okay this is just ridiculous at this point. 85$ average how the hell is it this bad, you can buy a full game on launch + a game on a sale with that kind of money.
I haven’t spent this much yet but I don’t care to spend a little ever now and then. I’ve played it many hours and continue to play so I feel I get my money’s worth. They release updates and new content at a fast pace and they support their game very well. The only thing I disagree with is how much the charge for cosmetics. Especially the skins.
sure i don't mind paying like 20$ for a F2P game, just so the game can keep on going, but there is no reason that the average spending will be that high, especially when you got other games that are working a lot harder on creating a compelling game at full 60$ price and end up having less revenue. if players on average spend 85$ on F2P games, I don't see why other games don't cost 85$ on launch as well. the consumer definitely seems to show no issue with doing that going by that fortnite survey.
My son has spent more than that on Team Fortress 2... Every chance he gets he is out buying another $20 steam card so he can add more to his in game character.
God forbid he ever discover Fortnite (although he has mentioned it once or twice).
The range of amount spent on in-game purchases is probably very broad. Some people spend a few bucks, while others are willing to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
They proved how inferior loot boxes are as microtransactions. Yes the skins are insanely expensive, but you know exactly what you're getting. I bought a few but Im ok with it because Ive played this game far more than any $60 game.
I've spent $25, which isn't bad considering I've put almost 300 hours into the game. I have a few friends who have already spent $200-$400. Shit is crazy.
This is why I steer clear of ftp trash. Sure, it's my decision to buy in-game or not, but the whole idea is sleazy to me. It preys upon human weakness.
The game is free though. People are spending money on it because they want cosmetics, and that is their own choice. Has no bearing on game mechanics. It's not half as bad as Magic: The Gathering. If you want to keep up in that game with standard decks, people have to spend hundreds a year.
The worst part is that a good portion puff those people spent 0$. There's people like myself that didn't care for the game, and others(like children) that don't have access to a credit card. That means there's some "whales" out there spending absurd amounts of money on digital clothing.
lol please... That’s a choice the player made. Did you skip over the part where it says 1 in 5 still don’t understand that it doesn’t give you an advantage? That it’s all purely cosmetic? What’s the point in making a game if you’re not making some sort of income?
Always an angle isn't there to focus on. This constant need to flip everything around just because in this case they offer paid content. Optional paid content I might add. So let's just focus on how it's not entirely free and just give another little dig and how everything is just terrible. Let's forget how none of the paid content is required but monetized in a way to help maintain the servers, or constantly having to monitor and balance the game. Because you complaining on the internet every day takes a lot more work than what they do. Or are you just upset over how others want to spend their money?
@-Foxtrot Funny, you bring up more than a standard retail game. How's The Last of Us: Remastered? Does It still have those 25+ tackled on add-on's people CAN purchase if they didn't get it on PS3? If you buy all of them, then you're spending over the base price, just around $30 to be exact. It's people's choice. ;)
Easy, players spend a lot of money on MTX => legitimize the usage of predatory techniques to gain money from the player => a huge increase in service games with a massive drop in actual complete single player games
Predatory techniques? It's a free to play game and there are no loot box's so you know exactly what you are buying.
How can you come to the conclusion that there will be a massive drop in single player games? Oh, you must own an Xbox, well sorry guy, you should buy a ps4, there are tons of single player games on that platform.
It's people like you that don't believe in choice, if you don't like it it's bad and no one should have the option to "choose" what to play and what to spend their money on.
There are loot boxes, unless they took out the lamas which last I checked are in the game still those are loot boxes. Secons Epic spends more time adding cosmetics and tracking cheaters than they spend on the game. Third this kind of BS has and continues to be put into and push into games where they dont belong. Fourth its degrading game experiences into low quailty high quantity shallow games they rely on ADHD levels of attention anyone who has an attention span of more than 10 mins (at least Im aware of amoung my game friends and community) dont play the game or got bored after a week or two. Fifth its pushing gaming away from a medium of story telling, which it was at the start of this gen, back to just an arcade experience that is fun for all of 10 mins. Pretty easy to see whats wrong and how its bad unless your the one pumping money hand over fist into an online game that will be dead in 2yrs.
More reason for Sony to share in those Epic profits on playstation. Let's continue to create controversy about one game when it's about **ALL** 3rd party content eventually.
