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Tomb Raider Dev Calls Last Of Us Part II Gameplay Fake, Apologizes

Last of Us Part II gameplay was shown yesterday at Sony E3 2018 Conference, The Gameplay featured Ellie and it was pretty impressive. In my opinion, it was one of the best gameplay demos sony ever.

The Fans reception was good too…but Tomb Raider Dev on twitter called the gameplay “Fake” in a tweet. The Tweet was deleted but it’s internet and there is nothing that you can hide.

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Blastoise2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

I wouldn't pull at this thread if I were him xD

-Foxtrot2201d ago

I mean he could do something more productive and make an actual Tomb Raider game instead of trying to make the franchise like other games. People can say what they want but the new Tomb Raider was heavily inspired by Uncharted and the Shadow of the Tomb Raider seemed it had learnt a thing or two off Last of Us...not saying the things they borrow were NaughtyDog "exclusive" features but it's clear they've been watching them closely while making the new Tomb Raider games

So yeah maybe he should just shut up, stop making bold claims and make an actual Tomb Raider game instead of LARA: First Blood Part III

Spurg2201d ago

Oh...There you go with the Tomb raider argument again.
"...make an actual Tomb Raider game instead"
OMG please explain that. Do you want her to go to a tomb and raid it or something, the title isn't reflective of what a game should be.
"Uncharted and the Shadow of the Tomb Raider seemed it had learned a thing or two off Last of Us"
And the amount of times Uncharted copied ideas from tomb raider? I didn't know Last of us invented stealth gameplay.

The last of us 2 gameplay was a tab bit too scripted. The way everything was coming together felt too perfect and cinematic. The actual game isn't going to be as freeflow as this. Naughty dog hasn't been pioneers in gameplay they are actually average at best. Stories are their strong suit and I prefer the opening sequence where Ellie was interacting with the people in the party, that what makes last of us great.

xX-oldboy-Xx2201d ago

Spurg - Yes, I want her to do that, like she would in the beginning.

ND are the best at the cinematic freeflow gameplay, remember when TLOU was shown and people said the same thing? Spoiler - they are still wiping egg off their faces.

Ceaser98573612201d ago

"Naughty dog hasn't been pioneers in gameplay they are actually average at best"

The lamest and most stupid comment I ever read..

I only agree with the scripted gameplay..

AspiringProGenji2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

''Naughty dog hasn't been pioneers in gameplay they are actually average at best. Stories are their strong suit and I prefer the opening sequence where Ellie was interacting with the people in the party, that what makes last of us great.''

then explain all the seamless action in gameplay in the Uncharted series and why TR tired to hard to pull that of... Explain TlOU multiplayer... I'll wait

joab7772201d ago

Exactly. It’s like some random boxer watching Tyson in his prime and tweeting, “that wouldn’t knock me out!” Lmao!

The genius is this: the gameplay is so damn good that their nearest competitor thought it was fake. That speaks VOLUMES about ND.

-Foxtrot2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

@Spurg

"Do you want her to go to a tomb and raid it or something, the title isn't reflective of what a game should be"

Are you asking if I want Lara Croft to go on a globe trotting adventure to raid Tombs and temples in a Tomb Raider game? Urm...let me think...hmmm....YES

"OMG please explain that"

What I'd want from a Tomb Raider game

Lara Croft to look like Lara Croft...woman can look sexy and be a bad ass
A globe trotting adventure or a variety of locations across the world
Her dual pistols to be back
Enemies are mostly wildlife
Human enemies would crop up but she'd take them out non lethal if she has choice.
Tombs/Temples/Caves full of dangerous hazards
Traps scattered all over
Puzzles which could end your life if you aren't quick enough
Medkits to come back...a survival game with regen health...WHAAAA?
Better voice actresses...sorry but she's not convincing
Secrets to find
Save Crystals or a system like it
Find items across map, they are well hidden
Her acrobats and the like to return. Backflips...jump side to side.
Stop relying on massive set pieces which try too hard to put Uncharted to shame or something

I could go on.

Skull5212201d ago

Looked real enough to me but Sony has faked gameplay in the past so it isn’t outside the realm of possibility that some of it is faked. Cocking that gun under the car seems suspicious but I guess we’ll find out.

Yui_Suzumiya2201d ago

I actually enjoy the new Tomb Raider games.. I don't care for the old ones though

SuperSonic912201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

You know what, Fox... I have been controlling my rage against Tomb Raider since the reboot because it is super obvious they ripped off Uncharted in every possible way but this is it! They have crossed the line and I am crossing too.

They are so ungrateful to Naughty Dog.
I have followed Tomb Raider's history and Square Enix was very suspicious with their release dayes and delays. I have compared their "stolen"product to Naughty Dog's. And belieive you me ND is gonna exposed SE sooner of later for corporate theft.

TR chose to walk under the shadow of ND and now theu mad coz they cant get out of it.

Oh and SOTTR's ultra violent tone... guess where they got it from? This is why they tried to beat ND to it by announcing it before E3. Unfortunately they got exposed still.

I was right to boycott these suckers.

The heat is on!!!!

MuddyWaters2201d ago

Not fake, it looked excellent. The only thing fake about it is how scripted and controlled of how it was demo'd.

