Ready at Dawn CEO Ru Weerasuriya commented on the steady The Order: 1886 sales and said the studio would like to make another triple-A game.
Criminally underrated game. I wish them the best.
I really do hope Sony gives th m another go at The Order sequel. Despite its flaws the game has some major potential.
It really does and while many flaws were valid most of the hate came from it being a shorter story focused game for $60. It probably would have been received a lot better for $40 at launch. I think a sequel would really give the devs a chance to let that potential out and really deliver the experience they wanted to.
Sony will definitely give them another shot but will the gamers me personally yes but it better be longer
And this time NO QTEs!!
My biggest issue was the fact you could legit beat it in one sitting in a few hours, & the werewolves, which were supposed to be the biggest deal, were the easiest enemies to beat.
@Skull You come across as one of the most clueless people on this site. Give your hatred a rest dude. Not a single person acts as if the game is the second coming of Christ. It’s definitelu not a polished turd. Must be hard to recognize things though when you live in such a tiny box. Maybe MS offers better games for you, then stick to all your fun games and quit being ignorant
The thing is....the story in this game is only like 3 hours shorter than an Uncharted game, and nobody complains about that.
@Muzikguy you're right. This skull guy is toxic.
Agreed...Sony should give them another chance. I personally loved the game.
Another chance at a AAA whether it's a sequel or a new IP either way I'd be happy :)
Same here, so much untapped potential. It was a bit on the short side sure, but the gunplay was top notch.
Not without new management and oversight.
I don't think it's criminally underrated. Nor underrated in the slightest. The game has a lot of fundamental gaming and story telling problems. I absolutely love the setting and premise though and really hope they get to make a sequel to flesh it out and improve on everything.
"The game has a lot of fundamental gaming and story telling problems..." such as... ?
@Ziggurcat: Really? Just click on metacritic. You'll have your answer in 5 seconds.
@ziggurcat Did you play the game? If you had then you'd have experienced the mediocre cover shooting, the badly implemented boss sections that were just repeated multiple times. Then the story was rushed and glossed over a lot with a lot of anticlimactic sections like the vampires in the warehouse. It's fine if you liked the game, I still did enjoy it for what it was. That's why i hope it gets a sequel to flesh out and improve.
"Did you play the game?" Yes. I have the platinum, in fact. What about the cover shooting made it "mediocre"? It felt like normal cover shooting like you would find in Gears or Uncharted to me. The story complaints aren't entirely valid as it was planned to be a trilogy - you don't go into the first episode of a series expecting everything to be explained or tied up in a nice little bow for you at the end of the first episode. That would defeat the whole purpose of having a series. The game was fine, and a lot better than everyone was making it out to be. The only real valid criticisms were perhaps the length (which wasn't an issue for me, really), and the boss variety.
Game has flaws. Like many games have flaws. How much you enjoyed a game is personal point of view though. People keep saying reviews are just an opinion. Go all the way in that logic and allow people to say a game is underrated. There's no telling this or that are facts anyway
@Ziggurcat No it's cover system is not as good as Gears. Sorry but Gears cover system has some unique mechanics that were kinda accidental (in the way wave dashing is in Smash Bros Melee). To give an example here is what it looks like if you try wallbouncing in The Order: https://youtu.be/s9DuxpyVzj... "The story complaints aren't entirely valid as it was planned to be a trilogy" Load of crap. If your opening games story is lackluster then why should I care about your sequel? Oh my bad guys I'd rate the game badly but it's the first in a trilogy so my opinion is wrong because of 2 more games that currently don't exist.... /s It uses some very interesting ideas for it Lore but most of it is only skin deep. But it's dressed up well with good acting, a well written script, solid animation and good graphics which gives the illusion of having a good narrative. As I've said though these are only skin deep and the things that truly make the game like the level design, enemy variety, ai and general lack of content is where it completely fails A sequel isn't what's needed but a reboot that intertwines itself with the Orders origin with Arthur Pendragon and also in the setting of 1886. Don't just insist on name dropping historical figures in such a shallow way. Make them the core of the world and not just filler.
I felt the gun play was the best part of the game play to be honest. The game mechanics did have their flaws elsewhere, and I can point them out better than most who seem to just hate on the game, and will easily agree about the boss fights, but even that highlights the game was unfinished and rushed out the door. That being said, the story elements weren't really a problem. Or at least, I felt that the game was unfinished, which left parts of the story unfinished. But what was there was good enough. I've seen much weaker stories in the first entry to a new IP which were no where close to as good as The Order. Things like Gears of War which pretty bare bones and really just a set up for the next gun sections. UC1(which had a cursory story in the first game, although likable characters). The tomb raider reboot, which didn't improve with the 2nd game. List could go on, but I don't really want to start a flame war by citing different games.
