Politicians and parents of slain students in Parkland, Florida, are expressing outrage about a forthcoming video game in which players can simulate being an active shooter to terrorize a school.
Says its will not 'accept payments for activities that promote violence'.
I don’t support this game but this is only one step away from shutting down all shooters, long live freedom!
I despise PayPal and their self-serving draconian policies. This action is typical of the methods they use to hold others' money hostage (i.e., in PayPal's pockets).
I mean... why make a game like this though?! There has to be a “this is just fucking stupid” line and this is far beyond that.. it’s a fucking school, the dumb asses that made this game lack that much imagination? I get the whole freedom thing but holly shit don’t abuse it with dumb shit like this then get all mad when others excersise their rights..
If they want to keep selling this stupid game then no one is stopping them from selling it out the trunk of there car.. no one is censoring them they are simply not supporting there ignorance.
@xb1
"There has to be a “this is just fucking stupid” line"
As soon as you draw a line, the line will (without a doubt) just grow and grow until suddenly, very minor things are now crossing it. That's why you just let the market decide.
I'm surprised that people still use PayPal. I wonder if those same people also use Myspace.
Blame websites that still ask for paypal only. I used it once, felt odd, old and weird but I had to, because sites still don't have way to pay through Visa, prepaid Visa, MC etc.
On ebay, it's about the only thing that people use, and having a third party credit card account is rather costly for most sellers. If Ebay went with a different way to pay....like processed it's own payments(which is the reason they brought Paypal anyways), then Paypal would probably drop off the face of the earth.
Paypal and Ebay were recently forced to split into different companies, but I don't see Ebay changing anything. There really isn't a good alternative to Paypal....or at least it becomes annoying to have all your customers using a whole bunch of different services.
Paypal has it's flaws, and I think they were the biggest reason I had my identity stolen 15 years ago when they were worse than they are now, but they have plenty of benefits. My history with them made me more cautious about how I linked my accounts to them, and I had a completely separate account for getting funds out of it, and made sure my bank wouldn't allow any Paypal drafts from that account.
really? I use paypal quite a bit still. Super convenient when you have to update your payment method at one place instead of at 50 different places :P
How the hell does a video game promote violence? It’s a god damn game. It might be a crappy game and made in poor taste, but it’s still a video game.
Then shut down the accounts of every video game and movie publisher because they all push games with violance. This is so stupid.
After a maelstrom of controversy that had mainstream news outlets and an anti-gun violence charity weighing in, Valve has removed mass shooting game Active Shooter from Steam.
This stupid game got way more attention then it deserved and even though I personally thought the game was a stupid idea I still think it shouldn’t have been taken off steam. Unless the game was another low skilled asset flip, then Steam should have taken it down for that.
Is it edgy, sure. But for Christs sake people, not everything is for everyone, nor should it have to be...
Said the guy who never had to experience it himself you ever seen a child get shoot up or dead body’s under a sheets having a gun pointed to your head.... you would think differently cowards always talk the braves.
Edgy .. you’re such a joke .... death is final moron ......edgy you say look everyone Mr. social open mined guy here way to go William your the Donkey of the Day
For those defending this game, let's just say someone made a game based on child molestation, where your goal as the molester is to abduct and rape children (unseen of course), and you could also play as the children trying to escape, would you guys also defend that game too? Just curious.
Hey DJ, I'm an RN, I see it every day. Have you ever loaded a dead child into a refrigerator? I have.
Art isn't for everyone. And every game isn't for everyone.
Death is extremely final, and you being rude and acting like you know more about death than I do is a joke. When is the last time you performed chest compressions on a dead body for 20 minutes?
I think you proved yourself the less educated person in this argument.
Reading the comment section here it's clear no one actually read the article. The game was not pulled from Steam because it was about shooting up a school. It was removed because the devs had been in trouble with Steam before and had already been banned. Steam admits it wasn't because of the content
Reread. In addition to this "publisher" being a troll, it was also due to content. Valve pretty much said it without blatantly saying it.
You should reread it because that's not what Steam says. Even Kotaku points out Steam is saying it isn't removing the game due to content
Everybody talks about freedom of expression until it hits a little too close to home.
Replies(5)Not sure freedom of speech/expression has been infringed upon here. The devs were well within their rights to make the game no matter anyones opinion on the content and are not punished legally for doing so. Steam has every right to decide what type of content they want to sell and that doesn't infringe free speech. The devs can host themselves or some other online digital game seller can allow it on their platform if they wish and that would be perfectly fine.
The difference between freedom of expression and glorifying these school shootings is massive. Funny how people will cry "freedom of" something when what they are doing to try to defend is disgusting but aren't smart enough to realize those "freedoms" go the other way and people don't need to put up with racist language or something like this attempt to inject the school shootings into video games so they can be even more of a scapegoat.
This is Steams house, If I lived on your property would you allow me to live however I want? This is Steam kicking someone they dont agree with out of their house.
I think the game is in bad taste. I personally don't care if he continues to make it, nor really care who decides to sell it for them on whatever marketplace they choose.
