According to estimates by research firm IHS Markit, Microsoft's Xbox One sold 39.1 million units by March 2018 while PlayStation 4 sold 76.6 million units.
Not surprised by those numbers, curious how they'll change after E3
I'd say not at all... I mean E3 is not that important, to change sale numbers or trends I mean
E3 in general? because I think E3's what caused the trend of PS4's dominance just before it's launch.
Joking arn't you. The Sony deals of play have that blue limited edition console that I am sure is going to sell extremely well. I wouldn't be all that surprised if that didn't ship a good 2-3 million world wide.
Xbox is probably around 30 million and by saying that I'm being generous.
The numbers are wrong because Sony themselves announced Q4 numbers already. And a NPD insider claimed that Xbox was around 35 million at the end of Q4. You don't need to be a physic to know this so I get upset when Analysts make these patently wrong claims. I mean, I don't even get paid to know this and I know better.
Those numbers are wrong. Xbox is about 8 million short of that number.
LOL. People have been claiming for months/years that Xbox One sales are more or less at 30 million. I guess Xbox One just stopped selling when reached 30 million. /s
Hell yeah they are more like 29m lol
Oh. Please share the correct numbers with us, since you seem to work in the industry and are in-the-know.
Ea said at the end of 2017 Xbox one was about 30 million. So in last 6 months Xbox one sold 9 million https://mspoweruser.com/ea-...
@lelo2play "I guess Xbox One just stopped selling when reached 30 million. /s" I guess It did according EA headquarters and N4G armchair analysts. Lmao. XD
These are estimates by 1 research firm. I highly doubt X1 sold 40 million. Weekly sales show them getting tripled in worldwide sales consistently. EA's figures showed XB1 selling 29.4 million consoles by the end of 2017. XB1 has likely averaged approximately 500k consoles per month over the past 6 months. So i'd assume that there are only 32-33 million XB1 consoles sold to this point.
where did you get those numbers, where the sun doesn't shine....
Not true, Check out numbers EA released recently... From what I've been told EA don't count Japan numbers at all. So deduct Japan sales for Xb and PS from EA totals to get correct ratio
@neutralgamer1992 You provided a link which has been updated stating an MS spokesperson claimed that figure is inaccurate, and did so months ago. While they give no concrete numbers to directly contradict EA's claim, the fact remains that report has been contested and new data has now arrived. EDIT: Doesn't mean I'm concretely using this number as I would Sony's official sales reports either, but it's disingenuous to believe this doesn't throw some shade on that 30 mil number that you've linked. @IamTyler -"These are estimates by 1 research firm. I highly doubt X1 sold 40 million." Not a great way to start--structurally speaking. Any honest poster here is going to give more weight to a research firm than whatever your beliefs may be. -"Weekly sales show them getting tripled in worldwide sales consistently. " If you're talking about VGChartz: you're providing a very narrow window as to when that's been happening. B/c it was basically 2:1 closer towards the opening of this year. Also, VGChartz isn't gospel. (That's not to say they should never be considered either) -"EA's figures showed XB1 selling 29.4 million consoles by the end of 2017." Well that's just ONE gaming publisher who may not be privy to all the data an independent research firm may have; furthermore, that claim had been contested by MS months back. (See what I stated above) -"XB1 has likely averaged approximately 500k consoles per month over the past 6 months. So i'd assume that there are only 32-33 million XB1 consoles sold to this point." So...to wrap this up: your reply begins with blemishing the findings of ONE research firm, magically decides to set more weight on older, more-contested data (thus far) from ONE publisher, then proceeds with just pulling sales numbers out of thin air. I'd implore you to consider this and see why you may not be taken seriously when discussing this topic in the future. At the rate some posters are going, these predictions will net XOne's 2018 hardware sales lower than that of their '13 holiday numbers!
No, no, no. You're way off. My personal guru tells me xbox has only sold about 1.8 million units since launch. They are really struggling.
Not a whole lot but the combination of E3, the bad press warriors coming out for another wave of attacks, and keyboard warriors might gain half a million. It's the one frustrating thing about gaming. The warriors.
Probably Xbone mumbers are shipped like PS4 is 79 million shipped as of March 2018. Anyway, yeah, it's 2:1 ratio.
"Not surprised by those numbers, curious how they'll change after E3" Well PS4 will cross over 100 mil for sure with the Likes of Spiderman, LOU 2, DAYS GONE. GOT and DS and so on
They both will go upwards? Joke aside Spider man is coming.
Why would they change at all? Nothing has really changed. MS did what they always do and made more promises, Sony did what they always do and showed off fantastic games.
"Sony did what they always do and showed off fantastic games." You forgot to add the added benefit of not needing to worry about the games or studios for said games being cancelled or releasing with low quality.
