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Naughty Dog is Not Phased By Outraged Critics - The Last of Us Part II at E3 2018

"Naughty Dog was met with a lot of criticism after its second trailer for The Last of Us Part II debuted during Paris Games Week last year. The trailer featured some intense and graphic moments of characters brutally fighting each other to stay alive. Needless to say, it didn't sit right with a lot of people. While I'm not going to dive deep into which side of that argument is correct, there is one thing that's for sure, internet outra ge will not affect Naughty Dog's vision for The Last of Us Part II." -- PlayStation Enthusiast

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Nyxus130d ago

Good, stick to your vision.

Gaming_1st130d ago

Exactly right. You guys have delivered time and time again. We do not not need some kid "Septic" saying otherwise, with opinions.. But unfortunately i will be passing this game up, even though i know it will be quality.

SuperSonic91130d ago

Its the lesbian kissing that made me uncomfortable

ravinash130d ago

Watching the guy pull his toe nail off in death stranding made me feel uncomfortable, but i'm still going to get it.

Prettygoodgamer130d ago

@supersonic

If 2 women kissing makes you uncomfortable you might need help

Gaming_1st130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

It's about what they are projecting. And unfortunately, me and mid aged guy's will not support this as we have in the past. So i'm sure it will do strong numbers amongst for the 30 and below, cause they give 2 craps about society. But i am almost possible it will drop off.

P.S. Btw this is my opinion, i'm sure some people will not agree with me. But discuss your opinion to change my mind.

Razzer130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

"And unfortunately, me and mid aged guy's will not support this as we have in the past. So i'm sure it will do strong numbers amongst for the 30 and below, cause they give 2 craps about society. "

And who elected you to represent "mid aged guys"? I'm over 40. You don't speak for me, pal. Stop pretending you do. And it is hilarious that you believe that anyone who buys this game doesn't "give 2 craps about society." It is a damn video game. Also hilarious that you just generalized an entire age group of people. Yeah....you are so damn wise. lol

"But i am almost possible it will drop off."

lol....what?

RauLeCreuset130d ago

"P.S. Btw this is my opinion, i'm sure some people will not agree with me. But discuss your opinion to change my mind."

Not every uneducated thought someone lacks the discipline to keep to themselves is deserving of debate.

D3TH_D33LR130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

Lmfao you don’t speak for all middle age men buddy. Most of us aren’t as close minded and let a lesbian kiss get in the way of enjoying a game. This toxic gaming community might not but thankfully the rest of the modern world and society do give two craps about enjoying quality games, story and a wider variety of characters. People crying about subliminal and political messages in their games should take a second to see who exactly is making their games and why it should be no surprise that characters like Ellie or women in BFV are in games today. It’s a hard fact to swallow for the ignorant spinfoil hat wearing crowd of this page who are upset games aren’t just made by white males anymore but it’s just telling of how little some of these gamers are actually going outside.

ravinash130d ago

I'm 42 and I've got no problem with it.

morganfell130d ago

"If 2 women kissing makes you uncomfortable you might need help"

Why was my thought how to become the meat in that sandwich and other people are having meltdowns?

Regarding the violence this made me feel so good. Its what I have always said about TLOU MP here and elsewhere. It is the most brutal and personal killing in Multiplayer gaming and its roots are born in the Single Player campaign.

Prettygoodgamer130d ago

@Gaming first

I'm 37 and I have no problem with it, I actually thought the whole kissing scene was cute, it made me smile.

@Morganfell

Def agree that elli character has a wicked smile.

soulrebel130d ago

@Gaming_1st if you think all 'mid-aged guys' are as archaic as you are then you're wrong. Most of us are proud of the progress society is making. That's right; acceptance is progress. You must hate the direction all media is heading if you are uncomfortable with the lesbian scene in the Last of Us. Society will continue to mature to celebrate individuals having their own say what is right for them, so long as those values don't harm anyone else.

I'm afraid that if you're hoping for acceptance to 'drop off' as you put it, you're in for a disappointment.

XabiDaChosenOne130d ago

I'm not too happy about the lesbian kissing either but I'm still going to get the game but I completely understand why someone would not because of that.

KickSpinFilter130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

"Once you hit your 40's you will understand"
Yes you will. As a cardholder member of the 40's age group we don't care how other people live their life.
Perhaps I did in my teenage years, but not anymore. It's much more accurate that intimate relations of polygons is what is uncomfortable, such as the one that takes place in GOW3, that one is extremely uncomfortable. The one in TLOU2 is done very well, but still is uncomfortable not because of it's LGB but due to it being polygons.

