E3 2018's Halo Infinite Trailer Was Only An Engine Demo, Game Still A "Long Way" Off

Microsoft also says Halo Infinite will focus more on Master Chief and that you'll be able to play it ahead of launch.

[chrisx]

so most likely next gen then. the slipspace engine and art style looks real nice though.

[deckardreplicant]

could be who knows

[4Sh0w]

Yeah if it were a launch game for the next Xbox in 3 yrs, huge open world 4K 60fps, revamped gameplay, tech demo graphics, full multi modes & all the bells and whistles with features such as some actual use of cloud gaming tech I think that would be a megaton for Xbox going forward...but yeah who knows.

[naruga]

Halo Infinite ...Doom Eternal ...wtf is happening with FPSs ..

[-Foxtrot]

We'll probably end up seeing this for the next 2-3 E3 shows...

[BlueBlue]

Well, that would be 6 or 5 years of development for them.

[xRacer74x]

We should call it the FF7 remake clause. Only show games close to being released

[zackeroniii]

Well that's what's expected of microsoft...trying to decieve and make themseleves look good just for a few minutes when it doesn't matter in the long run.

All talk no walk

[timotim]

2-3 E3s? That's not a bad thing though is it? The Last of Us 2 was teased at last year's E3, and will be at this year's E3 was well before being shown off one last time at next years E3 before it's fall 2019 release...

[UltraNova]

timotim,

Did you just compare ND with 343? Oh my...

[Gazondaily]

"Did you just compare ND with 343? Oh my..."

He didn't do that. Its actually not a hard comment to understand. He clearly just gave an example of a game featuring at several yearly shows and why its not necessarily bad.

[UltraNova]

Context Septic context. This thread implies vaporware and early promises not fully fullfilled, something being erroneously associated with ND by timotim, a known quality studio against an unproven one - 343, its....not that hard to understand...

[Gaming_1st]

@timotim

I love how people just make up blatant lies. Please show me where the release date for Last of US 2 is "fall of 2019"

[Gazondaily]

"Context Septic context. This thread implies vaporware and early promises not fully fullfilled,"

Really? Tim was directly replying to Foxtrot who made the point about 2-3 E3;s. That was a very specific point. You completely misunderstood it then by clearly talking about the studios prowess. Then your later comment about vaporware etc shows how you continue not to understand the point.

Again> Foxtrot says it will feature for 2-3 E3's. Tim says thats not bad because TLOU2 does the same.

[-Foxtrot]

At the end of the day Last of Us Part II was announced in December 2016, this is the second E3 and it'll be released before next E3 I'm guessing. Any longer and I'm calling bullshit

[timotim]

@Ultra nova

No. I didn't do that at all. This isnt about comparing the quality of game studios here. In fact, ND themselves was never mentioned by me at all. What I was responding to was the amount of YEARS a specific game might be shown off and if that's a bad thing or not. TLoU2 was first shown off back in 2016 and while it is a possibility that it could release this year, chances are it will be 2019...that will make 4 years the game has been shown off...its already been 3 straight. I don't see anything wrong with how TLoU2 has been shown thus far leading up to its release...have you?

[timotim]

It definitely sounds like a 2020 game at the earliest so available for "next gen" is certainly a possibility. However, with Microsoft's stance now on "generations", you can bet that this game will be payable on Xbox One family consoles too. Windows, and Xbox One consoles, including Xbox Next would be my take.

[TheProblem]

@timotim.

The last of us 2 hasn't been at a single E3. Why do you guys always make stuff up? Serious question

[timotim]

@theproblem

My apologies...you are right...it was actually first teased in 2016 at PSX, not 2017 E3...this would make a fall 2019 three straight years Sony has been showing off the game at various game related events...again...is that a bad thing?

[Gaming_1st]

@cigi

Think he means more like crackdown. Or like the other games that are shown multiple years at e3, then canceled.

[TheCommentator]

Yeah, So Gears 5 for Next holiday and Halo Infinite for 2020.

[maybelovehate]

Now that consoles are all x86 there is no next gen. There will only be incremental upgrades like we see on PC today.

[Lennoxb63]

Cross gen most likely.

[PhantomS42]

Probably. A few weeks ago a lot of people on the site were very anti-next gen but E3 this year is pretty clear that this console generation is coming to an end. PS4 is in its twilight years, Microsoft already said they are working on Nextbox, Bethesda announces Starfield and TES6 are next gen. The end is in sight and next year will probably be the year we hear more about hardware.

