Meet the Chinese console that's like PS4 Pro - but with AMD's next-gen CPU

AMD has collaborated with hardware manufacturer Zhongshan Subor to create custom console hardware for the Chinese market - and first impressions suggest a h…

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Very interesting

[Nebaku]

Which is more than we can say about your riveting commentary on the matter.

[monkeyfox]

... And yours! :)

[ILostMyMind]

Why do some companies insist on these mini-PCs for gaming? Scam, maybe. It doesn't have the PC's power neither the console's games.

[phoenixwing]

don't outright decry it as a scam. China is a big untapped territory that is new to gaming. If you were to get a foothold in china your potential sales would be beyond any other territory. For this reason it's almost a way to backdoor into the console wars. China only recently lifted it's ban on video games so they're all new customers to these companies and have no allegience atm. It's a very good time to strike if you're a chinese company seriously considering throwing your hat in the ring.

Edit: Beyond any other territory means = more people buying it because as i hope most know, china's population is huge

[PiNkFaIrYbOi]

Just because they have a lot of people, doesn't mean that there will be a market for the product.

[ILostMyMind]

Does not matter. Still it is better to buy a PC or a traditional console than that, even there.

[Knightofelemia]

It's a cool looking machine

[SpringHeeledJack]

Wonder where they learned to make that? Hacked Sony or Microsoft most likely.

[senorfartcushion]

While they hack the companies, the companies hack consumers like us so I wouldn't exactly feel like a warrior for coming to the age of thieving conglomerates.

[FGHFGHFGH]

It says right there they collaborated with AMD. AMD makes the chips in xbox and ps4

[Profchaos]

I'm cautious of all chineese products it will probably never actually make it to market in Australia US or Europe for the same reason Chinese phones are shuned despite being technically better.

In China the businesses that make electronics can have a data share agreement with the government some phone manufacturers have been caught up in scandals like this.

Now imagine your ps4 or xb1 with a camera and Mic recording everything you say and do in the living room and sending it back or making it accessible to view remotely

[Tankbusta40]

Any Chinese tech is tied to the govt and should be avoided like the plague

[Drithe]

You never know. One day China may take over the gaming industry. Right now their government is stopping that.

[Tsar4ever01]

Yeah I saw this on Redgamingtech on youtube. It;s GPU is just under the Pro but it's cpu is a RyZEN 4 core/8T.

PS5 will stomp these specs though. For what we know of right now the PS5 will have a APU soc on *RyZEN *Plus- 8 cores cores/16T with a NAVI GPU(*at least as strong as a Vega 64 gpu) GDDR6 memory, not sure of the amount, I think it's 16gb but I hear from some people that Sony will be "cheaping out" And assume the PS5 can get by on only 14gb. Here's hoping their wrong and it'll be 16GB.

[Weeblordbad]

Yeah, consoles are going to get the equivalent of a Ryzen 7 2***, and Vega 64...of course. You're only looking at 400w tdp, and the cost at retail is the equivalent of about two PS4 Pros.

You guys are getting a custom SoC just like the current one. You're getting a cpu and GPU pairing that brings an appreciable increase in performance, without cranking the power, heat and cost through the roof.

It's also going to use memory that isn't in any production cards, has only just recently spun up full scale production. Of course! Because memory bandwidth was definitely the largest bottleneck! It had nothing to do with a 5400rpm laptop drive.

Expect a SATA SSD, the same GDDR5 just larger capacity, less cores but higher clock speeds and a GPU that doesn't double as a space heater. Expecting Navi, or Vega is like expecting Fiji and HBM memory in the Pro or One X. It's not feasible in a box you have to sell for 500 maximum.

[Wintersun616]

Why is this compared to PS4 if it obviously can't play PS4 games?

[clouds5]

Looks cool! But consoles are only as good as its games. Hardware almost doesn't matter (unless it's Wii territory :D)

[Mr_Writer85]

The day I buy one of these is the day that a PC that is as powerful than any console, and is also the cheapest option.

As much as people on here like to think, power doesn't sell consoles, yes we like shiny new graphics. But price and games mean more than anything.

It's the reason the X1X hasn't set the world alight (for proof simply look at MS lack of willingness to talk numbers) and the reason why the PS4 is in the lead, and why the Switch (the weakest but cheapest and has great games) is catching up.

[Einhander1971]

It’s all well and good but it wont be playing PS4 games will it. This article goes on about small form pcs, basically that’s what PS4 and Xbox are anyway custom built architecture for console form. I will wait for ps5 and Xbox 2 thanks.

[monkeyfox]

Companies will keep chipping away at this idea until it sticks. Consoles are becoming more like PCs and PCs could do with borrowing a few elements from consoles in my opinion.

This convergence *will* happen one way or the other.

[Phoenix76]

It's a nice looking machine, with some nice specs to it........ Shame it will likely never see light of day over here in the West.

[deno]

Probably has some kind of virus that way it can steal your personal info after setup. Communist console!

[tontontam0]

People would actually buy these if devs actually tries to optimize their games for it, but sadly they just treat this devices like a pc.

[NextGenCeo]

People should learn What is the mean Gaming Console! Some stupid people still calling every single PC hardware box a Console! Why? Or what is the requirements for a calling a PC box instead of Console.
(ESL guy)

[Tankbusta40]

Let me guess...it steals your credit info???

[strayanalog]

Subor? Interesting. Subor was producing illegal rip-offs of the NES and Mega Drive for Russian and CIS markets in the early 90s.