Naughty Dog is Not Phased By Outraged Critics - The Last of Us Part II at E3 2018

"Naughty Dog was met with a lot of criticism after its second trailer for The Last of Us Part II debuted during Paris Games Week last year. The trailer featured some intense and graphic moments of characters brutally fighting each other to stay alive. Needless to say, it didn't sit right with a lot of people. While I'm not going to dive deep into which side of that argument is correct, there is one thing that's for sure, internet outra ge will not affect Naughty Dog's vision for The Last of Us Part II." -- PlayStation Enthusiast

[Nyxus]

Good, stick to your vision.

[Gaming_1st]

Exactly right. You guys have delivered time and time again. We do not not need some kid "Septic" saying otherwise, with opinions.. But unfortunately i will be passing this game up, even though i know it will be quality.

[SuperSonic91]

Its the lesbian kissing that made me uncomfortable

[ravinash]

Watching the guy pull his toe nail off in death stranding made me feel uncomfortable, but i'm still going to get it.

[Gaming_1st]

It's about what they are projecting. And unfortunately, me and mid aged guy's will not support this as we have in the past. So i'm sure it will do strong numbers amongst for the 30 and below, cause they give 2 craps about society. But i am almost possible it will drop off.

P.S. Btw this is my opinion, i'm sure some people will not agree with me. But discuss your opinion to change my mind.

[Razzer]

"And unfortunately, me and mid aged guy's will not support this as we have in the past. So i'm sure it will do strong numbers amongst for the 30 and below, cause they give 2 craps about society. "

And who elected you to represent "mid aged guys"? I'm over 40. You don't speak for me, pal. Stop pretending you do. And it is hilarious that you believe that anyone who buys this game doesn't "give 2 craps about society." It is a damn video game. Also hilarious that you just generalized an entire age group of people. Yeah....you are so damn wise. lol

"But i am almost possible it will drop off."

lol....what?

[RauLeCreuset]

"P.S. Btw this is my opinion, i'm sure some people will not agree with me. But discuss your opinion to change my mind."

Not every uneducated thought someone lacks the discipline to keep to themselves is deserving of debate.

[FPS_D3TH]

Lmfao you don’t speak for all middle age men buddy. Most of us aren’t as close minded and let a lesbian kiss get in the way of enjoying a game. This toxic gaming community might not but thankfully the rest of the modern world and society do give two craps about enjoying quality games, story and a wider variety of characters. People crying about subliminal and political messages in their games should take a second to see who exactly is making their games and why it should be no surprise that characters like Ellie or women in BFV are in games today. It’s a hard fact to swallow for the ignorant spinfoil hat wearing crowd of this page who are upset games aren’t just made by white males anymore but it’s just telling of how little some of these gamers are actually going outside.

[ravinash]

I'm 42 and I've got no problem with it.

[morganfell]

"If 2 women kissing makes you uncomfortable you might need help"

Why was my thought how to become the meat in that sandwich and other people are having meltdowns?

Regarding the violence this made me feel so good. Its what I have always said about TLOU MP here and elsewhere. It is the most brutal and personal killing in Multiplayer gaming and its roots are born in the Single Player campaign.

[soulrebel]

@Gaming_1st if you think all 'mid-aged guys' are as archaic as you are then you're wrong. Most of us are proud of the progress society is making. That's right; acceptance is progress. You must hate the direction all media is heading if you are uncomfortable with the lesbian scene in the Last of Us. Society will continue to mature to celebrate individuals having their own say what is right for them, so long as those values don't harm anyone else.

I'm afraid that if you're hoping for acceptance to 'drop off' as you put it, you're in for a disappointment.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

I'm not too happy about the lesbian kissing either but I'm still going to get the game but I completely understand why someone would not because of that.

[KickSpinFilter]

"Once you hit your 40's you will understand"
Yes you will. As a cardholder member of the 40's age group we don't care how other people live their life.
Perhaps I did in my teenage years, but not anymore. It's much more accurate that intimate relations of polygons is what is uncomfortable, such as the one that takes place in GOW3, that one is extremely uncomfortable. The one in TLOU2 is done very well, but still is uncomfortable not because of it's LGB but due to it being polygons.

As far as TLOU2 goes you might be missing out one of the best games this generation if not all time.
I have experienced it all from the impossibility of controlling something on your TV with Sears Pong to the hopeful challenger to topple the best game I have ever played TLOU. If what we saw in that TLOU2 gameplay trailer comes to fruition with the best animation transitions/combat/environment s/story I have ever seen in gaming. I'm also pretty sure it will be the fastest selling PS4 game that will easily clear what the original PS3/4 has sold. You will be truly missing out in a "Gaming_1st" masterpiece. But much like I don't care what LGB do nor do I care if you play said game. I personally would not miss out on such a game.

[bloop]

@Gaming_1st: I'm 38 and I'll be getting this day one. I don't see anything wrong with adult men wanting to play a game with adult themes and content. In fact, it's the other way around for me. I have an older brother that only plays Nintendo games, Mario being his favourite, and has no interest in anything rated mature/18. That to me is weird. Maybe I should hook you two guys up and you can play some Mario kart and stay in your own fairy land together??

[darthv72]

I'm 45 and it doesnt really bother me all that much. I have been playing games since pong as well and i can say that over this last decade there has been a shift of acceptance in gaming like there has been in real life. Maybe more so in gaming because real life if someone doesnt accept things then violence erupts and real people get injured or worse. In a game, it is just a game but even games are getting more real. Some call it the uncanny valley and as games become more about art imitating life then i can see how it can turn some people off.

On a side note, if this game had not shown the kissing and just left that for the player to see themselves on their own time then this prob would not have been an issue. The violence and story is what sets the game apart, not the sexual tone so that to me felt forced when it didnt have to be there. They could just as easily had the same quality trailer and left some things for people to uncover on their own. the game isnt about Ellie on her journey of discovering what kind of sexual preference she wants.... its about survival and kicking ass in the process. (that scene is most likely a memory or flashback)

[Parasyte]

Let me guess, you also think being gay is a choice?

[JokerBoy422]

@SuperSonic91 it did seem a little forced. Even Ellie made an uncomfortable face at first. If that were a straight kiss scene liberals would've screamed rape.

[kreate]

I'm mid aged. And I'm not uncomfortable.

[CryofSilence]

Too many homophobes in this world.

[Cobra951]

I'm quite a bit older than all the above given ages, and I actually enjoy two attractive women doing all sorts of things to each other. Anyone remember the old Doublemint commercials? "Double your pleasure, double your fun." It's sausage parties that I'm too old to stomach.

[yeahright2]

@gaming_1st. the irony of your username....