Underrated but it had its faults If they marketed the game with how it was then I don’t think as many people would have as felt let down
I don't know if it was under rated. It did have some flaws and was released unfinished. But I felt that the hate it got was unjustified, and many people made it out to be much worse than it really was while usually disregarding the actual good things it did. I still kind of know who hasn't played it when they say the actual game play was bad, because the game play itself was pretty damn solid. Otherwise, I wish them the best too. I would like to see them get a shot at making a sequel. I'd imagine if they don't have to worry about making the engine with a 2nd game, maybe they can focus on the game.
Not that anybody gives a crap, but here were some of my thoughts on The Order:1886 after playing it when it came out.... (Spoilers for those who still haven't played???) I definitely think Ready at Dawn missed an opportunity to dive deep into the lore and give us much more of the backstory of all the Knights, and their histories. When you consider all their eyes must have seen in the hundreds of years they've been alive, I was disappointed we didn't get to learn much more about them, particularly Igraine. I liked the game overall though, just needed a few things to make it great, like a deeper look into the characters, more collectibles, and less handholding/on rails gameplay. I was not happy with Galahad when he decided not to take Igraine and Lafayette (now Percival) to the East India Company, but instead took the Knight commander. And after discovering the shipping containers full of lycans, how could he not tell the knights, particularly Igraine, who he's presumably been fighting alongside for centuries, what was going on?? Igraine deserved to know. So now Grayson (Galahad no more) becomes one of the rebels? Loved no more, now hated by Igraine? Still respected and given the benefit of the doubt by Lafayette (Percival)? I too, look forward to a sequel, perhaps dlc??? (DLC never came, sequel is doubtful, so I am not thrilled, but damn if the story told didn't make me give a damn about some of these characters)
Come on Sony, give them a second chance. Hopefully they let them make a sequel on PS5.
I thinking 1886 came out now it would have a different, more positive response. The ending was still pants though
I personally liked the ending. Made me want a sequel.
Haven't played that one yet
C'mon give us a redeemable sequel...my only wish is that they give us a new setting aswell, preferably in India...
Going by the ending, it would probably be in the US.
For what it was, it was a good game with an interesting universe and mythos, great graphics. if not a dull colour palette, but hindered by it's gaps in gameplay and being criminally short. RAD are an incredibly talented studio, you only have to look at the PSP GoW games and Daxter to see that. it's a shame that The Order wasn't that original IP to put them in the limelight.
I think that the game was pushed out before it was done. It was delayed a couple times, and the final product was absent of actual things that seemed like they should be there. The boss fights are a key example due to their lack of variety, and ultimately, not that engaging. There were several sections where it seemed like there should be gun play and it never happened. For instance, at least one section which was kind of big and seemed set up for gun play. Another was with the warehouse where all the vampire coffins were. I thought that some vampires would attack while I was looking for the right coffin, but it never came. Overall general lack of enemy variety would be another example. I think if [email protected] had used a 3rd party engine, then maybe they would have had more time to work on the game itself, and probably had it more complete. But my guess is that Sony decided they needed to get the game released, and wouldn't fund more development time, so it went into code lock for what was there....with maybe some time allowed to make it seem complete, and then it was pushed out the door. If a sequel were to come, I'd hope that they either have their engine complete so they can work faster, or go with a 3rd party engine, so they can focus on the game itself. Overall, its obvious they are capable of making a AAA game, they just need to work on their workflow to complete it in a timely manner.
I don't agree that the game was released unfinished. When someone from the studio talked I always had the impression that gameplay was secondary and what they really wanted was to push the cinematic storytelling aspect of it. Come release and what we got was a game that reflected just that. A game with a presentation that rivals the best looking games on the PS4 which indicates that a lot of care and time was put into it but falls short in the gameplay department. Also this game had a 5 year development time. The way I see it, RaD made the game they wanted to make.
I can understand that. It just seemed that parts were left without some things that were meant to be there. Its possible that game play wasn't the priority, but it still seemed off that some parts were made, yet left kind of barren.
make the sequel - i'll buy it day1.
I want a sequel! 😲
I'm not opposed to a sequel, but Remedy had best take the criticism to heart from the first game. I think people are correct saying the world and characters have potential, but the game play experience was extremely linear, extremely basic, and extremely repetitive. I know people wont like my comment, but we all know its the truth.
Well no, it's not true because Remedy made the Max Paynes 1, 2, Alan Wake, Quantum Break games, Ready at Dawn made The Order 1886,, the devs name is right there in the articles title.
You mean Ready At Dawn. That's the studio responsible for The Order 1886.
You know what I meant. Just mixed up the R-named studios.
The community on this website is ridiculous You guys fail to accept or even acknowledge truth on a routine basis. I mean, we have idiots here saying the Order was a 10/10. Give me a break.
