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The Deafening Silence In Camp Sony Should Be Frightening For Its Competitors

GameRVW takes a look at the other side of the coin, and what the future may hold for Sony and its flagship PlayStation console.

Eonjay2129d ago

There are many layers to this. First the PS4 is so successful that Microsoft probably wants nothing more than for the PS4 gen to end. Second, as Drake mentioned "a wise man once said nothing at all". The Xbox One X was featured last E3 and this E3 Microsoft is already talking about a successor? The announcement of new hardware isn't gonna help sales of older hardware. Microsoft is so scared of having inferior hardware that they are already trying to set expectations this far in advance.

And with the rumors of Navi being made for the PS5 maybe they should be scared.

The truth is they haven't been silent at all. They just aren't as heavy to the PR constant spin, headline grabbing, twitter persona fest as the main competitor.

Srhalo2129d ago (Edited 2129d ago )

I feel like Microsoft has given up on growth and is just focusing on the core. it's the only explanation for why they keep talking about future devices so early. The non-core who hears a new console is right around the corner is just going to wait.

I feel like the X for example is mostly being bought by people who previously had an One versus new owners.

Obscure_Observer2128d ago (Edited 2128d ago )

@Srhalo

"I feel like the X for example is mostly being bought by people who previously had an One versus new owners."

I agree. but there´s a lot of Playstation and Nintendo console owners that never ever had an Xbox console before. IMO, the X is far more appealing to non Xbox gamers than the OG Xbox One ever was.

Phil Spencer´s Xbox One consoles are far better than Mattrick´s OG Xbox One console.

Goldby2128d ago

@obsure

I'd have to disagree on the one x statement.

The s would be far more appealing than the one x for non xbox players, at least Imo.

Why spend 500$+ for a console you would only be playing a handful of games on. No one would start their collection over just to brag about 4k on exclusives and 3rd party titles they already own on playstation.

If I were to buy one. I'm not going anywhere near the x. Waste of money when I can get the same thing out of the one s.

Aenea2128d ago

@obscure

Ehh, no, don't think the One X is more appealing if you've never owned an X1 before. If people buy an X1 now and already own a PS4, it's because they want to play exclusives and let's face it there aren't enough to warrant the price of the One X when a One S is more than sufficient for that. Someone heavily invested in PS4 isn't suddenly going to change preferred platforms, their friends won't go with and their trophies and all their bought games aren't being transfered automatically either so the PS4 will still be their main console.

If you only own the Switch, hmm, well, then there are quite a few games on X1 that aren't on the Switch and then suddenly a One X might be more appealing to some, then again if you only own a Switch at this moment in time you probably don't care all that much about power and resolution.

So no, the One S is still the most appealing Xbox for non Xbox gamers...

Obscure_Observer2128d ago (Edited 2128d ago )

@Goldby @Aenea

"The s would be far more appealing than the one x for non xbox players, at least Imo."

Fair point. But notice that i said that (imo) the X is far more appealing for non Xbox players when in comparission with the OG Xbox One back in the day. Obviously because it was underpowered and overpriced at launch thanks to mandatory Kinect. I wasn´t talking about the S, which is also a "Phil Spencer´s console".

"If I were to buy one. I'm not going anywhere near the x. Waste of money when I can get the same thing out of the one s."

I disagree. You can´t get the same out of the S. If you buy an Xbox console because of exclusives, one would guess that you want the best from those games. Both visually and performance.

In the end all comes down to personal preference. But for what i understand, you can´t have native 4K Games on the S for your brand new 4K tv. You´ll not be able to play Forza Horizon 4 at 60fps or even Gears 5 on SP mode at 60fps either just to name a few. Now, if you are a console only gamer, whose neither more games at 60fps whose also has way higher resolutions aren´t your thing, then yes, the S would be the perfect choice for you. :)

Edited - @Aenea

"Someone heavily invested in PS4 isn't suddenly going to change preferred platforms, their friends won't go with and their trophies and all their bought games aren't being transfered automatically either so the PS4 will still be their main console."

Miss, nobody said anything about PS4 owners leaving Playstation for Xbox. Please, don´t turn this conversation into some fanboy bs argument.

Godmars2902128d ago (Edited 2128d ago )

" IMO, the X is far more appealing to non Xbox gamers than the OG Xbox One ever was."

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Try, more expensive. It's accurate.

jaydiggler2128d ago

Probably mostly true, I had the One and the S and I upgraded to the X. But I personally have 3 friends that never owned a microsoft console before and they purchased the X, so there is some appeal to non xbox owners.

Jinger2128d ago (Edited 2128d ago )

"Mostly" may be true, but a couple of my friends and my brother in law bought the X without having a One. The 4k games and 4k player was a big factor in their decision

Goldby2128d ago

Obscure

And that's the issue I have with ms.

If they are only able to hit the 60 fps on their most recent overpriced 3rd console for their racing games, than that's an issue I have with how they develop their games.

I could care less about 4k. Resolution doesn't make a bad game good or a good game great.

Tetris is still Tetris even if it's 4k or even 8k.

For me, only one that would be worth it is the one s cuz the one isn't available any more

kevnb2128d ago

I feel like the x is mostly just sitting on shelves...

slavish02128d ago

People bought xbox s even though they announced x was coming in a year. People still buy xbox when all games are on pc. So no people aren't going to wait because they are working on future hardware. People buy iPhone x knowing there will be a better one next year. There are so many examples of y u dont know what you are talking about

FinalFantasyFanatic2128d ago

@Obscure_Observer,

Yeah, nah, there's almost nothing a Xonex can offer me this gen that I can't get out of my 360 (I'd probably prefer the og xbox over it too). If what little games I do want come to PC then I can safely ignore the Xone all together and invest more heavily into a Switch (I already plan to anyway).

