It's more than just an idea, this article explores how Sony might consider their approach to a PlayStation 5.
December, with a Nov 2019 release. Ghost of Tsushima will be PS5 exclusive and TLOU2 and DEATH STRANDING will be cross platform, with Death Stranding being a launch title.
Care to elaborate? No gameplay has been shown of any of those games, I think the reason is because they are hiding that it is clearly next gen
@yellowgerbil Sony would not intentionally reveal an exclusive PS5 game before the PS5 is announced. This is not an old game that went through development hell, later to be revived the following gen (Last Guardian). It would serve nothing else than to put a bad taste in the mouth of fans. A cross gen version might happen, but I can assure you anything we have seen is more than likely a guarantee for PS4. Also it is more likely that it will come in 2020, giving the PS4 Pro a full three years on the market. It would be a major spit in the face to release something before then. Lets not even talk about the inflation of GPU chips right now. Until they come back down from this whole bitcoin fiasco, we will not be seeing anything new I am sure.
Keep in mind the dynamic this gen is different. The same software can very easily be ran on multiple systems across multiple generations now, so it is very likely that Sony will employ some sort of system that blurs the generational lines... I could see, in order to make devs happy because they don't have to reset the install base each gen, them allowing maybe PS4 Pro to play scaled down versions of a PS5 game, at much lower resolutions and framerate, etc... PS5 gives the stock experience, PS5 Pro the full experience. A 3 system, 2 generation spread giving that sort of forward-backward compatibility with the same games would be a developer's dream, and it helps Sony keep selling systems as well, as people don't have to wait through launch title hell to get to the good games... game development could be taking a new direction now for consoles.
Those games could be shown at E3
Loom back to watchdogs and 1313 both were reveLed before the next gen was announced but it was clear that they were next gen games, I'd say ghost of tsushima is Dec ps5 and it would make sense for the other 2 to release on both gens like Zelda did
Its already confirmed those games GOT, DS, LOU2 will reveal their very first gameplay this E3. Thats why i say always research and then come here and comment.
@ceaser he was saying about no gameplay being shown yet and so I said about E3 so it doesn't matter if I said "could" or "will be" as i did say E3 so why not tell him to do research then
@Shiken not that I agree with yellow gerbil, but he said launch title, not ps5 exclusive. Which yeah I can see your point of that being bad news if it were, but I can see death stranding releasing go both consoles as a day 1 ps5 title.
Lol! Mr Yellow PS5 games are under development. The games show this gen are all PS4 exclusives which will make their way to PS5 as well. GOT is a PS4 exclusive releasing next year. I mean dont you watch trailers and talks shows post gaming conference. Every games shown are running on the PS4/pro. And then you come here and say Otherwise..
Kiwi i said it to him. Not you. Sorry for the misunderstanding..
PS4 is 4 1/2 years old. Obviously it's not new anymore, but those game you say are "clearly next gen" have plenty of time for release. God of War II came out *after* PS3 released. The Last of Us came out the same year PS4 did. They have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to first party content. There is no reason to be forcing anything, and this media rush to get the PS5 out is getting a little ridiculous now. Ghost of Tsushima was barely announced 6 months ago, and with all the other games that have been consistently releasing, showing gameplay just for the sake of showing it not only takes away from the more current releases, but then you're gonna have people complaining about those releases without dates.
Death Stranding, TLOU Part II, Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man is already confirmed that those titles is the only main focus of PlayStation E3 First Party game. So can already expect gameplay to be finally showed.
That sounds reasonable. At the latest i would say march 2020, but nov 2019 is looking likely. I also think it will launch at the same time as TLou 2 as you say. But rather than next gen i think backwards compatible. So ps4 pro dynamic resolution, ps5 stable resolution for TLOU 2 plus tweaks.
Yeah that could happen but I think they'll want people knowing they work with ps5 so could see them making it a new package that says works with ps4 and 5 that way they can use it to promote their new system too, because the ps4 took some criticisms early on for not having games
Sony always seems to release new consoles during the holiday season. My best guess is holiday 2019 or 2020 at the latest. Just my thoughts, I don't have a crystal ball so I could be way off.
