Xbox executive Aaron Greenberg know full well the importance of Japanese games for the fans, and pledges to continue to grow Japanese content.
Oh boy Aaron chill a little bit let's show than see.
They literally say the same crap every year
I fking hate that guy and the other Nelson guy...
I would never buy another Japanese made game on xbox again. I'll either buy them on playstation or Nintendo consoles.
^ ... and people wonder why Japanese games don't sell on Xbox. This literally makes no sense other than to hate on something.
This is just MS annual, "we're committed to Japanese game" comment. I think MS problem here is that most people who play, or are most likely to enjoy Japanese content, don't really feel that MS or the Xbox is that important. The big Japanese titles MS is still likely to get. That stuff is important for them to get. MS knows it I'm sure. They've never really had a problem with that. It's the other 80% of Japanese content they don't get that they seem to have a problem getting, or at least retaining, and they never seem to go into it with enough sustained effort to really make a difference in the long haul....which is why the Otaku gamer doesn't really think MS or Xbox is that relevant to them.
Shenmue 3, Ni no Kuni, Persona 5, Yakuza and many more that are ps exclusive because Ms doesn't push through to the publishers and get them on their consoles. It's only recently that Japanese publishers have been releasing their games on the PC market and finding great success there, they should give Xbox a go. Truth is those Japanese developers don't find the point of releasing on Xbox because of the lack of interest mostly by the western gamers. The Xbox is hard to sell to Japanese gamers but if not hardware then a service can provide a step forward. With a cheap service like Gamepass, they can find a place in the Japanese market. If Microsoft is able the provide a streamable service on a mobile platform they can really garner great interest. This would allow Japanese developers to release their games exclusively on Gamepass and allow Japanese and western gamers to try the game at a low cost instead of investing a lot of money buying full priced games. The Japanese game industry is in a bit of a limbo right now. With developers like Fromsoft and Square enix releasing games like dark souls and Nier, which are akin to western style games and on the other hand, there is the traditional style of Japanese games such as Ni No Kuni and Xenoblade. This sort of disparity shows the conflict within the Japanese's gaming industry and this lack of focus is making its industry lag behind the western gaming industry. Microsoft needs to entice these developers to release their games on gamepass which allow it to garner an audience in the west. I know there will be many people saying Japan shouldn't waste their time with Xbox because their audience won't buy it because they are more multiplayer centric. That is by far one biggest generalization who can make, if the game is good enough they will get those games and It all got to do with how the game is marketed in the west and how much people talk about it as well.
Even with Japanese games I don't believe Xbox will do alot better in Japan. Many Japanese are loyal to Nintendo and Sony and to convince them to change platforms is going to be extremely difficult. But yes having godly JRPGs like Persona 5 is never a bad thing for Xbox.
^ This! I would never suggest that Xbox turns their back on Japanese gamers, but I think at this point in this gen, it's too little too late. These are realisations that MS should have opened the gen with, not closed it.
It's plain and simple, they wont buy a Xbox becuase it's American!
@Cloud At the start of the gen, as it was with the 360, actually made an effort to get Japanese games on the system. They did better on the 360 for sure. This gen, I think they partnered with 5pb. A good publisher for the kinds of games they publish, but its not exactly going to tear up the charts, or sway people who like those kinds of games to get an Xbox....particularly when the competition has 10 times as many of those kinds of games, and a fan base that is already pretty loyal to a brand other than Xbox.
