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Microsoft May Have Won E3 2018 but the Best Games are on PS4 and Switch

Gadgets 360: "E3 2018 is the focus of our 75th episode of Transition - Gadgets 360's gaming podcast. And while this year's edition of the Electronics Entertainment Expo has seen a resurgent Microsoft, a resilient Sony, and a renewed Nintendo, we dissect each conference's pros and cons, and why 'winning' E3 doesn't really matter this late in the console generation."

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maybelovehate2566d ago

Personally I am most excited for Red Dead, Kingdom Hearts and Shadows Die Twice. Which are available on Xbox. And since Red Dead isn't yet listed for PC "damn you Rockstar" the best version of the game will most likely be on Xbox One X. Best games is subjective but I feel that Rockstar has earned the respect to be in the conversation for best games. I also think it is safe to say that Forza Horizons 4 will be among the top games this winter. Red Dead and Forza Horizons 4 is a pretty nice duo for the Holidays if you like to partake in video games.

naruga2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

tbh i liked Sony s E3 this year a lot more than other years (for example last year the only thing that i liked was MHWorld ), they showed a ton of good gamepaly from the plethora of their AAA games . Ghost of Tsuhima literally gave substance with its brilliant gameaply and RE2 with LoUS 2 complemented a very good conference ...and as this wasnt enough Nioh 2 ( a special game for my tastes) iced the cake ...i may be a bit prejudice toward Sony because they announced out of nowhere Nioh 2 which its predecessor is a loved game , but independantly of that Sony conference was far more colorful and diverse

MS had a very good show also (very organized with many thinga to announce /show) but it hadnt that spark of new exclusive games...it was again Halo/Gears /forza

Nintendo can be described with one word --garbage ...they continuously underestimate the gamers and generally our intelligence because they know that whatever sht thy release , it will sell

maybelovehate2566d ago

Wasn't a big fan of Ghost, but I did love the Last of Us and Death Stranding reels. Also liked Spiderman. If you ignore all the boring stuff in between it wasn't that bad. All things we were expecting. No real surprises at all. But all in all not terrible either.

As for the MS conference, I did enjoy Crackdown, Gears and Forza but it was all stuff we were expecting more or less as well. Absolutely loved the Shadows Die Twice reveal though. My favorite game shown by a large margin in any conference. Kingdom Hearts, DMC, Metro reels were also really good. The Cyberpunk setup was also awesome but I wish they had shown gameplay instead of just a trailer.

It seemed like MS was all about games in general where Sony was more focused on Sony.

angelsx2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

Gamers won for sure

Gamist2dot02566d ago

I liked MS format and how they presented the content, but when you take away Square Enix games, it's weak. Sony's format was atrocious but the content was the best.

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starchild2566d ago

From Sony's conference I'm interested in Ghost of Tsushima, The Last of Us Part 2, Spider Man, Control and Nioh 2. From Microsoft's conference I'm interested in Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, Cyberpunk 2077, Halo Infinite, Devil May Cry V, The Division 2, Dying Light 2, Metro Exodus, Gears of War 5 and Ori and the Will of the Wisps.

neutralgamer19922566d ago

Better presentation MS

Better games SONY

You pick

Most exciting part of MS conference was acquiring of studios. When Sony buys a studio we get a press release and it's business as usual

So whatever you enjoyed more power to you

If ms won E3 than next few months Xbox will be the best selling console. E3 can give you momentum so it will be interesting to see

Omnislashver362566d ago

Sony- best format of all E3s
Sony- best gameplay of all E3s

johndoe112112566d ago

@neutralgamer

"f ms won E3 than next few months Xbox will be the best selling console."
What planet are you living on?

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super_bruno2566d ago

"Microsoft May Have Won E3 2018 but the Best Games are on PS4 and Switch"

That doesn't make any sense, how do you win a gaming show without having the best games. :/

morganfell2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

For some supposed journalists, I will just call them website writers, the number of people you can fool with marketing multiplatform titles to cover your weaknesses = win.

Gamers are supposed to be more intelligent than average people and writers in gaming media need to be smarter than the average paramecium. Now I know why they are website writers instead of NFL defensive backs. They are too easily distracted and take their eye off the ball. These are the people that cause traffic accidents because they can't focus on the task at hand. A blitz of multiplatform trailers should not have fooled a journalist from looking at the hard truths. The writer of this piece is just one more person swallowed by Redmond's rapid hand waving.

xRacer74x2566d ago

Losers always have excuses.

fiveby92566d ago

I didn't care for Sony's conference format but from an actual content perspective for the consoles, Sony easily won this hands down. MS still presents no compelling reason to switch from PS4 to X1.

cyber_daemonx2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

@super, exactly. Its just desperation on behalf of certain fanboys who seem to care more about features than games lol.

