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Nintendo’s Shutdown of Emuparadise Should Concern Us All

Why ROM preservation is important, and why Emuparadise's demise is not a good sign.

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Gridknac2471d ago

Until they can shut down torrent sharing, they aren't stopping jack shit. You can get every emulator and rom Emuparadise had through torrents. So long as one person has it and is willing to share, ROM preservation is not going anywhere. Besides, this is only one site, others will fill the void in time.

BigTrain2471d ago (Edited 2471d ago )

Everything you're saying is true, but still the fact that Nintendo specifically seeks to stop places like Emuparadise in and of itself is concerning. Gaming as a hobby is loved and adored in such a manner that its community treats games as timeless works of art. Nintendo's actions practically comes off as a mass book burning that seems to steer the industry in a direction that will cause these timeless treasures to all but disappear.

Muzikguy2470d ago

I've been noticing some players in the industry have already been trying to do this, even if unintentionally. Remakes can take away from the original especially when they don't do it justice. Reboots are just stupid IMO. Although I've heard good things about the new God of War. I still think they could have called it something else. In a sense, it's starting to erase the original because now there are 2 games called God of War

CrimsonWing692471d ago

Geez Nintendo, way to not be cool. I don’t see any other company going on this crusade and how else are we supposed to play these games? You’re sure as hell not giving us a Virtual Console. I hate Nintendo sometimes.

starsi3602471d ago

If they gave us a decent virtual console with all their old games upscaled available to buy then I could understand why they would suddenly want to shut this stuff down. But they seem uninterested in giving retro fans what they want, usual Nintendo doing what they think is best rather than listening to their fanbase.

It would be a win-win for them. We could download gamecube, N64 and snes games for a few pounds each, and they would take lots of cash with very little work.

Ristul2471d ago

Thats only for Nintendo's own games too, so it doesnt solve the problem. Some of the old companies that made games back then dont exist anymore.

PurpHerbison2471d ago

I was heavily disappointed to learn the NES and SNES mini only had HDMI. These games are meant to be played on old tube TVs.

cj1pate1012470d ago

or we can just keep downloading mediocre games and you can turn the cheek

yomfweeee2471d ago

Come on, don't act like most of the downloads from these sites aren't all about piracy. This wasn't some noble cause.

MrSec842471d ago

Agreed, it's one thing if you own the game, but most will just be thinking "Oh great free games".

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zackeroniii2471d ago

oh come on guys this is the internet no need to act like you're all saints...i'm sure we've all downloaded something we didn't own at one point or another, get off your internet high horses plz.

monkey6022471d ago

Yeah I can't understand those trying to justify their actions. There's absolutely no fault to Nintendo here. A site was distributing licenced software for free illegally. End of.

If you want to pirate these games then so be it. There's plenty of sources still available but don't try and fool yourself that it is anything but piracy

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monkey6022471d ago

Publishers can't be expected to manufacture and distribute a certain software forever though. It's bound to happen eventually. That doesn't give anyone a just cause to illegally obtain licenced material. Like I said I couldn't actually care less if someone wants to pirate these games, no skin off my nose. I just find it comical that they seem to find some divine right in doing so

yomfweeee2471d ago

Just because a game can't be purchased anymore doesn't give you the right to it.

agent45322471d ago

Is hard to say its piracy when the company that made the game is no longer available. For example, Hudson Soft made lots of NES/Snes games that company no longer exists. So is it piracy for getting games from dead companies?

ziggurcat2471d ago

"Most of these games can't be purchased anymore."

That argument is bunk. Whether a game is available to purchase doesn't mean that it's legal to download the ROM. Downloading/distributing ROMs/ISOs is illegal. Period. Even if you already own the game.

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"So is it piracy for getting games from dead companies?"

Yes.

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MetalGearsofWar2471d ago

Some gamers are concerned about data/game preservation.

septemberindecember2471d ago

You can preserve games without having them accessible through downloading over a website though.

Razzer2471d ago

Oh come on. This is entirely about piracy.

MetalGearsofWar2471d ago

What about dead studios and old, obscure games?

septemberindecember2471d ago

@metal

What about them?
Again preservation doesn’t mean having a library accessible to download at your whim.

agent45322471d ago

Agreed, especially if say gaming company no longer exists.

ziggurcat2471d ago

"Some gamers are concerned about data/game preservation."

that's the same argument as "homebrew." there are lots of different, legal avenues you can take to obtain these old games. and if you're truly that concerned about preservation, buy the game, and make a legal backup for your own personal use instead of illegally downloading the ROM.

"What about dead studios and old, obscure games?"

the law still applies.