The only.one of those titles that I could see being cross gen is Death Stranding. I'm sure some third party titles will be, but I think backwards compatibility from here on out will also improve frame rate and maybe allow for a resolution boost. So Sony could show all those games running 4K 60fps on the PS5 without having to be ported over or anything like that.
No way. They’ll announce it at e3 2019 for a holiday 2020 release most likely. All of those titles you just mentioned are PS4 releases anyway. They wouldn’t just change direction. The ps5 will launch with something most likely not announced yet.... in at least 2020.
yellow i believe you are right and that is only because sony can do it 2 way or have 2 options: 1. release ps5 in fall 2019 and have the whole next gen market to themselves. They can use the slogan every games looks/plays better on our console and by the time next xbox comes out ps5 will have a install base of 10-15 million 2. release it in 2020 alongside xbox. As a long time PS fan i have zero doubts ps5 can dominate xbox 2 even if they launch same date but smart business says you launch in 2019 and get a year ahead start. By the time xbox 2 comes out ps5 would remain the lead console and publishers would have hard time passing up on a already set install base for those of you saying reveal at E3 2019 and release in fall 2020 that's not the way ms or sony will do it. Expect a reveal event around GDC and more info to follow at same year's E3 than release same year during winter time MS launched xbox360 a year before ps3 and we all know how well they did but my biggest question is will MS release their next xbox in fall 2020 when they just came out with xbox x? fall 2021 in my opinion?
Good god peopl! Sony already said no new hardware.. why so desperate? The pro is great for now..
That statement makes no sense whatsoever
PS5 IN 2019 = 6 YR Release
I disagree with you. Sony did say before that the PS3 life cycle, which was 7 years, was too long. So the PS4 having a 6 years life cycle and the PS5 releasing in 2019 is very much possible since they said the PS4 Pro didn't extend the life cycle of the PS4. 2019 or 2020 is definitely when the PS5 releases. Not earlier and not later than that.
@DarkZane The hardware needed to make a generation evolution is not going to be affordable enough to stuff into a $400 console in 2019. 2020 is the year they need to wait for so GDDR6 is fully available, Ryzen 2 can be reproduced into low cost 6 or 8 core CPUs, and 7nm GPUs have their refresh and launch at reasonable prices for the mid-range with enough performance to aim for +10 TFLOPS. Zen 2 is out now, it'll have a refresh in 2019 and Zen 3 (which is build upon Zen 2) will drop 2020. The PS5 will use low-powered CPUs based on Zen 2 / Zen 2 refresh / or Zen 3. Navi should release this Summer, Navi refresh should release 2019, and Next-Gen GPU should release in 2020. If the GPU follows the same trends as the PS4 did, then it should be based on the Navi refresh with features from the Next-Gen GPU to boost overall performance and keep price affordable. GDDR6 is scheduled for releases this year, by 2020 it will be the primary GRAM for mid/high end GPUs with HBM3/HBM4 ruling premium GPUs. This also gives the tech time to decrease in cost to fit up to 16GB into a PS5. The PS5 can be made in 2019, but the cost won't be ready until 2020.
ABizzel1 bro you do know companies like ms,sony and nintendo buy in millions of items at once so they get the prices which us consumers will never get. Sony can get all those items at reasonable prices if they buy enough of them but i agree with you on that sony has a very hard decision on their hands. Come out in 2020 alongside next xbox or come out a year early and have a 10 plus millions install base. Another thing i am interested in finding out is whether ms will come out with a new xbox in fall 2020 when they just came out with xbox x or are they looking at 2021 i was thinking fall 2020 like you but when sony announced their E3 plans it's kind of pointing towards a ps5 coming out in 2019. think about it sony could have waited with pro to be released alongside xbox x yet they came out a year early o put themselves in this position to come out ahead of next xbox. They understand better than ever before having a huge lead over your competition is great for business
@ABizzel1 Zen 2 isn't out yet. The Ryzen 2000 series is built upon Zen+. A basically a small die shrink and slightly optimized version of the 1000 series. Zen 2[the true next gen to Zen] will begin sampling at the end of this year, with a release date scheduled for next year.
