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PlayStation boss explains why people aren't allowed to play with friends on other consoles

Xbox players can currently play with those on Switch, for instance – but nobody can play with those on PlayStation.

Update:

So the original source is now cited and the title's washed to an inoffensive, antiseptic sheen (by another mod/admin), with the Windowscentral link submitted as an alt source (by me).

I apologize for not jumping on this properly late last night. I preemptively focused on discussion and didn't go after report-worthy issues in a hasty manner. --coolbeans

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PoopsMcGee74d ago

"Sony plans on keeping its network closed off from others."

Good. Bring on the dislikes but I'd rather have online multiplayer keep at least some of it's integrity...

Hopefully this fad passes for all the companies and all will be well.

DarkVoyager74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

“PlayStation doesn't allow cross-play because its network is superior says Sony boss”

Actual quote.

“On cross-platform, our way of thinking is always that PlayStation is the best place to play. Fortnite, I believe, partnered with PlayStation 4 is the best experience for users, that's our belief. But actually, we already opened some games as cross-platform with PC and some others, so we decide based on what is the best user experience. That is our way of thinking for cross-platform.”

Sony is doing great with PS4 and they offered crossplay in the past while Microsoft turned them down. You reap what you sow.

coolbeans74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

"...and they offered crossplay in the past while Microsoft turned them down. You reap what you sow."

If this is considered such a blotch on MS's past--with virtually the same reasoning proposed by THEM back then--why would any of you be fine with it now? You're trying to have it both ways.

EDIT: And why does this vendetta-reasoning actually stick? You're basically treating a console rivalry like a mob feud.

AspiringProGenji74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

It is not a vendetta. It is that Sony has as much right to refuse as MS did before.

Jinger74d ago

Sony never reached out to MS for cross play. MS turned down a couple dev requests because they didn't want to jeopardize their users connecting to an unsecured network. Then lo and behold PSN has a massive data hack...

The situation back then is nothing like it is now. Nintendo and Sony and numerous devs weren't asking MS for crossplay like you're seeing today with Sony.

Not saying Sony has to, if they want to remain stubborn than so be it, but it is hardly a "you reap what you sow" situation.

AspiringProGenji74d ago

How convenient for them to say they don’t want to risk their network when PsN was hacked. It is not like that affects servers on PC. Besides it would have been the developers affected if anything

Demobot74d ago

You do know that ME offered to share XBL with Sony when they released it right?

WelkinCole74d ago

@coolbeans. Show me articles after articles showing how PS fans were angry when MS shut down cross play with PSN last gen when they were ahead.

Point is literally no PS fan gave a fu*k last gen. Same with media.

Now I can't stop laughing at all the crybabies now.

Obscure_Observer74d ago

@DarkVoyager

"Sony is doing great with PS4 and they offered crossplay in the past while Microsoft turned them down."

Sony actually never state that they wanted crossplay between Xbox and Playstation.

"You reap what you sow."

Yeah. It works both ways and you know that. Seems like Sony is back at their arrogant ways and i hope their current stance don´t turn back on them in the future

Sitdown74d ago

@WelkinCole

Do you even pay attention to the stuff you say? If literally no ps fan cared about crossplay, who was there a push last generation? Are you saying that the developers and workers at Sony are not even fans of their console 5 years ago. I mean if you want to defend your stance, at least do it without trying to be extreme with blatant lies.

gamer780474d ago

The difference is Microsoft has learned from their mistakes and changed course for the better while Sony is not learning and digging their heels in to their detriment.

timlot74d ago

"Sony is doing great with PS4 and they offered crossplay in the past while Microsoft turned them down. You reap what you sow."

Always bringing up Microsoft as if Nintendo isn't doing crossplay too.

Imalwaysright74d ago

"while Microsoft turned them down"

I have no idea why this lie keeps getting spread here. You guys can repeat that as many times as you want but you'll only fool the sheep that wants to be fooled.

Aenea74d ago

Yup, how they interpreted that quote into thinking he said the network is better is beyond me!

Skull52173d ago

If by superior they mean a whole generation behind the competition...

tombfan73d ago

Misleading title, like always.

DarkVoyager73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

For those in the who can’t seem to remember Microsoft not allowing cross play last generation for the same reason as Sony this generation.

"Xbox Live delivers the best entertainment experience unmatched by anyone else, with 35 million actively engaged members. We have a high level of expectation for our game developers to ensure that all Live experiences remain top notch.