Even 4k is not a compelling argument, I bought a very good 4k TV which has one of the best upscalers, not ideal but very playable. And since I can get almost every game it has on pc, I still win because I can play them in 1440p or 4k.

NeoGamer2322127d ago

That is not true. We see articles quite often on N4G about "Why should Microsoft continue with consoles?" and "Microsoft isn't going to build another console because they want you on PC".

By stating they have another console coming, they are creating certainty for people that buy and XB that there will be another device. And if they can ship their console with a bunch of great games a year earlier than PS they can may be able to return to the success that the 360 had by shipping a year earlier than PS3.

Microsoft is catering to its core and loyal customers. That is definitely important to keep the market share they do have. But, by going and buying those five studios they are also looking forward in building new games and that has been the biggest complaint about XB is the lack of its own exclusives. So they are addressing the issue.

FinalFantasyFanatic2127d ago

@NeoGamer232,

They could get out first, but the first year for most consoles is generally barren game-wise or it's full of games that release on both new and previous gens. Hopefully those new studios do bring some worthwhile exclusives to the table to make the next xbox relevant.

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Obscure_Observer2128d ago

@Eonjay

"The Xbox One X was featured last E3 and this E3 Microsoft is already talking about a successor?"

Why are you acting to be so surprised? How many idiots said that Xbox was dead and that Xbox One X would be Microsoft´s last console? Phil Spencer has a clear roadmap and defined plan for X´s successor even before the X got released.

FYI, Phil Spencer talked about the X´s successor way before this year´s E3! 4 months before the X even hit your local store´s shelves!

But hey, guess what? Fanboys thought that he was lying! And here we are.

Now you´re informed ;)

gangsta_red2128d ago (Edited 2128d ago )

Agreed, Phil addressed the biggest concerns fans, critics and fanboys had of Xbox and that did include addressing the rumors Xbox going "third party" or getting out of the console business.

He confirmed it was false by saying that they are working on another console.

Would people rather have Phil say nothing then possibly announce and debut the new console next year only so we can come back and complain that MS didn't say anything and forced users to buy an X? Because we all know that's exactly what the narrative would have been if that would happen.

As for the silence from the Sony camp, they've always been this way and maybe it has something to do with just how the Japanese operate. Western devs/publishers are more social media conscience from what I noticed they always like to keep fans/users engaged through some type of interaction online.

Goldby2128d ago

If that was the case, ans he was actually talk g about the new console even before the x was out, he should stop being the head of the division.

The second you start talking about what is coming next, people begin yo hold off buying what's out now for what's coming.

Eonjay2128d ago

The only reason why anyone would think that there would be no new Xbox systems is because no one is really buying it and if Microsoft was really interested in anything besides selling services, it would be putting out content on the level of Sony which doesn't even has as much capital as Microsoft.

IamTylerDurden12128d ago (Edited 2128d ago )

Let's be honest, MS has been doing this all gen. Don't act like Phil needed to clear things up with the opposing fanboys so that is the reason he talked about Scarlet so early.

MS did the same thing with Cloud, DX12, "Scorpio", and now the next Xbox. They hyped each of these things incredibly early before they were actually viable and they did in order to garner hype in the brand. Xbox has been trailing the entire generation and overall it has been extremely lackluster.

People were disappointed when the XB1 came out running games at 720p with a $500 price tag. MS needed to sell people on the promise that their 1.3tf XB1 would magically become more powerful. So they hyped Cloud and DX12 in an unrealistic way and long before they would add any real benefit.

With the disappointment in power and rumors of a more powerful PS4 on the way MS needed something to counter that. They needed excitement and positive brand PR so they announced project Scorpio 18 months before it even released. This also helped kill the hype and sales of PS4 Pro.

trooper_2128d ago

What clear roadmap?

They can't even get new, successful games out of the gate, lol.

FinalFantasyFanatic2128d ago (Edited 2128d ago )

@gangsta_red,

Considering the cultural trends over there, I would believe they don't put too much into having a presence with their users, but with their stellar performance this gen they don't really need to.

As for Microsoft debuting a new console, it's a case of "dammed if you do, dammed if you don't", people would be annoyed or upset either way.

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Tross2128d ago

@Eonjay Yeah, sometimes I wish MS's PR department would STFU, especially since it hasn't actually done them as many favours as they think. Ending the current gen won't be an automatic turnaround for them either, as Sony is definitely planning for the future too. They need to figure out where they went wrong this gen so they don't make the same mistakes, or Sony will trounce them again. I mean, gamers already know where MS went wrong, and here's hoping their latest E3 conference is a sign that they're starting to get it, but I'm not counting on it.

rainslacker2128d ago

Biggest thing is is that Sony has enough to show off and market for the near future, that they don't need to lay out their long term plans to keep people excited for what may come. They can keep people.excited for what were getting soon, and they've set a good expectation that they'll keep delivering. If ms had a decent line up to really be excited for, they wouldn't be talking about 3-4 years from now, or how they may have this great potential if people just give them a chance.

DarkZane2128d ago (Edited 2128d ago )

"First the PS4 is so successful that Microsoft probably wants nothing more than for the PS4 gen to end"

I have no idea why they'd want that, they're just gonna get beaten as badly next-gen. You'd have to be a fool to be in a hurry to get beaten and humiliated again so quickly.

jwillj2k42128d ago

Microsoft is definitely that kid who thinks people are laughing with him...

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UCForce2129d ago (Edited 2129d ago )

Sony doesn’t need to talk. They only talk when it’s necessary. Most of time, they will do more action.

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trooper_2128d ago

Agreed.

They let the games do the talking.