[Kombatologist]

What are they projecting that's so bad exactly? And what middle-aged guys do you speak of? I turn 38 this year and I am absolutely stoked about this game. I'm also a straight male and not offended by two girls kissing -- or two guys for that matter. Love is love. Get with the times, man.

I think people are focusing on the wrong thing. When the first TLoU2 trailer dropped, there was a lot of speculation that Joel is actually dead (hence Ellie's behavior) and just a figment of Ellie's imagination. But this new trailer raises even more questions. This apparent relationship between Ellie and the other girl may have some significance to the story.

I, for one, can't wait to see how it all plays out.

[Muzikguy]

I’m 34 and have no problem with it. It’s one of my most anticipated games. I’m amazed at how you can sum up all “mid aged guys” with your opinion. Granted I know a lot that don’t like change or can’t see far from the front of their own noses, but the world is much bigger than that and always has been.

[cell989]

I’m 33 and I get where you’re coming from. I just don’t like it when they push agendas on my video games. Yes Ellie can be gay, I have no problem with that. But I much rather not see lesbians kissing, same as I’ve never liked sex scenes in my video games. Does it really add to the story? And if so, is it really the only way to tell the story?

Anyway, I’ll be getting the game but my opinion stands.

[Aceman18]

@gaming

I'm 45 this year, and I could give two craps if there's chicks kissing in this or for that fact any game. I'll be buying this game day one because I love ND games.

[Thatgrammar]

What are they projecting? Please tell me why you are “passing this game up”.

[Muzikguy]

@Cell

I can agree with the sex in games. I don't see the point in it either. I wouldn't put kissing in the same category as sex though. They're not remotely close

As for all these comments I'm sitting back laughing a bit because I don't think I've ever seen so many people say their ages before in a response to someone else. :)

[NeckBone]

that's dumb. this looks great but I don't want it. straight stupid

[Sirk7x]

If they manage to tell a good and compelling story, should it matter how old you are? It's not like it's My Little Pony or something lol.

[Thatgrammar]

@darthv72

You actually don’t know what the game is about if you think its about, “survival and kicking ass in the process.” The first game was not about survival and kicking ass in the process and tlou2 will most likely not be about survival and kicking ass in the process. If you have played and/or listened to what the developers had to say about the first game you would know its about the characters and their relationship as it progresses through the game as they survive a post apocolyptic world. If the second game is about ellie then why not include her new relationships? Whether they be romantic or not, whats wrong with relationships?
I personally really liked the scene of ellie kissing that person she developed a relationship with and thought it was heart warming.

[Homunculus]

I dont mind lesbian action, but those girls two are quite ugly. Its not designed to be pleasant for men too.

[Gaming101]

You haven't articulated in the least as to why you are passing the game up, so what exactly are people going to address to change your mind? Try giving some rationale, because so far people are just guessing based on your dumb, narcissistic comments.

[fr0sty]

Critics: Waaaaaaaaaahhhhh WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
ND: "WDGAF #18m sold"

[UCForce]

Do you have a problem with lesbians ? I’m straight here, but I think lesbians and gay are normal people.

[Army_of_Darkness]

I'm 37 and during that lesbo kiss scene, I was like "oooow... I wonder what's gonna happen next?! " :-D
.... Wait, what was the problem again??

[Antifan]

I agree. ND and CDPR should stick to their vision and should not be phased by a vocal minority.

[GottaBjimmyb]

There is no outrage honestly, just a VERY small minority upset about the violence and/or ellie being gay.

[Nicknasty]

Yea youre right, I guess the entire crowd at E3 that didn't applaud after TLOU was shown, was the minority. Lol keep on telling yourself that. Whatever makes you happy there buddy. It's just fact

[joab777]

100%. I cant wait for another great 1st person rpg. Half life and Bioshock are two of the best IPs ever made, and this could be better than both.

[starchild]

I agree. They should make the games they want to make. People are free to voice their concerns or criticisms, but really there's no point to being super negative on game forums. It's best to contact those companies/studios directly. Likewise, the studios are free to make changes based on those criticisms or simply ignore them. And each individual can choose to buy those games or not.

[Nicknasty]

You're Antifa, so your opinion doesn't count for anything. You're sick and need help!

[KyRo]

Exactly stick to their vision. CDPR should do the same with Cyberpunk too. People cry bullshit about games feeling similar to previous games then cry when they Devs have the balls to spread their wings and do something different. It's no wonder developers are having this attitude as gamers are coming across really petty as of late.

[DJ_Professor_K]

Everyone always has something to say about what anyone does if you don’t like it do it better make your own game
Better yet go protest a war where real people die

[Tetsujin]

Am I the only one who watched a lesbian p0rn after seeing this?

[AspiringProGenji]

Lol glad I am not alone

[FallenAngel1984]

Naughty Dog will silence critics when the game releases

[HeisenbergX]

As they always do

[PoopsMcGee]

@ hayden

...and we'll be the first to laugh at you when they do :)

[CaptainOmega]

@Hayden. Why don't you think ND isn't capable of such quality?

[Nicknasty]

Yea, with their fat wallets! Money talks im afraid. I'm a long time Sony fan and i love most of their exclusives, but I'm sorry TLOU 1 was overrated and boring to me and this one looks even worse!

They are just trying to jump on board the bandwagon and make there little political statement. So original! Looking way more forward to Nioh 2 and Death Stranding. You guys can keep your overrated naughty dog titles. Uncharted was a copycat poor mans version of tomb raider too. Some of us long time Sony fans don't have to love every Sony exclusive, or have to agree with an opinion being made either.

Theres plenty of people out there that will disagree with you, so don't get so offended and mad. We can all have our opinions and shouldn't make us any less of a human being.

[phoenixwing]

you lost all credibility when you say uncharted was a poor mans tomb raider.

[snoopgg]

Its the tombraider series that is overated in my opinion.

[starchild]

Uncharted borrowed things from Tomb Raider and then Tomb Raider borrowed things from Uncharted. They are both outstanding franchises, imo.

[Slickrickda1]

It's funny how you say tlou was boring and uncharted was overrated considering that your not a fan of neither it's just interesting how you put so much emphasis on why you didn't like the games but continue to buy their games. I have no problem with your opinion but, when you give it it sounds like your asking for people to respond back to you like you want the attention because all your doing is agitating people enough to go in on you. One thing to give your opinion but nobody needs you to be salty.. If you don't like the games then don't buy them.. That saves time

[SarsOxley]

LOL Hideo has been pushing his political views from the very beggining...keyboard warriors make me smile :).
Can't wait for either one of these glorious political agendas to grace my television!

[TheTony316]

"Uncharted was a copycat poor mans version of tomb raider too."

