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No, Nintendo doesn't need VR

Once again, VR has surfaced in the news in connection to the Nintendo Switch. VR on Nintendo's current platform would only harm its current success.

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ApocalypseShadow2505d ago

Where should I begin....

**(VR) has been met with mixed to negative results commercially**

Subjective. Consumer vr has never existed until now. It has sold millions of units across mobile, pc, stand alone and console. Pong and Atari didn't sell 100 million like today. That took time. It's doing fine. Stop thinking gaming started 10 years ago.

**Many will concur that there is a steep drop-off to that initial excitement after a short time with the technology. In other words, the positive experiences don’t endure.**

Subjective. Others will say there isn't any drop off and play more vr than flat screen games like myself now. The excitement continues. Speak for yourself.

**I don’t feel like the technology is ready for its place in the mainstream gaming arena.**

I guess pong and Atari weren't ready either. But look what market they helped create that you benefit from article writer. Did you forget how gaming started?

**should Nintendo consider it in the near future, they’d be taking an extreme risk.**

That's how things get started. Someone takes a risk.

**Virtual Reality is simply more physically demanding than the gaming audience prefers.**

Didn't know sitting on a couch with an hmd and a controller in hand was a demanding option.

**medical professionals warned of the risk to eyesight that VR poses.**

Medical professionals say the same for television, cell phones, computer monitors while typing, etc. And to take 15 minute breaks. Tell us something new.

**Furthermore, the use of motion controls will become tiresome.**

Says you if you're lazy.

Article goes on and on with negativity. Multiple switches could link by wifi or adhoc to play together. Right now, Bandai Namco has gamers playing together with mario kart in the arcades with the consent of Nintendo that may come home one day.
https://m.youtube.com/watch...
Comparing vr sales to PS4 sales and attachment rate is idiotic. There are $60 games that don't sell 1 to 1. Even $10 games don't sell 1 to 1. Does that mean those games are failures? Idiotic.

Why type all this complete nonsense and just say you don't like vr and don't want nintendo to enter the market? Nintendo could make excellent vr games if they tried that doesn't require reality looking graphics. And the joycons are pretty much vr ready. Labo Toycons tell me nintendo is more than creative in making fun vr. They made cardboard fun. CARDBOARD.

How do you know what nintendo needs or could possibly help make even better.

chinton2505d ago (Edited 2505d ago )

For starters, this is a subjective article peppered with fact as support.

"Article goes on and on with negativity"

So you are arguing with the opinion that VR would be negative option for Nintendo economically. That's stated clear in the title so it's hard to understand your surprise at the arguments in favor of that theme.

"Comparing vr sales to PS4 sales and attachment rate is idiotic. There are $60 games that don't sell 1 to 1. Even $10 games don't sell 1 to 1. Does that mean those games are failures? Idiotic."

$60 games have an entire consoles player base to sell to. VR games only had 3% of Sony's player base to sell to. I don't think you understood the statistic. I'd be happy to have a conversation, though, should you provide a counter argument that isn't calling your opposition "idiotic".

It also seems you pulled quotes from the article out of context. The "physically demanding" comment was in regards to the eyes strain from over stimulation. Again, this is a fact supported by the medical community. This doesn't compare to using cell phones or watching TV. It's truly an over stimulating experience for the optics.

I agree, however, with your statement that joy-con are practically geared up for it. It's true, they certainly seem to be the perfect fit for a VR experience.

Again, I am happy to hear counter arguments. The article invited as much, but let's not let the basis of them devolve into insults.

ApocalypseShadow2505d ago

My response is peppered with facts. VR has sold millions. PSVR has just sold 3 million at $200-$500 dollars with attachments if you buy them. It's not cheap. Don't expect it to sell 50 million its first time around. Comparing it to PS4 sales is unfair. It costs as much or more than PS4. It's foolish to do that. Only someone born yesterday would think every product has to sell to everybody right off the bat. Fads and gimmicks do. Then die off. VR developers don't want it to drop off like wii did. They want to nurture it over time because it will take time. As I said above, gaming didn't start yesterday. VR deserves to be allowed time as well.

Eyestrain applies to many products. You saying it about vr only shows that you don't want it to succeed. Gamers get eyestrain from playing regular flat screen games. Doctors talk about cell phones hurting our eyes just recently
https://www.popsci.com/scre...
Should we all stop playing? All we need to do is come up with filters to protect our eyes just as we filter sunlight from our eyes with shades. And take breaks as all electronics require for good eye health.

For vr to reach more people over time and get better, more developers and hardware manufacturers need to be on board. That includes nintendo. And more risk from Microsoft instead of having other hardware makers producing hmds on pc for them. They got the money but never really take risks. They always look for sure things that generate money immediately.

Gaming developed over time. VR needs that same time. If gamers like me didn't buy pong and Atari, colecovision,nes, master system, etc, gaming would have just been a gimmick too and died off.

Why do you expect it to immediately sell to everyone on its first go around at a high price at that?

Davidgr22505d ago

More like Nintendo CAN’T do VR. 720p 30 fps or lower doesn’t work for VR....

Fearmonkey2505d ago

Has the writer of the article ever played Playroom VR's Robot Rescue on PSVR? If not, they need to play that and then they will see what they are missing with Nintendo not doing VR. Im looking forward to Astrobot, Robot Rescue was amazing.

chinton2505d ago (Edited 2505d ago )

Admittedly, I have not. I played Arkham, Rush of Blood, Re7, among others but never did try the playroom. Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.

Fearmonkey2504d ago

Also check out Moss, another great example. :)

VendettaGamer2505d ago (Edited 2505d ago )

Need a strong word. But it would be nice to have. Just look up Mario Kart VR and think that that could be a possibility. Plus remastered of Virtual boy games could be awesome.

AK912505d ago

No it doesn't but neither did Sony and its cool that they support it, although with Nintys currently underpowered hardware I doubt they could support VR.

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Little Nightmares Enhanced Edition announced for Nintendo Switch 2

We have another announcement from the Little Nightmares universe as Little Nightmares Enhanced Edition was just announced for Nintendo Switch 2. It launches on October 10, 2025. According to today’s announcement, Little Nightmares Enhanced Edition will run at 4K and 60 frames per second.

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Terry_B1d ago

..announced for every System including the Switch 2.

hiawa2315h ago

Definitely getting it for the Switch 2.

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Rematch is "chasing credibility" but not realism like rival EA FC

Pocket Tactics sits down with Rematch’s creative director, Pierre Tarno, to discuss why Sloclap moved away from Sifu to chase something new.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer1d 12h ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30001d 11h ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer1d 11h ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

Terry_B1d 11h ago

Yeah..its super annoying.

blacktiger1d 10h ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30001d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole1d 5h ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto1d 11h ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing691d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif1d 10h ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing691d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif1d 9h ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot1d 10h ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast1d 10h ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts1d 10h ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos1d 7h ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo22h ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner19h ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic188118h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Are you and Anast the same person?

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