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Evil Avatar: SOCOM: Confrontation - Day 1 Impressions

Evil Avatar writes: "Well, it's official - the season of gaming officially began yesterday (at least for me) with the release of SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation for the PS3. This game continues a franchise dating back to who knows when for Sony, and continues to ramp up the game to current-generation levels. The game is a over-the-shoulder FPS (guess that's an oxymoron...well, has first-person view through the scope ) pitting a team of military professionals against mercenaries in an all out war right in your own living room.

The Good

The game is simply gorgeous. The level design and detail exude time and dedication needed to create them, both in their scope (some of the levels are BIG) and the level of detail all over the place. Textures are crisp, and colors pop off the screen. Dynamic lighting is great, and there are different times of day to fight in which makes a big difference in your overall gameplay - or at least it did for me. Fighting at night is much more challenging as shadows creep into areas that were visible before, and ambushs all the more prevalent. Finally, the physics of the game are spot on with nice ragdoll characters to shoot and blow up. One special moment last night that stands out was me catching someone climbing up a ladder with a grenade launcher round. As he died, the foot of the character got caught in one of the rungs of the ladder, and he proceeded to dangle upside down for a few minutes of the game. Oh how I wish the in-game screenshot capability was in (more on that in a second)."

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pansenbaer5671d ago

Yeah I agree with the firmware update. It has so far taken me about 3 hours to download it alone.

El_Colombiano5671d ago

Wow are you on a 128kb/s connection or what?

crazy250005671d ago

maybe its the timing and connection speed

NegativeCreepWA5670d ago

I redownloaded both today the install took 5-6 min and the udate 7-8 min.

pansenbaer5670d ago

No I have cable. I have a feeling I started downloading the update at the same time most of the rest of the world did. Horrible experience so far. Its they are aware of the 'problem' with the servers, but isn't that why we beta tested? I have yet to play a game.

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TheExecutive5671d ago

the game didnt look that sharp in the beta. Have the visuals been upgraded quite a bit?

kevin11125670d ago

to me they definitely seem upgraded.

Itrguy0015670d ago

i hope i dont play against ppl who spray and pray.

FantasyStar5670d ago (Edited 5670d ago )

What's wrong with Spraying and Praying? It's still a technique and it's not my fault if you happen to die. Luck is a skill ya know :)

SSCOOLCHEA5670d ago

30 minutes to install. Gave me enough time to take a dump and read the manual . but socom is back so i forgive

NegativeCreepWA5670d ago (Edited 5670d ago )

Screw Socom, I just spent over an hour getting dropped out of rooms every time I readied up after I spent most the day trying to connect to the damn game. If you actually get to play its great. But right now its one of the most unfinished pieces of crap I've ever played.

Sorry for the rant but I'm pissed off and it needed to be said.

wolfehound225670d ago

well I do remember a lot of the same issues with Warhawk just give it some time.

jaysquared5670d ago

Yeah.. No complaining when PSN is free!

NegativeCreepWA5670d ago

I don't know about you guys, but when I buy a online only game I expect the online portion of it to work.

Crazywhitie5670d ago

Get an xbox 360 .. I have far less problems with the online there... I 'm haveing the same problems with Socom... Almost like the Beta Never Happen.. What can you expect when something is Free... Free = Crap

PoSTedUP5670d ago

its the first day, most games experience online difficulties in the beginning.

and for 50$ the least xbl can do is have some games worth buying, and maybe some better servers but i though free= crap? why does psn have better servers and better higher quality games? hmmm....

NegativeCreepWA5670d ago (Edited 5670d ago )

Correction most PSN games have online difficulties at launch.

Postedup you would be one of the first to jump all over a 360 game for having a small problem. Here's a game that's unplayable and the dumb #%*^s on this site cant even admit its a unfinished piece of crap.

SIX5670d ago

I understand your frustrations. I spent over an hour last night and couldn't even get into a game to see what this game looks like. Why don't they have a training room or something. All I wanted to do was see what the game looked like. I'm also pretty pissed off about this.

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Games to Play if You Miss SOCOM

Last year I wrote an article titled, The State of SOCOM. I discussed my
love and history for the beloved third person shooter that helped pioneer
online multiplayer on consoles. It has been six years since we last had a
new SOCOM game.

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LOOK_AT_THIS_I2439d ago

Baffles me as to why they have not done anything with this franchise. Seeing as how it was #1 on the official PlayStation poll.

With all the trash put up weekly on the App Store why has nobody done a clone of this yet. I've been playing Defiance as my go to 3rd person since 2013 but still nothing like that old school Socom/Socom 2 up all night gameplay.