Funny how the new tomb raider games are a poor mans version of Uncharted.

[Nicknasty]

@slick
Funny how you say that, but then actually reply to my comment. Lol

[starchild]

"Naughty Dog will silence critics when the game releases."

So how will critics get their reviews out if they are silenced? And isn't that censorship? jk

[TheGamez100]

I want more clickers action.

[SCW1982]

Didn’t show the clickers until really close to release in the first game. I figure this is the same.

[Bathyj]

It will happen. Even better, I suspect you'll be about to play clickers off against humans like in left behind. I'd like to see an arcade mode where you can place enemies in a level and then share it to play through.

[ClanPsi1]

Honestly I found the clickers parts of the first one to be the least interesting story-wise and the most frustrating gameplay-wise.

[doggo84]

Thank goodness you arent directing this game then

[Profchaos]

Maybe they are all dead and this is more people vs people for supplies

[jhoward585]

Yeah, stick to your vision ND. I like stories to have surprise moments in it. TLOU2 is just as brutal as the Spartacus cable Tv series.

[ClanPsi1]

Andy Whitfield, RIP.

[porkChop]

It's always best to stick to your vision whenever possible. Like if it's something you know isn't going to work, you should probably deviate a bit, but if you believe in it you should always push forward. Pushing through is how we ended up with games like God of War and The Last of Us.

[rivaldoo777]

Well said. And I hope Sony doesn't go crossplay with this trashnite situation. Sony should do what they do to be the top dog like now.

[Kokyu]

Not going cross play is one thing locking someones third party account thats next level Orwellian stuff.

[Rude-ro]

@Kokyu
What about Ubisoft’s online saves, ea online saves, activision a online saves?
Even most games do not share save information on remasters for any console...
All of these fall within the same complaint.
No?

[VariantAEC]

@rivaldoo777
Isn't it funny how no one will agree with you when Sony's non-crossplay vision impacts their agenda, but will agree when Naughty Dog's Neil Druckmann turns characters like Ellie gay which positively impact these same players LGBT agenda?

So what happened to sticking to your guns and fulfilling your vision??? Oh right, and of course this isn't at all a double standard.
I don't mind gay characters but Ellie was made gay after the fact. Neil Druckmann himself discusses writing the characters and drawing up Ellie's story for the comic books (with Dark Horse Comics) and she was straight... Until the Last of Us DLC was being drafted up. Then he assumed that making the girls lovers instead of simple friends would be more impactful...
Ellie's gayness is Neil virtue signaling to SJWs and allying with LGBT at the same time.

This is why I'm upset about it.

Source [FYI]: https://popqt.com/is-ellie-...

[Kokyu]

Rude-ro

What about them? Are you really trying to equate games saves on a third party site to Sony a platform holder taking control of an Epic games account and denieing you access to your Epic games account on another platform? You cant be serious. What right does Sony have to control MY Epic games account and content on another platform?

[Hardiman]

That's the only way to be when it comes to creating! Stick to your vision and really with the track record they have Id say to the "critics" just sit back and enjoy the ride!

[DivineAssault]

The nay sayers are hating on Kojima too. Its ridiculous honestly. Does anyone believe ND or Kojima will let us down with these games? The success of the first TLOU game showed ND people loved it so this has a bigger budget with more content. Kojima left Konami & also has a big budget as well as a point to prove. Hes very unique with a brilliant mind. Have some faith or go get hyped over the games shown with zero gameplay.

[lociefer]

Kojima let me down with mgs5 and i'm kinda doubting him now, but i understand where you're coming from

[Inzo]

Kojima's heart was clearly not MGS5 for obvious reasons but with DS you can just see, feel and hear the passion from him. The weird and wonderful is Kojima's style and I would not want it any other way.

[DivineAssault]

I was let down by the story in MGS5. I liked everything else about it. Kojima has been wanting to do something different since PS3 came out but konami forced him to keep doing metal gear. Im surprised all of them ended up as good as they were. Anyway i trust this game will pay off. The actors he chose, the insane sci fi world, & everything else is looking sick

[Rude-ro]

No one thinks that..
This is the yearly attack for anything that can be picked apart.
The next version of all these complaints will be in the fall.
It happens like clock work for about 8 or so years now.

[lociefer]

OH MY GOD Can we get an adults only game please ?!? Stick to fortnite if you're too sensitive

[Gaming_1st]

I totally agree, we don't need this political bullcrap trying to push a agenda from the left.

[FunAndGun]

But you pushing your agenda is just peachy?

I'm curious, what is the end game for this "agenda" you keep bringing up? Like what is their goal and mission?

Also, please don't just say "the downfall of society" or something generic like that...really tell me your fear from this "agenda".

[Rude-ro]

What is the political “agenda”?

[SamPao]

Man...How is love political? your sentences are very confusing

[Atticus_finch]

This man is beyond stupid. You are the reason lesbians exist.

[Cobra951]

Rude-ro, the political agenda is the concerted push by media, Hollywood, and most recently some game developers to normalize what in our traditional culture has always been considered deviant behavior. Now, I'm a "live and let live" kind of guy. If someone gets his jollies by lining a hollow tree knot with lubed cotton, hey, more power to him. The problem is that the relentless leftist push does not pay me the same courtesy. I'm not allowed to have opinions that conflict with theirs. If I express any such, I get demonized as "regressive", "Nazi", "fascist", "bigoted", "sexist", and the rest of that sweet litany. This frustration, this outrage, accounts for much of the backlash against the intransigent left.

[BiggerBoss]

Lmao, do Lesbians scare you THAT much?

Lol, "the game is a libtard conspiracy!!"

I can't believe there's actually people who are this dumb.

[purpleblau]

A bunch of pussies complaining about the violence of a game? Go back watch spongebob then. But I don't really like the gay scene with Ellie. I like watching hot chicks kissing each other, but Ellie is not that hot, she's a tomboy. The other girl wasn't attractive either. The relationship between Ellie and Joel can be further developed. I wanna see that more!

[kneon]

Have you watched spongebob lately? There is some pretty disturbing imagery that will give kids nightmares.

As for the girls looks, do you really think makeup would be a high priority in a post apocalyptic world? They are just being realistic.

[purpleblau]

No, I have not. It sure passed my age.

Hot chicks don't need makeups. The scene at the dance bar clearly shows that people do have time to enjoy themselves during post-apocalyptic world. Why not a little makeup? Even if you put make up on Ellie, she still is a tomboy.

[BlaqMagiq1]

Remember when Ellie kissed Riley in Left Behind? Her sexuality was always questioned after that. Her kissing another woman isn't REALLY that shocking if you remember that.