The numbers for Xbox One will never be accepted because this guy don´t work for EA. Lol.
EA had sales data showing that X1 had sold 29.4m units at the end of 2017. There is no way 10 million X1's sold from January to June. 10 million in 6 months is almost 2 million consoles per month. This was after the holiday rush and during a very dry period for Xbox. At most X1 averaged 500k units per month during the past 6 months which would put them at 32.4 million. It's more likely that Xbox One has sold approximately 32 million units to date. That's what the numbers suggest.
Why would they change...Gears aint coming till late next year
You think E3 is some kind of magic portal that allows you to go to the past and change things?
U can only imagine how much more ps4 would sell when Spiderman and red dead redemption 2 release. God of war would be pumped those numbers up as well.
People would buy the X for RDR2 it will be the better version.
dude MS is lucky if there is 1 mil XboX one X on the market , so how does that logic make sense???
You really think that? Dude the difference is not that big when i have a pc that puts both my ps4 pro and the x on a corner..... By the way god of war, horizon looks better then any thing i saw on the X....
@xRaceer74x "People would buy the X for RDR2 it will be the better version." — Wrong... On a Worldwide basis, more people are buying the PS4 Slim over the Xbox One S & Xbox One X…COMBINED
"people would buy the X for RDR2 it will be the better version." I have been tired of hearing this crap since X released but with every 3rd party games release units sale more on the PS4
Lmao no 😂😂😂 have you seem how many people own PS4's to X man if you don't sit the hell down.
Then how come every single multi platform game sells WAY better on the PS4 than on the X? Face it, nobody is buying the X for Red Dead.
Wrong PC will be the better version.
U realize about 80% of people play on base consoles and dont really care and will never buy a mid gen console
I own the Pro why should spend a half a grand for X to play RDR2 when it will just as well on the Pro?
😂 Then tell me why more people are buying the Switch than the Xbox?
That would be the case if most people cared about playing the better version, but that's only the very small minority. Most people don't care and just get the console they want.
@biggerboss "Then how come every single multi platform game sells WAY better on the PS4 than on the X? " Maybe because there's more PS4's sold? Of course multiplats are going to sell more..
Ok that makes sense people are going to buy an xbox x just to play the same game with extra pixels, so in other words people are going to buy RDR2 for the price of $560.00 dollars instead of $60 bucks yup I see that happening. LOL. FYI third party games sell better on the PS4 every publisher has said this EA, Ubisoft, Activision, but surely RDR2 will be the exception.
To be honest... it won't be that much more. Basically anyone who wanted a PS4 has one by now and the cap is going to be about 88 million. I just have a feeling based on the PS3 numbers from last gen. It may get closer to 90 million but I dont think it will top 100, as even the Wii did 100 million with the help of some serious casuals and PS4 is not a casual magnet like the wii was.
Spider-Man says Hi. We shall see.
"It may get closer to 90 million but I dont think it will top 100," LOL! I cant wait to see this dude when PS4 crosses 100 .. Dude do the maths .. PS4 is still selling well... so you are telling me with the games releasing PS4 will sell 15 mil more till 2021 or 2022?? You must be bad at maths By 2019 end PS4 will do 100 mil ..
"It may get closer to 90 million but I dont think it will top 100" Hahahaahhahhaahaha awesome joke man, you really cracked me up. PS4 will reach 100 million in 2019., there's no doubt about that. Sony themself estimates that will ship 95 million units by the end of march 2019., but you keep telling yourself that darthv72 if you will feel better. Oh and i'm bookmarking your hilarious comment for the "PS4 sold 100 million units worldwide" article here at N4G.
If I'm wrong, then I will happily admit it. But something tells me that people are expecting it to do PS1 numbers let alone PS2. What they dont realize is both of those units had price drops to the low $100 range at some point in their lifetime. PS4 still has yet to hit below $200. And yes it is selling well but it is also reaching its peak / market saturation point. The people buying now are the last of the holdouts and if anything what you will see is an increase in multi console owners. Meaning those who already have a PS4 and opt to buy a Pro to really take advantage of the abilities for the new games. The wii had the casual market to help it hit 100+ million otherwise you could chop off a good 20 million from that number and it falls in line with what the PS3 and 360 did (but 360 also had RRoD to pad its numbers). If they release the PS5 and drop the PS4/Pro to the $149/199 price point then it would see a boom in sales for sure.
The PS4 is the best selling system this year. It's still beating the Switch and doing great numbers. What are you talking about?
Dude, it's like at 80 million now. The holiday season alone sells like 6 million units. The months from now until the holiday's will sell a few million especially with games like Spiderman, which btw is the most popular selling comic book character by miles. Close to 90? Lmao.