As far as TLOU2 goes you might be missing out one of the best games this generation if not all time.
I have experienced it all from the impossibility of controlling something on your TV with Sears Pong to the hopeful challenger to topple the best game I have ever played TLOU. If what we saw in that TLOU2 gameplay trailer comes to fruition with the best animation transitions/combat/environment s/story I have ever seen in gaming. I'm also pretty sure it will be the fastest selling PS4 game that will easily clear what the original PS3/4 has sold. You will be truly missing out in a "Gaming_1st" masterpiece. But much like I don't care what LGB do nor do I care if you play said game. I personally would not miss out on such a game.

bloop130d ago

@Gaming_1st: I'm 38 and I'll be getting this day one. I don't see anything wrong with adult men wanting to play a game with adult themes and content. In fact, it's the other way around for me. I have an older brother that only plays Nintendo games, Mario being his favourite, and has no interest in anything rated mature/18. That to me is weird. Maybe I should hook you two guys up and you can play some Mario kart and stay in your own fairy land together??

darthv72130d ago

I'm 45 and it doesnt really bother me all that much. I have been playing games since pong as well and i can say that over this last decade there has been a shift of acceptance in gaming like there has been in real life. Maybe more so in gaming because real life if someone doesnt accept things then violence erupts and real people get injured or worse. In a game, it is just a game but even games are getting more real. Some call it the uncanny valley and as games become more about art imitating life then i can see how it can turn some people off.

On a side note, if this game had not shown the kissing and just left that for the player to see themselves on their own time then this prob would not have been an issue. The violence and story is what sets the game apart, not the sexual tone so that to me felt forced when it didnt have to be there. They could just as easily had the same quality trailer and left some things for people to uncover on their own. the game isnt about Ellie on her journey of discovering what kind of sexual preference she wants.... its about survival and kicking ass in the process. (that scene is most likely a memory or flashback)

Parasyte130d ago

Let me guess, you also think being gay is a choice?

JokerBoy422130d ago

@SuperSonic91 it did seem a little forced. Even Ellie made an uncomfortable face at first. If that were a straight kiss scene liberals would've screamed rape.

kreate130d ago

I'm mid aged. And I'm not uncomfortable.

CryofSilence130d ago

Too many homophobes in this world.

Cobra951130d ago

I'm quite a bit older than all the above given ages, and I actually enjoy two attractive women doing all sorts of things to each other. Anyone remember the old Doublemint commercials? "Double your pleasure, double your fun." It's sausage parties that I'm too old to stomach.

yeahright2129d ago

@gaming_1st. the irony of your username....

Kombatologist129d ago (Edited 129d ago )

What are they projecting that's so bad exactly? And what middle-aged guys do you speak of? I turn 38 this year and I am absolutely stoked about this game. I'm also a straight male and not offended by two girls kissing -- or two guys for that matter. Love is love. Get with the times, man.

I think people are focusing on the wrong thing. When the first TLoU2 trailer dropped, there was a lot of speculation that Joel is actually dead (hence Ellie's behavior) and just a figment of Ellie's imagination. But this new trailer raises even more questions. This apparent relationship between Ellie and the other girl may have some significance to the story.

I, for one, can't wait to see how it all plays out.

Muzikguy129d ago (Edited 129d ago )

I’m 34 and have no problem with it. It’s one of my most anticipated games. I’m amazed at how you can sum up all “mid aged guys” with your opinion. Granted I know a lot that don’t like change or can’t see far from the front of their own noses, but the world is much bigger than that and always has been.

cell989129d ago

I’m 33 and I get where you’re coming from. I just don’t like it when they push agendas on my video games. Yes Ellie can be gay, I have no problem with that. But I much rather not see lesbians kissing, same as I’ve never liked sex scenes in my video games. Does it really add to the story? And if so, is it really the only way to tell the story?

Anyway, I’ll be getting the game but my opinion stands.

Aceman18129d ago

@gaming

I'm 45 this year, and I could give two craps if there's chicks kissing in this or for that fact any game. I'll be buying this game day one because I love ND games.

Thatgrammar129d ago (Edited 129d ago )

What are they projecting? Please tell me why you are “passing this game up”.

Muzikguy129d ago

@Cell

I can agree with the sex in games. I don't see the point in it either. I wouldn't put kissing in the same category as sex though. They're not remotely close

As for all these comments I'm sitting back laughing a bit because I don't think I've ever seen so many people say their ages before in a response to someone else. :)

NeckBone129d ago

that's dumb. this looks great but I don't want it. straight stupid

Sirk7x129d ago

If they manage to tell a good and compelling story, should it matter how old you are? It's not like it's My Little Pony or something lol.

Thatgrammar129d ago

@darthv72

You actually don’t know what the game is about if you think its about, “survival and kicking ass in the process.” The first game was not about survival and kicking ass in the process and tlou2 will most likely not be about survival and kicking ass in the process. If you have played and/or listened to what the developers had to say about the first game you would know its about the characters and their relationship as it progresses through the game as they survive a post apocolyptic world. If the second game is about ellie then why not include her new relationships? Whether they be romantic or not, whats wrong with relationships?
I personally really liked the scene of ellie kissing that person she developed a relationship with and thought it was heart warming.

Homunculus129d ago

I dont mind lesbian action, but those girls two are quite ugly. Its not designed to be pleasant for men too.