[purpleblau]

yea, I did. But back then we weren't sure if she kissed Riley out of joy from this depressing post apocalyptic world or something else. I mean when a girl sometimes kisses another girl it can also be seen as a very friendly relationship. Of course, a guy kisses another guy is an automatic gayness. Back then we didn't know, but now it's official she's lesbian.

[FunAndGun]

Are you single perhaps?

[purpleblau]

no oh sir, I'm married and happy.

[drpepperdude]

I always thought as long as I don't see any dude on dude action they couldn't gross me out with any kiss scene but man was that the worst lesbian scene I've ever seen. I think a clicker must have bust a nut on them to make Ellie's and her gf's face texture look like that.

[purpleblau]

hahahah, that's a good one.

[LoveSpuds]

So had that intimate scene included women you found more attractive you would have no issue with the lesbian scene? What a pathetic rationale, are you 14 years old?

[purpleblau]

work on your grammar and logic bro. I don't understand what you meant.

[KickSpinFilter]

So your kinda a pussy about the gay scene, gotcha Bro.

[TheOttomatic91]

Um what outrage? I can assure you it’s just an unnecessary loud minority most people just want to play good games.

[ninsigma]

For crying out loud, it's a violent game just like the first, what's to complain about?? If you thought that it was too violent then you're likely just not into violent games in which case just don't buy it.

[EmperorDalek]

I don't remember the first one being as violent. Perfectly fine that it's in the game, but I think it may have been too much for a live show. Many people in the crowd looked unpleasantly shocked.

[drpepperdude]

No one was cheering at the end lol.

[kevnb]

To me it just seemed like a heavily scripted section of the game, I cant imagine its always like that.

[kevnb]

why so many disagrees? They showed something similar for the first game as well. Everyone was talking about this incredible ai that didnt actually exist in game, or do you forget already?

[Legatus]

Well, the disagrees are maybe because the article talked about criticism ND received for the very violent trailer at the PGW 2017, not about latest gameplay trailer at this E3 you are implying and why anyone would, everything about this game feels phenomenal.

[dumahim]

Who are these outraged critics? While I'm sure you're right that NG won't be phased by any that does exist, the headline makes it sound like it's coming from NG.

[Razzer]

I was wondering the same thing. You would think the author would post some links to all the outrage, but there is nothing. Or is this just from random crap on twitter? In which case, who the hell cares?

[Matrix6]

Loved everything I've seen from ND. My moist anticipated game, I hope it releases by sometime next year.

[medman]

Moist anticipation?

Count me in!!!

[doggo84]

I Third that!

[starchild]

She must be a lesbian if that made her moist. jk

[DialgaMarine]

Why should they be? The gameplay video already has over 6 million views on YouTube. The game is basically guaranteed to be a critical hit, and will potentially sell even better than games like Uncharted 4 and God of War. Some people are just genuinely jealous that Sony has such high quality studios and games under their belt, and will say and do whatever they can to try and negate that fact. TLoU2 Day 1.

[Krangs_Uncle]

Truth.

[medman]

Day Zero, even.

[Relientk77]

The violence and brutality looked awesome. Can't wait to play TLoU2

[TheTony316]

F the critics. Stick to your vision.

[Jiggy7d]

Gameplay is awesome, but they are really trying to force this LGBT agenda on us hard and that bothers me. They have taken it too far.

[FPS_D3TH]

You really don’t know who makes your games do you? Go start your own straight only game dev studio and see how far that gets you

[drpepperdude]

Then why are they usually making normal people content?

[VariantAEC]

Ok I'll pick up Spiderman, Ghosts of Tsushima, pretty much everything else shown off this e3 instead and skip TLoU2 then.
That works for me. You?
Wait a minute... WHAT IF gamers wind up boycotting this game because of Neil's decision to turn a character gay to improve the story by making it "more impactful"?

https://popqt.com/is-ellie-...
Hmm?

[FPS_D3TH]

Lmfao if you think the last of us 2 is going to flop because of gay kiss you’re circle of fiends is likely very small and intolerant. Idc what you buy lol

[Omnisonne]

What..? So having a straight dev team now equals to lower quality games?

Regarding ND being political, Druckmann stated a while back that he puts his political beliefs into his games. So yes, they are forcing an agenda. And yes, you can choose not to be on board with that.

[Jls1]

I agree it is being forced. Ellie wasn't gay till they decided to add dlc that made her gay. During the main story I think it was pretty clear that Ellie liked Sam. She did steal a toy for him. After Sam died Ellie wanted to talk about him but Joel wouldn't let her

[FPS_D3TH]

You hardly knew who she was in vanilla last of us. The dlc fleshed out a believable character. Just because she gave a kid a toy doesn’t mean she’s attracted to him. Neither does discussing someone’s death. What a desperate point of view to think it’s forced.

[VariantAEC]

@D3TH_D23LR
You think he is wrong?
https://popqt.com/is-ellie-...
As you can see he's not...
Neil knew who the Ellie was and changed her sexuality for the DLC.
His excuse is that sexuality is typically ambiguous for characters in Naughty Dog games Nathan Drake is gay confirmed! But seriously...
Druckmann: "We’ve already told this platonic love story between Joel and Ellie and we’ve told the story of the friendship of these two girls in the comic book… It felt like we wanted another dimension to it and since we already had these discussions of who Ellie is it seemed pretty natural to say, or at least ask the question, “What if these two girls were more than friends? What if they were attracted to each other? What if there was more to it?”
He went on to say they didn't explore the sexuality... Of the 14 year old girl... Oh gee, I wonder why???
Though it could've been easily implied that Ellie was was straight from the events in game and in the hcomic book. Nope! Neil made her gay to give Ellie's story weight... What!?! How does that add weight? Their young kids they don't know what that kind of love is yet so how could Ellie understand that kind of loss? They could have gone anywhere with the DLC. To when Ellie lost her mother for example. Would that not have added enough weight Neil?

[FunAndGun]

Bye, don't play the game the developers wanted to make and the story they wanted to tell. The real world can't wait for every sheltered fearful agenda monger to feel comfortable before they make a piece of entertainment.

How come their is not a violence agenda in these games? Why is that not a thing?

Killing and decapitation is normal, two people of same sex kissing, ewwwww, my sensabilities are wrecked!

It seems misplaced.

[Jiggy7d]

@FunAndGun Judging by what you wrote, you are probably too young and inexperienced to understand the longterm consequences of feeding kids with such content. We are already seeing the devastating effects of these sort of social policies (feminism, LGBT, etc) especially in the West. Men are not men anymore, same goes for women…..each day SJWs come up with new endangered 'subgroups' we should accept and not be able to criticise, etc. The world has gone mad and sadly, ND has also joined this lunacy.