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AgeInTheCage2566d ago

In all the delusional minds of xboxone owners, everyone has an X. Hell im starting to call my OG launch xboxone the X and my ps4 the ps4 pro. Why? because there's no way to tell who has what console, so since im insecure and want to be cool I call my og xboxone the might X.

SquareBurgers2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

I would like to see your scientific evidence that gamers more intelligent on average.

fiveby92566d ago

I am confident that of the X1X owners they most all also own an OG X1. They basically paid $500 for the first OG model and another $500 for the X1X. And after all that money they still have mostly multiplats which are available on PS4. I own an OG X1 but have zero plans to upgrade to an X1X. I prefer to play multiplats on PS4 and of course an awesome first party lineup on it as well.

Brazz2566d ago

I love all the talk about "xbox got the best version", it's almost like you guys forget that +95% of xbox are OGone and oneS, the weakest consoles, no counting switch.
+95% of the time the best version will be on ps4 and pro, if you got a x1x, congratulations, you are just less than 5%.

maybelovehate2566d ago

Can only speak for myself. You can only speak for you. But I know I will be playing Red Dead on Xbox One X. It is the better console.

fiveby92566d ago

Actually, with the marketing deal for RDR2 on Sony, I think there is more content for PS4. X1X is a suckers choice. You paid for an OG model then for another upgrade. You got taken.

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ArchangelMike2566d ago

Well, isn't that a strange contradiction. When you can win a gaming expo, without having the best games. I guess it's testament to just how much Sony dropped the ball this E3. The games were great, but please Sony, just put on a normal conference - with your big game trailers, and the devs coming up on stage to share the details of those games. It wasn't too much to ask. Instead of what we got, which was a disjointed and technical mess.

OB1Biker2566d ago

So Ms have won E3?
Is E3 about a show pre event or is it about the event itself and the games on display or being demoed?

xRacer74x2566d ago

Its a testament to how fanboys, refuse to lose even when they do. Excuses, been saying it for years Sony fans have excuses for everything and change their rants to suit themselves

OB1Biker2566d ago

Everyone can make any excuse they want, doesn't change facts. Nobody owns the truth.
Sony presentation was rubbish. Xbox presentation was good. So you have a cardboard case vs a golden case. Now have a look at what's inside the case and dig out the truth.

xRacer74x2566d ago

@OB1Biker, I liked Nintendos show too they showed a few games I will get as well.

corroios2566d ago

Lol. The spin is Hard. Nobody wins nothing with 3rd party. The didnt show nothing New. Zero New IP. Without crackdown this year they got another racer ....

MuddyWaters2566d ago

Sony showed 4 games we already knew about with only one having a ship date for this year. Their conference was terrible but the games were good. That's what the topic says so how is it spin when Sony's show was 60 minutes long and had a long intermission after Last of Us 2? Shawn came out and talked a bit then a panel of the most boring people stood there trying to talk about something, then they showed the other 3 big titles and few others then the lights went on. That's a good show for you?

Sony even took the time to warn us this was about the 4 main games yet they were displayed like long teaser trailers. We still know next to nothing about Death Stranding.

Some of you need to step back and view each show from a distance, not just fans of one company.

Atticus_finch2566d ago

MS had a better show. But Sony had the better games it's simple. Now take your own advice.

HeisenbergX2566d ago

And Crackdown looks like crap

FBNS2566d ago

Crackdown has always looked like second tier garbage though

Atticus_finch2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

HeisenbergX I would of thought you would looking forward to CD3 since it feature big swell dudes.
I kid lol

HeisenbergX2566d ago

Atticus That's pretty stupid to assume that friend you know nothing about me and what games i have and play, just because i don't like what ND are doing and going with story wise with one of my favourite games ever that doesn't mean i only play games with dudes and that's some rule that i go with. I'm not that pathetic xD

Salooh2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

Tiny is better, tiny is smarter, squirrels are tiny thus squirrels are better than you human.

See, same logic here, they make their own new premise and want you to forget the original premise. We were observing exclusives and real time gamplay for generations to measure which show/console is better. Great exclusives gives the console an identity. Now, all of a sudden it doesn't matter. Freaking why ? ( Hint: MS decided so.. )

The product became the show not the games.