@Darkzane Source? All I have found is Sony saying they want PS4 gen to be longer than PS3
E3 2019 PS5 teaser and E3 2020 PS5 release date announced with Games. And by early 2019 PS4 will cross 100 mil units sold.
Remember how/when they announced the PS4? Out of the ge blue and released 9 months later. (Iike they popped out baby, lol) I wouldn't expect a PS5 announcement from Sony at any gaming conferences but their own.
Recently, devs have said off the record they do not have dev kits yet and aren't aware of them existing yet. For a 2019 release, they'd have to be out there. Also, check out what Digital Foundry has to say. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
At least someone gets it.
The sweet spot, I just hope to god they don’t go cheap on the CPU next gen, it needs to be the central focus to make those breakthrough game features. This gen was all about getting visuals up to speed, next gen will be about everything else. Beyond Good and Evil 2 is 100% a PS5 title. God of War 2 will be a PS5 title if they want it to be bigger and more interactive. The current one really pushed the PS4 to it’s limits.
I know, God of war is the only title that makes my pro sound like a broken vacuum. And yes I've cleaned it lol
I think the lack of new game announcements at this E3 is a signal that it's on it's way. When the PS5 is announced they will want to debut stable of new games to go along side it. These new games will also be on the PS4 but will be feature PS5 titles to sell the system. A year head start on "Xbox 2" with new exclusives, 2019 is not out of the question.
I said the same thing. Watch throughout this year at Sony's game announcements at shows like E3, Paris Games Week, TGS, Playstation Event, etc. If we're not seeing a lot of new PS4 game announcements beyond what we already know about, that's a strong signal that PS5 is closer than people think.
Do we need really need PS5? 2020 at the earliest.
If sales stopped gens, we wouldn't have had a PS4 in 2013 or a PS3 in 2006. 2020 at the LATEST. Yes, it might cannibalize the sales of the PS4, but it will still sell. I think the Pro will be $300 by then and the base architecture, PS5 at $500.
Yeah, some games will still be cross gen. I think for at least two to three years into the generation we will see PS5/Xbox 2/PC games and PS5/Xbox 2/PS4/Xbox One/PC/Switch games. By then the PS4 should only be around $150 so I don't think it will have a difficult time continuing to sell.
Plus Sony will announce a ps4 pro slim imo with a 4k drive
So you're saying you need PS5 then..
I want it. Who doesn't? X1X is looking tantalizing for my expensive 4K TV.
So we're up to what now?.. 5+ articles a day about PS5? Man there's going to be like 2000 articles of this shit before it's even announced.
These won't get much less common either. Everyone's expecting it because it's time.
Agree with you but the same thing happened with x, there was a project scorpio article every other hour, its just par for the course.
So we have to endure all these articles for the next 2 years or do?
Well obviously. We're edging closer to our sun becoming a red giant and destroying the Earth but it doesn't mean it will happen anytime soon.
Its still too soon for a PS5, last gen lasted longer and PS3 had way less momentum than the PS4 does.
what i wanna know is why is the thumbnail for a ~$1000.00 USD series of HEDT processors LUL
History suggests 2021. Last gen was 8 years, every Playstation generation is a year longer than the previous and Sony said they want the PS4 gen to be longer than PS3
PS1 to PS2, and PS2 to PS3 were both 6 years, and no they didn't say that. Last gen was an anomaly.
Wow... so a company is releasing currently, and going to talk about more exclusives shown in great detail over all competition... and it is a new console is coming.. but a console with the worst drought in gaming history is what then? Waiting 5 more years due to their “beast” hardware?
This type of reasoning doesn't really work. PS4 sales don't really have room to increase year-over-year anymore, and now Sony themselves started to predict a decrease over last year. On the other side, Xbox sales still have potential for growth because there's a large number of people who haven't purchased one. It's really impossible to predict either way because Sony could try to squeeze as much life out of the PS4 as possible and ride the software sales out, or they could strike while the console is still popular and hit with a successor hoping that the popularity of the PS4 carries over before the PS4 sales slow to a crawl. Microsoft can either wipe the slate clean and go for a new console or they could aggressively put out software to try and increase the appeal and sell to the people that haven't bought one yet.
