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Final Fantasy XV or Final Fantasy Versus XIII? What Could've Been.

Jarren: Now it’s been a while since the release of Final Fantasy XV back in 2016. Even at 2018, talk about the game hasn’t exactly died down yet. Whether it’s a new update, the PC Version, The Royal Edition, there’s a lot about Final Fantasy XV that keeps people mentioning its name. What people don’t talk about often, however, is the shadow of XV, Versus XIII, what the game was originally supposed to be.

Playing through Final Fantasy XV gave me this obsession of contemplating heavily what the game could’ve been had it headed down the direction Nomura was originally taking it before Tabata took over and changed the script.

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PhoenixUp2654d ago

No point in comparing vaporware to a finished product

cleft52653d ago (Edited 2653d ago )

True, I will say that nothing in FF15 compares to that original trailer they released for Versus 13. Square Enix got so afraid of the negative backlash for FF13 that they completely changed everything for FF15. Which would not have been so bad if they started fresh, but they didnt and you can tell from the later parts of FF15 that the game suffers greatly because of it.

PhoenixUp2653d ago (Edited 2653d ago )

FFXV from its very conception was going to be the complete opposite of FFXIII, hence why it was called Versus XIII.

The "Versus XIII" name comes into play in juxtaposition to Final Fantasy XIII and its sequels that take place in fantastical worlds that are literally and culturally disconnected (Cocoon and Gran Pulse in Final Fantasy XIII; the different eras and timelines in Final Fantasy XIII-2, as well as the normal world and Valhalla; and Nova Chrysalia and the new world in Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII.). For "Versus XIII" Square wanted the world to be different from the original Final Fantasy XIII by presenting one whole, connected world. This theme has carried over to Final Fantasy XV in the form of a seamless open world.

In further juxtaposition to Final Fantasy XIII and its white overall color scheme, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, and thus Final Fantasy XV, have the theme of black, shown in the cast's clothes, the Kingdom of Lucis, and even the name of the original game engine, "Ebony" (the original name for the engine for Final Fantasy XIII was "White Engine"). Lightning herself heavily contrasts with Noctis in personality, goals and the way they interact with the party.

Not to mention that FFXIII have sisters play a huge focus of the narratives while FFXV heavily focuses on brotherhood.

FFXIII was planned to have some form of turn based combat, albeit heavily action focused, while FFXV since its conception was going to be purely action based.

Harkins17212653d ago

VsXIII was suppose to be a 3 part game as well obviously giving us vast more amounts of lore, story and character building.

PhoenixUp2653d ago

Square Enix never said it was a 3 part game. Where you getting that info from?

_-EDMIX-_2653d ago

exactly.

For all we know, what people didn't like in XV was likely always going to be in Versus. I remember reading that someone didn't like that it was open world and stated Versus could have been better....

Disregards that Versus was also open world..I think they are just making up a game in their minds and just making it sound as if it was going to be PERFECT. The writer of the game even oked the new story and said the original concept is intact, meaning it was likely always going to have a "Meh" story

shinoff21832653d ago

I am curious I thought ff15 was pretty meh

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InKnight7s2653d ago

I know this first line defenders will always argue the CersusXIII isn't finished bla bla bla like if anyone consider XV is finished product. How about let compare what we got,
1.In VsXIII you could play as your friends but the final version this ability was cut off until all DLCs released (bla bla defenders will say, wasn't ready, so the response should never release without the game changer element).

2. We all saw the amazing fights and locations in city and in castle, tower, building or civil bridge in Versus13, while in final version XV we just fight most of the time besides trees, in ruins and weird forts. and just now after 2 years of released date they annoucing Insomnia ruin whatever with Royal Pack DLC.

3. Luna, Cor, Cid and Areana is so shallow character I wanted to care about them but nah Cindy was much more interfered in the game. The all important Luna was just like premium NPC design.

4. The game barely care about any events in movie and anime, we couldn't know about Nyx friend aside from another DLC that isn't part of the main game and poorely made any difference.

5. Weapons were much more better and the sizes and types were fun but that also neglected in FFXV.

6. HUD in FFversusXIII was amazing with live avatar movement, but FFXV's HUD just plain.

7. MAGIC whaaaaaaaat the hell happen to magic!!! some will say it about reality, yeah like finding magic rocks besides small country sides is realistic in anyway. Versus didn't much show that part but there was MP bar which seems so better than the crap we got in XV.

