Phil Spencer discussed the recent acquisition of 5 new studios by Microsoft, saying it's an investment they needed to make and it's not over.
Phil, grab me Obsidian next!
/agree I was just going to say this.
Always open and actually doing it are two different things. I congratulate them for expanding now but it's been a problem for years. I take it Phil finally has the confidence of the CEO and is allowed to make more decisions.
you know we've heard stuff like this before, with poor results. I want this guy to really mean this this time. make great exclusive games to bring in new people.
Poor results? Really mean it this time? Bish they just bought 4 developers and opened a studio! The heck more do you want?
@teamlitt "The heck more do you want?" games better than sea of thieves(from a dev they also bought) and state of decay. Bish.
It isn't just the lack of studios that has been the problem for MS. A bigger problem has been their constant mismanagement of them. 343 and Coalition are probably their most successful. But 343 made the lowest rated Halo in the series and Coalition release the second lowest rated Gears in the series. You can read the interviews on the web about how they treated Obsidian and the developer making the Phantom Dust remake. Both their games were cancelled because Microsoft didn't have a clue what they were doing Scalebound was cancelled. Fable was cancelled and lion head closed Rare was an incredible studio before MS got their hands on them. Crackdown 3 has been mismanaged. Even though MS don't own some of these developers they consider titles they publish first party so they have to take some responsibility. Crytek nearly went bankrupt after last working with ms on Ryse. Remedy were also put in a bad position after last working with MS If I owned a developer team and MS came knocking I would run for the hills
History tells us that when MS "invests" in a studio it either goes bust and they shut them down or they liquify them. I hope Ninja Theory isn't next.
Crytek nearly went bankrupt because they’re a poorly managed bloated company. As soon as MS (and EA) stopped funding Crytek’s projects the company started having financial problems.
I agree. While these 5 new studios are nice to have under the belt, they need to make good games for it to mean anything at all.
So we're just gonna look at the past and expect the same thing to happen in the future? You realize you improve over time not make the same mistakes going forward. Your thinking is very backwards.
Now that would be a big win for Microsoft and then they could make a new Shadowrun RPG game.
No brains have u Alexios have u?? https://youtu.be/H27rfr59Ri...
Pay to win I mean buy to win
@SuperSonic91 Sony bought up a lot of studios....
Haha classic indeed!
Glad to still see them making significant effort
Too late to do their homework though. RIP Ninja Theory you took the easy way out.
So does that mean Sony never wanted them if they wanted to be brought. From your logic it looks as if Sony rejected them right.
But will anything be done with them? Will they be allowed to be creative?
Playground is ALREADY working on a new game and Ninja Theory has just finished Hellblade AND stated that they agreed on the acquisition in they retain creative control.
Again, the key point is WAIT and SEE. Results have to be wait for. NT scored one major hit with Hellblade where everything else they've made received lukewarm receptions at best. Also doubtful MS will allow them a "Not in million years" moment Capcom afforded them. Similarly, who the heck is Playground? What else have they done other than PUBG, a game from a genre they apparently think they own?
@Godmars290: Playground doesn't have the slightest bit to do with PUBG. That's been made by Bluehole, a Korean developer. Playground is UK based and so far released the three critically acclaimed Forza Horizon games.
@Team I'm still waiting for an answer on the lies you posted yesterday. As everyone else has said here. These studios will be working on a game for the next 4 years and there is no guarantee that there will be a good game at the end of it. With Microsofts history Wait and See is the best mindset
Good grief you don't even know who Playground Games are?? Why am I having a conversation with you??
To your second comment with “who is Playground?”, he’s referring to Playground Games, the Forza Horizon devs. They announced that they’re working on a new IP that isn’t Forza
What happened to Turn 10?
@Mars Another person who didn't pay attention to MS announcements. Phil made it crystal clear they have creative control, pay attention Mars. Either that or you always find something to complain about.
And still: wait and see. Saying one thing and doing another, alternate facts, has become too common a thing. "Either that or you always find something to complain about." As things look, I'll always have you taking MS at their when nothing's been actually shown.
"What happened to Turn 10?" Turn 10 makes the Forza Motorsport series. Playground Games makes the Forza Horizon series
After reading an IGN article something appalling has come to mind after looking into the history of Microsoft’s past acquisitions. Of the previous 10 studios Microsoft has acquired over the past 20 years, five have been closed, two are still around but separated from Microsoft, and three are still active members of the Microsoft family.” As for those three remaining active acquired Xbox developers.... - Rare has turned into a shadow of its former self - BigPark works more on Microsoft apps than games - Mojang still has yet to show it isn’t a one trick pony Lord only knows how this will affect Ninja Theory, Playground Games, Compulsion, or Undead Labs in their future endeavors with Microsoft. Many a great developer came and went such as Bungie or got crushed and disposed of like Lionhead. Let’s hope they can break those chains. In my opinion of those 4 recent acquisitions, Compulsion looks to be the least interesting purchase since they haven’t produced a high quality game as of yet with only Contrast to their name and the jury is still out on how We Happy Few will be critically received. Undead Labs follows shortly after since the first SoD was only a modest success while the recent sequel is divisive in the worst possible ways. Ninja Theory & Playground Games are the only ones in this deal to consistently produce quality titles and makes me look forward to the games they’ll make in the future. On a side note, this article made the error of saying Microsoft acquired 5 new developers when its only 4. The Initiative was built from the ground up by Microsoft themselves and doesn’t count as an acquisition, especially since it never existed prior.
Correct. What Microsoft need is a culture change in how they develop games and treat developers not new studios. I'm willing to bet the talent will leave and creative creative control will be lost just like with Rare and Nokia.
The 5 new developers make you refer to the fact that playground is two studios not one.
