“Congrats @SonySantaMonica @yosp on the review scores and the upcoming launch of God of War. Looks like a special launch for the franchise, great job.”
Great to see good sportsmanship, let this inspire you Phil. Nintendo and Sony are no strangers to there exclusives receiving high scores. You guys can do it too.
This isn't sports, its business.
Congrats to Sony Santa Monica! ☆GOD MODE ON ☆ good luck Spencer..
Get your house in order before being so quick to congratulate the competition. He also congratulated the team for the review scores GoW is receiving. Fine but this is off the back of his own platform's latest exclusive sitting at 68....
@Septic He congratulates studios all the time. He is a gamer, not a suit
Xbox (at least in terms of exclusives) was arguably in a better state under Don Mattrick than Phil Spencer. All we have gotten since Spencer was hired is mediocrity and cancelled games.
He is still from a competing company and congratulating them is still a very respectful and professional thing to do which you don't see that often especially when kids on the internet like to push a myth about console wars.
Buisnessmanship? ; )
Sports are a business too man 🤦🏻♂️
Ok next time Phil should bash them for making a good game.
It is purely business. Phil had some fairly nasty words about Sony and single player games not too long ago where he specifically mentioned Horizon. He publicly denounced singleplayer games and claimed they have very little impact. He said that it was a questionable business strategy by Sony for their devs to continue investing in single player, story driven games. He also said that Sony couldn't do much outside of these types of games and insinuated that Sony had a poor strategy and that gamers didn't want these types of games. Based on his previous comments it's hard for me to believe that Phil is being genuine when he congratulates Sony/God of War.
As an xbox gamer he needs to get more competitive, there's a reason Sony is never congratulating him.
I'd rather MS be more prickish about it and make something of equal caliber.
What's hilarious is that some of the Xbox fans on twitter wants this game on Xbox
What's hilarious about that? Why wouldn't Xbox fans want a good game?
@Septic Because they bought an XB. If they wanted good games, they should buy a PS.
How is that funny? We see both Xbox and PS4 gamers do this about each other exclusives. You just had people wishing Sunset was on PS4 the other day on that Insomniac article
septic on super Saiyan defence force mode for Xbox...lmao😂 that's what a great exclusive like god of war can do! defend on my brother I can see u allover this article and others with the green shield
@Septic: Maybe its that for years "Sony fanboys" have been complaining about the shortage of MS 1st party games. How its either been "Halo Gears and Forza" for the longest time, or "the games are coming" during droughts. That they're "saving up" for the next system which was the excuse during the 360, then again for the XB1. Again, since we are talking about a business and not sports, the issue's always been that MS decisions in how they approach the market has not been based on feedback, but on where they wish to take things. That's how they're likely still hemmed in as a "FPS console" even if that's on longer a thing. They've actively ignored certain types of games along with certain types of gamers while only insisting that their systems have been for everyone and the contradiction between words and actions without apparent awareness has crippled them. Has largely left them out in the cold as far as JP games and that market is concerned. And all of that is kind of funny. More so when considering what fan base they have, who talk more about consoles than games. in that past they've attacked honest 360 owners looking for help for RRoD dismissing them for trolls, now they insist system power is the only important thing while waiting for Halo 6 (?) and insisting that the Switch isn't going to put them in 3rd place.
@ Godmars But the top 10 games sold on the X1 I believe 7 of them are fps
Lol, then they need to get a PS4...lol. it happens on all sides when a great exclusive is launched.
Because it's a Sony first party game, a real first party game, not that convoluted MS definition of first party. It will never come to Xbox. So for certain Xbox fans to want the game to come to Xbox is odd, they should know the reality of the situation. It's like wanting Halo on PlayStation, it's silly.
I'd rather have it on PC.
"But the top 10 games sold on the X1 I believe 7 of them are fps" Okay. They're still a FPS console. Though I'm honestly curious if people disagree with me because of that, or that MS have crippled Xbox but can't see how.
It's no different than PS players wanting Mass Effect last gen.
Microsoft has done this receiving over 9.0's on gears 4, halo 5, and Forza horizon 3. The issue is Microsoft just needs new IP's that aren't those big 3. Single player, with optional co-op would be ideal, not try to be the next overwatch, fort nite or pubg.
The issue is that they haven't had any real success aside from those IPs, and even then they're from their heydays.
