Why ROM preservation is important, and why Emuparadise's demise is not a good sign.
Until they can shut down torrent sharing, they aren't stopping jack shit. You can get every emulator and rom Emuparadise had through torrents. So long as one person has it and is willing to share, ROM preservation is not going anywhere. Besides, this is only one site, others will fill the void in time.
Everything you're saying is true, but still the fact that Nintendo specifically seeks to stop places like Emuparadise in and of itself is concerning. Gaming as a hobby is loved and adored in such a manner that its community treats games as timeless works of art. Nintendo's actions practically comes off as a mass book burning that seems to steer the industry in a direction that will cause these timeless treasures to all but disappear.
I've been noticing some players in the industry have already been trying to do this, even if unintentionally. Remakes can take away from the original especially when they don't do it justice. Reboots are just stupid IMO. Although I've heard good things about the new God of War. I still think they could have called it something else. In a sense, it's starting to erase the original because now there are 2 games called God of War
Geez Nintendo, way to not be cool. I don’t see any other company going on this crusade and how else are we supposed to play these games? You’re sure as hell not giving us a Virtual Console. I hate Nintendo sometimes.
If they gave us a decent virtual console with all their old games upscaled available to buy then I could understand why they would suddenly want to shut this stuff down. But they seem uninterested in giving retro fans what they want, usual Nintendo doing what they think is best rather than listening to their fanbase. It would be a win-win for them. We could download gamecube, N64 and snes games for a few pounds each, and they would take lots of cash with very little work.
Thats only for Nintendo's own games too, so it doesnt solve the problem. Some of the old companies that made games back then dont exist anymore.
I was heavily disappointed to learn the NES and SNES mini only had HDMI. These games are meant to be played on old tube TVs.
or we can just keep downloading mediocre games and you can turn the cheek
Come on, don't act like most of the downloads from these sites aren't all about piracy. This wasn't some noble cause.
Agreed, it's one thing if you own the game, but most will just be thinking "Oh great free games".
Yep, pretty damn much
oh come on guys this is the internet no need to act like you're all saints...i'm sure we've all downloaded something we didn't own at one point or another, get off your internet high horses plz.
Yeah I can't understand those trying to justify their actions. There's absolutely no fault to Nintendo here. A site was distributing licenced software for free illegally. End of. If you want to pirate these games then so be it. There's plenty of sources still available but don't try and fool yourself that it is anything but piracy
Most of these games can't be purchased anymore. There are thousands and thousands of games that are out there that are simply impossible to get your hands on. It's not like the devs of these games care. Really the only one who seems to care is Nintendo.
Publishers can't be expected to manufacture and distribute a certain software forever though. It's bound to happen eventually. That doesn't give anyone a just cause to illegally obtain licenced material. Like I said I couldn't actually care less if someone wants to pirate these games, no skin off my nose. I just find it comical that they seem to find some divine right in doing so
Just because a game can't be purchased anymore doesn't give you the right to it.
Is hard to say its piracy when the company that made the game is no longer available. For example, Hudson Soft made lots of NES/Snes games that company no longer exists. So is it piracy for getting games from dead companies?
"Most of these games can't be purchased anymore." That argument is bunk. Whether a game is available to purchase doesn't mean that it's legal to download the ROM. Downloading/distributing ROMs/ISOs is illegal. Period. Even if you already own the game. --- "So is it piracy for getting games from dead companies?" Yes.
Some gamers are concerned about data/game preservation.
You can preserve games without having them accessible through downloading over a website though.
Oh come on. This is entirely about piracy.
What about dead studios and old, obscure games?
@metal What about them? Again preservation doesn’t mean having a library accessible to download at your whim.
Agreed, especially if say gaming company no longer exists.
"Some gamers are concerned about data/game preservation." that's the same argument as "homebrew." there are lots of different, legal avenues you can take to obtain these old games. and if you're truly that concerned about preservation, buy the game, and make a legal backup for your own personal use instead of illegally downloading the ROM. "What about dead studios and old, obscure games?" the law still applies.
You all bring up very valid points. Now, find me a copy of Zeddas Horror Tour by Caravan Interactive. Price should be reasonable, and please keep it legal.
Sometimes Nintendo can be really disgusting and this is one of those times. How else am I suppose to play Ocarina of time, Mario sunshine, goldeneye, Pokémon DX, Mario 64, and so on If you don’t give us a way to download them? If you won’t sell them then we’ll find other ways to get it.
“How else am I suppose to play Ocarina of time, Mario sunshine, goldeneye, Pokémon DX, Mario 64, and so on If you don’t give us a way to download them?” Umm you can actually still buy them? Games like Mario 64 and Ocarina of Times are still available for the 3DS you know.
While that's true it doesn't speak anything of Crystalis, Secret of Evermore, Breath of Fire, and many many other great games people are losing access to.
I would rather not play on that low quality handheld version and would prefer a remaster on a more powerful system. I like the original game anyway. Also the 3ds doesn’t cover any of the other games I want:
What about games from dead companies
You can buy some but not all, and certainly not most. That's why rom sites exist. This is an argument that has gone on for ages. Claims of piracy destroying a "billion" dollar industry.
sometimes ?, more like very very often.
It’s too late, so many people already have the ROMs. The site is still active, I have been on there today.