How many studios have closed under Sony's watch in the past 10 years? Serious question. Be interesting to compare.
About 10 methinks.
Since you and others like to bring up history. Because the past determines the future now I guess. Sony's closed studios 1.) Zipper interactive 2.) Evolution Studios 3.) Studio Liverpool 4.) Incognito Entertainment 5.) Guerrilla Cambridge 6.989 Studios So what's your point? Were ppl focused on the past and thought "RIP future Sony studios or games?" No Sony build up the ones who were relevant to them. You act like nobody has ever closed any studio ever. How do you feel about EA? They purposely, key word purposely closed single player studios so no more DeadSpace and Mirrors Edge is dead and a single player Star wars is also dead forever. EA's better off selling those Ip's to studios who care. Sony or MS especially with MS new found commitment to games. Either way Sony closed down studios and are thriving till this day. Don't demonize one company when the other did the exact same thing.
@ Scirius Nobody counts Playground Games as two developers. Even if it has multiple terms it’s still considered on developer. @ Think Every company shuts down companies they have acquired at some point. The thing I’m getting at is that Microsoft hasn’t done a good job at maintaining the quality of their studios in the long term, or in Mojang’s case they keep them to one project. @ Angel Yeah Sony has shut down studios like many corporations often do, but let’s look at the acquired studios they’ve kept alive and maintained quality since. Bend Studio Naughty Dog Guerrilla Games Media Molecule Sucker Punch Those studios have a far better track record of producing multiple quality hit software than Rare, BigPark & Mojang so it’s not really comparable. If you don’t see the point I’m making then you’re a lost cause. You can’t point to any of them and say Microsoft did wonders with them after their acquisition. Even the ongoing studios that Nintendo have acquired in the past, Retro Studios & Monolith Soft, have far better prestige than the remaining Xbox acquired developers. Hence when I’m cautious of how Ninja Theory & Playground Games will be treated in the long term. We’ve seen Microsoft mismanage so many of their internal developers in the past and that can’t be denied. We can only hope Microsoft treats them better so they don’t feel opted to leave Microsoft like their former star developer Bungie.
"If you don’t see the point I’m making then you’re a lost cause. " I see exactly your point. Though I noticed you slightly changed your narrative a bit by comparing MS and Sony's studios before the acquisitions which we know Sony's studios blow MS out the water we all know that. My original point is Sony shut down studios but yet nobody question their future games investment going forward. MS has dark times just as Sony has. MS would need to exit the gaming scene if they treat their new studios badly and shut them down but I don't see why MS would want to put themselves in that position especially after the huge commitment Phil made at E3 about games focus and experiences.
I was talking about how aqcuired studios don’t generally thrive under Microsoft. The ones that have aren’t producing spectacular hits. When you brought up Sony I responded in turn how although they have shut down studios they have a far better track record than any other hardware manufacturer at maintaining acquired studios so it’s not that comparable. I’m hoping that after what happened to Bungie they treat their internal developers with more respect.
Why are people acting like it's the first time they've done this? people are like "OH YEAH MS IS SERIOUS THEY ARE BUYING STUDIOS." , they've bought studios before just show the games instead of putting on a show.
Xbox is now its own division with the head of Xbox reporting straight to Satya. This is the culture change people wanted and they are delivering.
No good just grabbing studios if you aren't going to give them creative freedom.
Do you think they wont?
Can everyone just stop with their fantasies of “buying” every good dev in existence? That goes for PlayStation or Xbox. If you’re acquiring a studio that’s always done exclusive like Playdead/Undead Labs for Xbox or Quantic Dream for PlayStation, then fine. It makes sense and isn’t hurting anyone. But when I hear names like Atlus, Obsidian, or Crystal Dynamics, that’s not good for ANYONE in the industry. Those are established multi plat developers, and all acquiring them serves is to screw the other company out of games. Xbox fans love to flaunt how rich Microsoft is (which I remind you is solely because of Windows, not gaming), but if you care about gaming at all, without wearing a fanboy hat, this is a scary trend. And for the more outrageous buyout theories like EA or SEGA or any other huge publisher, that would be catastrophic and ensure no grounded competition at all. The only worthwhile new studio MS announced at E3 was the forming of a new one using scouted new talent. Those are how you build a true first party dev team. You work with them and nurture them. Only childish teenage fanboys detached from reality who are so blinded by their console of choice would honestly say otherwise. And you’ll know exactly who they are by when they dissent to this unassailable argument.
Remember 343 Coalition Rare lion head Crytek History Repeats R.I.P
What about 343? And Coalition? Also why is Crytek on your list? I'm so confused. What posts point are you trying to make son?
Zipper Studio Liverpool Evolution Guerilla Cambridge BigBig Studios Actual shut down studios. Also Ready at Dawn. History repeats R.I.P
All they needed was to release 1vs100
I do not trust Microsoft. This gen they did nothing. Next gen they may have some titles on Xbox and PC early on and then they will pull the plug again. With 360 they did the same
Obsidian Moon Studios Remedy
I think Remedy likes their independence to make games on whichever platform they like.
They would own Remedy by now if they were for sale. Obsidian is NOT happening, otherwise BioWare/EA would already own them. Let alone they've been making their own games for years now (specifically Pillars of Eternity) as well as helping in other games.
Old spinster loves to lie
Great move Phil, great move
Give these guys the freedom to do what they want. Let them take risks. It dosn't always have to be about the bottom line. Games can be art, if done with patience and trust. If you want to expand, Microsoft, then give these studios the chance to express their talents.
This shouldn't be a big deal. It's something MS needed to do but they did it a couple years too late. You don't get an A for turning in your homework late.
I’m surprised they didn’t buy remedy.. I was kind of shocked to see them premier control on PlayStation, kind of looked like was quantum break should have been?
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