LOL! Xbox fans aint happy https://www.youtube.com/wat...
haha When people say crapgamer I thought it was a joke, but i guess there is actually some guy who seriously calls himself that, go figure. Reading those comments is hilarious, those guys are honestly and truly mad Phil sent out a congratulatory tweet. Just wow.
lxeasy, I see what you're saying and agree, but it's not like MS has not recieved great scores on some of their exclusIves as well.
after the critical flop that was Sea of Thieves and the critical acclaim of god of War, I really want to see him reacting to all the SP games succeeding and still having impact in the industry. Maybe he will look back and rethink his statement
It's good to see Phil showing Sony Santa Monica sum love. Microsoft just needs to stop giving up on their new ip's so fast and give emm a chance to grow by making sequels and improve from their first outtings.
The best example of this was the first Uncharted...at the time it recieved received moderately high reviews, but sony stuck with it and a short time later we were gifted with Uncharted 2.
mkos007 Exactly, great example.
I think GOW is going to break records and prove him wrong again regarding SP games 'impact'
And Spiderman will follow. And Days Gone will follow. And others will follow. With plenty of variety in between obviously. Big SP games are completely relevant when added to a diverse mix of alternatives. Not everyone likes them but they'll still make people happy and make profit if theyre good...
And Detroit And TLOU 2 And Death Stranding
I am pretty sure he, as well as many over at MS, have thought about their stance quite hard before they decided to relay it to the public. A few high profile games hitting it big to prove them wrong isn't going to change the stance that they can make more money with less work by going to GaaS, nor will it remove the risk involved in actually producing a SP game, where if it flops, you lose more than what you would with a F2P style game that they seem to want to move towards. This is something a lot of publishers in the industry actually are moving towards though. However, most publishers still like to diversify their portfolio, and realize that there is a big enough market to support more than one style of gaming. But it's things like what Spencer said, or EA implies, that keeps investors weary about investing in the riskier projects, when there is potentially more reward with less risk in GaaS style games. At least for the time being, because eventually GaaS type games will flood the market the way the FPS market got flooded last gen, basically meaning that only a few titles actually end up returning big on investment.
Success happens when you dont focus on games as a service or disregard single player titles..
I actually believe with the wrong direcition ms is headed (has headed) all this gen, it would take a massive miracle to see ms succesful again. Which is damn sad.
The slate gets wiped clean every gen. They have a chance at something next gen but not this one but only if they make the right investments now.
Its actually heartbreaking and the best example of just simply being out of touch with gaming and its community. Microsoft is trying...just not hard enough. Money talks and they are not investing enough of it, too stuck on numbers and profit. While i do enjoy gaming on my X it saddens me to know that xbox days are numbered.
Yeah, it seems pretty bleak now. They brought out 'The Most Powerful Console Ever'.....and nothing really changed. It still doesn't have the good games ratio people want. So now what's their move? They did get a win with PUBG exclusivity, but it launched a mess. They had this game changing 'people don't want single player games anymore' title Sea of Thieves and it lost its charm super quickly because it was so repetitive and not much to do. Other games got released unfinished(ReCore) or just got scrapped all together (Scalebound). They delayed the other bullet in their chamber, Crackdown 3, and....well.... with God Of War and Spider-man quality type of games out these days, is Crackdown 3 really gonna be a console booster? Last I heard it wasn't looking too ready to earn praise, and MS needs a game of the year contender(Like they got with Cuphead). Last generation, Xbox 360 was my main system and all my friends were XBox Live'rs. It's so crazy how much MS has fallen behind from their decisions.
@Notorious not exactly because I had an OG Xbox(still have it) but the RRD x 4 and lack of exclusive games burnt me and the PR blunder of the Xbone reveal sealed the deal and it'll take more than a new gen to sway me! History shows that M$ starts off fairly strong but doesn't support their console and I'm not buying a $400. to $500. console just to watch it collect dust! I don't think they'll ever get back to where they were at the start of the 360 era. Edit: I feel bad for fans who still hold out hope and it infuriates me at how they are conducting business now!!!! It's not fair to those who bit the bullet and supported them in the early years!
Success happens when you focus on bringing a variety of games. That includes both single player games and multiplayer games as Sony (and Nintendo) are doing.
Which multiplayer games has Sony/Nintendo brought to the table that gave form of success?
Phil always congratulates Sony, but never tries to learn from them. Maybe next gen they will focus on games. GAAS is not the answer.
He can't learn from them because he doesn't really have that much power. He is basically just a PR guy, Microsoft's yes man.
Sitting in the board and referencing to the CEO of Microsoft driectly .... Hmmm - PR- really!
I'am saying this for a long time. Phil is just a talking head an says what the top of MS wants him to say, he has no power whatsoever.
SegaGamer That's exactly what i believe.