“Because we can't guarantee this level of quality, or control the player experience on other consoles or gaming networks, we currently do not open our network to games that allow this cross-over capability."

https://kotaku.com/5813740/...

Imalwaysright73d ago

DarkVoyager

Where does it say that MS said no to Sony? Where does it say that Sony asked MS for cross play? Stop spreading lies.

Imortus_san73d ago

You are forgetting that major blow on Sony Network that lasted almost 2 months (almost 2 months with no online) and had millions of accounts hacked, lol, don't compare PS3 garbage of online that Sony had with whats today on PS4, because they evolved a lot.

Maddens Raiders73d ago

"EDIT: And why does this vendetta-reasoning actually stick? You're basically treating a console rivalry like a mob feud."

Because it's a mob feud. Always has been, always will be. MS has talked shit to Sony for years and years now, so Sony has been talking back.. Actually I think it's great for competition and only the most die hards of die hards would disagree. The pendulum swingeth.

NatFanBoyRestricted73d ago

Can't wait for PSN to get hacked again.

Aenea73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

@iamalwaysright

Okay, where is the evidence that MS asked Sony and Sony said no?

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@natfan

I can't wait for another red ring of death on Xboxes...

No, I do not mean that. In other words: don't be an ass....

Imalwaysright73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

Aenea

Evidence for what? Did you see me saying that MS asked Sony for cross play? Did you see me lying? Instead of asking me for evidence to something I didn't say shouldn't you be asking DarkVoyager to back up his claims?

Teflon0273d ago

I just want to note a few things.
1. For cross play to work, someone needs to extend the hand to agree and give it the go ahead. Square Enix tried hard last Gen to get both PlayStation and Xbox to cross play because they didn't want separate servers for FFXIV. Sony was fully supportive and wanted to. So that means Sony said yes and extended their hands, Microsoft said naw. People want to pretend like crossplay doesn't have to be an agreement between companies etc. For psn and live to connect, both Sony and Microsoft need to have conversations. So yes. Microsoft was the issue as SE stated they went with playstation because MS refused crossplay.

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AspiringProGenji74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

I’m not sure what you mean with keeping its integrity or if it really matters, but if Sony doesn’t want to crossplay with Xbox then they are on their right. Take or leave it.

They have allowed crossplay with PC and Nintendo since already so saying they don’t support crossplay is false. They do. They just want to remain competitive and not give MS any of their cake, and that’s Understandable.

Emme74d ago

You say crossplay is a threat to their market dominance and ability to stay competitive ?

gamer780474d ago

Just because someone has a right to do something doesn't make it actually good, both in this case and in life.

fathertime446473d ago

Sense when does Sony allow croos play with Nintendo?! They don't even allow you epic account to leave their Network

RacerX73d ago

If it's the right move for Sony, it is their right to do so. Time will tell if this hurts Sony's baseline, but I don't think it will... unless Microsoft revolunizes gaming next Gen (which I don't see happening either)

Personally, I'd like cross play because I have several friends with PS4, it would be convenient.

Zeref73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

what game has crossplay with Nintendo? There aren't working with Nintendo either.

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TheArkatek74d ago

B4 I say anything I have all the systems but PSNs service IS NOT BETTER THAN XBOX LIVE. PS4 Has the better games YES but XBOX LIVE IS SUPERIOR

The_Sage74d ago

Not if your talking about player base. Unless I'm playing with friends, Live has been a rocky experience. I run into allot of squeakers and immature a-holes. That's a rarity for me on PSN.

Aenea73d ago

Read the actual quote, WindowsCentral is spinning it....

TekoIie73d ago

@The_Sage

I didn't know the player base came with the service. Where is fewer squeakers advertised? Is Nintendo promising zero squeakers with theirs seeing as voice chat will probably be non-existent?

Sokol73d ago

Me and you must have different world console because they are both the same.
I disconnect sometimes from Live server as much as PSN.

Those are actual facts.

Vetgamer73d ago

I've played both and I couldn't fault either service. Both work as advertised.

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Akarogg 74d ago

Some of it's "Integrity"? Tf does that even mean?

PoopsMcGee73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

An even playing field.

Rocket League cross play sucks!!! And, worse, it's the default for online play (which, im sure, most games would probably do). It almost ruins the game for me.