Eldyraen2566d ago

Sony didn’t show anything new IP wise either.

MS showed more new IPs from third party though. Sony has Control however which I was expecting at Ms to be perfectly honest. It looks like Alan awake style mind freak but more QB inspired combat. Which could be fantastic.

Sony’s only real strength was showing games from 1-3+ years ago finally. Which i loved but wasn’t “winning” material imo from an overall conference perspective.

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Vasto2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

I guess the earth will hit by a meteor and explode at the end of this gen.

/SMH

MuddyWaters2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

E3 is an event, a show, for the millions of us watching at home. It's not a hands on demonstration of games. That's what treehouse with Nintendo is for. As an event Sony's failed big time. Poorly structured and badly paced. Last of Us 2 looks incredible, Same with Ghost. We already knew what we needed with Spiderman, they could have saved that time on other things but Sony had little else to show. Death Stranding was just another tease and came across as a walking simulator, so how was that getting inside the games and explain the story on that game like Shawn tried to tell us in the beginning?

FBNS2566d ago

They showed us what to expect from death stranding... It's a hideo kojima game... We already know what to expect otherwise

Eldyraen2566d ago

If that’s all I should expect from DS, I’ll probably watch it on YouTube. Not something I usually do but I’m sure they’re saving more for later. I hope so anyways. I don’t mind walking Sims in a beautiful and interesting setting but gameplay showed almost nothing we couldn’t have guessed from the scene last year. Baby carrier, weird monster, trying to not be seen, and a cool cast but just a mystery still for time being.

Salooh2566d ago (Edited 2566d ago )

We already knew ms will show halo, gears of war and forza, so what's your point?. Both are in the same situation !! Both lacked suprise element in terms of new annoucnements.

Now that this is clear, compare these games with what sony showed. Compare sony releases to ms releases every year. Then you come here and say sony is the one who is not original

They showed 3 new major ips, all looked stunning and innovative and then you have the last of us 2 which alone as an exclusive destroy all ms games in terms of development quality and ambition.

The only thing you said that made sense is the style of the show which everyone agree on.

boing12566d ago

MS has won but best games are PS4 and Switch. Ok, journalist.

King_Lothric2566d ago

Won exactly what? Best illumination in a E3 conference? Best design and smoke effects?

E3 is about games. Sony had the best games. Sony won.

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Why The Game Industry Needs In-Person Shows Despite The End Of E3

Skewed and Reviewed kick off 2024 with a look at the need for in-person game conventions with the End of E3 and compares the cost-cutting methods of Hollywood who still value in-person events.

gold_drake538d ago

so, this article didnt tell me why we NEED to have in-person shows like e3, other than the authors nostalgia and remembrance of covering one of these shows.

but it also doesnt mention everyone outside of america who have never had the chance to see it in person either haha
we had to watch the darn livestream, if they had it available, at 3am in the morning haha with lags amd crashes (not all the time)

while i think these shows are great and all, i dont really "need" to have them. people are busy, im busy. id rather watch a livestream than to book a flight, a hotel etc.

but theres still pax and all of that.

Garethvk538d ago (Edited 538d ago )

I did mention that you cannot have hands-on and meetings with key people and the excitement. Europe has Gamescom and had Paris Games Week and N.A
Needs an industry event again.

A Livestream does not even come close to what was lost. I much prefer seeing and playing the games in person and asking questions to developers and marketing people versus watching talking heads doing shtick on a scripted showcase with a carefully edited video.

gold_drake538d ago

"need" is a strong word for it, imo.

"good to have it" would be a better way to describe it.

and sure, gamescom is in se germanland, paris week in .. paris.

most people dont rly care for it anymore. they either tune in to a livestream or vod or read about it online.

but opinions are opinions. if u think we Need them, then there ya go.

Garethvk538d ago

I think the industry needs them. The rank and file public not as much but our coverage is greatly limited via livestreams compared to what it was to say nothing of streams. Hands on previews Re very limited as well as we used to play big games months before release.

ApocalypseShadow538d ago (Edited 538d ago )

I get what you're saying. In person is always preferable with a hands on. Because there are those like myself that like to try before buying. That likes physical mostly over digital.

But having said that, I think it's more *your personal need* than a need for the industry itself. You need to be the middleman giving your point of view, possibly your own personal bias or subjectivity or objectivity to the equation. *We* as gamers don't actually NEED it. We can come to the same conclusions, positive or negative about a game as you can.

