The bar has been raised by Santa Monica’s latest game for everyone else- including Naughty Dog.
I like the way God of War is the new industry standard, but it's a trap to begin comparing and competing with games in very different genres. Naughty Dog will do Naughty Dog; and as much as there is some comradery between the two studios, I doubt they are in any real competition with each other- and neither should they be. God of War was roaring success, not because they were trying to beat anyone else, but because they wanted to innovate on what they had already done previously. Similarly, the Last of Us 2 will be a roaring success, not because Naughty Dog will be competing with anyone else, but because they are seeking to innovate on what they have done previously. That's the best recipe for success. Developers that jump on a band wagon (Battle Royal anyone?) usually lack creativity and innovation, and their products are usually sub-par.
Its not hard to top GOW. its just button mashing. Not really much difference from Golden Axe on the Sega Mega Drive/Genesis.
I nearly choked on my Cornetto reading this. A+ trolling from this man.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better
@pcz Dude seriously, don't expose yourself in public like that, at least put some pants on or something. It's embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for you.
Button mashing ?? thank you for confirming that you never played it
Clearly you havent played God of war on ps4 if ever. Button mash in this god of war you'll be restarting in no time
Yeah, my many deaths confirm that either 1) it's more than button mashing 2) I'm mashing the wrong buttons. I'm going to go with #1.
Lol button mashing. Haven’t played it huh.
battle royale band wagon? There’s only a few, there are thousands of third person adventure/shooting games.
Because a game is made in a certain genre (RPG, FPS, TPS, RTS etcetc) doesn't mean the dev is jumping on a band wagon. It's when they copy aspects of other games, such as game modes, art styles and motifs, story beats etc. A good example is Zombie games - it doesn't really matter what genre the game is set in, zombie games have been done to death, and it's really hard to make an original zombie game as it's probably already been done before.
BR is old news. It's been out just over a year now. Obviously its well past its prime. /s BR is suffering from the fate of becoming popular quickly. People who like to seem they aren't bandwagoners start to hate it for no reason. As if it somehow takes away from them, even though it really doesn't, and if anything, just gives a chance to get more in the future. Kind of like the Zombie craze in FPS MP. BR will be a game mode going forward, and become the new Horde mode for this generation.
Its friendly competition. The best kind. Where two companies try to outdo one another, but don't try to run the other out of business.
Uh Sorry but I don't agree that GOW "Is the new industry standard" I still feel like TLOU is the Industry Standard. I also beleive that TLOU II will carrying on that mantel.
I didn't mean to say that God of War WAS the new industry standard, but was just pointing out that media outlets are holding it up as such, and comparing it's success to that of upcoming games. You must have seen articles like, "Will Spiderman sell more than God of War?" etc etc. Personally, for me there was just much more narrative depth and character development in TLOU than in GOW. However, gameplay wise GOW wins hands down. The great thing is that as a Playstation owner, I get to enjoy both franchises and don't have to pick a favourite :)
Well CDPR claimed they admired the works from R* and now they have come to par or surpassed in open world quality IMO. same can be said for SSM cuz their recent GOW was heavily influenced by NDs TLOU. So anything can be possible. But I'm just too biased toward ND games, and still to this day, my favorite ps4 game is still U4.even though GOW was great, it really didn't hit me with that emotional resonance which I believe ND will deliver yet again with the TLOUP2. Cant wait to experience the right/wrong morale and "everything happens for a reason" narrative.
"Well CDPR claimed they admired the works from R* and now they have come to par or surpassed in open world quality " Respect to your opinion, but I strongly disagree with that.
I 2nd that CDPR are great but not on par or surpassed R*.
Have you played The Witcher 3? With all due respect there hasn't been a Rockstar game that has had such high production values in every category you care to name. I'm hoping that RDR2 will surpass The Witcher 3, but until it does CDPR holds the Gold Standard because of TW3. Moreover if the rumours of Cyberpunk 2077 are anything to go by, then they will continue to hold the gold standard for some time.
They also claim they will never release, go figure get it... They keep doing the talk, no one cares,
If it's anything remotely close to the quality of the first one they will most definitely top god of war
This. I thought God of War was good, but I thought The Last of Us was absolutely incredible. I believe Naughty Dog will set that bar even higher now.