Gaming101129d ago

You haven't articulated in the least as to why you are passing the game up, so what exactly are people going to address to change your mind? Try giving some rationale, because so far people are just guessing based on your dumb, narcissistic comments.

fr0sty129d ago (Edited 129d ago )

Critics: Waaaaaaaaaahhhhh WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
ND: "WDGAF #18m sold"

UCForce129d ago

Do you have a problem with lesbians ? I’m straight here, but I think lesbians and gay are normal people.

Army_of_Darkness129d ago

I'm 37 and during that lesbo kiss scene, I was like "oooow... I wonder what's gonna happen next?! " :-D
.... Wait, what was the problem again??

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Antifan130d ago

I agree. ND and CDPR should stick to their vision and should not be phased by a vocal minority.

GottaBjimmyb130d ago

There is no outrage honestly, just a VERY small minority upset about the violence and/or ellie being gay.

Nicknasty129d ago

Yea youre right, I guess the entire crowd at E3 that didn't applaud after TLOU was shown, was the minority. Lol keep on telling yourself that. Whatever makes you happy there buddy. It's just fact

joab777129d ago

100%. I cant wait for another great 1st person rpg. Half life and Bioshock are two of the best IPs ever made, and this could be better than both.

starchild129d ago

I agree. They should make the games they want to make. People are free to voice their concerns or criticisms, but really there's no point to being super negative on game forums. It's best to contact those companies/studios directly. Likewise, the studios are free to make changes based on those criticisms or simply ignore them. And each individual can choose to buy those games or not.

Nicknasty127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

You're Antifa, so your opinion doesn't count for anything. You're sick and need help!

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KyRo130d ago

Exactly stick to their vision. CDPR should do the same with Cyberpunk too. People cry bullshit about games feeling similar to previous games then cry when they Devs have the balls to spread their wings and do something different. It's no wonder developers are having this attitude as gamers are coming across really petty as of late.

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DJ_Professor_K130d ago

Everyone always has something to say about what anyone does if you don’t like it do it better make your own game
Better yet go protest a war where real people die

Tetsujin129d ago

Am I the only one who watched a lesbian p0rn after seeing this?

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FallenAngel1984130d ago

Naughty Dog will silence critics when the game releases

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PoopsMcGee130d ago

@ hayden

...and we'll be the first to laugh at you when they do :)

BeardedDrachen130d ago

@Hayden. Why don't you think ND isn't capable of such quality?

Nicknasty129d ago

Yea, with their fat wallets! Money talks im afraid. I'm a long time Sony fan and i love most of their exclusives, but I'm sorry TLOU 1 was overrated and boring to me and this one looks even worse!

They are just trying to jump on board the bandwagon and make there little political statement. So original! Looking way more forward to Nioh 2 and Death Stranding. You guys can keep your overrated naughty dog titles. Uncharted was a copycat poor mans version of tomb raider too. Some of us long time Sony fans don't have to love every Sony exclusive, or have to agree with an opinion being made either.

Theres plenty of people out there that will disagree with you, so don't get so offended and mad. We can all have our opinions and shouldn't make us any less of a human being.

phoenixwing129d ago

you lost all credibility when you say uncharted was a poor mans tomb raider.

snoopgg129d ago

Its the tombraider series that is overated in my opinion.

starchild129d ago

Uncharted borrowed things from Tomb Raider and then Tomb Raider borrowed things from Uncharted. They are both outstanding franchises, imo.

Slickrickda1129d ago

It's funny how you say tlou was boring and uncharted was overrated considering that your not a fan of neither it's just interesting how you put so much emphasis on why you didn't like the games but continue to buy their games. I have no problem with your opinion but, when you give it it sounds like your asking for people to respond back to you like you want the attention because all your doing is agitating people enough to go in on you. One thing to give your opinion but nobody needs you to be salty.. If you don't like the games then don't buy them.. That saves time

SarsOxley129d ago

LOL Hideo has been pushing his political views from the very beggining...keyboard warriors make me smile :).
Can't wait for either one of these glorious political agendas to grace my television!

TheTony316128d ago

"Uncharted was a copycat poor mans version of tomb raider too."

Funny how the new tomb raider games are a poor mans version of Uncharted.

Nicknasty127d ago

@slick
Funny how you say that, but then actually reply to my comment. Lol

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starchild129d ago

"Naughty Dog will silence critics when the game releases."

So how will critics get their reviews out if they are silenced? And isn't that censorship? jk

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TheGamez100130d ago

I want more clickers action.

SCW1982130d ago

Didn’t show the clickers until really close to release in the first game. I figure this is the same.

Bathyj130d ago

It will happen. Even better, I suspect you'll be about to play clickers off against humans like in left behind. I'd like to see an arcade mode where you can place enemies in a level and then share it to play through.

ClanPsi1130d ago

Honestly I found the clickers parts of the first one to be the least interesting story-wise and the most frustrating gameplay-wise.

doggo84130d ago

Thank goodness you arent directing this game then

Prettygoodgamer130d ago

I want more kissing ladies. That scene was cute as heck

Profchaos130d ago

Maybe they are all dead and this is more people vs people for supplies

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jhoward585130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

Yeah, stick to your vision ND. I like stories to have surprise moments in it. TLOU2 is just as brutal as the Spartacus cable Tv series.