Can you move your content around to other platforms in madden, cod,battlefield, assassin's creed, destiny, etc,etc etc? Nope. When you buy add on content on the same platform, the platform holder makes money too.
As soon as cross progression is allowed, what would be the point of add on content sold on the platform? You could buy it from anywhere and the console holders wouldn't make any money or lose money from lost sales. Might as well put all 3rd party content in the cloud for their games then. Wouldn't be a point of allowing them to sell in the PS,Nin or MS stores.
"Can you move your content around to other platforms in madden, cod,battlefield, assassin's creed, destiny, etc,etc etc?"
Do these companies allow you to do this the same way Epic is letting their customers do for Fortnite? Nope.
So your examples really don't make any sense and have no reason to be applied here. If a company wants to let their users buy and use the content they purchased when accessing their account on another platform why shouldn't they allow it.
This only benefits gamers, us.
It's like if MS locked Gmail accounts you created on Windows if you tried accessing your account on a Mac. (Lmao...or something similar)
"As soon as cross progression is allowed, what would be the point of add on content sold on the platform?"
As soon as you make a purchase on which ever platform that platform gets a percentage. So that platform has made their money. Are you really advocating for platforms to lock out customers just so they can keep the profits of purchase to their system?
"Wouldn't be a point of allowing them to sell in the PS,Nin or MS stores."
There's still a point since most of these sales still come from these platforms. And even still content can be bought from PC and used on PS4 so it must not be hurting Sony that much to allow it.
It really is as simple as it should be Shadow. Why anyone would think it's not or shouldn't be is mad.
Yes it is because we are talking about Fortnite. That's why it's possible on mobile, pc, Xbox One, and Switch. So stop being a slave to a corporation who only cares about money. There's no need for it and frankly it's kind of embarrassing why you would want to put yourself in a situation to try and defend it.
The ONLY reason why it's not that simple is because Sony is making it difficult.
Just FYI, account access would only apply to progression, not purchased content. I think fighting for account access and account progress is what people need, but I don't think they should necessarily have access to content they bought for a specific platform.
To argue for content to be carried over is to argue that buying a game on one platform should allow you access to that game on any other platform. That's just not how businesses work. My Neverwinter game purchases/characters/everythin g on Xbox One did not transfer to my PS4 either. It's just how things work and there's a business reason to it.
Hmmmmm, I could have sworn that account access also gave you access to the items and skins bought for your character. Which was one of the main draws about Fortnite and playing it on other devices.
If I was wrong than I apologise @shadowapocalypse.
But I agree the next step is for users with a third party account not only being able to access their progress and stats but also being able to access items bought.
I'm sure you've spent money on things that other people would consider stupid. Cigarettes? Drugs, booze, fast food? Maybe even a CoD game lol. Also, some people just have alot of money, and spending it is of no concern to them.
Wow, stop there, skins and colors can be totaly free and actually its was free before MTs and mobile games in-app purchase was a thing. However, cigarettes, food, and any kinds of luxury and basic needs are actual products need to sell at certain price or else its total lose. But skins are just designs and colors is something so silly and they are free in a loooooot of games, yet these shooters companies can't stop milking and act low.
i spent at least 25 bucks on the season's pass and some points. Also im not a ps plus sub and i still get to play online for free unlike the xboxone version thats locked behind live gold.
Toxic and this is hurting the industry. The problem is that these players are not even a real gamers, they are COD players and Overwatch trollers and thats it.
And children. I can see a lot of other publishers just drooling at this news. You can almost bet there will be a lot of good dev teams put on shitty cash grab F2P games instead of making the real gaming experiences that many of us want.
I'll admit I got a little caught up in Fortnite months back and just had to spend money to get the Raven outfit I thought it looked too amazing and now I don't even touch the game anymore
That's not too bad. That's a game and season pass. If you're playing a game enough and that's pretty much the most you spend on it, it works out. Of course, if you spend hundreds or even thousands, that's when it becomes ridiculous.
okay this is just ridiculous at this point. 85$ average how the hell is it this bad, you can buy a full game on launch + a game on a sale with that kind of money.
Funny thing is they’d still turn around and say how the game is “free”
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$85 bucks, what did you have to pay for your ammo?!