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How Losing the Gen to PS4 Could Make Microsoft Favorites for the Next

Twinfinite writes "The latest innovation from Microsoft, Xbox All Access, in combination with its incredibly attractive Netflix-like Game Pass program, is particularly impressive. In fact, it might just tee them up for prime position in the inevitable ninth generation battle for supremacy."

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PiNkFaIrYbOi44d ago

Hmm, unlikely until they actually release games consistently and even than it won't help them on the world market really.

b163o144d ago

Lol, I'm willing to bet they drop another Forza, and oh gotta throw Halo in there, and for good measure like also add a Gears to that line up for there NextBox...

Atticus_finch44d ago

Another Forza would be an understatement. More like 4,5,6 more.

gamer780444d ago

because their other new studios won't produce any games... they are obviously aware of the exclusives issue and bought/created studios to address that. Their policies, features, and controllers best ps4's, but they currently lack in the exclusives, if they can fix that they have a decent shot.

Imortus_san44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

The same Way Nintendo as Mario (170+) and Zelda (70+) at launch on mostly every new console (13) consoles, at least Gears was not at launch on any console and they only have 5 up until now, only 1 on Xbox One, just like Halo only got one new game at Xbox One.

riibhu44d ago

Wiiu flopped. Switch was a success. It's most successful games are Mario Odyssey and Zelda BOTW. I din't see anyone complaining when "another" Mario or Zelda was released...but only when it's Microsoft do we see the usual comments "another halo,gears lol".
At least wait for next gen you don't know what might happen. Could be successful, could be disastrous for Microsoft.

sonarus43d ago

Don’t sleep on Xbox they have a lot of money behind them and experienced ppl in the game industry. Microsoft lost this gen because they attempted the same formula they worked last time

kreate43d ago

They really gotta change the name. Can't be Xbox One F or crap like that.

They gotta chill w the shooters and make some RPG games, or other unique games.

They really gotta embrace the Asians. If they ignore the growing Asian market, they will yet again, fail the next generation or break even.

They gotta start making their own games instead of buying multi-platform games and making it 'exclusive'.

The console needs to be a gaming rig, not a tv pass thru machine.

NextBox needs to be consumer friendly, it absolutely needs to be able to play offline.

On top of all this, they can throw in their usual halo, gears, forza.

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FTLmaster44d ago

MS seem to be putting infrastructure in place to develop games for next gen. It's entirely possible for MS to bounce back. They just need to stop relying on the same ol' IP constantly.

Seraphim44d ago

and yet they did the same thing going into the 360 by purchasing studios and exclusive deals for software. How quickly they forgot that software is the cornerstone of any system. Perhaps this time around they'll hang onto those studios and continue to grow as a developer. But they've pulled this once before so I'm not buying it until prolonged support is shown, not touted and talked about.

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DogJosha43d ago

Pretty much this. Since PS4 has a simple architecture this time, they lost their easy Japanese support since Japs prefer to make games for Japanese systems. The west tends to prefer making multiplatform games, so now they have to rely mainly on their own ability to spit out games. They would have probably sold me a system with games like Scalebound and an HD Fable, but they have let everyone down time after time. Combine that with the fact that they have proven with the Xbox and 360 that they don't support their systems at the end of their lifespan, and Xbox One isn't looking any more promising. I've owned an Xbox and 360, but I think I'm completely done with them. It sucks since Sony's competition is no longer forcing them to compete so we are now seeing Sony doing a halfass job now and still managing to be the only option between the two. I got high hopes that someone like Sega, Atari, or even maybe Google would take Microsoft's place and create some competition again, but I don't see that happening either.

Inzo44d ago

The problem is that that infrastructure is already in place, 4 of the 5 studios MS acquired were already working exclusively for MS. Why werent they utilised, also, the hype they trying to create with these acquisition are smoke and mirrors just like how they are trying to use cross-play to deviate from the real problems they have.

yomfweeee43d ago

You can't just buy a studio(s) and then that's it. Microsoft has bought many studios over the years and they put out duds.

KickSpinFilter43d ago

MS has put alot into a bounce back for next gen. But what happens if they bounce back into a full speed Locomotive.
Only time will tell.