MetalGearsofWar2470d ago (Edited 2470d ago )

You all bring up very valid points. Now, find me a copy of Zeddas Horror Tour by Caravan Interactive. Price should be reasonable, and please keep it legal.

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StormLegend2471d ago

Sometimes Nintendo can be really disgusting and this is one of those times. How else am I suppose to play Ocarina of time, Mario sunshine, goldeneye, Pokémon DX, Mario 64, and so on If you don’t give us a way to download them? If you won’t sell them then we’ll find other ways to get it.

King_Noctis2471d ago (Edited 2471d ago )

“How else am I suppose to play Ocarina of time, Mario sunshine, goldeneye, Pokémon DX, Mario 64, and so on If you don’t give us a way to download them?”

Umm you can actually still buy them? Games like Mario 64 and Ocarina of Times are still available for the 3DS you know.

Lord_Sloth2471d ago

While that's true it doesn't speak anything of Crystalis, Secret of Evermore, Breath of Fire, and many many other great games people are losing access to.

StormLegend2471d ago

I would rather not play on that low quality handheld version and would prefer a remaster on a more powerful system. I like the original game anyway. Also the 3ds doesn’t cover any of the other games I want:

agent45322471d ago

What about games from dead companies

BigTrain2471d ago

You can buy some but not all, and certainly not most. That's why rom sites exist. This is an argument that has gone on for ages. Claims of piracy destroying a "billion" dollar industry.

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masterfox2471d ago

sometimes ?, more like very very often.

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Alex Hutchinson on Why Google Stadia Failed and What Cloud Gaming Needs to Succeed

Alex Hutchinson talks about Google Stadia, how Xbox compares, and what cloud gaming needs to move forward.

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Goodguy011d 5h ago

Cloud gaming still has too many flaws. Fast stable internet, extra costs/subscription services, not ideal for mobile data and why play over cloud via wifi when you have a console/pc that has no input delay and other issues, why buy a game on a cloud service (will always need online even if it's a single player game) when you can actually own it on console/pc...at the same price. Cloud gaming should only ever stay as an option to gaming and playing your games that you already own. Never as the only option.

Tacoboto6h ago

I disagree, in the sense that the flaws are and have been these same known quantities for some time. You know you need fast and stable internet for the best experience. You know it isn't just free beyond Remote Play. Ownership - you know what ecosystem you're in.

Cloud Gaming is awesome when it's there as the most viable option at the time and works. For me, it was like this morning on my laptop playing Pentiment waiting for my car service to finish. For others it's to quick demo a new game before thinking of hard drive space. Maybe Mac users with gigabit internet want to play GeForce Now and buy a game off Steam only to play it that way.

isarai21h ago

As long as latency exists, cloud gaming will never thrive no matter how much they advertise that there's low latency or no latency that always ends up being a load of crap

Terry_B13h ago

I will never support cloud gaming.

darthv7213h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I quite enjoy cloud streaming now. I find it the quickest way to testing if a game is worth committing download time or even $ to buy it. And using dedicated devices like the portal and gcloud makes it all the better.

But like Goodguy says... it's an option, and not the only one. If people understand that, they may start to appreciate this convenience.

lex-102011h ago

I think Xbox is doing Cloud Streaming right, even if I think its only because they're doing hardware wrong.

By enabling xCloud on The Xbox One and Series S they enable players to buy the cheaper console but play games in better resolutions through xCould.

Take the recent Oblivion release for instance. If you play it locally on a Series S it's rendered at 630P and upscaled using FSR to 1260P with a 30FPS cap.

But if you play it on xCloud on the Series S, it's at 1080P native 60 FPS.

So you can get better performance using xCloud then playing local (on the Series S and Xbox One).

CrimsonWing6913h ago

It shouldn’t have required a subscription service. Like do the Steam model and just take the % on software sales or have a sub tier where you pay monthly or annually and get perks.

I’m not opposed to the idea of being able to stream games in the highest quality, but Stadia was so poorly handled it turned into a massive sh*t show.

lex-102011h ago

"It shouldn’t have required a subscription service."

It didn't

"Like do the Steam model and just take the % on software sales or have a sub tier where you pay monthly or annually and get perks."

That's literally what it was. Stadia pro gave 2 free games a month (similar to PS+), 4K visuals, and 5.1 Surround Sound. But if you didn't want to pay you could simply buy the games and play them in 1080P. The core service was free.

But google massively screwed up the marketing which led to people thinking it needed a sub to use.

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PSN Store "PlayStation Indies" Sale Kicks Off

Sony has launched the PlayStation Indies sale this week, offering steep discounts on over 2,000 games from indie developers.

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The Epic Games Store Has Two More Freebies This Week

The Epic Games Store has a AAA Freebie this week, and another to put a smile on your face.

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