Handheld Players has asked several developers why they are still making PS Vita games in 2018.
well.. there are like 15 million or so of us who actually own the device. And while it might be on life support around the world, in Japan it still does ok numbers for some of the more popular Japanese franchises.
Vita games still sell to its niche audience. There was a time when handheld gaming market was able to sustain itself but theres just not enough people who want a device that only just plays games. Sony has to think long and hard about its next step in the portable market. If they come out with a new device it has to do MANY things and more importantly do them WELL like the PS4 . In my opinion they need to do 1 of 2 things 1) bring the PS4 experience on the go with NO COMPROMISES. How they do this I don't know but Nintendo found a way and if Sony is a better company than so can they. 2) they need to create the Playstion Phone or Playstation Tablet but the kicker is that it must perform and do multiple tasks well so that it makes people REPLACE the phones and tablets we have now. And you must be able to synch a Dualshock via blutooth. and either way they go they must get 3rd party support or it will not break out toward a huge success.
I wouldn't compare Nintendo's efforts with the switch to the task of making a portable PS4 that's profitable. The PS4 is still plenty more powerful than the Switch, and it wasn't designed with power consumption in mind. If they can make it happen, I think it would be great. But I think your second idea is better, something I've wanted too; a line of Playstation phones and tablets that are powerful enough to do both gaming and everything else that we expect out of that area well. Problem is, in mobile gaming most people are expecting free to $5 per game, something which wouldn't really do the Playstation brand a great deal of justice. On top of that, would it really be smart to take on Google and Apple? It's a conondrum. I know I would be down for a Playstation Tablet with premium priced Playstation games but I don't know how big the market is.
Veneno. That's exactly what it is too. Niche audience. All those Japanese and JRPGs, etc. After the PSP I thought I wouldn't bite again. Eventually, maybe a year after launch on Black Friday, I bought the white AC Liberation bundle. Which was a phenomenal game... At first the Vita was looking promising, like the Switch, in regards to software. Some great games and some ports were put out in the first 2-3 years. Shortly after whatever the time frame was is when developers just weren't bringing the content. It quickly turned and lead into exactly what the Vita had become for some time now and still is. A niche market with niche games. And while you mention if Nintendo could then if Sony is a better company... The thing is, the Switch does compromise. You don't get full PS4 resolution, etc. Docked it seems to be adequate but go into handheld and there's compromise. Even docked Xenoblade Chronicles 2, though a great game, had a TON of pop in and other somewhat trivial issues that I was able to look past because the game was so fun. Furthermore, the fact of the matter is that the problem is not whether Sony can do it but at what cost and will consumers pay it. Sure Sony could design a tablet, handheld or Hybrid (Switch) that has the power but are consumers going to pay $600-800+. All that horsepower in a tiny frame, proper cooling, and preferably an OLED panel. For Sony to produce a device it would surely be costly.
"PS4 EXPERIENCE WITH NO COMPROMISE" Now, this is simply retarded. Why? Because a FULL HD screen in a handheld device is completely unneccesary. Even sub-HD screen on Vita is awesome.
I hear alot of excuses in these replies. The bottom line is Sony has to make a bold move and have developer support. They obviously cant just keep doing the same and make another failure like the Vita.
System sells an abnormally high amount of software compared to the install base. It has one of the highest attach rates of any console in history....including the current gen consoles. That's why it's always gotten software, because it's a niche machine, and that niche tends to buy a lot of games for it.
Switch has a much higher attach rate for 1st party software. Look at Zelda, MK8 and Mario Odyssey. No offense, but Vita has very few games that have sold over a million copies.
Attach rate isn't based on a single title. It's based on overall software sales. For instance, On the WiiU, it stopped getting decent 3rd party support early, because a lot of games weren't selling outside of those 1st party games. The reason the Vita keeps getting software is because that software keeps selling enough to make it worth the developers while.
Yeah, 15+ million with a good attach rate of users who seem to enjoy niche and indie titles is a fine place to at least port a game to digitally. Vita will be here a while.
Because there is still an interested market. Silly question to be asked... Glad to see continued development and Sony should do another handheld with the flaws of the Vita corrected.
The flaws IMO: 1.the expensive cards 2.drop the gimmicks (back touch) 3.add R2 and l2 4. Make it cheaper 5. For the love of GOD have a monster Hunter game
You summed up the biggest flaws and it also needs more original IP's by Sony instead of worse versions of it's console IP's.
Adding R2 L2 would make it bulky. They might as well make a console that looks like a tablet, and people would have to use their dualshock controllers with it. The vita doesnt fit into most peoples pockets anyway (unless you got a big winter coat), you have to carry it in your bag. If people carried a dualshock instead, atleast they would have a better gaming experience. About being cheaper, they need to ditch the cameras. Everyone already has a phone for taking pictures, and game mechanics which utilise the camera suck in 99% of cases.
everything u just said is the truth. lose the gimmicks, add l2 and r2, allow micro sd cards
Not having enough exclusives game is also a very big flaw IMO. Imagine if Sony had support the PS Vita with great games like Nintendo did and still are doing for the 3DS, the Vita might have been in a very different place right now.