Slipspace engine looks great though and them using the Halo 2 and 3 artstyle is a clear show 343i is taking huge steps to go back to the good days of Halo. That Halo 3 helmet made me smile and I'm willing to bet the multiplayer will be more like 2 and 3 with a tiny bit of 5 injected in there than it is Halo 5 and Call of Duty which is what 5 played like. It's been a long time since I've said this about Halo but I can't wait to see more.

[TheProblem]

I think this shows how much Phil Spencer lies.

Back when there was nothing been shown and people were questioning him on it. He was all Like

"Oh.. oh.. err. we are only going to show games that are close to release moving forward"

Everyone knew he only said that because there was nothing to show. Now they are showing games that release far into the future.

Phil Spencer only ever says what he thinks people want to hear.

[outsider1624]

Didn't Phil say he doesn't want to show off games that's far off release..or something like that...

[TheProblem]

Yeah thats the point I was making

[mark_parch]

this is definitely going to be next gen but what the hell have 343 been doing for the last 3 years?

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

I get a open world Halo vibe, which is awesome!

[Minute Man 721]

This game is dropping next year

[notachance]

Phil Spencer: "we won't do early announcement again"
also Phil Spencer: "ayy look here's two of our staple games without any release window"

[shiva1]

I took that literally for studios not owned by Microsoft and not by first party studios. The context and the timing of that phrase out of phil was out when scalebound happened.

[frostlatch]

If its "way off" then they lose E3 2018. They had ONE job. Get the new Halo out or at least close and all they gave was a damn engine demo. Kudos for announcing a few new racing games and Gears 5 but that isnt enough guys.

[The Wood]

It's a start though. . A late late start but ms had to look like they were pulling their finger out. Ms know this gen has been a wash for a while so their preparation for next gen should of started sooner than now. As you can see ms will only release 3 retail exclusives in their 5th year of the gen..

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

How is releasing an expected Halo game a start?

[The Wood]

I was more thinking about the studio acquisitions. They're a whole gen behind of Sony in terms of quality and quantity of studios and this gen has highlighted that. Buying studios isn't even an instant fix either. It's a long road. Games of quality don't just appear.

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

@Wood

Oh okay. Hey you never know, some of tthose studios might have already been working on a project/game for some time now

[aconnellan]

I think that’s a hyperbolic statement, and a bit unfair.

With Halo 5’s terrible campaign and poor reception I’d much rather them take as long as it takes to make a great Halo 6.

I think it’s more important to let 343 take their time than it is to rush it out to appease people saying that there were enough games revealed for a 2018 release.

Don’t want a repeat of the rushed State of Decay/Sea of Thieves do we?

[RainbowBrite]

I don't understand why is this an engine demo, when they didn't show any gameplay. It was cinematics. Could someone explain this to me?

[OffRoadKing]

They used the game engine to create the teaser trailer essentially, they didn't show game play because they dont have any and wont for a long time.

[Kabaneri]

This is disappointing I was excited to play Halo 6 on the X.

[snkiworld]

You probably play on XXX

[Kabaneri]

Im sure 99% of N4G does....

[shiva1]

Are you leaving to MARS on SpaceX by any chance tomorrow or in near future?

[aconnellan]

They’ve announced that its coming out on the current gen One and X

[Kabaneri]

Oh ok good to know.

[conanlifts]

So is this all they have done in almost 3 years. Pretty poor, no wonder we don't have any new 1st party games to play for the rest of 2018 ( except forza).

[Jinger]

I mean, it's not exactly easy making a brand new engine from scratch, but I can't say I'm not a little bummed also.

I was at least expecting a Halo spin off game at least. Sort of what The Coalition is doing with Gears of War.

[conanlifts]

The gears spin offs are exclusive to pc and mobile though. Neither are going to Xbox.

[mark_parch]

I'm extremely happy they seem to be listening to the fans and going back to the old art style, concentrating on chief and going back to a halo ring but like sd11 said what the hell have they been doing for the last 3 years. some people were expecting it to release this year or at the very least next year and they haven't even got any gameplay to show. looks like it's going to be a next gen game which is frustrating but at least I'm actually excited for a halo game again

[shiva1]

@sd11

Man i wonder if you or any of your kind can build a game engine with all the resources loaded in a giffy.

343 is working on fixing master chief collection, halo 5 guardians and halo 6 new game engine along with meddling on art style for the game. Building and tweaking game engine itself takes time.

