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Xbox One's 'Sea Of Thieves' Is No More Than 10% Of A Finished Game

Sea of Thieves has a whole ocean to explore, but it feels an inch deep after just a few hours of play. It's an unfinished title and players deserve better.

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Abash2226d ago

I agree, I have it on Game Pass and keep thinking "what the hell was Rare doing all these years" as I play. Hardly any content and the game feels empty

-Foxtrot2226d ago

Exactly...that long development and that’s all they have

Even the delay...what were these guys doing

Banjo Threeie, Conker 2...hell even a Grabbed by the Ghoulies sequel I would have rather had.

Gamist2dot02226d ago

"Even the delay...what were these guys doing"

Making the best water effects on the planet.

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_-EDMIX-_2226d ago

I'm still puzzled that Microsoft never made Conker's Bad Fur Day 2 even with the property very much being in the demographic of the hardcore market like they were aiming for all the way back in 2005.

-Foxtrot2226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

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Well they were going to Conkers Other Bad Fury Day along with Perfect Dark 2 and Kameo 2 but when Phil Spencer was head of first party studios he cancelled them...I think it was in favour of Kinect Sports and the like,

I don't understand why you'd make a game so ambitious like this when you are trying to get back to the good old glory days. Surely a sequel to a much loved old IP like Conker, Banjo or Kameo would be better to put you on the map rather then something like this.

The online focus it has feels like something Microsoft may have pushed onto them, after all this is the company who tried to force co-op on Scalebound before they cancelled it.

IamTylerDurden12226d ago

It's odd that the game is so empty but in a game with no character progression and the only incentive being cosmetics how can there be a severe lack of cosmetics? Maybe Sea o Thieves will improve but right now it doesn't seem to be worth $60.

Rachel_Alucard2226d ago

The closed Alpha from 2 years ago is the same as the beta from a month ago except now it has cosmetics and the sloop. Its embarassing to think what they were working on this whole time. I've seen new games come out and get sequels in the time they spent working on this the past 3 years. Yet somehow they still managed to make a mile wide puddle deep experience, blows my mind how hard everyone running the show struggles to create.

Araragifeels 2226d ago

This is the "No Man Sky" of Xbox. I was excited for the game since it look fun but if is really empty then there no point.

bouzebbal2225d ago (Edited 2225d ago )

and they dare to say that this is the best game rare has ever made.
This is a pure insult to the really legendary rare games where each one was a masterpiece.

i think some feathers will fall within xbox in the next few months.. mark my words...

IamTylerDurden12225d ago (Edited 2225d ago )

Not a good month for xbox. The xb1 loses NPD again and Sea of Thieves has worse review scores than No Man's Sky. To make matters worse Ni No Kuni II is an 88 Open Critic and God of War looks unbelievable. Damn..

ProjectVulcan2225d ago

Sinking without trace. As I predicted a couple months ago after playing the beta.

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maybelovehate2226d ago

Just curious but what game has more quests and a bigger map than Sea of Thieves? And as far as feeling empty, do you mean the ocean? Although even then I don't agree. We were constantly calling out sunken ships and barrel stashes during the journey's, not to mention constantly altering the sails and working around storms and trying to spot other pirates and Skulls.

Phoenix762226d ago

@maybelovehate
Just curious but what game has more quests and a bigger map than Sea of Thieves?

Have you played elite dangerous?

AspiringProGenji2226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

Why does the map size matters when the game is so barebones? No man’s sky actually have bigger mals and did that matter at all?

You could say Monster Hunter has way more quests with smalle maps but at least you always have reason to do them and there’s progression unlike this game from what I have heard and seen

maybelovehate2226d ago

@Phoenix76: Elite Dangerous is a good one. Huge game. Good call. Sea of Thieves isn't at that scale but still huge in its own right.

maybelovehate2226d ago

@AspiringProGenji: Come on lol.. I love Monster Hunter World, but let's be serious. Investigations are just another word for repeating the same quest.

Christopher2226d ago

***Come on lol.. I love Monster Hunter World, but let's be serious. Investigations are just another word for repeating the same quest.***

And fetching one thing or another to take back to the base isn't?

I get you like the game, but I think you're ignoring design issues just because if it. I love me some Far Cry, getting 5 day one, but I'm not ignorant of its design flaws. I still enjoy the game.

maybelovehate2226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

@Christopher: The biggest difference is that there are unique puzzles tied to almost every treasure quest. And as you get higher in rank the more in depth the puzzles get. These aren't all just simple fetch quests. You should try the game, it isn't what you seem to think it is.