Companies like Sony or Nintendo used to sit back and watch others give their take on things that were negative to the message or had an agenda. Especially during the PS3 era of website bias, swag bags, advertising hand shakes, biased video, free laptops, etc.

Companies like Sony took the reigns and decided to let their base see for themselves what the games look like, than through the eyes of some journalists, bloggers and vloggers looking to cash in on click bait and advertising.

Delivering their message directly to the consumer killed a lot of that nonsense. You see the developers, you see the game, and in many cases, you can speak to these developers on discord than worrying about some article's take on something.

It's not that I want you to become obsolete. But for some, I'm glad it killed their business practices. Also, we live in an era where these games could be streamed directly to the consumers after the presentation from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft that gives that hands on of a game. They just have to implement that technology and make it high quality without latency. And *WE* as gamers can speak to each other on a preferred media platform and give our opinions on the gameplay we just experienced. Many journalists have not been fully honest on games before release because they fear losing their backstage pass and free gifts. We would know just by playing if a game is something we want. Remote play is possible now without lines, without expensive trips, etc.

To close, Sony has sold mostly 50 million PS5 consoles, over 110 million PS4 consoles and Nintendo has sold over 120 million consoles without a journalist take. They delivered their message and it's still reaching the consumers they are targeting without spending the millions of dollars on in person setup at a venue

I get what you're saying. I lived through the whole era when E3 was created and watched. But I don't need it and never been to one. And really don't need a journalist to tell me what to like or dislike.

EvertonFC537d ago

The ques for 1 game were 4 hours long for the most part, that's NOT fun.

S2Killinit537d ago

The problem with live shows was that it became all smoke and mirrors and a show of things not related to gaming. Therefore I would argue that it added a new layer of cost to the game developers and console holders that necessarily will need to made up for. Either we the consumer have to pay for that cost or the developer/manufacturer will have to bear the cost thereby taking away from profits leading to smaller studios dying out.

Remember xbox buying celebrities to make appearances? Thats a good example of unnecessary cost.

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JackBNimble538d ago

You don't need to go to the movies either, you can sit on your ass and watch any number of streams but that doesn't make it any better then actually going out.

This generation has become so spoiled and lazy.

gold_drake538d ago

booking a flight and a hotel aint the same as going to the movies, but pop off i guess ha.

Garethvk538d ago

Streaming cannot replace the communal experience of event films.

EvertonFC537d ago (Edited 537d ago )

Actually it does, for one it's cheaper eating my own snacks at home than over priced pi** take cinema prices. 2 it's About £150 to take the family to the cinema or £15 for a new cinema release and watch at home on my awesome 4k TV.
3 We can pause the film when needed, sit in the warmth of our home and have no di*kheads talking through the movie.
That's called using your brain, not being lazy or spoiled dude.

TheColbertinator538d ago

I'd rather publishers send out closed betas to garner gamer concern and interest like how we had demos back in the day.

I don't miss E3 as much as I loved it at one point but that era is long gone.

Garethvk538d ago

There is a need but refinement was and is needed.

Zenzuu538d ago

Sad to see it go. It was a great event for gamers and developers all around the world getting together and celebrate gaming as a community.

The announcements of new games/hardware, hype, surprises and seeing live audience reactions, it's something only events like E3 are able to bring. It will be missed...

hombreacabado537d ago

if its going to be anything like the game awards where celebrities that dont even play games are there and its just full of fluff and commercial crap than no we dont need in person shows. we just end up watching the trailer montages the next day anyway.

Shiro173537d ago

To be honest E3 was one of my favorite times of the years when I was younger. I couldn't wait for all the big conferences and new announcements. It was hype even if nothing good was announced we had cringe moments to laugh at.

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The Rise and Fall of E3

Rest in peace, E3. It may be easy to understand why you wasted away, but you will be missed.

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Terry_B557d ago

Nah..it won't be missed. Times changed.

mastershredder555d ago (Edited 555d ago )

E3 pre-2005 will be missed, everything after than ain't even close or worthy of mention to be missed. Late 90's E3's were phenominal, especially the after parties.

Dwarrior555d ago

Those that scoff and hand-wave it away are kids that were never there. Peak E3 was peak gaming.

It already IS missed.

darthv72555d ago

"$299".... and the rest was history.

jznrpg555d ago

It’s been dead for a good while so I don’t miss it. Things change

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Remembering the most chaotic trade show, E3

Pour one out for E3; it's finally deader than the dodo.

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