[FPS_D3TH]

Loosen up the tin foil hat Jiggy

[Rude-ro]

What is the agenda?!
Are you saying the government(left wing side I think is what the kids say) owns Sony in Japan, and is forcing their hand to make games about being inclusive to all of society? To do things that pick at the right wing society of the United States?
That’s deep man.
But I believe you man...
So is all the gun violence and competitiveness in gaming the right wing agenda? To bring balance to the lefts oversaturated agenda in gaming?

[Atticus_finch]

Someone has yet to explain what the agenda is?

[FPS_D3TH]

They’re turning the frogs gay!

[Jiggy7d]

Agenda is population control and destruction of the family unit. There can be no family and population when you start advertising deviant behaviour and unnatural practices…..most of you are too naive to see it. You will see the results later though.....

[medman]

The bitterness and jealousy fuels them.

As it should.

[MorpheusX]

@medman

😂😂😂

Jealous of ?

[BlaqMagiq1]

They have too thick a skin to care what anyone says. They are masters at what they do. And TLOU2 will be yet ANOTHER masterpiece under their belt.

[robleroy]

Last I checked this game was fro 18 or older, so what is the problem? Has nobody experimented in his or her youth? Please don't lie. The kissing was indeed not within script of what we are used to see in games, but what we should ask ourself is:
1)Is it normal to feel comfortable when you play an abducted child who is adjusted biological to enhance strenght and put in a tank suit with a helm to blow and shoot up little cute species from other worlds without trying to communicate first. Living the spartan ideology.
2)Is it normal to feel more comfortable when you are killing other humans and get trilled by seeying those bodies explode, chainsawed, fly or get cut into pieces than seeying two people of the same gender kissing???
3) Why does it feel good looking sexy while hunting animals (Lara??) 1996

People are in general more sick than any other living being.

If you feel sick by seeing two people love eachother, it is because society or your religion made you sick (its not the kissing or the watching of it).

[drpepperdude]

If you are engaging in gay sex, bro your not experimenting, you gay.

[Einhander1971]

Naughty Dog phased never.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

LOL more silly outrage, people are messed up. Always outrage over some BS, get a life.

[Hakoom]

what do you guys expect from a game like that?
to play like disney games?
ofcourse its going to be bloody and gory and intense and dramatic lol

[MorpheusX]

@Hakoom

The "outrage" is over the perverse & forced inclusion of an unnatural act of Lesbianism.

If you haven't noticed. Disney is a HUGE advocate of Liberalism, LGBTQ, Feminism, Pan-sexual, perverseness.

Stop pretending like u don't realize this. Ellie was originally a heterosexual character, during the DLC of the TLOU, she was made gay.

You nasty disgusting alternative lifestyle people make me sick to my stomach. Disgusting & abominable , filthy , smelly beast.

[trooper_]

This fake outrage is stupid.

[MorpheusX]

@trooper

Fake?

Lesbianism, Homosexuality, LGBTQ, is a lifestyle choice that is not popular, most human beings are outraged by it.

Especially when it's forced upon us, I don't want to see you nasty disgusting, smelly, filthy animals perform your nasty disgusting acts in view of me.

[The_Sage]

I bet the Muslim that kicked the girls out of the uber for kissing didn't like the trailer.

[MorpheusX]

@The_Sage

I bet he didn't either. I dare any of you liberal types to take your filthy disgusting smelly abominable selves over to a Arab country & see how they feel about you.

You'll find out real quick. Only in the West is Homosexuality "tolerated",....it will NEVER be accepted, never.

Us normal folk will fight, we ain't going nowhere.

[The_Sage]

First.... I'm no liberal. I think most of this lgbtq stuff is ridiculous.

Second... What are you, "normal folk" fighting?..

[MorpheusX]

@The_Sage

I'm surprised you asked what us " normal" folk our fighting.

We're fighting a surge of Liberal idologies, like the normalizing of Homosexuality.

What's next? Pedophilia? ...Yes , that's what we're fighting against . Unseen Liberal forces that work through the media(s) like Movies, Sports, TV Shows, Magazines, & now Video Games, to promote ideas that are " unnatural", " abominable, disgusting, & have been viewed for centuries as " evil ", wicked, wrong.

But today they are being " forced" into public view for public consumption, to be normalized & accepted by Society.

You realize Ellie as a character was written as " heterosexual" originally?

It's wasn't until the DLC that she was promoted as a Lesbian.

It was forced, if these disgusting people are so comfortable in there own skin, why do they seek validation & acceptance so hard?

It's insecurity, what they choose is shameful, that's why, it's guilt, they are angry, confused & " Agents of Chaos".

[The_Sage]

I do see what you're saying. I've never had a problem with people being who they are, as long as they're not breaking the law, or bothering other people. Within the last five years I have seen a massive rise in the amount of people that live "alternative lifestyles" throwing that lifestyle in peoples faces. It is a disturbing trend. The idea that you can't tell a boy that he's not allowed in the girls bathroom or you're some kind of bigot is beyond perplexing to me. Things do seem to be getting out of hand.

[Profchaos]

Wait there was outrage... Man people get pissed at everything these days I was blown away by what they delivered.

[Millard]

I'm not outraged but sometimes you don't need to be so graphic to get your message across. A few times in the clip I felt uncomfortable and I never felt that way throughout the entire first game. I think that is what people are upset about.

[RevXM]

Maybe part 2 is more graphic, but that feels like a natural evolution to me.
THe first game makes most uncomfortable, Like the part where Joel lands on a steel rod, or when a friendly character dies, when joel kills the doctor or tortures Davids men. With the last of us you are in for an intense and emotional rollercoaster. If the Last of us part 2 makes you feel something I guess its just more of the same.
Its a shitty world in the last of us and now they have the means to make it more graphic without it looking weird. fidelity, animations lighting is quite a bit better. It fits the universe. Its the last of us, it was not all about sending a message. it was also very clearly made with the intent to make you feel things. IMO that may be the best part, the immersion, the tension, the chemistry between characters.

However come to think of it some of the most disturbing bits in the TLOU is actually when the camera cuts to black when your character gets killed. Or is it just me?
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Axonometri]

I would make a comment with my views.. But like all the ones before, my comment will be flagged and hidden. Why? Because I post Joel is a single white male. It does not fit ND agenda with this game. I'm seriously thinking about not getting the game all together. Simply for the fact that it has become painfully obvious that you will be silenced and labeled a heretic if your views don't match ND or the industry for that matter. It seems like the game industry is walking down the same sidewalk Hollywood has. Sad. I know you all Hate me.