For all the additional info head onto waypoint if you are really interested....which i doubt you are...

[conanlifts]

I was actually more than interested but can you seriously say that ms have not messed up? Nothing else is being released for 2018 except forza. They announced 3 gears games, but 1 is exclusive to pc ( no xbox version) the other exclusive to mobile.
As for halo, yes make a new engine but i did expect a new halo at least by next year. As an Xbox gamer and looking deeper at their conference it was not good.

[xRacer74x]

So its like FF7 when they first showed it off. I hated when Sony pulled that kind of nonsense too. But I guess its just how you play the game these days.

[remixx116]

Gotta get em interested

[maybelovehate]

It is definitely time for a new engine. And it did look impressive. This probably means we are multiple years away from Halo Imfinite but at least now we know why. Take your time and make it great.

[spicelicka]

It's already been 3 years though, how long does it take to create an engine? They released Halo 4 just 2 years after Halo Reach (granted it took longer than that), which included creating a new team and engine.

I would hope no later than 2019.

[4Sh0w]

Yeah but thats the thing they shouldnt need Halo every couple of years, they should have a larger staple of 1st party IPs to rotate, then when we actually get a new Halo game it feels fresh. Personally as a huge Halo fan Im good with 1 every 4-5 yrs.

[jmetalhead77812]

2020... 5 year break is exactly what this franchise needs. 4 & 5 were very good games, but not great games. Great is what Halo fans expect. Built from scratch using a new engine and taking the time to release a complete game, with both single and multi player being great. Not one or the other. I’m totally ok with this, as long as they hit a homerun with the new Halo

[mark_parch]

it's just so frustrating because that demo they showed looked awesome and 2020 seems so far away

[shiva1]

Did Reach have MC. They got their message clear. MC and splitscreen... So hibernate till its out.

[RosweeSon]

It’s like they thought of 3 or 4 of these games last night or within the last week or so. Battletoads halo. Be showing most again next e3 forza horizon 4 does looks very good tho needs a break after this one tho I mean if it’s that good a game surely it doesn’t need a new one each year

[jmetalhead77812]

Forza Motorsport I feel needs a break, not Horizon. Horizon has improved with each addition. FH3 was awesome. 4 looks to be continuing that trend. If they keep improving on the game and pick interesting settings, they can keep coming every 2 years for me.

[Kavorklestein]

I basically agree.

I feel Forza Horizon series has surpassed Standard Forza Motorsport in Relevance, features, and Visual Fidelity... Not Pixels and other thi but as in how it actually LOOKS/Lighting etc.. I also prefer the Open world and music and freedom of Horizon by far.

I think Forza Motorsport should just disappear or take a serious break.

[paintedgamer1984]

2020 or later game. Prob 2021... I dont even think the next xbox will release until 2020 or later. This game is def going to miss this gen.

[mark_parch]

it will be a launch title for the next xbox, guaranteed

[CurbStompin]

Beta included with Crackdown 3 confirmed.

lol

[PlayableGamez-]

Hope this is a soft reboot similar to God of War.
Something about that teaser gave me a Halo 1 feel.

[shiva1]

Ya. Me too. Its like that reboot feeling.

[windblowsagain]

Should look good on the next xbox,lol.

How you guys stay with MS is beyond me.

[luckytrouble]

Didn’t Phil Spencer say around this time last year that they wouldn’t announce games two or three years out because it was felt that creates false hype? Let’s just remember that PR spin a bit as the lie it was with this Halo Infinite announcement.

[corroios]

So whats the project that 343 been working??? This trailer got nothing?

[shiva1]

Trailer is for new engine... Not for gameplay. You would understand if you ever built a game engine though.

And yeah they have teams working on HMCC, H5 and H6 game engine. They are not getting paid to sit idle.

[GamingInFrames]

The fact that the next Halo game is being done on a new engine is news in itself & a surprise. Would have been extra happy with just some info on the engine.

[shiva1]

Ya. I could not find anything about this engine any where on the web. Its microsoft and 343 on it specifically i guess. Not a drop of info from the ocean.

[masterfox]

that's pretty bad then for MS.

[BlackTar187]

what happen to only showing games releasing soon? That I guess that's out the window.

[Takwin]

Slipspace engine looks phenomenal. Betting 2020 or 2021. Next Gen starts in the fall of 2020 almost definitely.

[rousseau88]

I hope blue team still there imo