-Foxtrot73d ago

Where is the exact word by word quote saying their network is superior...

extermin8or73d ago

You guys realise it's been stated MS require xbl to be like the network incharge if you will on any cross play games.... I expect this is a major point of contention and rightly so.

Zeref73d ago

That is false. Only Rocket League and Minecraft do this. Fortnite doesn't run on MS servers.

Kumakai73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

It’s complete bs dude. It’s PR spin and your buying it.

You sound brainwashed. What integrity does segregating networks provide?? Why is the ability to play the game you paid for with anybody in the world regardless of platform a bad thing?? Makes ZERO sense other than you’re drinking the koolaid.

They are making the decision for you on what they think is best for you - not giving you the choice to make that decision on your own. People railed on Apple about this mentality for years.

It literally costs them nothing to do this. They just want their player base isolated for control. If you want X you’re going to do it our way and like it.

SpineSaw73d ago

@Kumakia
You seem more than a little uptight that Sony won't give into cross-play. And you speak as if there is great demand from the PS4 gamers to cross-play with Xbox...there is not, there is none! We all made a choice when we purchased our consoles and we did it for different reasons and cross-play was not one of them. Gamers always have a choice and if you are anyone else that is a PS4 gamer and not happy that Sony will not bend to the will of Microsoft on cross-play move on as you have other console options. Many of us PS4 gamers do not want to be forced to game with other gamers on other lesser platforms it's just that simple. This CP uproar is fake outrage by Xbox gamers because it's something Microsoft needs yet where is the Xbox gamer outrage for all multi-plate games? Like if I was to ask how is the cross-play on Xbox and PC in PUBG or how about CP with Xbox and Steam in PUBG? ...Hummm no one ever talks about that....why? Fake outrage!

3-4-573d ago

Stop the lies. I have XB1, PS4 & Switch, and Xbox has always had the best and most reliable online multiplayer service.

Xbox has always had the upper hand in online multiplayer and it hasn't changed this gen. Just because Sony is winning at other stuff doesn't mean everything they do for the PS4 is better.

Saying Sony's online service is superior is an outright delusional lie. It's better than in the past, but I always consistently have a better online experience with Xbox live.

That being said....I haven't seen a noticeable difference between Switch online or PS4 online.

All 3 aren't that far from eachother. Closer than some fanboys would be willing to admit on all sides.

Switch/Nintendo isn't that far behind and I've actually experienced zero lag in my online games aside from 1 random match in mario mart 8 last year for half a match.

Will be interesting to see what everyone does next gen.

Baza73d ago

Xbox fanboys don’t like the truth! Downvotes everywhere!

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MastaMold74d ago

Title is misleading and it starts fanboy wars

Travis370874d ago

No that title is right, it’s what the guy said and he has a right to say it.

annoyedgamer74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

Its some high level snobbery. That's what it is.

Dark_Knightmare274d ago

No he didn’t really say that the title is def clickbait

gravedigger74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

Sony boss really didn't said their network is superior. Author of the article twisted his words. Btw. article wroted by ex ICXM author which was Xbox site.

Aenea73d ago

Nope, read the actual quote, he said "best place to play", not "best network", the title is incorrect, so is most of the article, but what do you expect from a site called WindowsCentral

TKCMuzzer73d ago

The title is not correct, it is not what he says at all.

jaycptza73d ago

Travis you can't read for shit mate. The Actual quote:

“On cross-platform, our way of thinking is always that PlayStation is the best place to play. Fortnite, I believe, partnered with PlayStation 4 is the best experience for users, that's our belief. But actually, we already opened some games as cross-platform with PC and some others, so we decide based on what is the best user experience. That is our way of thinking for cross-platform.”

Does not say their network is superior at all.

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generic-user-name74d ago

It's from windowscentral, MS are doing everything they can to make Sony look bad and distract from what really matters, the games.

gamer780474d ago

Microsoft had its turn looking bad and everyone called them out and they learned from their mistakes. Now that Sony is making the mistakes they are not learning partly due to blind fanboy support

Kribwalker73d ago

@gamer

i agree, we are heading back to Pre PS3 sony right now. Their arrogance is definitely showing

Srhalo73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

@gamer7804 @Kribwalker

Microsoft only changed because they were getting their asses kicked. If they had won you'd still have a $500 console that has always online blocks used games and trading strapped with a kinect that no one wants that can barely play games at 900p with no exclusives and GaaS as a focus.