OMG ! Are you serious ? Is this really a question ? Of course TLOU II is going to be the most outstandingly awesomest video game created up to the date in time when it is released. I have no doubt that it will like its predecessor destroy the competition and dominate every other game out there. Just from the small bits I've seen I can tell Naughty Dog has taken TLOU to a whole another level ! It looks to be more realistic and visceral and more deadly, it will be like NO other game out there just as TLOU was when it came out and I feel it will like its predecessor continue to set the bench mark for what a video game should be.
I want naughty dog to top naughty dog
healthy infighting ftw.....simple
9/10 times they always do.
It isn't can they, but will they top them.
I don't think Last of Us 2 can be better than GoW.
It's certainly a tall order, but if anyone is up to the challenge, it's ND.
I loved God of War, but the answer to the headline is a resounding Yes. TLoU is in my top 3 games of all-time. More of that would definitely top God of War.
Very different games. I think they'll be top in their generas.
Very different? They are actually very similar.
I'm not seeing it. In one game you run into an area, enemies spawn and you smash the shit out them, then run to the next are where more enemies get put to the slaughter. (Now I have to go home and play more God of War) In the other game you spend most of your time stealthily planning your routes of attack and avoidance. Being low key is key. Fighting only when need be. Seems very different to me.
I think they couldn't be more different, there is no aspect of these titles that is similar with the exception of the camera perspective.
Beyond both having a good story, what is essentially an escort quest, and the camera positioning, I don't really see any similarities at all.
ND are too good they will win hands down Can u imagine if they made there own gta or god of war
yes I can imagine, it wouldn’t be as good. That’s not to say I want to see r* make a last of us game, different teams with different styles and strengths.
I would love to see an open world game from them but a RPG, not an open world action adventure game like GTA.
i doubt it, but that's Ok
one thing is 100% certain TLOU 2 will be an insta success, if it will be the same in sales like GOW ? well it actually can be way higher or the same, hmmm I think is going to be higher, either way so happy to be a Playstation console owner :)
So the so called journalists aclaimed that he can compare GOW with TLOU because both are big hits single player games. So lets compare Overwatch with COD and Fortnite :)
I think they can, TLOU 2 is gonna be one of the highest rated games this gen
I honestly wasnt the biggest fan of the new god of war. dont get me wrong, it was an amazing push forward for the series as far as story goes however, I dont think every game needs to be the next "last of us". I was perfectly fine with the short but sweet story of the previous GOW games. The third one being my favorite, had a simple but awesome story of revenge and the gameplay was brutal and gory. I honestly was ok with GOW being that type of game. This new one was great; had great story,kratos was fleshed out more, but the brutality of the game and the epic scaled boss fights were sacrificed for it and idk if that was something I wanted them to take away. Just my opinion though. I'm sure the next GOW will be epic as they have laid out all the grown work now.
Games can be good without being the "next" something. GOW proved that. Horizon was a great game, but it wasn't the next Witcher. For every genre, there are always some great contenders in the ring. ND excelled at what they did, but a lot of their prowess comes from setting the technical bar. Their approach to story telling is not new even when they started it with UC, or did it differently in TLOU, but the way it was all crafted together was great.
In all fairness God of War was good,but it was nothing that has not been seen before really.
Neither was UC or TLOU. TLOU though did have a unique way to present the story, and it was the quality of the story, wrapped up in a solid game, that made it excel. Something doesn't have to be completely new to be great.
There is a tendency now within Sony first party studios and it is innovation. Every time one of those studios release a new game they raise the bar. Look...Uncharted 4 released and it raised the bar, then Horizon Zeron Dawn released and it raised the bar, then God of War and next is TLoU 2. Sony's first party studios are on fire and they inspire each other.
Even though its second party, I'd say that Spider-man may also raise some bars. Maybe not to the same degree though. Also, Beyond set a pretty high graphical standard.
I agree. Spiderman is already raising the bar for super hero games and I am sure is going to be the best Spiderman game.
They are both doing their own thing and that's why they are so successful. Meanwhile we got other publishers and developers jumping on the bandwagon for Battle Royal mode and stuff.