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crazyCoconuts44d ago

I get that necessity breeds innovation but MS certainly didn't NEED to lose before innovating. I'm not as optimistic for MS next gen because I really don't think they're far ahead in any strategic area. The Game Pass is pretty easily replicable (add download to PS Now and add more recent games), the streaming stuff Sony is already ahead of them on, and in terms of IP, MS is just starting to plan for not looking as embarrassing in 3 years. None of these areas look like a real strategic advantage next gen.

timotim44d ago

For Sony to replicate Game Pass, it would require for them to Re work their whole approach...something they have shown no signs of wanting to do. It means they will have to think of PS Now as equal from a first party perspective right besides retail and digital. It means that both PS4 AND PS5 games hit the service day and date as retail. Good luck with that from Sony.

In terms of Streaming...PS Now has actually gotten worse over the years as Sony has removed platforms from the service and with Sony stance on cross play, it means that Microsoft could have the clear advantage...we already know streaming is coming as announced at this years E3.

And I wouldn't say that Sony is ahead of Microsoft in IPs as Microsoft actually owns a ton of IPs...they just haven't been putting them to use.

UltraNova44d ago

"For Sony to replicate Game Pass, it would require for them to Re work their whole approach...something they have shown no signs of wanting to do. It means they will have to think of PS Now as equal from a first party perspective right besides retail and digital. It means that both PS4 AND PS5 games hit the service day and date as retail. Good luck with that from Sony. "

MS released Gamepass with effectively no must have "wow I need to sign up now to play games a,b,c etc" why wouldn't it work if Sony turned PS Now into the same thing? Actually, if anyone stands to benefit from such a model its Sony and Nintendo not MS.

"In terms of Streaming...PS Now has actually gotten worse over the years as Sony has removed platforms from the service and with Sony stance on cross play, it means that Microsoft could have the clear advantage...we already know streaming is coming as announced at this years E3. "

A streaming servive only gets worse if its a) more unstable today than it was back when in the start and b) if the feed quality and lag got worse. Truth is both areas got improved. So there's that. Cross-play is now a prerequisite feature for success? And streaming will be a good thing after MS enters the market? Jesus man...

"And I wouldn't say that Sony is ahead of Microsoft in IPs as Microsoft actually owns a ton of IPs...they just haven't been putting them to use."

Ehm what, seriously???

Congratulations dude, on perhaps the most "out of this world' comment of the week.

DarXyde44d ago

"And I wouldn't say that Sony is ahead of Microsoft in IPs as Microsoft actually owns a ton of IPs...they just haven't been putting them to use."

You seem rather unaware that the same is true of Sony, and it's even more considerable.

letsa_go44d ago

Must be a crapgamer disciple!

timotim44d ago

@Nova

Signing up to play games a, b, c is no different than how PS Now already works today...if the only difference is that now you can download said games instead of streaming them, then that's not really compelling and wouldn't move the needle too much. The difference is that with Game Pass, subscribers are not only getting classics to play, but current gen AAA and even newly released titles day and date with retail. That is what Sony would have to implement into PS Now for it to be a replication liked CrazyCoconuts suggested.

Also understand that PS Now wouldn't be competing with launch GamePass, but current day Game Pass instead, which is only getting better and better. If Sony is going to continue to use PS Now as a way to play previous generation games and not PS5 games, then Microsoft will continue to lead in that space.

In terms of your PS Now streaming argument...youre talking from a performance standpoint (which still produces tons of lag for many people), where as I am arguing its gotten worse in terms of its reach and the amount of gamers that could use the service. Again, Sony removed platforms that were compatible with the service, thus it's reach of a service got worse. We know streaming is coming to Xbox and Microsoft will look to expand the amount of platforms it streams to, thus increasing its reach over what PS Now is currently capable of. And yes...you can bet your ass that cross play will be even bigger next gen. We know where Sony stands on the issue...if I'm a gamer looking to take advantage of one of these services...im going with the one that has the most current gen games with the highest reach so that i can continue to play regardless of platform and where I'm at, on the service that allows me to play with the most gamers and gamers on other platforms...this is what Sony will need in order to replicate GamePass...

crazyCoconuts44d ago

I'm saying replicating GamePass isn't a technical challenge and if Sony wanted to do it, they could. Why they would WANT to do it is another story. Sony releases a good number of full price exclusives each year, and I'm guessing they'd lose money if they put all those exclusives on PSNow and only charged like $100-120 a year. That's equivalent to two games, and those users will end up buying fewer games in general cause they're apt to just play what's part of the service.