Aura75412226d ago

The quantity of quests and map size are not indicative of the game's quality. What matters more is the variety of quests and density of activity in the map. You should watch Jim Sterling's video on the Yakuza series. The map in those games are small, but it doesn't matter because the amount of activity is dense and the quests can range from serious to extremely goofy.

maybelovehate2226d ago

@Aura7541: good point. Not only does Sea of Thieves have tons of quests but the puzzles keep them unique and interesting.

Christopher2226d ago

***The biggest difference is that there are unique puzzles tied to almost every treasure quest. ***

They're not unique. They are mostly solved using the same methods and they repeat.

I have played the game. I understand it's not for me, I understand people who like things like Rust will like this, I also understand it's got design issues that will turn people off quickly.

maybelovehate2226d ago

@Christopher: "They are mostly solved using the same methods" So you mean it is like very game ever made? They are unique as you progress. Or least least so far they are.

Christopher2226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

***"They are mostly solved using the same methods" So you mean it is like very game ever made? They are unique as you progress. Or least least so far they are.***

Yeah, for many games that's the majority of quest content when it's online or even as side quests in single player games (AC Origins had this). If you want tailored, unique content then you need a game with specifically designed content throughout. But oftentimes those games have more than a few types of quest types and a much wider variety of enemies and scenarios (like Far Cry, but even that have series gets lambasted for repetitiveness and it has a lot more different types of content than SoT).

Please look up the word unique.

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IamTylerDurden12226d ago

Who cares how big the map is when it's empty? Who cares how many quests there are when they are all fetch quests?

darthv722226d ago

It really is amazing that those who call the game empty dont seem to realize that is what the 7 seas is like when you really sail them. Sailing the ocean blue isnt like riding down the hood in GTAV.

The real oceans (that the devs used as a basis) are empty and very large and open. If you want to see more pirates then it needs more players.

sprinterboy2226d ago

Assassins creed Black flag is a better sea pirate game with quest

morganfell2226d ago

"It really is amazing that those who call the game empty dont seem to realize that is what the 7 seas is like when you really sail them."

Does this include the realistic time it takes to sail them under wind power? No? Why not? What about your health suffering? Scurvy? The rickets?

Getting shot one time in a war and dying forever is real but you do not see that as the norm in most FPS titles because most developers know that realism in certain areas is boring, or frustrating, or simply lacks entertainment value. I do not think Sea of Thieves is a game you should attempt to defend by throwing down the realism gauntlet in one area when other parts lack that same realism. Developers do not always nail when to temper realism.

This doesn't mean you do not like the game. Only you can decide that fact. Conversely you do not get to decide for other people if the game is over stuffed with features or severely lacking.

Not everyone want to just sail and stare at the water. I remember being over at Subsim.com on Neal's site and one of the regular board members decided to play Silent Hunter 5 with full realism. No time compression, no shortcuts. All real time. He was posting a log for us. By day 3 or 4 his entries became non-sensical as he started to drift from lack of sleep and deprivation delirium. He didn't make it too far. Not fun.

Dark_Knightmare22226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

Bro you've been defending this game hard give it up the game has a lack of content there's no denying that. You wanted games named that had a bigger map and more quests than sot well lets see witcher 3 and elder scrolls online are just two off the top of my head and there's plenty more out there.

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Kyizen2226d ago

The issue is content. If you get a quest to kill 2 skeletons the next quest shouldnt be go kill 4 skeletons...

Helios862225d ago

Right investigations are repeat quests, and picking up a chest and giving it to some soulless NPC is not repetition?

Atleast in Monster Hunter the actual hunt has some substance. Honestly though if you enjoy playing the UPS simulator go ahead, just don't pretend like Monster Hunter is anywhere near as shallow. Hell Black Flag had more content than Sea of Thieves.

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Relientk772226d ago

Rare worked on this game for so long

Like what happened...

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_-EDMIX-_2226d ago

Exactly I'm not sure exactly what was going on after this is just sad if this is their best work this team is just pretty much dead.

princejb1342226d ago

is rare dude. When was the last time rare actually did a good game? conkers bad fur day , kameo, banjo kazzoie n64

firelogic2226d ago

That's why it's on Game Pass and not being sold for $70. They knew they couldn't sell it on its own.

UnHoly_One2226d ago

They sold it to me, and I'm happy with my purchase.

YOUDIEMOFO2226d ago

Not at all the start of/for this game I was looking for....! DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!

Sayai jin2226d ago

I got it on game pass...need to give it a go.

Why is this labeled as news and not opinion...hmmm. Could be true, but it's still opinion.

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trooper_2226d ago

Rare is a shell of its former glory.