If RAD makes a sequel to The Order: 1886 I may just crap myself with excitement.
I enjoyed the game. The ideas can be fleshed out more.
If assassins creed can go on to have so many games then i think this definitely deserves a shot.
Maybe SSM can mentor them a little, I know RaD were successful on handhelds - the talent is there. They just need a little guidance.
Put in a BR mode, load outs and Online multi player only and then we may have a hit on our hands. Seriously, it is a shame that [email protected] created this engine that made some great looking visuals and haven't gone back to it with anything after The Order. The game having a failed reception must have been a serious blow to the team.
Considering the amount of hate towards the games months prior to release the fact that it seems it did sell steadily is good.
Think it sold well because it's close bargain bin price range and is in there during sales.
Don't really know if it's a fact considering [email protected] hasn't done a triple A game since.
If they ever end up making another game, the focus better be gameplay over graphics. It already looks good enough so just make it more like Resident Evil or dead space.
This cant be a coincidence that this post happened after yesterdays opinion about a sequel
They would have to go with a publisher then perhaps THQ Nordic?
Sony owns the IP, so they'd be the ones to publish it. Whether they'd fund a sequel is the question, and I guess they aren't willing to do so. Its possible another investor could fund it and still allow Sony to publish, but I think that would be hard to get given the reception of the original. As far as I can tell, the original sold reasonably well despite the hate and critical reception it received. I think it got a lot of its sales after the inevitable price drops though. There are many times where you could get the game digital for around $10-15.
Would love to see a follow up to The Order: 1886. The setting & characters were awesome. It also had proper werewolves.
I enjoyed it on launch day. I was very disappointed that a sequel looked like it wasn't going to happen, so I hope they make another one.
Totally underrated there was certainly more to offer given a sequel :)
Fun game beautiful graphics. I bought the first one and wish they would make a second
Still is one of the best looking games on the platform.
This game deserves a sequel, i loved the first one (even if it was a little bit short), story and graphics were phenomenal and the gameplay was fun too, a sequel could improve everything, they deserve a second chance
It really is unfortunate that when the game first released, critics and gamers alike ripped it to shreds and really hurt its reputation. I can understand why Sony may be hesitating to return to it anytime soon. The outcry on how it was more of cut-scenes and whatnot was really bad, almost similar to the whole debacle outcry of No Man's Sky. It was really bad. It's unfortunate because I personally really enjoyed it for what it was when I picked it up for $30. But like I said, so many people crapped on it for what it was at the time and the negatives completely glossed over the positives.
Its strange because every time the subject comes up, there are usually a lot of people who say they want a sequel. A game like this would be a AAA production though, and it'd be risky to base it off those in the community who want a sequel. on top of that, I think its Sony's only real dark mark on its software offerings this gen and they probably don't want to revisit that when they have so much other good stuff going on. However, I think that if they manage to make a sequel which is of the same quality of their current offerings, then they'd have another huge IP on their hands. Its also possible that Sony may not have faith that R&D can complete a AAA game of that scope, because they didn't seem to have finished the first one and Sony released it unfinished. I paid full price and I enjoyed the game. Being a close to launch game, I don't really feel cheated out of my money. I like the experience, and the game had some good parts that made it worth it. If it were a late gen game, or coming out now, I probably would be disappointed paying $60 for it, but I likely would have enjoyed it just as well.
It was graphically an Amazing looking game with some nice style and weapons. Problem was it held your hand to often and battles were too tight. Fleshed out would have been excellent.
Very underrated game with huge sequel potentials imo, hope they don't give up on this one
If they are going to make another AAA game, it makes sense to stick with The Order. Im sure theyll take on board all the criticism levelled at the first game. Myself and lots of others would love to see what they can do with a sequel. Everything is in place to make a real top quality game. Ps5 launch game maybe? Hope so.
c'mon sony, give them a chance and let them do the order 1887
I loved the first game, and with some slight tweaks and extra content it could be a killer franchise.
Looked impressive, played a few hours but was tired of it quick. The 3rd person cover mechanics were also copy and paste. There was little ingenuity at work beyond the excellent engine,rendering and art direction. It was pretty, yet boring imo. I'd finish the short campaign if they'd patch it for pro but that is unlikely. On to bigger and better things.
This was a beautiful game but the criticisms leveled at it are fair. The boss fights where beyond underwhelming right up to and including the final one. Just really bland as if no effort was put into game play just presentation, I remember wondering what they were thinking. The story, really dumb at parts which would hype you up then disappoint when the plot secret would be reveled. Cleary they have some talented artists over there but they could use much better story writers and game play designers. The cycling werewolfs in the warehouse along with other things almost felt lazily done but given the production values present overall I know it's not the case.
I'd love a sequel before this generation ends
Lone Echo felt like a polished AAA game