Why release on game pass? That's just losing money instead of making it. The point of a publisher is to make money, not to get noticed for almost free. How is a publisher supposed to make money when MS is offering deals like game pass for $2 for 2 months? Would be ridiculous to release on there without a fat check from MS to make up any difference in sales potential. And as for Japanese games, xbox 360 and its fans nearly destroyed traditional style Japanese games coming to the west. Said derogatory names about them and didn't buy them. Do you really believe this hype man who works for a company that didn't even create Japanese studios this Gen to promote their style of games to the west or Japanese gamers on Xbox one? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
It's clear that you didn't comprehend what I wrote. Let me break it down in simple terms: -Putting the game on Gamepass would lead to exposure of the games, something that the Japanese publishers have a hard time doing. -People subscribed to Gamepass would see the game they would give it a go. They would get access to the game without paying a full price, which is a barrier for most people. (Think of Gamepass as a place where you can demo games) -If they like what they see, then the buy it. (Putting the game on Game pass doesn't mean the game isn't out in retail.) Sea of thieves and State of decay are making more money from retail and that because they have been exposed. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? "How is a publisher supposed to make money when MS is offering deals like Gamepass for $2?" The publisher making money isn't of anyone's concern. They have their own monopoly on how to make money. It very obvious that Ms would have to pay for the game to be on Gamepass and it would be similar to how Netflix and amazon prime gets their Movies and Tv shows from entertainment companies on their service. And to come back to what I was saying, if Japanese games release on Xbox Gamepass then they are more likely to get exposed and make more sales from it. This would mean Japanese developers would make games for Xbox for that exposure and out of that Japan would release exclusives for Xbox. Also, nice try attempting to feel for the publishers by mentioning the $2(which is a temporary deal), as if you care. I don't know how old you're but you need to apply a little bit of thinking next time you comment. "And as for Japanese games, Xbox 360 and its fans nearly destroyed traditional style Japanese games coming to the west. Said derogatory names about them and didn't buy them." ??? You mean, they didn't sell well. Last time I checked Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, The last remnant and Tales of Vesperia all played traditionally as they did.
Part 2 "Do you really believe this hype man who works for a company that didn't even create Japanese studios this Gen to promote their style of games to the west on Xbox one?" I'm just gonna bring up a comment I made on a previous page which explaining the mess Phil had to deal with. 'Don Mattrick and Steve Balmer set Xbox back a decade worth of games and studios with what they did. I want Ms to go back to the early year of the X360 when they were proper dishing out games like crazy. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and a plethora of Jrpg that were exclusive. X360 had everything in their bag to win last gen but they blew it all by focusing on Kinect in 2010 and that was the last year Ms blew it out of the park with exclusive. If we had Phil and Satya in charge back then they would have made the smart decision of acquiring Bioware early on and secured Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Satya loves gaming and he's is the one who asks how can we help Xbox become better, you can tell he supports gaming when as soon as he was made CEO his first acquisition was a gaming company. Phil had a lot of mess to clean up post-E3 2013 and it took a couple of years to clean the tarnished image of Xbox. Xbox had an overreliance on third-party Ip really had a bad impact on the image of Xbox as well. Ryse by Crytec, Sunset Overdrive by Insomniac, Quantum break by Remedy, Recore by Level 5 Comcept, Tomb Raider by Crystal Dynamic and many more third-party games. And this is what failed Scalebound and Phantom dust and probably what made Phil think about how he finance his future games. Phil planned to make new IPs but it had to be made with studios that were under his supervision and within the Microsoft studios. In Sep 2017 when he was promoted to the senior leadership team, he reports directly to Satya himself. And it comes with no coincidence that after his promotion, at E3 2018, he announces the acquisition of 5 studios.'
There have been a lot of cases of game sales increasing once they go on gamespass. Rocket league is an example. People are possibly using the promotional offers to try games. They can then purchase them at a discounted price. So putting games on gamepass can create sales. http://n4g.com/news/2187295...
The only incentive I can see for the devs in those cases is if MS actually funded the port of the game, and paid the licensing fee. I can't see how just porting a game for MS benefit would really help them. Yeah, more people would play their games, but many of the games we're talking about here are kind of a one and done thing. I don't see the reason why these devs would try and get people to buy their games on Xbox like that. The audience just isn't there, and while exposure may help in the long term, its likely to move people towards systems which offer a much bigger selection of those kinds of games.