[CaptainOmega]

Or ND has a good story that can be told through Ellie and her mother.

[MorpheusX]

@Axonometri

Bravo.

I agree but don't worry about "hate", what these Liberals think, they are a minority, & nature itself is against them.

God is against them, they are only insuring there own demise.

[xenz]

Outrage is good. It creates more publicity for the game and in this case more sales guranteed. I like that because I like Last of Us, and I want it to do as good as possible. So thank you to all the haters, you just made the game more popular!

[MorpheusX]

I don't accept Lesbianism. I have a problem with it.

It you support this life style whatever, I don't , its an abomination, it's unnatural, & its Gender Confusion.

Last of US 2 will not "Sale" as well as the 1st.

Whichever side of the fence u sit on regarding the issue your choice, doesn't matter, your anger means abosolutely "nothing" to me.

Nothing. I hate Sodomy, And I hate this life style choice , and I "always" will. People who agree with this life style choice have mental problems period.

You need help, psychological & spiritual help.

I'm "unphased" in my stance against this LGBTQ/Feminist/female empowerment/Liberalism/Politic al(religious)/Marxist/Socialist /Gender Confusion/Sodomite agenda, I will never ever embrace or accept it as normal.

It's abnormal. Animals have more sense.

Naughty Dog can go straight to ..H___.

[gameslayer2411]

You say that animals have more sense...but you do know that there are numerous animal species which engage in homosexual behavior.I wonder what agenda they are pushing by doing it? It’s so abnormal that it’s even found in different species. Interesting. But please, go ahead and inform all of us, why exactly people who have a different sexual preference than you need spiritual and mental help?

[Istolla]

@blackstarr
Your understanding of biology is very twisted. You clearly don't know what chromosomes are our how they are passed on. Every offspring gets chromosomes from both parents. Guess where the x chromosome in men comes from. I'll give you a hint, not from dad.

Having said this, what on Earth does gender have to do with sexuality?

I hope you are just being sarcastic.

[Istolla]

You clearly need to have your head examined.

[AnubisG]

Good. They should keep to the vision and they have full freedom to do whatever they want and I 100% support that.

However, I also support the people to voice their opinions, (negative or positive) about this game.

What I like to see from developers if they start to talk about these comments is professionalism. I don't want to see them react how DICE has reacted to the criticism they recive. DICE reacted like butthurt children.

[KickSpinFilter]

I don't see them kissing as a main point at all of this game trailer but a contrast between a fortified community that feels they are safe enough to experience human senses again, be it friendship, food, laughter, love, sex, dancing, music, arts etc. Compared to outside of the fortified community where all there is is survive. The gameplay trailer portrayed that precisely in an 11 minute time frame. Ya it's violent survival is. Well done ND!

[lellkay]

Adult game. If you can't deal with topics that make you upsetti then go play some colorful kiddie games.

[Tru_Blu]

I haven't heard any outrage. They aren't trying to rewrite history and that is the key point, no one cares about women in games, lesbians in games ect.. It's when it's forced into places it shouldn't be that people raise eyebrows.

[SR38813]

The kissing part was awful and the general voice acting and they way the characters were seemed bad ... It's looks good part from those

[ps3rider]

Some fans have problem to see blood ...

[cliveo32]

The critics are fanboy twats stop the hate game looks sick …. cant wait

[RiverCityBoy]

Good to hear. Stand up for yourself ND.

[masterfox]

Bravo!!

[Vizigoth04]

Man the first time I watched it I was like oh Ellie you Sly dog you. And then the next minute she's combating like a veteran. If anything Naughty Dog has everyone's attention negative or positive. But that got a lot of people to watch to girls kiss while sitting in a Church setting for crying out loud. What a trap. I have no doubt this game will be great. I'm ready for it whenever it comes out. I've got a pretty open mind on anything. I really don't think that this is Souly about SJW narrative though because that would go hand in hand with an antigun narrative as well and Naughty Dog sure hasn't dropped them in The Last of Us series or Uncharted for that matter. This is simply a story you can choose to play. Or not 😜.

[doggo84]

"Man the first time I watched it I was like oh Ellie you Sly dog you. And then the next minute she's combating like a veteran."

Lol this right here^ this is the right reaction. I share the same Sentiment as you. actually appreciated the demo for it was, and it was MILES ahead of anything else shown at E3. The hate and smear campaign against the demo is proof of this. "wahhhh wahhhh it's fake" - Give me a break, the demo was the most brutal thing i've ever seen in a video game and i fell in love with it.

Ellie scores some action, then downs another dude in a contrasting scene. I thought that was a great way to introduce the Visceral combat. Ellie is a slaya and a playa

[PUBG]

I personally think that the graphic violence in some scenes is a bit over the top, and just doesn't sit right with me. I'm not sure why they feel the need to go there in a game. Otherwise, gameplay wise and graphics wise, it does look really good.

[Minute Man 721]

Just don't give an inflated score if the game isn't really great aka Uncharted 4

[Skankinruby]

Lmao Uncharted 4 had the best gameplay, story, character development, villain, and boss fight in the series.

[Minute Man 721]

Uncharted 4 is good just not great. Sony showed the best part @ E3 2015

[doggo84]

"Uncharted 4 is good just not great"

Uncharted 4 was amazing. Get over it.

Next.

[Minute Man 721]

@ doggo
Looks like you believe your BS

[Bleucrunch]

This just further proves that haterade is REAL and the more of it that comes your way the more successful you will be. Embrace the hate Naughty Dog and release another gem....I hope they REALLY get pissed off.

[JokerBoy422]

Im just bummed that Joel isnt playable. I very much enjoyed playing as Ellie in the first game but was happy when i got to control Joel again. His character background was more relatable to me as a father myself. Im not sure ill feel the same about Ellie losing a lover over a father losing a child and then filling that hole in his heart with Ellie. Naughty Dog is very good at telling stories but i fear this one may just be a political stunt to win over the LGBT community.

[yoshatabi]

Who said he wasn't playable? The game isn't even out yet. You don't know if he's playable or not.

[Skankinruby]

Good, filter out all the idiots that can't appreciate art in video game form. This will be the game of the generation if it delivers the way it looks like it will.

[Kumakai]

being in a creative career myself (yup i worked on that C&C Rivals CG trailer that people weren't happy to see...and some other E3 stuff), you have to accept the fact that every asshole out there is going to have an opinion on what you create and put into the world. If you let it phase you, you will hate your career and never be happy. Naughty Dog know they are one of the best studios out there and that lets them give 0 f**ks about armchair/couch wannabe developers and self proclaimed critics who think they know best because social media gave them a platform (even tho they usually work retail and food service jobs as their main source of income cuz they lack the skill to make real money at something big)

[DafunkyRebel]

These weaklings have been living in comfort for too long and have no idea how vicious and brutal the real world is.