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Cyborgg2226d ago

They were sitting on their a$$ getting free money

warriorcase2226d ago

same. I was a tester since early alpha and was initially worried about the amount of content but brushed it off as "it's just an alpha, more content will come in time I guess". Then came the beta's, then the final test week and then comes launch day and was shocked to see how little more had been added.
The graphics are great and sailing very fun but the hand to hand combat is so lackluster consisting of a 3 swing combo and that's it. The progression system, which consists of leveling up your traders to unlock cosmetic only items and the next rank of missions of which are just 3 types of fetch quests. You can sail out onto the high seas to kill some skeletons to bring back a skull to port, or fetch a pig to deliver to a port, or find a treasure chest and bring it back to port, that's the options you have and the rank ups just make amount of fetch or rarity of the fetch rarer which in turn give more gold for more cosmetic items.

The game has incredible potential for the future in what can be added but at the moment is no where near the full asking price. As it stands the game can be a lot of fun but is ultimately in its current state as vast as an ocean but as shallow as a puddle.

Wolfyseyes2225d ago

They were thinking "Freeform consequences-free PvP will replace actually creating content. Good enough. Ship it."

mcstorm2225d ago

Soo what people sound like is I've not played the game but the reviews and videos I've seen means the game is pants. Come on people play it your selfs to see what it's like rather than read about it.

subtenko2225d ago

Thats what I thought from only a few minutes of the beta gameplay on youtube. I was thinkig its gonna be bear bones isnt it?

Sea of Thieves is bare bones.

Skull and Bones... Beats... Bare Bones!! o.o

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Brash2226d ago

"It’s The Division where the entire map is the Dark Zone, and it makes it incredibly hard for players to enjoy what little PvE content there is in peace."

Just wow. I don't need that in my life.

maybelovehate2226d ago

This just isn't the case though. Sea of Thieves map is huge. When you come across other players there is usually 1 of 2 mindsets.. We have treasure, let's lose them or be sneaky so they don't see us in the first place by spotting them first.. Or we don't have much treasure, let's hunt them and see what they have. The thing is though, if the other pirates are on their toes and spot us first, they will definitely get away if they really want to. And at least get their good treasure offloaded. The only time you will be in real trouble is if your team failed to keep a good lookout.

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OffRoadKing2226d ago

Nah, the dark zone was just a place for griefing and a lot of people didn't care for it.

letsa_go2226d ago

1 Upvote, 39 downvotes. Looks like you got an unpopular opinion there, buddy!

zb1ftw7772225d ago

One of the reasons I dislike most sandbox games is big maps... With no content in them.

And by content I mean story and meaning. Not grind and fetch and repeat quests.

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OffRoadKing2226d ago

Funny you mention that, when I heard about the whole thieving from other players thing I immediately thought of the Dark Zone in The Division and how much that feature was detested.

maybelovehate2226d ago

The Dark Zone wasnt' detested. It was just all the bugs and exploits people used in the Dark Zone. It was an amazing concept ruined by rampant cheaters.

Avengerz432226d ago

Lol I made the exact comparison yesterday to the DZ in division when that game released. That game was cancer worst $100 I ever spent on a game and it taught me the lesson to never buy a season pass ever again.

warriorcase2226d ago

I can see this argument. I would argue the dark zone actually had more to offer with rare loot drops to find, but I see the comparison. For example, last night Me and my friend went past some friendly players then decided to chase them down and sink them purely because as it is now that is the best thing to do in the game for the most enjoyment with nothing better else to do.

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chrisx2226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

I'm glad this has been clearly stated...a friend of mine told me the exact same thing and I confirmed myself. the game rly feels bland.

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Could Helldivers 2 Be PlayStation’s Sea Of Thieves?

Opinion: Why Helldivers 2 and Sea of Thieves, despite their obvious differences, are very much the same for PlayStation and Xbox

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Magatsuhi4d ago

Tired of these MS fluff pieces. Sot does not come close to what hd2 does.

danno_omen4d ago

You should probably read the article then, I wasn’t comparing the actual games

Cacabunga4d ago

How can it be PS sea of thieves when SOT is on PS5? Were you just in a hurry to write something??

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MrNinosan4d ago

Make a less click baiting headline next time, and people might read bwfore judging.

z2g4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

people don't understand nuance or abstract thought. they just hear two games and decide they like one better than the other so the one they don't like can't be anything close to the one they like. I get that you are speaking in a larger context, not a direct comparison. it could be a huge community building game that has a long burn that could also extend to other platforms and or be cross platform. it could be like sea of thieves in that regard etc. never mind the knuckle draggers on this site. its impossible to have a reasonable, objective conversation here.