People contantly talked about NX because there was little content on Wii U. Why are there so many articles about PS5 when there’s hasn’t even been a formal announcement or anything?
Many claim Sony have confirmed it for next year
Yet nobody can provide actual proof of it It’s just random heresy because PS4 is almost five years old now
People seem to have missed when Sony said they created the Pro to extend the console cycle. From a business standpoint, 2019 doesn't make any sense.
Also this bitcoin fiasco with GPU won't help matters, Sony would be wise to wait until holiday 2020 release tbh with a psx 2019 reveal, E3 2020 games showcase, with a sept/Oct 2020 release
I know! What I don’t know is why the desperation? The pro is a great console with amazing games coming to it.. I don’t want a rushed console when pro and x look so damn good on my oled lg tv right now. I don’t want next gen to need a console refresh like the pro and x, so please Sony and ms unless you have some crazy powerful hardware already, let’s just wait.. You know what I would like... a handheld to compliment the console, kind of like switch..
I think in 2019 they might announce it, and at the end of 2020 it might release.
I agree. Such is the power of the might!
Something will be coming soon, but I'm looking more towards a GTX 1080TI.
Why? With the PS5 rumored with an 11TFLOPS GPU you are going to spend well over twice the price of what a possible PS5 console will cost just on a single PC graphics card that still only tops out at 11.3TFLOPS. I get it if you are PC gamer only. But, if you have a vested interest in the PS line why not just wait and let those 1080Ti prices come down a few hundred (down from $1000+ to maybe $600) and in doing so see how the rumors start to play out for the PS5 later in the year.
60 fps = answer
I don't believe the rumors of the PS5 having an 11 TFLOP GPU. I think that it would make Sony's console far too expensive. It will be more powerful than the Xbox One X for sure, but I think it's going to be 8 or 9 TFLOPs, which is still really good on a dedicated games console. I'm still not sure if I want to go full 4K, or if I want to get an ultra-wide 21:9 3170 x 1440 Acer Predator monitor. When you go with an ultra wide screen like I've been using for the last 4 years (2560 x 1080), it's kind of tough to go back to a 16:9 aspect ratio.
I think 2019 is a lock at this point. Release? Maybe (probably?) not, but we should definitely see it announced by the end of next year imo (maybe Spring after and release in 2020 at the latest). If e3 doesn't have more than a single New Internally Developed AAA game, 2019 might even be a release year. The last 2 years of PS3 only saw 3 'big' games announced in the last 2 years of its life cycle, which is about on par for Sony atm (Shadows Die Twice not being internally developed, but still one of the other huge assumed exclusives most recently announced). Other than Ghost, we've actually seen the same games at least 2-3 times come e3. Now we might finally see gameplay for them sure, but we've still known about DS, DG, TLOU2, etc for longer.. Granted there's still a big difference between 2019,1.5y come Holiday, and 2.5y for 2020. Anything could happen before then too.
Yeah, I'm keeping an eye on E3. Currently Sony's announced AAA titles are all out before the end of 2019. Considering they typically announce games 2-3 years in advance and have nothing else announced past 2019, E3's announcements should give us a good indicator of when they're looking at launching a PS5.
PlayStation 5 will release in year 2020 not 2019. Why? Because they need 7nm processor from AMD to justify a performance leap. Simply put if PS5 gets launched in 2019 then cost of 7nm will be very high plus if u add up cost of atleast 16gb RAM n 1or 2 tb hdd. Price will be around 600$. So to bring the cost down they will release it in 2020. Estimated price should be between 400 to 500$. And don't expect a performance jump like u had from ps1 to ps2 or ps2 to ps3 or ps3 to ps4. Last 5-6 years their has been not much improvement in RAM or Hard disk. So these area will see only 2x boost. Processor will gain the max of 4x to 5x boost.