Jeez man do you get paid to write these essay of explanation on N4G?? If not, it's kinda sad you got nothing better to do with your time LOL
I think it’s kind of sad that someone obviously loves video games and has a passion for them and enjoys talking about it. And is sharing his thoughtful options on the matter and you find that sad. It’s more sad that you come to make negative comments to try and shame someone who loves video games when you yourself have nothing worth while to say or add to the conversation . It’s ironic because you’re the one with nothing better to do. At least the other guys talking about his passion what are you doing with your comment that ends in LOL ?
@Bronxs15 You sound just as triggered as him mate. Welcome to N4G btw.
How to writing sad? You do realize you are part of this sad community of gamers that visit gaming websites to pass the time. I like to write long and thoughtful explanations and if you don't like reading then it's just you. This is something I use to publish on other websites, so if you think it's a waste of time then you should think again because I make money from it.
Great comments dude. But your wasting your time on n4g like ms wasting time in Japan. Look at your disagrees you’re in ps fanboy central. Word of advice take your comments and thoughts to more constructive communities like the Xbox or gaming subreddits over at reddit. Not saying don’t comment here. There’s still ppl like me thst like reading good comments but you’ll get better and less bias dialogues going at a place like Reddit
Never used reddit, are people more open to discussions on that.
If anything MS with their current interest in purchasing studios should either purchase or create a Japanese studio. That studio could then make Japanese games with a Western appeal in the same way Namco, Square and Capcom does. With so many Japanese studios releasing their games on PC, there really isn't any reason to not release that same game on Xbox even if it is just digitally as Neir did. This is only if MS is actually serious about Japan.
Aaron is a marketing guy so why he's promising anything to do with delivering Japanese games, I don't know. We keeping hearing the same song and dance about Microsoft's commitment to Japanese games, PC gaming, etc. They've always had pretty decent third-party Japanese game support, they've tried acquiring exclusive rights to Japanese games in the past, but it doesn't last and when these games don't sell they drop it like it's hot. Only to pick it up again the next generation rather than seeing it through. True commitment is opening studios in the country, helping them grow and making authentic experiences that are not only good, but different and risky. Can't say I blame them for being apprehensive, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
There are lots of things that happened with Xbox post 2010 and why Xbox didn't follow through with Japanese studios. Phil has mended the bonds with Bandai Namco that Don mattrick damaged with his mismanagement of their games in the past. Now all Phil needs to do is hire someone competent enough to lead Xbox in Japan. I mentioned above a strategy with game pass and how they could get Japanese publishers to release games on Xbox. Another majors thing Phil should do to gain massive presence in Japan is, straight up go to Konami and buy them up. Konami is up to no good and their franchise is laying dormant. These franchises already have a following and will sell ifs takes charge of them.
How did Don Mattrick damage Xbox's bonds with Bandai Namco? That publisher has been releasing games on Xbox One all generation. That makes no sense. Why is it a good idea for them to buy Konami, not even a well respected Japanese publisher, and an actively hated one? What good games, with positive word of mouth, does that provide them? Metal Gear will never be anything worthwhile for anyone without a guiding light like Kojima and his crazy storytelling. Silent Hill has been a niche franchise for going on 15 years now and you expect Microsoft of all publishers to make it relevant? It's weird how you say "all Phil has to do", as if it's that simple or foreseeable.
What the heck? Bandai Namco had so many exclusives on the 360? How was that a bad relationship?!!! Culdcept, Ace Combat, Beautiful Katamari, Tales of Vesparia, Magnacarta were exclusive to the 360 then add in that they actually got Tekken, Soul Calibur, DBZ, Naruto, Dark Souls and all the biggest Bandai Namco games were on 360 as well. If anything its the most franchises from Bandai to ever hit a Microsoft system. Whereas name a Bandai Namco exclusive on Xbox One?!!!