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Skull5212201d ago

@SuperSonic91

You do realize Uncharted is a rip off of the Tomb Raider series don’t you?

It was called Male Tomb Raider for a reason...

-Foxtrot2201d ago

@Skull521

Oh please that's what people said just because they were both adventure platforming games where the main character was a treasure hunter.

Tomb Raider was a third person platforming puzzle game with small shooting elements

Uncharted was a over the top third person action shooter platformer with small puzzle elements.

They stole more from Uncharted then Uncharted stole from them.

victorMaje2201d ago

“LARA: First Blood Part III” 😂
Though I have nothing against Tomb Raider, it’s undeniable that without ND making Uncharted & The Last of Us Lara would’ve never made it back from her grave.
Anyone that says otherwise hasn’t been paying attention.
As for that TR dev, well...what Foxtrot said.

morganfell2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

"The last of us 2 gameplay was a tab bit too scripted. "

Obvious signs of someone that never played the first game. I had numerous sequences that played out, minus the new mechanics (prone, etc) that worked out in a similar fashion playing the original. And here is what makes it amazing. I could go back through those levels, try the same thing again and everything went slightly different but also beautifully and was able to kill everyone silently. Then the third time through I would go in and everything went to hell and the AI would kill me half way through in a ruthless and particularly personal manner.

TLOU is a beautiful brutal game and the reality you can conduct sequences just like this time and again are a matter of simple fact. Anyone that has ever played TLOU (Obvious you have not) immediately recognized the gameplay and it felt instantly familiar to them. Laughable that someone such as yourself posts such a purposeful and ill informed remark when there are a ton of Survivor Difficulty videos and Speed Runs from TLOU where people pull off great situational combat moments that are not scripted.

wd3212201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

You know, I don't understand how this isn't an "actual Tomb Raider game", as people put it, what does that mean, exactly, I'm really curious.

Sevir2201d ago

I really wish you'd leave this Make an Actual Tomb Raider game nonesense in 2011... Ok! This Tomb Raider Reboot is heads and shoulders better than that overly sexualized acrobatic nonesense of a game... It was only popular because the men they made the game capitalized on on sex appeal while merging it with pulp fiction... That Lara Croft had zero story or personality other than being a video game vixen. Tomb Raider and the sequel there of has made the franchise relevant... Who cares if it finds it's success in the similar catalogue of Uncharted...?

As for this Developer's comment on TLOU2... Poor taste. Everyone knows that ND games are true to form with their gameplay reveals... And this gameplay Seems iterative on the mechanics they've set up from the first game in the series through Uncharted 4. There's nothing fake about this.

Sevir2201d ago

You know people love to levy "scripted" the linear game as if it's some negative... Um this is Naughty Dog we are talking about. This is a Sequel to the greatest Story Driven action game of the PS3/XB360 generation. The first game play reveal for the last of us was met by Xbox fans accusing them of the demo being "scripted" and the extended gameplay and everyone's own gameplay in that exact same section was different.

Since The Last of Us, Naughty Dog's confrontations in combat has always been approachable from multiple ways, and you saw that in every step of the play through, they simple CHOSE to play and confront those scenarios to demonstrate the new additions to the combat.

Ellie is smaller in frame than Joel so naturally she can squeeze through shelves to get the jump on her enemies, the hiding in grass was something they brought over from Uncharted 4. Her being pulled out from under the truck wouldn't have happened if she stayed in the grass. There are so many ways you could see where the player could have chose to attack any given situation... And you wanna come here and call this "scripted".

Fun fact... Games are scripted, every thing in reactions to how it's played, free flow and all is all scripted... There is no game experience that isn't scripted... So pipe down with this. It's not working. The demo is full of choices and I guarantee when they play the game or when you play this sequence again you will choose a different way to survive that section and it still wouldn't negate their original showcase because it will be different

Dirtnapstor2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

@Spurg
“Scripted gameplay”
Of course it was! Guarantee the individual who played that sequence did it over a thousand fold. You really think they would ‘wing’ a gameplay demo for E3?!
Hats off to ND. I’d be willing to bet the game will flow just a fluidly as presented. And no, ND will not be making a Sims game so you can slow dance with your partner.

Prem8tuaProcrastin8a2201d ago

Uncharted borrowed HEAVILY from tomb raider first.

-Foxtrot2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

@Sevir

“I really wish you'd leave this Make an Actual Tomb Raider game nonesense in 2011... Ok! This Tomb Raider Reboot is heads and shoulders better than that overly sexualized acrobatic nonesense of a game... It was only popular because the men they made the game capitalized on on sex appeal while merging it with pulp fiction... That Lara Croft had zero story or personality other than being a video game vixen. Tomb Raider and the sequel there of has made the franchise relevant... Who cares if it finds it's success in the similar catalogue of Uncharted...?”

So basically I should shut up because you, A NON old classic TR fan likes the news ones better which aren’t TR games at heart. I mean your little rant just showed us that you don’t give a shit about the old games so yeah of course you hate me going on about it because I have a point and you wouldn’t want the series to revert into something you’ve never liked.

Drop it...don’t make out I’m in the wrong because you hate the old games

Typical new fans who only love an old franchise because its changed into something else.

badz1492201d ago

THIS IS CLASSIC! it's like you're playing so good and dominating in multiplayer, people call you hacking.