ONESHOTV22439d ago

the only game on that list that's like socom is wild land if you want socom type games then you will have to invest in a PC

USMC_POLICE2439d ago

You are looking at the view point I.e 3rd person view. Rainbow six siege is probably most like socom aside from H-Hour

Majin-vegeta2439d ago

Army training grounds its F2P.

ion6662439d ago

Insurgency Socom mod perfect adaption. Play it

C-H-E-F2439d ago

RAINBOW SIX: is the closest you'll get to Socom.

Also, in response to @lookatthisi

They let go the creators, and I think socom is a game that's hard to clone even the creators had a hard time making Socom 2, Socom 3.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I2438d ago

No way man. The devs at Trion made Defiance. I know different genres different games but this could have very easily turned into a war game rather than a kill the mutants/aliens games. Ghost recon actual gameplay is about the closest to the old Socom feel due to the squad format and team commands but it was still clunky at times. Using the wheel was cumbersome to command teammates and strategies on how you approcahed a scenario.

FFS you could control your teammates with a microphone in the ps2 days. You can't tell me that it is that hard when people throw up mods on the pc all the time that mirror the original games using random game engines. These are professionals with money/tech that most people don't have access to.

(Seth Luisi was the problem at zipper, he tried capturing ghost recon/cod fans with Socom by slowly turning the Socom series into Frankenstein GR/COD lite games)

C-H-E-F2438d ago

Getting that feel, that rush being the last one alive, Rainbow Six is the closest I got to that feeling since Confrontation. And we all know that was a horrible Socom, but looking back at it, SC was a great game just had a horrible release.

I didn't play defiance, but ghost recon is and was trash.

InTheZoneAC2438d ago

A lot will defend Seth saying he was a puppet, but his inactions or actions didn't help. He helped ruin the franchise.

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Would You Buy SOCOM Confrontation for One Penny?

JM:
"Would you purchase a game you can’t play for a single penny? Video game retailer GameStop seems to think that it is worth trying to sell to this market."

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no, but i would buy a socom ps2 remastered collection for $60.00

XBLSkull3558d ago

Yeah I would definitely pay for a SOCOM remaster. Easily Sony's best franchise by a long shot, too bad they've managed to ruin it.

morganfell3558d ago

Back to the actual question, I own SOCOM Confrontation. The game was attacked relentlessly when it appeared. Some of those attacks were warranted. However one of the big things they used to assault the game was, "It's multiplayer only"

Where is that accusation now?

How is that MP only games suddenly get a pass?

If you stuck it out with SOCOM Confrontation you know that it took a lot of patches and 6 months. But if you kept your course you know a great secret. Confrontation eventually became a kick ass SOCOM game. Plenty of people played it the first week or the first month and dropped it. But to those that stuck around you know the game, eventually, kicked ass. I am not excusing it's state out of the box. But in the same breath I will also say it evolved into something deserving the SOCOM name.

TyBREAKR3558d ago (Edited 3558d ago )

Morganfell is right. That game was the most fun I had had in a Tps in a long time after it got fixed. It was very tactical.

guitarded773558d ago

Yup. Confrontation turned into a much better game over time. Just as MAG did. Too bad they're useless to own now (Which I do). I'm just hoping Sony brings back SOCOM on PS4 in a big way. I'd also like a Warhawk game. The shooter market has turned into to many twitch run, shoot, kill, die, spawn games. I like the slower pace of SOCOM, and the openness of Warhawk... actually, I just really prefer 3rd person shooters. Can't wait for Star Wars Battlefront. DICE better make it 3rd person. It can have a 1st person option like the others, but what fun is it to turn into a super character, and you can't see them?

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JackOfAllBlades3558d ago

That's a remaster I'm down for!

Afistnu3558d ago (Edited 3558d ago )

Only $60? I'd HAPPILY pay $60 for each PS2 Socom game. Hell, make it $250 and I'd pay it! Socom 1 and 2 are worth more alone!

Socom is 12 years old and still has better online features than multi million dollar games of 2014! Lobbies, User Created Ranked Rooms, able to allow or disallow certain weapon types, no explosions, and guess what?! The community back then actually voted out the scrubs who used OP weapons. Now THAT you don't see now days. If you pulled out the M203 in Socom, your ass was voted out before you even blinked.

meatnormous3558d ago

You bring back so many memories. You are absolutely right about the m203, that shit didn't fly back then.

TheDude793558d ago

Wasn't the IW80-A2 another popular "noob" gun that got lots of people kicked out for using? The M14...now that gun took some time to master, at the launch of SOCOM 2 anyways.

incredibleMULK3558d ago (Edited 3558d ago )

Glitchy garbage. Why pay $60 for a ps2 game on a new console, just play your old ps2.