This game will fail to much politics in game.
... how? Where? I don't see it.
Hard to say what politics are in the game. There are some politics injected by the community based off the last trailer, but that doesn't actually speak to what the nature of that will be in the game.
Easily. TLOU 2 is the most anticipated PS4 game ever. At least in my opinion. Hell, I still play TLOU 1 - the multiplayer is awesome. The one thing I will say about GOW: while I greatly enjoyed the experience, it did not blow my mind. When I played - and still play TLOU - it blew my effing mind, both in terms of single and multiplayer experiences.
Naughty dog need to top tlou1
I personally don't think God of War topped the original The Last of Us (in the storytelling department, the two games' gameplay is completely different). If anyone is going to one up them this generation though, it's ND. God of War is the best narrative experience of the generation so far, for me at least. This article tries to downplay ND's mechanics in TLoU, saying that no one plays the game for it's mechanics. The mechanics worked well, the stealth was seamless, and the game was challenging. I don't know what more someone could want from a game. Have other games made advancements in third person shooters since TLoU released? Absolutely, but the game still played well and evokes emotion from the players. At least for those with any kind of heart.
Gow didn't top the original TloU for me. let's see if its going to top TloU2.
Couldn't agree with you more, while GoW was utterly fantastic I still feel that TLoU pulled me into that universe more, told a more compelling story and introduced deeper, more interesting characters. To this day I have never felt as deeply for characters in any other game as I do for Joel and Ellie.
Yep the characters that we or at least I ended up deeply caring about led to an emotional ride that GOW wasn't able to surpass. In fact I cared so much that SPOILERS ----------- If Joel didn't save Ellie I would hate the game and be angry with ND. Irrational, I know but that's how invested I was.
I agree. Despite GOW having a really good story, it still wasn't as good as the first TLOU. Game play wise, I'd say that GOW was more robust, but TLOU game play worked really well, and was technically pretty flawless. GOW was also pretty flawless, but could get mired down at times when you did constant fighting....like on the trials mountain. I could do without the wavy aiming in TLOU, but that was a choice by the developer to make it more like a real person may aim....although I don't know how true that would be for someone apparently experienced at using firearms. Graphics wise, I'd say that GOW doesn't even hold that crown. Horizon was actually better for an open world game, although GOW did have much better character models. TLOU is too far removed from release to judge it on graphics by today's standards, but it was at a pinnacle on its original release....even holding its own today against current gen games from most publishers.
They need better gameplay to top GOW!
What’s with all this can every AAA title beat GOW. Some amazing games on the way let’s enjoy and stop comparing.
As long as you keep it fresh or keep the team creative I think most of games can be great! Look at cdpr, they just wanted to surpass themselves with Witcher 3, they wanted to do as much as possible for the fans and themselves. Guerilla games left the killzone for something entirely different and it went great with Horizon!! Naughty dog went from UC to TLOU! SMS took a break from GoW and came back with new ppl new ideas and made it great! Ubisoft is a little different but more time, new ideas made AC Origins fantastic again! R* made red dead revolver, fast forward to next gen, other games were made and then went back and built Redemption from ground up and blew up every western game from before!! I trust ND on this! And I trust cdpr on cyberpunk 2077
Hahah ppl get down voted for saying logical things. So if you don't have the team with creative ideas and have the game fresh with new things it will be good? Dafuq.
Eh I'm not sure because GoW was a great game but so was TLOU. Gameplay wise I'd say GoW easily beats TLOU but TLOU beats GoW in the story department. I got attached to joel and ellie and was also attached to kratos and BOI!!(sorry I had to lol) so it is a draw for me. Both worlds were great but I feel like I got to see more of one in GoW and it was beautiful. I am hoping in TLOU2 that ND have more of an open world, maybe not the size of GoW but less linear then the first TLOU. IMO it is a tough decision but I have tons of confidence in ND to deliver a great gaming experience in TLOU2.
Considering the approach they are taking with the game I doubt it.
What approach? From what i can see from the latest e3 trailer, the gameplay especially the new melee combat looks much improved from the first game. The graphics looks stunning. If the story is as good as the first game, i have no doubt that this will top GoW.