I actually don't believe Phil is so clueless as to believe that SP games can't be successful. He never even actually said they couldn't. When he said impact, he was speaking solely about how much money they can make...not on the impression that it makes among the consumer base or community. And that's what MS is. A company that focuses in on the business side of things at the expense of providing something great for the consumer. They can do that fine with GaaS, and can probably be successful with it. It's just annoying seeing them heralded as being a company that is doing something positive for gaming as a whole, when all they do is chase the easiest way to make the most money, while other publishers, devs, and console makers are taking more risks to actually make gaming more about the art. Sure, those other companies want to make as much money as possible, and may even make games to service these new trends because of that. But at least they do it in a more respectable way instead of putting all their eggs in one basket, or leaving segments of the market behind because it doesn't suit them to take any actual risks. Every successful IP in long standing or new franchises today started as a risk that could fail. Without fail there was no way to know before hand what would ever become of those franchises. But companies and devs took risks, and they reaped the rewards. In some cases those franchises were bastardized to try and get as much out of them as possible, but they all started somewhere....and that somewhere wasn't typically in a board room looking at statistics and trends at the expense of all else. The more that MS narrows in on current trends, instead of being a trend setter, the less relevant they'll make themselves in the long run. MS didn't create the GaaS concept. They just renamed it. They are not innovators, they are copiers, and in no way will they be taken seriously as a console maker if all they can push out is GaaS style games. They may be successful as a game publisher that way, but they're ruining the Xbox brand in the process. But that's probably OK for them, because the Xbox is now basically just a Windows service, that happens to have a console to access it.
You're telling me SoT wasn't a risk? A coop shared world pirate game ?
@Septic, yes Microsoft took one risk in the past 2 - 3 years. How many has Sony took? How many has Nintendo took?
@Notorious I'm sorry but Nintendo barely takes risks at all with their games. Yes their hardware they do it with but every single gen for them is Mario, Mario Kart, Smash, Zelda. Rinse and repeat. If Nintendo took risks with their games we would have seen a new Metroid by now.
So many great points and that's what gets me in that they get praised as if they are leading the charge towards the future! GAAS isn't going anywhere and I'm fine with that but what scares me is that big companies like EA and M$ want the industry to move towards that and that's why I go out of my way to support games that come to PlayStation that offer those great SP experiences! Not just the big AAA titles but the smaller ones as well. It's not just charity as they are really fun and with the numbers Sony is doing and the goodwill GOW is receiving that counters my GAAS concerns. It just sucks for those who supported M$ in the early days with the way things have gone the last decade or so! Just thankful Sony has the willingness to let devs create these amazing narrative driven SP games!
Any game is a risk. Even in an established franchise. But MS doesn't take the big risks. Hell, Mattrick took more risks, and SoT was started under him. What big risks have we seen under Spencers reign? What big risks can we expect given MS current GaaS talk and Spencer stating that SP games are "complicated"....whi ch pretty much means that MS doesn't see them as worth the risk. SoT from the beginning was structured as a F2P game, with the intent for long term monetization. That's one of the least risky paradigms in today's gaming market. It's lazy, and the same damn thing that we all criticized about the mobile market last gen. SoT has a higher production value, but so do a lot of F2P games that have also released. Some failed, some succeeded. But no, it's not risky in the same way that committing a 40-60 million dollar budget on something that if it flops means losing a lot more than whatever it is they lose on SoT, which by the looks of it is a mid-tier title with a budget of maybe 20 million.
@Ripptide, If Nintendo took risks with their games we would see A new ink based shooting game A new open world rpg about Xenoblades or something. A new Mario game where Mario had a gun A new Zelda game that is open world and unlike every other Zelda game before it Cardboard that you can play with And if they wanted to be really risky. All of that can happen within a 16 month time frame. Oh wait....
Phil Spencer is going to be congratulating Sony all year
Games like these are making uncle Phil fill out his application to join PlayStation one resume line at a time.
Well said Phil, thank God it wasn't that vile slob Aaron Greenberg.
Phil congrats Sony on like everything lol
Maybe hes a PS4 fanboy and thats why Xbox is struggling with games lol
Phil Spencer should take the time to reflect on why his company can’t produce titles that get congratulated by the competition
Because none of their studios come close to Sony's.
They could, but I get the feeling that Microsoft interferes too much
And when they do it’s becuz they paid some 3rd party developer not to release the game for everyone.
Nice phrasing. But when Sony or Nintendo does it, it's called "investing in development studios"
No, it’s fine to invest in a game from the get go, as long as you are also developing games of your own, but it seems to me that MS is guiltyer when it comes to buying games series that could be on all platforms to exclude other platforms. PUBG is a case in point. MS tends to BUY games, not MAKE them. Now whether said games would have happened anyway regardless of MS investment is anyone’s guess.