I don't have a PS4 yet. I imagine there are quite a few people similar to me.
Your dumb guess is getting bookmarked. lol
Families will have kids screaming “SPIDEY!” when it launches all the way to Christmas. Some adults as well. To think it won’t sell PSs is crazy talk. GoW is probably to have had less of an impact on new buyers really as it’s more targeting adults in general (or older teens) and you can bet some still bought it for it alone, just not as many as Spidey probably will this late into a cycle even.
I thought the estimates were already at 76 million by the end of January from Sony's numbers themselves?
http://n4g.com/news/2165480... they were at 79 million shipped at the end of march, so 76.6 sold at that point doesn’t seem far off
I think Sony said shipped 79 million, I assume that means to retailers. 76.6 million PS4's have been bought by consumers. That's how I understood it.
I think Microsoft, despite how quiet they want to be regarding these numbers, internally acknowledge their wrong movements this gen. It's been a very confused, very awkward and very weak gen for Microsoft. Their current motivations seem to be correcting the wrongs and building on their weakness. Next gen will be when we start seeing major changes. That's when wider pools of consumers can start taking them seriously again. Don't get me wrong, we've seen some brilliant turn arounds in the last two years and some very solid announcements and offers. Though, mistakes have been made. There's no denying that. On the flip side, a bad mistake can also be the best lesson.
"this gen"? take a look at the last 2 gens - MS had more than it's share of mistakes.
There could be a big problem for Microsoft if next gen isn't a traditional gen. If I were in charge at Sony I would be making the PS5 backwards compatible and ensure that all games can be played on the PS4 and PS5. Basically there is no new gen, you just upgrade to the new console if you want the extra power. What that would mean is that they aren't starting over from scratch and just continue on with their 100+ million (by then) user base. It would also allow for releasing a more powerful and more expensive new console since there is no forced upgrade. After some time you phase out the base PS4 and only support the PS4 Pro and PS5. This is a cycle that could continue indefinitely. That would make it difficult for them to ever be over taken short of making some really huge mistakes, which is certainly a possibility.
I think there will be traditional "gens" for the foreseeable future. At some point a new game can no longer be supported on the older hardware, and doing the Gen thing allows it to be clear to consumers. The PC model is too complicated for the average bear.
That's why I said that after some time you phase out support for the oldest machine. So for example suppose the base PS4 ceases production at the end of this year, thus making the Pro the only PS4 sold. Then you would only require that games be playable on the base PS4 for a limited time, say something like 2-4 years after production ends. The PS5 could launch with games initially supporting the base PS4, the Pro and the PS5, but after a couple of years the base PS4 support is not longer required for new games. The idea is to only ever have at most 2-3 versions of the console being supported at any given time. So when the PS5 Pro launches then you would begin the phase out of the PS4 Pro and just continue with this cycle with each new console iteration. From a console sales perspective it would mean lower initial sales of any new console, but that should be offset by the fact that you aren't starting with a use base of 0 every gen so game sales should be much higher. it's like the PC model but on a vastly simpler scale since the number of configurations supported can be counted on one hand, with some fingers left over.
@nucky64 - I don't deny the mistakes made prior gens. I was referring to this gen alone, this gen especially. Being that Microsoft haven't been very consistent - to put it lightly. Though, let's not pretend that mistakes made are exclusive to Microsoft. Everyone makes mistakes.
A lot of gamers are tired of Ms lies and Phil saying they have best 1st party and World Premiere Console Exlusive with an asterisk and all the dumb shit they say and do. Many won’t go back and they also suck at making games , they buy a franchise beat it to death and that’s what they will keep doing. They have a money first and lies culture and that won’t ever change with MS being their owner
Interesting numbers ship v sold
Seems like a high estimate for Xbox.
Not really. I saw estimates of around 30 million for Xbox One literally years ago. How are we to believe they haven't sold anything since then? In any case, a market analyst is in a much better position to determine these things than fans on a forum.
Nu uh, I can feel it in my bones Xbox is at 5 mil and everything since then has been an elaborate hoax.
Years ago? Nope. LOL. It was ~35 million as of end of 2017. As Zhuge stated on Twitter
Xbox one x have absolutely no games to sell the machine on, sometimes i wonder what Microsoft is doing.. Totally amateur hour...
WTF are you talking about? With that logic he Pro as no games to sell it on either. But, that is not true for either. They are mid-gen devices. It just happens the X is a much better mid-gen device. They both play their exclusives better than their bases and both play third-party better than their respective bases. The X definitely plays any third-party multi-plat better (you know what 90% of all game sales are) better than any other console on the market.