The site is still active, but they have removed all of their roms, not just Nintendo ones either, we are talking every single one of them for every single console. The site will die without them.
Wait, weren't MS and Nintendo the good guys when they wanted share play?
And they still are if they continue to do so. As it"s great for us & something that even the devs who makes the games that we enjoy certainly want. And all the reaching that you"re currently attempting that would make even Reed Richards blush doesn't change that fact. As what the hell does that have to do with people feeling entitled & wanting shit for free here? Lord_Sloth1h ago While that's true it doesn't speak anything of Crystalis, Secret of Evermore, Breath of Fire, and many many other great games people are losing access to. Well to be fair, they can just go to e-bay or something. And even if that is not their cup of tea or they want to avoid extreme mark ups they could always go to the flea market, a retro game store or even a Comic Con et cetera & look for those games. As I have seen at least 2 of those games out in the wild (Crystalis & Secret Of Evermore) without even trying or looking for them at those places.
If obtaining the games were as easy as you make it seem then these sites wouldn't even exist.
It would be nice of Nintendo to start offering some of these ROMS on a monthly basis to subscribers of Nintendo Online when it launches for Switch next month. An PS + style service could benefit both Nintendo and the consumer long term.
That’s why retro is important to me as a collector.
Shit i used to get roms off of there all the time For my phone.
Must mean Nintendo is getting ready to charge extra for some Xmas retro gaming fun before they abandon their system
private trackers is were its at , also use a vpn :P
What's a good torrent site that wont infect your computer?
ROMs are great and all but no one should be shocked or mad here, Nintendo literally owns these games and yes they haven't offered some to purchase again, but they OWN the games and the rights to distribute. Any company would do this and some have.
This article is not about that.
Yes, we understand that they own them, but they are assholes. Games dating back to the 80's that have been distributed on consoles and handhelds that have come out over the last 30+ years. Copyrights need to permanently expire after 30 years, that's what I say.
Nope it does not concern me, because I never used it and never was going to either.
Hopefully more ROM sites will pop up in its place
bew hew no more free stuff my entitlement itches
nope, we are talking about the Internet here , the question is can Nintendo shutdown the Internet ?, yeah Nintendo you do that. XD , also this will cause the opposite reaction, this will cause more game rom sites to emerge!, hahaha good job Nintendo.
In all fairness, it's not confirmed that Nintendo was specifically responsible for shutting Emuparadise down, as the site's creator didn't denounce any exact entity. But in terms of the whole situation; I used to be a big pirate when I was younger and didn't have my own income. Now that I work as a gaming journalist, I've gained far more respect and appreciation for devs, the laws and since I have my own income, I've stopped pirating altogether long ago. Not trying to be on a high horse; I know how some people reason why this is "okay", even if it really isn't. It would be nice if ALL the gaming companies would provide simple and affordable means to legally access their old titles, similar to what's happening with movies and music.
You know Nintendo, if you made your games available or allowed your games to work with each new console you release then you wouldn't have this problem to begin with. Of course there are a few exceptions like some of the old Rare games that Nintendo no longer have rights for.
Yeah, I find it weird so many people are attacking Nintendo for the lack of Virtual console when just last gen I remember people complaining that Wii games didn't transfer over to Wii U. What Nintendo, or someone else for that matter, needs to do is create a service akin to Steam that's purely for purchasing and then emulating old games. When a new console comes out they could port the Steam-like program over and add in support for the new controllers. Then people would be able to play their old library on the new console.
Is due to all these remasters sold as brand new games regardless if is Nintendo, Sony, etc. That they want to destroy ROMS for ROMS equals zero profit for console manufacturers. I said as gamers we should fight back and continue with the ROM community.
Who gives a damn its just a game, and at the end of the day it means nothing.
It’s funny how we had access to emulation and roms and yet SNES and NES Classic are the top selling consoles for the past two or three months.
Because the general public knows nothing about emulating. Which is the main reason roms and sites like Emuparadise cost Nintendo nothing.
I genuinely think there should be a definition of abandonware that makes it legal to redistribute old games that aren’t sold/sellable, after 10ish years. (?) Sony’s take on this is interesting too, remastering games mean people want to buy it again. Nobody is losing money from me collecting MAME roms and old Amiga games. On the few occasions where someone HAS ported an Amiga game I’ve often bought it anyway. Many of the original ip holders don’t care, certainly. So having Nintendo come along and stop everyone from being able to do it is a bit strange. Emuparadise was great for more obscure systems like pc engine, sharp x68000 and the 32x. Etc, and playing this stuff is important to anyone interested in game design and the history of the medium. Maybe they should just make it into a site about emus now instead because that’s what I always thought of with it’s url anyway. 😂
Lol, good luck with that Nintendo. Nobody can defeat the internet.
booo screw Nintendo, long live emulation
i love turtles and Nintendo needs to burn in h3ll
Old games really old games they made their money already old games I played NBA street Vol 3 in 4k on my alienware alpha in 4k can I even buy a 4k version or the game at all from a website is this game even still being produced
Once unrelevant but now that they are selling NES and SNES that makes it relevant. Guess I'll flash some games on to my SNES Classic while I can....
The bottom line is money. Nintendo sees a financial opportunity to make more money on their licensed retro games. I do not blame them for wanting to shut down all illegal rom/emulator sites. Sad but true. Nobody wants their stuff stolen, no matter how wealthy they might be.
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