Now compare that to Sony's one fault which is literally just not giving in too Microsoft on cross-play. Crossplay which Microsoft wants because they can't give away a console in Europe or Asia because Microsoft knows they can't get a foothold when no one can find matches for their games.

I don't blame Sony at all.

And Kribwalker don't pretend you even care about this issue beyond the fact you can use it to make Sony look bad. I ABSOLUTELY know for a fact that if Microsoft was blocking Sony you would be supporting Microsoft exactly the same way Sony fans support Sony.

Kribwalker73d ago

@halo

i’ve been arguing for crossplay since Madden 2004 on my PS2 and wanting to play with my friend on his xbox. Whoever is holding it back should stop. Whether MS or Sony or Nintendo

Srhalo73d ago

@Kribwalker

Talk is cheap.

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Shiken73d ago

Agreed. Him saying PS is the "best place to play", is no different than XBox ads saying the same thing. He had a poor choice of words sure, but the media is obviously putting a spin on the comment. In no way did he come off as a snob or over confident.

He simply said that they view Playstation as the best place to play and there is no need for it. In a sense, he is right. They have over 50% of the market share right now and unless other big games outside of Fortnite and Minecraft have Switch and X1 cross play, all of this will blow over by the time the PS5 comes out. And if they make the PS5 and PS4 crossplay within their brand (unlike the PS3 and PS4 outside of FFXIV), then the PS5 will have 50% of the online market out of the gate as well. No publisher is going to ignore that, Sony knows what they are doing.

TKCMuzzer73d ago

Correct, typical video game click bait reporting.

What he is technically saying is this, we are in a strong position, we don't need to open ourselves up at present , which means we can control our business at our pace without knee jerk reactions. We have been here before and opened our arms but others were not obliging, we are not just going to turn around and say yes because others have screwed up.
We will do whats best for the PlayStation business in the long term and not just think about now.

trooper_73d ago

Crap articles like this should be banned.

Kiwi6673d ago

But then there wouldn't be many articles for people to squabble over

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Doge74d ago

Ew. That’s some Don Mattrick level spin.

Kribwalker73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

they change the source of the article because they say to use the original source, then they don’t change the title to the original title now?

“FORTNITE ON PLAYSTATION DOESN'T HAVE CROSS-PLATFORM PLAY WITH OTHER CONSOLES BECAUSE THEY ARE WORSE, EXPLAINS SONY BOSS”

is the title that it got changed from to what it is now........i guess they are allowed to change the article titles now

Aenea73d ago

"i agree, we are heading back to Pre PS3 sony right now. Their arrogance is definitely showing"

What? Sony's arrogance is showing because an executive says that he believes the PS4 is the best place to play?

You can't be serious? MS plasters "plays best on Xbox" on every single ad they make! You're hilarious!

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"well there have been independent studies that have said MS network is superior, so they wouldn’t be lying then ( https://www.polygon.com/201...

That article contains "Microsoft shared the results today" so it wasn't exactly independent huh?
Also if you read the actual report you will notice several silly things as the Xbox only uses 1 button to log in and PS4 is a 2-step process, I mean what now? I rarely have to actually log in to PSN, it happens automatically so why the heck is speed of that important? And 2-step is much safer then a single button press.
Then there's the loading times. Really? Since when are games loaded from the network and not from local disc? Login to game servers, what you mean the game servers that are from the publisher of the game? Whose servers are the same on both platforms in the same datacentres around the world? Sure, huge differences!

Totally independent and unbiased research done by a firm out of the goodness of their hearts! No, really, that MS shared the results doesn't mean anything surely!

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"Why would you be against it"

What many Xbox fans like you don't get is that PS4 players aren't against it, they just don't care as much as you do. It would be neat, yes, but I don't need it in order to find people to play with.
PS4 + PC + mobile > X1 + Switch + PC + mobile

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"i’ve been complaining about crossplay since the first online games had been coming out on consoles (ps2/xbox days) and is still love to have it"

I've been complaining about it since the early 70's but neither of us can back it up with actual evidence we did....

Srhalo73d ago

You're pathetic, your actually mad because they changed the title to something slightly less trolling.

And lets be clear this whole thing is about trolling, the interview goes over tons of topics yet the one thing that you and all the Microsoft fan sites chose to focus on was the one thing you could turn into something negative to troll with.