SolidGamerX43d ago

I would say Sony is ahead of Microsoft in IPs.

Retroman43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

MS actually own "TON" of ips they just haven't been putting to use. tons?? what tons of ips name them outside of same boring call of duty, gears, forza maybe titanfall. Sony has Tonage of ips MS "only" have pounds of ips get it right bub.

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Atticus_finch44d ago

Imagine all those sweet PS4 exclusives in there by the end of the gen. Download feature is coming, I have no doubt.

timotim44d ago

The thing is PS5 will be out by that time and Sony will still be using PS Now as a service for previous generation games...

timotim44d ago

Haha...I mean its not about it being a technical challenge for any of these companies...but more of a philosophical one. Sony doesn't see PS Now as equals with retail...Microsoft does. Sony can not replicate GamePass without viewing PS Now in this way. If Sony wouldn't "WANT" to do it then it mean PS Now will continue to be used as a way to play older titles only and a vast difference than how Microsoft uses GP...

crazyCoconuts44d ago

The point is STRATEGICALLY if Sony realized they were wrong and subscription models are the only way to make money in the new world, Sony isn't behind the eight ball because they have a solution ready. They're not really at a big disadvantage, which means that MS doesn't really have a big advantage. To turn the tides they either need something unique and not easily replicable, or for the competition to screw up...

Destiny108044d ago

Last place puts them favorites for next gen

alexgibson44d ago

Did ya read it man or did you just see a headline you didn't like and comment? And it's "Could" not "Does."

ImGumbyDammit44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Wii-U gets honors for last place. No skippies for Nintendo just because they sucked wind with their Wii-U and quickly replaced it with a new machine. The Switch is their 9th gen machine. Both Sony and Microsoft are currently tied for last (zero sales), well last place until they actually release their 9th gen console in a few years time.

As for Switch vs Xbox, Nintendo still has quite a way to go to catch up with the overall sales (especially considering sales of the device have already slowed - something that usually doesn't happen after the third year for consoles). VGChartz has the Xbox One at 38.1 million and the Switch at 19.54 million, PS4 at 81 million.

DarXyde44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

You speak so matter of factly. Does Nintendo know that the Switch is their ninth generation platform?

Curious to know if they've ever confirmed as much. Following your logic, it's their tenth generation platform, actually (Virtual Boy, anyone?).

Tazzy44d ago

Hmmmm funny you have information on sales of the consoles because Microsoft doesn't release sales numbers for their consoles I've been told and Switch has sold over 20 million not 19.54 Playstation has been crushing both. I can see Switch beating Xbox lifetime sales in the next 2 years with Pokemon and Smash Bros coming and the holiday coming I wouldn't be shocked if they hit 25 million or more by years end.

timotim44d ago

Technically Nintendo is last place in terms of units sold...

Tazzy44d ago

True but within 2 years all the sales of the original Xbox One the S and X will be outsold by Nintendo.

DeadSilence44d ago

Nintendo & Sony are Favorites but 360 showed that anything is possible.

Apocalypse Shadow44d ago

Only if you release a year to almost 18 months in front of your competitor in most markets. That's not ever to happen again.

TGGJustin44d ago

360 finished in third place worldwide.

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ43d ago

360 was not supported for almost 2 years before PS3 was not supported, wii is still supported...

PhoenixUp44d ago

Yeah it showed that even a console that can end up winning the North American market can still end up in last place in the worldwide market.

Ciporta198044d ago

Let's no kid ourselves if the 360 didn't have a >50% failure rate it would have sold alot less so 80 million is a bloated figure.

Quetzll43d ago

Hardware failure was covered by warranty. Pretty sure they don't count warranties in their sales. It's common knowledge that Sony is running things. No need to scrape the barrel for more ways to shit on Xbox.

We all better hope MS pulls some big moves. Ever seen what a company with no competition can do? It usually doesn't fare well for the consumer.

Ciporta198043d ago

@quetzll it was not covered under warranty from day one that took years of denial before that started to happen. Don't get me wrong last gen I had a 360 from launch and very much disliked the PS3 and I had zero problems with my 360. I even used to joke about how it's all made up. But let's not live in denial like ms did the rrod is definitely a major contributing factor for the 80 million sales. I mean I had no hardware fails and I still owned purchased 3 360's last gen.

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