to offer their user base something new without being “too powerful”.

[fingazblank]

Not overpriced, but we will have to see. Considering a titan sells for the price of the 2080ti (no more titan???) i think its fair (nvidia always over charge anyway, but your getting the best cards, much better than amd)

Ray tracing will be the future. Wonder what AMD's Response is

[Cobra951]

AMD doesn't have to respond at all, yet. They have the big-2 console makers sewn up for the near future, at least. Nvidia hasn't established ray tracing as any kind of must-have yet. If games can't have ray tracing AND perform BETTER than they already do, it will be a steep hill for Team Green to climb.

[Cobra951]

It's insanely overpriced. That's my conclusion, and has nothing to do with this op ed.

(1) The price jump from the 10 series hovers around 50%. That's enormous. That by itself should give everyone pause. But it gets worse.

(2) Nvidia does not seem to care about comparing like for like this time. They are downplaying how much better existing games will perform with the 20 cards. They seem intent on pulling everyone's attention away from that, and toward ray tracing, which no one properly supports yet. Why? Is it because the performance increase is too small for existing rendering methods to merit the whopping price premium? Very possibly. Only proper independent benchmarks will nail this bad boy down. We have to wait for them.

(3) No fundamental new technology feature has ever worked satisfactorily in its first iteration. The first generation is baby's first steps. Walking and running come later. Tests of the ray-tracing feature so far show a heavy performance impact from having prettier reflections on everything. If the goal is a 24-fps demo, it will work brilliantly. If the goal is 60+ fps gameplay at 1080p, let alone 4K, not so much.

[Gh05t]

Neither.

Its a new to "mainstream" technology but it has been around for a long time even when talking about games there were articles saying ray tracing was the next big improvement for years. Hell NVidia has been working on ray tracing tech and demoing it for a decade at least.

By accepting this statement "Some say the 2000 series GPUs are bumping up a notch – the 2070 is like the 1080, the 2080 is like the 1080 Ti, and the 2080 Ti is like the Titan. That’s fine, but it doesn’t make the GPUs any less expensive." That also doesnt make them over priced since lets look at "historically speaking" (with more than ONE YEAR) shall we?

Titan Black: $1000
Titan X: $1000
Titan Xp: $1200
2080 Ti: $1200 (Founders) $1000 (MSRP)

780 Ti: $700
980 Ti: $650
1080 Ti: $700
2080: $800 (Founders) $700 (MSRP)

780: $700
980: $550
1080: $700 (Founders) $550 (MSRP)
2070: $600 (Founders) $500 (MSRP)

So again neither.

They are new, and expensive just like we had when the 10 series rolled around and lots of people said just buy used 980s and If you have a 980 no reason to upgrade. This happens every time, its usually a marginal jump of 10-25% increase If you can afford it, go for it. Otherwise wait 2-3gens and then upgrade.

TLDR: Nothing to see here the same crappy articles every GPU release.

[MWH]

BS and full of it.

[Gh05t]

Which part?

The part about Ray tracicng being old as hell...

http://n4g.com/news/184068/...

Or how about even older with IBM using some tethered PS3s

http://n4g.com/news/33982/p...

Or the part about accepting that each card is an upgrade, because that is a direct quote from the author of this article accepting that as truth (I didn't think I would need to post a link to this article but if it helps you out I will)

https://www.spieltimes.com/...

Or the part about the cost of the cards

700 series with prices in chart:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

900 (800 was mobile only)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

10 series...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

20 series...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

Or is it that we get articles saying the tech isn't worth it?

(May God forgive me for posting a polygon link)

https://www.polygon.com/201...

So you can call BS all you want but at least l tried to do the research before I spouted my mouth off unlike you and your full of BS half assed POS comment.

[MWH]

Saying it's not overpriced is insane. List all the sh!t you want and suck up to nvidia all day long it is still overpriced and every rational person knows it. end of discussion.

[plmkoh]

It's pretty clear Nvidia are drunk on the crypto price rush, but with crypto now waning on demand they are trying to find new ways to appease their new found taste of rip off prices.

It is also very cynical to even announce a 2080 simultaneous to 2080ti on the series start. Again clear that the 2080ti is actually the 2080 and the 2080 the 2070, clever use of marketing naming has them artificially lifting the price ceiling.

[riibhu]

Both.

[adonisisfree]

They’re ahead of their price , and strangely over timed

[amazinglover]

They should have made the RTX line separate for animators and those that need it and left the GTX line as is people are not going to want to pay a premium for a gaming feature that may not be supported and may hinder performance some. I know better drivers will improve performance and so any bench marks seen right now and for the next few months won't be an accurate reflection of that they can do but it still worries me that they will not give people hands on before they release without a bunch of restrictions. If they where as confident in it as they say they are we would be seeing benchmarks from some prominent you-tubers but all we get are controlled demos.

[FlyingFoxy]

The reason it's priced so high is because this tech obviously is more of a showcase for now.

Rumoured benchmarks are making it seem like the 2070 card will be a bit slower than the 1080Ti, in the past you could pretty much guarantee that the next gen xx70 card would at least be on par with the previous Ti, well usually. This time that doesn't seem to be the case, likely because rather than put the cash into raw power, it has also go on the Ray Tracing side of it.

The cards after these on 7nm should be a lot better and hopefully cheaper, the thing is now that Nvidia have set such a high price point for these new cards the next gen might only be £100-£200 cheaper and they would end up looking a great deal to some, when in fact it would just be a ploy to set higher prices and keep them there.

I can afford a 2080Ti but a grand on a GPU is insane, the 980Ti now looks like a relative bargain considering you could pick one up for below 600 quid at the time. Now the Ti cards have practically doubled in price.. in just 3 years!

[Tzuno]

More like a scheme to rip you off.