Quantic Dream's upcoming review embargo has been revealed, apparently, review codes have already been sent to media outlets. What's your score predictions?
Given that its a Sony Exclusive, and the fact it's made by David Cage, and the fact that it'll be labelled an "interactive movie" and the fact that games journalism has become a platform for SJW's to sound off... I don't reckon it'll get more that a 7.9
PlayStation exclusives get rated higher than that all the time though.
definitely something i will be buying, but not day one. i have a bunch of games i haven't started yet.
David Cage PlayStation games have always averaged out at about 7.5 on metacritic.
Knack, Driveclub and the Order say otherwise. Maybe these games are good and people enjoy them. Not every game has to be an open world 1st or 3rd person shooter to be good.
Yeah, but there's an abusive father in the game. That somehow makes the game sexist and misogynist, because some people think that the inclusion of something is promoting that said thing is OK....despite the fact you can determine how to handle that situation. In other words....there are a lot of stupid people in the world who shouldn't be allowed to have a soap box. Otherwise, Kotaku and Polygon will rate it 6 for it, other reviews will be mixed between 5-9.
Before this game, the only good game with a robot in Detroit would be RoboCop. "Your move, creep", "Thank you for your cooperation, good night"
ArchangeIMike I'm sorry ,no one love sony games as much as i do but this is BS Sony games get great scores all the time when they are great and most of the time get most GoTY awards But if the game is not good then it will get what it deserve Be fair
Thats not a golden rule. Knack 1 and 2, The Order 1886, hell even Beyond: Two souls have all been less than stellar PS Exclusives.
Bouzebbal - oddly, I'm more excited for this than I was for God of War. , and GoW is great.
Don’t know what you are talking about. Sony exclusives do just fine critically. Have you been living under a rock?
Not so much David Cage games though.
Did you not see all the fuss in the press every time there s a chance to have a go at David Cage? Or the poor shocked gaming journalists because they see some nude women or whatever reason they can make up? Mike is spot on
David Cage games are usually a bit divisive in terms of reviews. I don't care what score this gets, to be honest. I'm buying it to support him. I love all of his games, they're always really unique. This one will be no exception.
8/10 is a very good score.
Sadly, I kind of agree with your opinion.
David Cage brought in writers/director from Sony Picture Entertainment, Warner Bros and game studio to write the script and direct.
Dont get me wrong, I loved the demo, I've got this game on pre-order and will enjoy every moment regardless of the review scores. I'm just aware that the game and Quantic Dream has been the focus of some media backlash lately. I'm hoping the game score highly and is a critical Sucess.
Heavy Rain has an 87 metacritic
I actually agree games journalism has become quite low standards and we have no need to inject snowflake issues into games or be offended by entertainment
Markusb33, what are snowflake issues?
If anything I assume this game will be loaded with SJW stuff. They'll probably give it an 8.5 just for that even though the gameplay will be awful just like all his past games.
Except for the whole accusations of sexual harassment or terrible working conditions at his studio.
I agree with you 1000% For some reason David Cage rubs Gaming Journalist the wrong way, it never fails. People need to stop blindly being "FANS" (Fan is short for Fanatic) and pay attention to what @ArchangelMike is saying, and also look at the review history of games that David Cage makes. For the record I have this game Pre-Ordered and will be supporting it regardless of Review Scores. I have been waiting on this game since it was first introduced at E3. Last but not least, Heavy Rain is one of my favorite games of all time. So trust me when I tell you, im a big supporter of Quantic Dream.
I'm going to play the game regardless. I've enjoyed all their games in the past, and they tend to have mixed reviews. They aren't among my favorite games, but certainly worth playing. Unfortunately, the gaming press tends to not really view these kinds of games that highly. The only exceptions were The Walking Dead and Until Dawn, otherwise, they tend to be very devisive giving it a lower meta average than what they're probably actually worth rating at.
But the game isnt PC, sjw garbage right? I hope...
I think it's all about rape, domestic violence and robots.
Triple A game. Guarantees 9.5 avg from all major reviewers. In reality probably deserves a 7.5
Huh. I would guess it's going to be trash and it'll be funny to see all the angry fanboys begging for the end of many websites for 5-7/10 reviews.
CurbStompin - What reality do you live in? Good graphics, great art direction, the world has been fleshed really well from what we've seen. Has huge potential to tell a good story and have lots replay value. G3ng4r - What if your 'guess' is wrong? Remember it won't be for everyone and the sales wont be HZD, GOW numbers. And the heat for bad review scores would be docking points for not very valid reasons.
I don't worry about review scores unless the game gets a meta below 40. There are so many amazing games with meta scores in the 60's AND 70's. that people miss out by focusing on the score. Not to mention anything below 85 is often calssed as being terrible or a failure by the masses. Plus i believe high scores are very rare today as many reviewers have no idea how to be subjective. I.e. you get a reviewer who hates all racing games review a racing game and saying they found it boring.
Heavy Rain has a 92.
it should get more points just for being a single player story driven game and not an open world or mp only game.
@archangelMike "David Cage PlayStation games have always averaged out at about 7.5 on metacritic." http://www.metacritic.com/g... Your facts are from where?
I am excepting 80s, thinking no lower than 70s, and hoping for 90s.
Don't stop there, where's your faith? Walk the distance and pray for a 10.
10s for a decision making simulator lol.
These type of games are hit or miss in reviews but it should do well sales wise for the type of game it is.
Yeah, this type of game doesn't appeal to a huge audience. I played the demo and I love the concept of androids. similar to westworld. So i'll be picking this up.. But I can see that this may not necessarily bode well with the average gamer.