[The7Reaper]

Good I like it when game devs won't bow and lick the shoes of critics.

[WelkinCole]

Exellcent ND. Outrage critics are all the same. Just do what you guys see is best for your games. Even if babies get killed to serve the game narrative then go for it. End of the day these are just pixels.

[Tross]

People who get offended by the slightest thing are the worst, and should be ignored if anyone wants to stick to their creative vision.

[DrBananaCrazyy]

I cant see me myself relating to a lesbian character let alone perceiving her as badass that way. I dont have anything against homosexuals but to have the main character a homesexual with serious indications that the story will also involve their relationship makes me kind of upset because it honestly just killed the hype and excitement for me. Death stranding was interesting though

[Nicknasty]

To me it's almost like a straight guy going out and buying a gay man's magazine. Why would you do that unless you had tendencies or were gay yourself?

All these people going out to buy and support this game are either gay themselves or get turned on watching two girls making out. Ugly ones at that. If anything they are the perverted sick ones that have to get turned on by watching two girls kissing. Way too many other great games coming out, than to deal with this overrated crap of an agenda game.

I never liked TLOU to begin with. All story to cover up the dull combat and gameplay. Boring

[xRacer74x]

I was more disturbed by having an underage girl kissing another girl than the violence. But hey Im american we adore violence and are Prudes.

[CoDsuperstar]

TLOU2, the same crap as TLOU1 (which as overrated) but this time with more degeneracy.

[2paclives]

Stay in your own world then.

[Gunstar75]

Eugh... Lesbians 🤢🤮

Lol

[Gunstar75]

PlayStation's Gamers - looking forward to being lesbians since 2018....

🤓 I'm joking

Looks fooooking brutal

[OpenGL]

No one is forcing these people to buy a Mature rated / PEGI 18 game.

[Protagonist]

Good argument and it is not said often enough. Sure it got lesbians and violence but it is indeed a Mature rated / PEGI 18 and nobody is neither forced to buy or play it.

[Protagonist]

Lesbian kissing made the alt-right snowflakes uncomfortable.. nevermind the violence Lol.. Game is going to be great!!!

[Elda]

Lesbianism is the most trivial part of the game what's fierce is the graphic brutality of the game but no one cares about that. A day one buy for me.

[OffRoadKing]

The problem is it isn't trivial at all, its constantly brought up and talked about and talked about to ad nauseam. And here's some food for thought, gays and people who support their life style claim being gay isn't a choice but that they are born that way well in this instance as we are talking about a video game character it was clearly a choice made by the developer and so then one has to ask what was the agenda behind the choice, as always its to force acceptance on people who have the right to disagree and dont support the behavior.

[Nicknasty]

Great point made!

[Elda]

It is trivial especially at this point of day & time,as a straight woman I see no harm in this what so ever knowing we see straight romance scenes for eons now may it be in public,a music video,a movie or a videogame. Why not change a romance scene up a bit with a lesbian scene especially a kiss that's no longer than a few seconds.I'm guessing if it was 2 guys you folks would really be flipping out. I will admit I don't like romance or sex scenes in movies or videogames it's just old now,if I'm playing an action game I want to see action including if I'm watching an action movie,but Naughty Dog are great story tellers so you deal with it or just don't buy their games at all knowing no one is forcing you to buy.

[OffRoadKing]

You're entitled to see no harm in it, but just as much as you are entitled to that others are entitled to disagree with it and should not be attacked or shamed for their feelings, yet it seems if people dont tow the line in this, to use your phrase, "point of day and time" they are wrong and hateful. I agree Naughty Dog are great story tellers but they should stick to telling stories instead of forcing social issues on people. I love their games so I will probably buy it but hopefully all the gay stuff is skipable.

[Elda]

It would be fine if Ellie was straight & kissing a man but since she's Gay it's not ok in your book,get over it.Gay folks are people too & have stories to share & tell even if it's in a fictional videogame & if the story requires them to kiss someone their having relations with so be it.This is Ellie's story & ND is telling it how they see fit & if she wants to kiss her love interest in the story no one including yourself should be bothered knowing we've seen straight folks kissing in games & movies for eons now.Seems your somewhat of a bigot & that's not cute.

[OffRoadKing]

See its the dismissive attitude, "get over it", and the name calling people like you do that's actually whats wrong with the whole situation. Funny I haven't called you any names or even disregarded your supportive attitude, all it does is lead credence to what I've said all along, its the people on your side of the issue that are cold, mean and hateful, and it shows that theres clearly an agenda, its see it your way or the highway. I have a right to be bothered and that shouldn't bother you.

[Elda]

I didn't mean to call you names I should've said your views are bigoted.

[OffRoadKing]

Disagreeing with a behavior doesn't make me a bigot, I disagree with pedophiles, does that make me a bigot too? But you keep proving my point.

[Elda]

What behavior? 2 adults that happen to be women having a kiss? It's normal. You do know your analogy of disagreeing with pedophiles & a Gay person is totally off there's no comparison knowing being Gay is normal & legal,Gay folks can get married,pedophilia is a mental illness & against the law here in the USA. No shade but folks that say & think the things that you do basically have issues within themselves knowing people are people,no matter if the scene is straight,bi or Gay of folks kissing there shouldn't be any objection especially when the people are grown & in this case in a fictional setting such as a videogame. This world would be in a better place if some folks weren't so uptight,closed minded & judgemental because someone or something is different,we're all human beings & if we could just respect one another it could go a long way within all of us.

[OffRoadKing]

Gay has become "normal" because of forced acceptance, we can thank Hollywood for that and apparently now video games are getting in on the act. I'm sorry but pedophilia is abhorrent and for me so is the thought of a woman performing sexual acts on another woman, don't even get me started on what gay men do to one another, its sick and disturbing and the fact that you are ok with it because gays have convinced you its "normal" is unfortunate. I'm sure there are plenty of things you yourself are judgmental about, for instance you judge those that don't tow the line for the gay agenda. Clearly we dont see eye to eye on the subject and never will, you have your opinions and I have mine and that's probably where we should leave it. I do hope that this doesn't become a recurring theme in video games though, we dont need to be brainwashing more youth into believing homosexuality is "normal".

[Elda]

Physical attraction within humans start in their "youth" something that all humans are born with.No human being has ever woke up one day & said this is the gender I'm a attracted to,no one chooses gender attraction.When we're born we are the youth become teenagers to adults,many folks that are homosexual are young in their teens but scared to be who they are because of people that think like you. I'm from the old school I have Gay friends including co workers including I work in HR at a university for 25 years now so I know & hear these teens stories. Before you judge people get to know them first.You just admitted that you're a bigot & I won't take it back. I hope you never have children & they're homosexual,I will feel sorry for them trying to be accepted by the likes of you. SMFH.