I do think the game allows the media to point towards the industry as somehow complacent towards such things, and helps promote the idea that gamers are all psychopaths. As such, while I don't think Steam, or any market place, should be the arbiter of content beyond a quality control level, I do support Steam on this because of what the game is, and my own beliefs on the subject.
If the game had some redeeming value to have a method to the madness, as in it had been misreported about what the game is, then I'd have a different view.
So, in short, they're free to express themselves how they choose. I'm free to express how I feel. Steam is free to do what it wants. I can choose to give my support to whoever suits me.
Yeah, let’s blame violent games. Let’s not mention that you can buy guns and ammo in supermarkets like you are shopping for your vegetables. When Australia banned guns, gun related crime fell to almost 0%. Go figure
I keep forgetting that 99.9% of gun crimes in America were done by weapons purchased legally...................
......Oh wait.
That's kind of a dumb statement because it then shows the people shouldn't have been allowed to purchase them in the first place. You also neglected to mention often these guns are not being locked away so that the children of the legally owned owner guns are doing their due diligence. Of course you can say it's the responsibility of the guardian but given how easy it is to access them in the first place?
Now tell me again why automatic rifles should even be in the home in the first place besides some fallacy it's your right.
"Now tell me again why automatic rifles should even be in the home in the first place besides some fallacy it's your right."
Because we can, and some of us like going up to the mountains or a range and shoot for fun.
And Full automatic rifles are not legal.
Canada has strict laws compared to the states and we dont have nearly as many mass shootings.
and even our cops try and diffuse situations (most of the time) without firing their weapon
I am always shocked at how ignorant people are with regard to firearms, it is really sad.
1.) Australia had 1 major mass shooting PRIOR to enacting gun control - and just had a mass shooting LAST WEEK
2.) While "firearm related" homicides are low per capita, MURDER, (rape, robbery, assault) are far higher than in the US. - is the goal to be "safe" from harm or just the method of the attack. Well he is dead but at least he wasn't shot.. UGH
3.) Why don't you look at Defensive uses of firearms? According to FBI justice department stats - approximately 500,000 - 2 million defensive uses of firearms per year - last year data completed 2015
e.g. Our family had 2 individuals try to rob our home and we were able to hold them at gun point until law enforcement arrived
So guns are good?
So if my car broke down and i rocked up at your place, I could get my head blown off
@radical
Well that depends. Are you going to break and enter into the house unnanounced? Or knock on the door....Jesus what a stupid comment.
Acid and knife attacks are so more civilized. Truck attacks people don’t even have a chance to duck out of the way. But ya, guns bad.
I can understand why they removed it since the backlash was immense, but I see little difference between a game like this (at least in terms of subject matter) and something like GTA. Both are based around a crime that is rampant in the US and both allow you to murder to your heart's content in a way that would be possible in real life. I'm not saying I'd WANT to play a game about a school shooting, but I think if GTA, Manhunt, Yandere Sim etc have a right to exist this should too.
The difference is this game had a campaign/scenario that was a high school shooting. GTA has you doing criminal things but not a campaign dedicated to a specific type of shooting. I don't see how it's difficult to see.
GTA has a campaign dedicated to high levels of robbery, terrorism and smuggling. I'm not interested in playing this school shooter but if you were to recreate the events of both games, GTAV's bodycount would massive times bigger!
So killing is OK as long as its not a school?
Pretty sure killing innocents is bad no matter the age.
You make a valid point. Though in this instance I believe that the makers of this game were simply trying to cash in quick on a very sad fact that plagues America, which is the rampant and rising increase of school shootings.
The creators who made this literally did so knowing that it was in poor taste. GTA on the other hand has more to it than simply focusing on merely shooting people (it has plot and various game mechanics to spice up what the game offers, such as racing, etc). If GTA was simply about entering, say, a concert and shooting everyone in the face, it would receive a lot more hate.
That's like saying you can have a game like Surgeon Simulator and a game on Abortion. The fact is Steam is a private company and they have a right to filter out controversial games which this is. Some game designers are clearly making games just for controversy and hey, they have every right to make them and if they want they can publish their own game and release it on their own website.
I like how people apply different standards for different games. It's the double standard. GTA literally has missions based on crime and killing and even torturing, Modern Warfare 2 had a mission where you can shoot up innocent civilians in an airport. There is a HUGE variety of games that have you killing innocent people. It's ok if it takes place at an airport or anywhere else, but how dare they have it take place at a school. As if human lives matter more if they happen to be in a certain building. Pretty weird to me. It seems that this standard only applies to indy games like Hatred but if it's a triple-A game, then it's ok.
I know I'm outraged. / sarcasm.
I'd be more in to this game if when you killed the kids fruit would pop out of them and you could then use that fruit to barter for wacky outfits.
Disturbing, but this is an indie game. Anything goes with indies.
Also freedom of speech.
Oh goodie, more ammunition for the politicians to try an enforce Australian levels of video game censorship here in the USA...