You do realise that Tales of xilia, Tales of xilia 2, Tales of zeteria, and Tales of Besteria and currently not on Xbox right. There are many more like one of the Ace series was exclusive to Xbox and one of the Tekken didn't release on Xbox. All that happened past 2010 when the suits at Ms abandoned Japan to focus on kinect. I have no link to the board that was discussing this but I know that Bandai Namco found that Ms were really hard to work with and it was then that their traditional Japanese games were not being released on Xbox
All that happened because most of those games didn't sell exceptionally well on the Xbox, and Sony just had too big of a install base to ignore and MS wasn't ponying up the cash for those games anymore. That isn't a soured relationship, that's just that MS paid them to get all those games exclusive, or MS used to have an install base that couldn't be ignored and were seen as a easy way into the western market, and when they weren't paying, or when they realized its not just as easy as release it on Xbox, Namco didn't see any reason to release it on a system with half the install base, for a platform which those games didn't sell well in the first place. Namco doesn't even release more than 25% of their games to western markets as is, so they certainly aren't going to be making Xbox ports for them.
Has Xbox One sold over 100K in Japan yet?
Bringing Tales of Vesperia remastered to the X1 is a first step to that.
So we’re going to forget all the other Japanese games released on XO since it launched? If FFXV can’t change XO’s appeal with the Japanese audience then Tales of Vesperia sure won’t
So what do you suppose they should do? Just give up and stop selling their console in Japan?
I’m not saying they shouldn’t do anything, I’m saying it doesn’t make sense to expect Tales of Vesperia to be the start of anything
Wasn't the first Tales game released last gen exclusive to xbox? How is Vesperia going to help when a game that was all MS's from the get go didn't? They did the Japanese push last gen with the 360, and it did nothing, and the 360 was their golden goose. You think a remaster of a series that was exclusive to them last gen will help get them back in Japan's good graces? How?
So MS should just sit back and do nothing? The issue that MS is trying to correct is bringing more Japanese games to their system. There is a fanbase for these games which is obvious. And there really isn't a reason for the games to not release on Xbox especially when more niche games like One Piece or Dynasty Warriors released on the Xbox system.
Did I say that MS should do nothing? I was replying to Kings comment about a Tales of Vesperia remaster and that it probably wouldn't have much of an effect on the Japanese gamers as far as the xbox goes. I'm not saying MS should just give up. I'm saying that it probably wouldn't make much of a difference, but I'm not knocking them for trying.
MS actually had several big JRPGs exclusive to their system last gen. A couple new IP's in the mix as well. And no...it didn't help their sales in Japan, and it didn't really pull the Otaku gamers into the Xbox fold. @Gangsta There is a fan base for these games. MS shouldn't just let it go, but at the same time, MS is certainly facing an uphill battle because they both have to convince the Japanese devs to make games for them, and then convince people that they actually care about bringing enough Japanese games so said audience will actually buy an Xbox. The latter is probably going to be the hardest part that MS faces.
They need more than a few Japanese games. If that want to succeed in Japan they need multiple games and multiple Japanese studios that they own. Without the ability to make their own games and release at least 1-2 high quality exclusives per year in that market they will not make a dent. Of course if they build/buy some studios they can release them worldwide and kill 2 birds with 1 stone. But they need multiple games each year. Not just 1-2 games funded by them.
Surely any game is important
Good show what you mean that's all because we all heard this sort of talk from MS about Xbox before I think physical releases are out of question just do digital only like neir. Playstation brand is just more well known world wide so Xbox can't compete with the name sake anytime soon. That doesn't mean these games shouldn't be on Xbox though It's time got Xbox fans to show their support to some of these niche titles to show the publishers that it's worth releasing these games on Xbox For example why can't ms pay sega to release the complete yakuza collection on Xbox one yes that means ms has to pay for it while sega makes profit but so be it
Where they at though!?
I'll believe it when MS starts acquiring some solid Japanese studios. It's been the same song and dance for years. Amazing how MS acquires multiples studios across NA and Europe but zero in Asia or Japan. Do they even have any plans on attending TGS this year?
I swear Microsoft says that every year to little avail.
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