[OffRoadKing]

The brutality wasn't the issue, its the forced lesbian acceptance stuff that wont sit well with some people and it might end up phasing them if in the end it effects sales.

[GrimDragon]

I applaud naughty dog and fully agree with them supporting THEIR vision for THEIR game. Censorship should not be the answer for games that go the extreme that’s what ratings are for and consumers should use the system to buy the games that fit their particular taste.

I for one will not buy this game. The violence is extreme and disturbingly realistic. As a parent I definitely would not allow my child to play something with this level of realistic violence. It’s like letting them watch that movie “faces of death” but much worse because your no longer a spectator your actually committing the killing in this game. I believe this level of violence contributes to the desensitization of death and murder in adults and especially kids. But regardless the game should exist like any other and the responsibly of purchase or not to the consumer.

[Nicknasty]

Im sure they weren't expecting the silence they received after showing it at E3. You could hear crickets it was so quiet. Never seen anything like that before.

So I'm sure they were kinda tripping out. Sounds like they're just in denial and wanna pretend it never happened. That's what happens when you try to mix politics with games. Id leave that nonsense outta the games and with cable news. Has no business in our games anyways.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

Good for you! If they don't like it, they should not buy it

[Knightofelemia]

Can't please everybody now a days if you don't like it don't buy it or watch it.

[REDGUM]

Rediculas. A lot of people said it was too graphic. I bet it was one or 2.
Stupid. I bet none of then had a problem we ish the romantic kiss though.

Hmmmm

[gigoran]

Do I get to see them have sex?
If so, the games great! Must play of the year!

But if it’s just in there as a “let’s make the main character gay for no reason other than appeasing the left wing, feminists, and gay community”... then no.

Don’t get me wrong. Gay people are cool. Half my friends are gay. It’s feminists and left wing morons that I hate.

But I’m all seriousness, I don’t care if 2 people of the same gender kiss in a game. Only homophobes would be offended by that. The true offence comes in the form that if this object was placed in the game for political or personal agenda then it’s using their product to push their personal opinions down gamers throats.

But if the case is it was always intended to be a plot point or just included creatively then that’s cool.

I do still dislike feminists and left wing idiots

[fluxmulder]

They will once sales start falling. Maybe not this game, but the next. There's only so much SJW-ing people can take.

[King_Lothric]

I don't like the lesbian part and I am at my full right not to like it and I am not afraid to say so. I don't have to follow that tendency just because people like it. I have my own brain. People MUST respect my view the same way they ask others to respect their views.

[goathouse774]

What "view" do you have?

[AgeInTheCage]

I'm a stout PlayStation supporter and that lesbian kissing scene made me uncomfortable.

[KillZallthebeast]

Lol yes they should listen. Look how good mass effect did with their gay slapping krogans

[KillZallthebeast]

Those of you who disagree with me tell me why otherwise you're just an idiot clicking a button

[seanpitt23]

I like it even more because it's super violent because it feels more real and it's a 18 for a reason if you don't want a violent game then don't play it and play Uncharted..

I praise naughty dog that they have not watered it down like all other developers would of so it's ok for kids to play.. Naughtydog is the best developer in the world right now period.

[Drithe]

I'm done with Naughty Dog. Everytime they make a game they try to make some political statement and get their employees to come online and create FALSE controversy to bring their game more attention. EVERY SINGLE TIME. No one cares that the lead character is gay. No one cares about the violence. Everyone cares that is a great game and looks to be so. But ND can't just go with that. Noooo. They think they can win over LGBT tv time and gamers who love a little violence in their game(which is pretty much 100% all gamers) and free speech advocates who are licking their chops to go on tv or online and rant about how great ND is.

Naughty Dog should just focus on making a great game. They don't. I hope that people see what I am talking about and not buy their games anymore.

End of line.

[BenRC01]

Too many devs give in to the vocal (and dumb as hell) minority and release garbage.

[FreakyFox]

The fact that they chose to show the kissing scene at the showcase was odd, but the whole Sony E3 event was odd, i think they went abit wrong with the whole event with the immersion thing trying to trigger emotions.

Even at the begining Shawn Layden said we have nothing new this year, but we are going deeper into the games, and then banjo's are playing, and young girls are kissing, and then game footage from games we saw 2 years ago.

I have seen that much footage of spiderman, i feel like ive completed it already.lol

[BondJames]

I will punish them with my money.
They rather show Ellie kissing some big nose girl than clickers or Joel.
Druckman = Kathleen Kennedy

[lazyboyblue]

Good. Absolutely nothing wrong with violence in media if solely aimed at adults. We're old and ugly enough to choose for ourselves what we want to play and what we don't.

[Cogan1]

Anyone who is an actual gamer is not outraged, more excited and anxious to get their hands on another masterpiece from Naughty Dog. This is just more non-informed media shite.

[doggo84]

Lmao no one bats an eye at mass effects gay romances, or that Overwatch Devs took Tracer (let's face it, that game has no space for character progression) and decided out of the blue to make her Lesbian for ZERO reason other to garner hits (People actually praised Overwatch for this) but ey as soon ND do it, they are political, they are pushing their agendas, they are wrong. if it's developed by Naughty Dog and is a ps exclusive, you can sure as hell bet people will be outraged. How dare ND make Ellie Lesbian, how dare they!!!!!

[neomahi]

It's not the gore or the violence, it's the lesbian kissing. Naughty Dog talks like they're not phased by because they're knee deep and there's no turning back. The story is set around the fact and it can't be changed because it's such a big part, but they're gonna feel it in the long run. Every empire eventually falls, it's a historical fact. Naughty Dog will lose their limelight eventually, it's just a matter of how. The Last of Us had proven, as did Gears of War before and God of War before that, that brutality isn't the issue. Mortal Kombat set the stage but it's this idea that their vision is what's important and they refuse to listen to their fanbase that supports them and that fanbase can move and put Naughty Dog developers on the street. Bruce Straley saw this coming and left the project not even halfway in, he couldn't consciously go through with this and Druckman was forceful and persistent just as he was with Amy Hennig. It was a power struggle, his ego is inflated and will be to his detriment, we'll see how his emphasis on Ellies relationship affects sales, not to mention Naughty Dog took a big slap in the face to Christians as the kiss takes place in a Christian Church. Sony was concerned about language in a LittleBIGPlanet song referencing the Koran, but don't seem to concerned about their local homeland of Christians.