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redknight804d ago

I know the headline is a bit bonkers but it is otherwise a good read apart from that.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

Lol you didn't read it. It's just suggesting that it would be beneficial for gamers if HD2 came to xbox. Like sea of thieves did. Don't get in your feels over it.

Magatsuhi4d ago

Its a click bait article. It benefits only xbox to bring a successful game to their failure of a console.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

Lol you big 😠 😡. Just wait till the showcase!

GamerRN4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Yeah, this site just constantly has so many positive Xbox sm articles, I'm tired of them also... 🙄

z2g4d ago

what a surprise, more basic thinking from basic gamers. the comparison it could be a huge community building game that has a long burn that could also extend to other platforms and or be cross platform. it could be like sea of thieves in that regard etc.... sorry thoughts get more abstract than what your brain can seem to handle

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Well Helldivers 2 might be releasing on Xbox in the near future

https://n4g.com/news/259589...

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Tody_ZA4d ago

I think Helldivers 2 could be PlayStation's Helldivers 2.

Elda4d ago

PS5 gaming console exclusive Helldivers 2 is Helldivers 2 & nothing else.

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Sea of Thieves on PlayStation 5: the next big Xbox multi-platform game tested

Sea of Thieves stared off life as an Xbox exclusive, growing over time into a genuine hit with a large, committed community. Now, in an effort to increase its audience still futher, it's become a key part of Microsoft's multi-platform push.

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Einhander19723d ago

So, no one wants to talk about how the PS5 outperforms the xbox version in multiple ways, huh?

purple1013d ago

Draw distance better / shadows better

Also he calls most ps5 “oddity’s” and uses the term “not sure why this is happening” a lot

Ps5 is just more powerful, those 2teraflop difference and Xbox fanatics saying world most powerful console, is worth zip- zero

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Sea of Thieves Welcomes 40 Million Players

Joe 'Three Sheets' Neate (Executive Producer): "As I’m sure you can imagine, when it comes to Sea of Thieves my days are full of numbers. Development costs, active servers, days until the next update… Sometimes, though, a truly extraordinary number stands out – a number like 40 million, which I’m incredibly pleased to say is the number of pirates who’ve now set sail in Sea of Thieves!"

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darthv727d ago

Garrr... more people to walk the plank and send to Davey Jones locker.

would have been funny to release this on talk like a pirate day.

aaronaton6d ago

I nearly died from cringe reading this...

coolbeans6d ago

Ye wouldn't be any fun on the high seas!

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TrueRican697d ago

I pre-order the premium edition for my PS5 today

Crows907d ago (Edited 7d ago )

40 million have set sail...that's great. How many are sailing now? Monthly active users....when it actually matters. How many people purchased the game is another important number.

Gamingsince19817d ago

You don't get numbers like that from MS mouth pieces, they just like to say stuff like "this game was looked at 129 million time, the biggest amount of people browsing a game of this genre on xbox gamepass ever in the last 3 weeks compared to before gamepass was out (small print only 2 million bothered playing longer than 20 seconds and only 100 people are playing it concurrently)

It's all smoke and mirrors

nibblo7d ago

There are usually around 10,000 concurrent users on Steam not counting Xbox or PS but really it doesn't matter as long as there are enough people on the servers to play which there always were and will be for a long time now with the PS players coming on board. Same goes for how many people bought it and how many are on GP, we aren't the accountants of these console companies so why would we care?

Hofstaderman7d ago

Reporting on MAU stats is very misleading. Other companies publish units sold, MS cannot or will not due to Game Pass. We all know that their prior startegies have not panned out so now they have to actually sell games on other consoles. In any case, SoT is doing impressive preorders on PS5 and will very likely motivate Satya to release more games other than the four indicated games on their competitor's consoles. Take note Phil is radio silent....

Jingsing6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Yeah Microsoft would tell you the start menu has had 1 billions clicks on Windows 11 to let you know it is beating Windows 10 when the reality is something else. 10,000 concurrent steam users is enough for me to extrapolate there aren't millions playing this on console either. Lets not forget the motivation to bring this to PS5 is already an admission of poor player count. I'd prefer it is Microsoft would just say nothing when it comes to numbers as it makes them look stupid while trying to make everyone else look like an idiot.

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Abear217d ago

40 Mil across Stream, Windows 10, and Xbox. Healthy numbers for sure, but when PC is the biggest platform, I expected more. It’ll be interesting to see how it does on PlayStation. Very well could be double that player count in 6 months with PS too. It’s crazy for developers to skip the most popular platform, not sure why they’d want to, but they must have had their rea$ons.

Christopher6d ago

PC is the market with the most competition for these type of games as well, so it's actually easier to break in on consoles where these games aren't as prominent.

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