Yeah I'll probably pick it up too. Looks pretty interesting story wise and I always enjoy a great story. Hopefully this game delivers.
Well that depends. If it's "good" and I mean that for the typical gamer, then even if it's not GOW amazing review wise it can still sell well. If word of mouth is good and 1 in 20 PS4 owners buy it, then that's 3.75 million.
I think Detroit Become Human will sell well, based on previous Quantic Dream game sales they have always sold in excess of 3 million copies. Also Until Dawn sold very well for a "interactive movie", so much so that there is a possible sequel int he works. We are also in the season of Westworld, and that is getting alot of hype, and it is intevitable that comparisons will be drawn between Detroit and Westworld.
I certainly will be buying:)
For some reason i think telltale gets a free pass on this genre while cage gets scrutanized
There is quite a price difference though, so that has to factor in. If TT tried to sell their games for $60, they'd be in trouble.
All the chapters still add up to $40 - $60
Telltale games have a stylized, almost comic book look to them - QD games usually push 'realistic' graphics. I think I know which one costs more.
Cage is a terrible heavy handed writer and then he hires weird Eastern European voice actors to play Americans so most of the voice acting sucks too.
Funny....the cast list for Beyond was almost all American actors. Heavy Rain had a lot of Canadian Actors, and the detective guy was actually very good....probably one of the best...although some of his dialouge was stupid.
David Cage's decisions are not consistent in their quality which is why he so divisive with his body of work. But the overall distinctive quality he has is that he brings different kinds of story and themes , and presentation to gaming. Not gameplay of course. That part is not as distinctive other than its trademark jankiness lol. But all in all we need Cage to be in the industry because he fulfills a voice and presence that no other developer brings to the table. Variety is the spice of life.
Well he has hired other writers for Detroit, in fact Adam Williams is the lead writer for the game, so hopefully the writing and scripting will be much better than previous Quantic Games. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Really only The Walking Dead seems to get that pass. Their other games tend to have quite the range in reviews. I do think that most reviewers overlook the technical problems with their engine though.
I do expect 7's here & there. But overall, I feel like it’ll have more 8's & 9's. It’s important to remember also, that while these types of games have a fan base that’s growing more and more, many out their don’t see these as video games. Having said that, I'm genuinely more curious to hear/read with the reviews how immersive & engaging the story is, along with how the 3 characters change over time, and with the choices you make. Knowing QD’s past work with Heavy Rain & Beyond ( which are in my top 10 favorite video games of the last generation) I have no real worries about the score for Detroit. Heavy Rain didn’t have “Uncharted” level voice acting, but what was there was still good “in my opinion” and was enough to make me care for the characters & become an emotional wreck when i didn’t save Shauns So the dev’s and actors did their jobs very well, in the end. And with Beyond (while less interactive than HR “in my opinion” the voice acting and just overall quality of the performances were remarkable & a BIG step up from HR, thanks to the wonderful cast, E. Paige & W. Dafoe. Can’t wait to play as Kara, Connor, and Markus!
Its not a game for everyone, I loved HR though and if Detroit is close to something like that I reckon it should score between 78 to 85 avg. Hoping for a bunch of 10s and 9s though.
I will buy, but waiting for sale, busy with dragon crown pro at the moment.
I see reviews being the same as their past games like beyond two souls.
Even though beyond 2 souls only scored an avwrage of 6-7 I still picked it up because QD's games are always worth experiencing because they are so distinctive and always bring something different to the industry. Beyond was definitely flawed but Im still glad I played it because it really is something different and you never knew which way the game would go so it keeps you engaged. And that is an experience and perspective worth having.
It's honestly difficult to tell how this game will score purely because it'll be mostly judged on how well the overall story and themes and pacing is etc. That can go either way at this point. Heavy Rain was a critical success and the formula worked well for it but Beyond: Two Souls was disjointed and got very mixed reviews. It happens with Telltale too. I feel all their games are pretty much the same in terms of quality, but you get some that get outstanding reviews (like Tales from the Borderlands and the first season of Walking Dead) and not so great ones (like Game of Thrones). I feel even something like Life is Strange is something that is reliant on its story and writing and it's really those final moments in the story that really hit you in the gut and reflect on everything you just played. I don't think any number is a sure thing at this point. It can range from 55 to 95 the way I see it.
I hope it’s going to be at least 85+ meta
You should instead hope that David cage and Quantic stick to their guns and bring something different and unexpected to gaming. Metascore will not play a role in the game's success or legacy because it is setting out to do something different. Their goals are different.
The graphics downgrade is real with this one, but I'm still intrigued at the possibilities of gameplay and decision making. I love games where my choices determine how a game plays out.
Stop with the downgrade bs
stop with the truth? nah i'm good. This game looks off compared to the reveal. It's just the truth. It still interests me but of course you paid no interest to the good part of my comment, just the negative of a clear gfx downgrade lol.
I played the demo...I don't know what you talking about. What downgrade? Graphics are outstanding. Voice acting is little iffi but all in all...8
80 - 85 based on the demo.
My thoughts too. I'm thinking 84. Better than Beyond, but worse than Heavy Rain (in this industry climate).
GOW no embargo, DBH embargo, Hmm, I have faith in Sony and David Cage though so I hope it does well and is a decent game I really liked the demo played it about 5 times.
Could be to prevent story spoilers. Cage tends to be pretty hard ass about that kind of thing. He even petitioned Sony to get an exception for delayed trophies so they wouldn't pop during the game itself.
nice, i sure hope that's the reason, because we see what that did for Knack :( however I enjoyed Knack better than Knack 2
84. It will get good reviews. Sales, 1.7 million.
I'm gonna say 600,000 for sales.