Nailed the flaws to a T. Hopefully they learn something from the few big issues the platform had if they make a new handheld. Having R2/L2 is pretty important. I don't see any reason why they cant add those two buttons like Nintendo did on New 3DS with the ZL / ZR buttons in line with the L/R buttons. It seems like developers are still interested in it because they can clearly move enough software there to make it worth while. People who have a Vita generally seem to love the thing despite its flaws. And Sony has been pretty flexible with making developer support accessible to smaller studios with Vita in particular, which I'm sure has been a huge asset to the platform and helping it stay alive. Honestly, if they just released a faster model that addressed the issues with the current system, it could become one of the best dedicated handheld gaming devices ever made.
Its not really a ton of support, and the vita do didn't as poorly outside north america as far as I can tell.
That’s not answering the title’s question.
I think it is, the vita died in North America already but it has a little life in other regions. They are still barely getting support, but it explains why they are bothering with it... especially when its very easy to get indie games that run on ps4 to run on vita in many cases. Just look at the devs/publishers still putting out games for the vita and where they are located... CowCat - France Flying Oak - France rainbite - New Zealand eastasiasoft - Hong Kong Behind the stone - Germany Rainbite - New Zealand etc etc etc.. Also, look at this list, its barely anything http://ca.ign.com/upcoming/...
The title asked “ why are developers still making games.” http://www.handheldplayers.... You didn’t address that question. You simply changed the narrative and made your own.
It doesn't get a wide variety, in that it doesn't get a lot of the mainstream type titles. But it gets a lot of support in the niche. To that end, there are a lot of people who buy games in that niche, so the system sells a lot of those kinds of games. Vita isn't doing great in the US, and hasn't for a long time, but it still has a dedicated following, and even GameStop stocks the new games without having to preorder, so it can't be that bad unless you just want the kinds of games that it doesn't have. People that own a Vita, and like the kinds of games coming for it, aren't starving for new content, and there are new games releasing every month to retail. It also has a pretty healthy indie scene.
Cause the false narrative, that has been pushed for years, is that the Vita is dead. Games still sell on the Vita. http://www.handheldplayers....
its dead in north america, and the amount of games coming out now is minuscule from small mostly European devs porting indie ps4 games to it. Its also not quite dead in Japan.
Again, you’re not addressing the title of the article. And this isn’t a minuscule list. http://www.handheldplayers....
Because I buy them.
The psp/psvita rpg list is second to none when it comes to handhelds. It just has COUNTLESS amounts of good rpgs/jrpgs and srpgs. Not to mention it has the PS1 rpgs. The ps vita now gets has access to most of the psp made games from the past. Not to mention that now you can hack your ps vita and put ps3 games, and tons of the other platform games of the past on it. The psvita, imo, is hands down the greatest of all handhelds.
To be fair, it's an awesome device. It's one of the funniest systems I have owned in over 30 years of gaming. Collecting games for it is fun as well. It is also shown that vita owners BUY GAMES. At least the hardcore ones. It missed the mark for mainstream success, but people still love it.
same reason 3rd party devs are making games on thw switch.... $$$$
And why shouldn't they, still have my Vita such a great system Sony should of supported it more.
They likely still sell overseas.. I really liked the vita but the switch renders it obsolete for me personally
The attach rate for Vita software has always been really high. There have even been stories of certain Vita games, like visual novels, outselling their PS4 counterparts. I have to imagine that the Switch will be the biggest thing that hurts sales going forward. I personally have found myself torn between Switch and Vita versions of games but ultimately siding with the Switch versions in most cases. The screen is just bigger and nicer and the fact that I can play it on the big screen via the dock just seals the deal.
It’s still going because it has a small but passionate install base. If it hadn’t been for the switch it would have kept going for many years to come. As it is, with the switch offering handheld indies it feels like the vita is on its final descent to truly being dead. It was a great run and I’m sad to see it’s end in sight. i hate mobile and tablet games with a passion so I hope that dedicated handhelds offering proper physical controls and quality AAA games never die out.
because it's a perfect size for handheld gaming just like 3DS, I have a Switch but it's just so damn bulky to take out in public and start gaming, I only play it handheld mode on long flight or when laying in my bed.
I'd personally like to see a Vita 2 that's like the Nintendo Switch, that can play PS5 games whenever that comes out at some kind of lower resolution. Shouldn't be too hard if it's 720p and the PS5 is 4k, that's 1/12 the processing requirements from the GPU. Baring in mind weaker mobile CPU/Ram of course. God, post Switch launch I have to force myself to sit at the tv.
“Shouldn't be too hard if it's 720p and the PS5 is 4k, that's 1/12 the processing requirements from the GPU.” That is not how technology works. You can't just lower the resolution and expect everything to run flawlessly without problems. If that the case the Switch would be able to run many X1/PS4 without any problems. Plus, think of the price. It would be insanely expensive, if it is even possible to contain that much power in a handheld at all.
Vita position in Japan is the same position of X1 in the Global(except USA) maybe a bit less.
its a good handheld, the power, the design.... but the fact that it uses Sony proprietary expensive memory cards is what makes it fail while 3DS uses SD card. I wish they would localize their japanese vita games, titles like Phantasy Star, Monster Hunter G is either still in japanese or only translated to chinese.
Its kinda strange. They had this app called near. It was actually a great solid idea. U could see sony players in ur area and what tgey were playing. I saw some ppl playing toukiden in my street and sent a friend invite. I play with them still l Why they canned all support and removed this app i have no idea- u only saw what game they were playing and tag name
It’s mainly just Japanese and indie, ie games that the device can easily handle and can be easily ported. So, why not? Extra money.
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