The reason it did so well is there were no other ps2 multi player games to play. Look at the ps3 socom games....they didn't do so hot because people had battlefield, call of duty, Killzone,.....lots of choices.....socom suffered when the fans found new games.

If Sony didn't waste their $360 million on psnow they could've kept zipper opened and made another socom AND mag.

creatchee3558d ago

@DirtyPimp

I put in over 3,000 hours of SOCOM II. I'd pay more than 60 bucks for a simple HD version. Just give me East 19, Central 7, the breach maps, and Foxhunt all in glorious high definition and I'll gladly revisit the early 2000's on a nightly basis.

C-H-E-F3558d ago (Edited 3558d ago )

The servers are down.. I wouldn't buy any.. on top I own all except Socom 4... I couldn't dare taint my collection any more.

BTW: H-Hour is the new Socom... supposed to be S2 all over again... with some S1 mechanics.

nunley333558d ago

For a collector to have it on the shelf i can see them buying it,it's just a penny.

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admiralvic3558d ago

Depends the situation. Usually if they have a trade in X and get Y bonus for preowned purchases, a store will let you have the excess credit if you make 1 purchase and 1 cent is cheap enough where I wouldn't have to bother returning it or eating the cost out of laziness.

iamnsuperman3558d ago

1p isn't bad if you want a complete collection even if it is unplayable

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Daily Reaction: Game Over, Man

Stan replied passionately, sadness creasing his face, “they’re shutting us down. Offline, man, off-fucking-line. I dedicated my life to this, and it’s just ending. This is the last battle.” - PSLS

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Foolsjoker3936d ago

I am going to miss MAG and the SOCOM games.

doctorstrange3936d ago

Help me H-Hour, you are my only hope.

pixelsword3935d ago

Where did it say that MAG was shutting down?

pixelsword3935d ago

It would have been nice if they added that to the actual article instead of the wannabe tear-jerker stuff.

fenome3935d ago (Edited 3935d ago )

@pixelsword

I know right, I was thinking the same thing. It was more of a read between the lines and pick up the pieces in the comment section..

I didn't even really try this game, I almost picked it up a couple days at my local gameswap though. Glad I didn't now, I'm gonna have to let those guys know that the games a bust now.

This is exactly why I don't want an all digital future. Once the servers go down that's it, game over. I like that I can still put my Super Nintendo games in the console and it'll work even after all these years...

pixelsword3935d ago

I own(ed) it, I got a platinum and once I did, I went on once in a while, but never like I did before; I might put it in once or twice before the servers go down, or maybe I'll sell it to gamestop before they realize it.

TheUndertaker853934d ago (Edited 3934d ago )

The game was very under supported. I got my platinum then put some more time into it after. I stopped playing after one of those "Play with the Devs" days. Damn Devs always were on SVER and screwing over the other teams.

I caught one dev so desperate to show superiority he was altering things in the background for himself. Caught him multiple times with a bunker rocket only for him to stand there unphazed. After a bit I wasn't the only one on my platoon catching the BS at work. Since I rarely bother to go back. I do play with my cousin when he gets the urge to go play, otherwise I avoid it.

Have a few of my PSN friends looking to play before the servers get shut down. Probably will join in on that. I'm hoping MAG 2 happens for PS4 more than anything, hopefully without Zipper in the background this time. I have my digital copy on PSN for the time being though.

pixelsword3934d ago

Dude, they ALWAYS play SVER because the balance is in SVER's favor, and people have been complaining about that since the beta, plus they do change the background. Once in the beta, I found a good spot to ding one of SVER's bunkers, and the next day, the put a tree or a bar where I was so I could not do it.

In that sense, I'm glad Zipper is gone.

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dbjj120883936d ago

So long Mag. You were a promise... sort-of fulfilled.

Dead_Cell3935d ago (Edited 3935d ago )

Ask any player who put any decent amount of time in and they'll tell you it was promise fulfilled. It may not have reached the top sales or following ever but for the community and the people who cared for it, it delivered a hell of a lot.

sobekflakmonkey3935d ago (Edited 3935d ago )

That's what I've been hearing, I really hope they return to that game and make it a franchise, bring it back on PS4 with updated graphics, fix some of those bugs, as well as some of the mechanics, that shit would be awesome, they could have had a HUGE following for that game.

TheSaint3935d ago

Until Zipper broke it.

It was brilliant for a while.

Wedge193935d ago

MAG, I loved that game once upon a time

0pie3935d ago

i hope they will stop selling retail copies of mag if they close the game servers.

Dead_Cell3935d ago

They already have, it's removed from PSN along with all DLC and now it's just up to the retailers to stop supplying online.

0pie3935d ago

Thank you for the info sir. :)

TD_hastetheday3935d ago

MAG will be missed, my all-time favorite shooter. They're shutting servers down in January.

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