8. Whatever people say about the so called final version XV(which again ironic because that game isn't complete in anyway even with all these updates, events and DLCs), VersusXIII is big part of it and directly impacted XV and you can sense some L'Cie and Fal'Cie factors with the all ring abilities.

I would prefer XV release just 2 months ago it would be much better result the whole game need more polish and editing. I always loved FFXV and its my only platinium game ever but nah Versus seemed so much cooler.

Lionalliance2653d ago

I will go with FFXV, since with Versus XIII they didn't have an idea or finalized story, it was just pure concepts that didn't go anywhere.

TricksterArrow2653d ago (Edited 2653d ago )

Voice of reason. Plus, I'm pretty sure that Square would never decide to trash an epic tale in favor of a meh tale, no matter the changes necessary to fulfill the narrative, only if it was actually... not an epic tale.

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Ever play a game a game only to discover at some point it transforms into a horror game? No? Well Netto's Game Room shares six games that do just that!

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P_Bomb30d ago

Immediately thought of the El Dorado zombie dudes in Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune.

raWfodog30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Not necessarily a ‘horror’ moment, but I remember feeling really tense and anxious when the Flood were first introduced in the original Halo. I never felt more on edge or nervous in that whole game as that moment. I think it was the whole buildup that something terrible was coming but you didn’t know exactly what.

Another non-horror game that had me feeling it was Subnautica. The deep dark depths, and knowing that sea monsters were lurking nearby, had me jumping at every sound.

NettosGameRoom29d ago

That scene where you first see them attack is pretty crazy!

Relientk7729d ago

I remember being scared of the Asylum level in the most recent Thief game from 2014.

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Final Fantasy XV Datamine Reveals Hidden Chapter 14 Scene That Was Cut

A new datamine of game files from Final Fantasy XV has revealed a cut scene from Chapter 14 that didn't make it into the final release.

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gold_drake165d ago

always liked 15, but the development was shch a shitshow. it could have been so much more.

but Tabata did a good job with what he had regardless

DivineHand125164d ago

Ff15 was a missed opportunity from square as they transitioned from turn based to real time.

One of the issues is that it was 30 fps. The combat mechanics required precision dodges to activate Noctis teleport ability and it was difficult to do at 30 fps. I am glad they rectified that in FF16. The story and flow also felt like it went through a chopshop similar to how some live service games end up when they are trying to meet a deadline. Those extra episodes they sold as dlc should have been in the maingame.

FF15 is one of the weaker entries in the series.

Z501163d ago

Dodges don't activate the teleport ability. Teleport was R1 + O. Dodge was just the O button. Explain the Black Hood (the item that automatically Dodges for you)

TheNamelessOne164d ago

Ah yes; FF XV.
The beginning of me coming to the realization the series was no longer for me.

Michiel1989164d ago

16 was a lot better, I think 15 was just a big mess with how development went and all. The music though, one of the best in the series, probably the only reason I finished the game.

Cacabunga163d ago

At least FF15 had RPG elements . 16 was just an action game from beginning to end.

Michiel1989163d ago

I rather have a good action game than a bad rpg with 2 button combat

Cacabunga163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

Then call it something else then FF. I got scammed with FF16. Nothing of what i expected it to be.
Even the action is bad in it, especially after the demo section where absolutely nothing happens until the very end.

FF15 isnt a great game but it has some variety at least.

CrimsonWing69164d ago

That initial trailer with the Leviathan fight was the game I wish we got. The actual retail release was watchdogged to all Hell and while there’s enjoyment to be had in the game, it’s such an incomplete product and so many elements feel so slapped together without any cohesion.

Like, don’t get me wrong, I loved fishing, cooking, and the first third of the game, but I much rather they made a story that didn’t feel barely there and the the last third of the game didn’t feel so rushed and unfinished.

Becuzisaid163d ago

Every time a party member left for a period of time screamed future paid dlc. It was horrible.

Imagine Dagger and Steiner making the party go to sleep in Lindblum in FF9 disc 1 and then taking off to Alexandria by foot themselves, but then never playing their side of the adventure in disc 2 when they smuggle her through the South Gate in pickles, take the cable car and fight the Waltz, head to Treno and start the quest to find Supersoft. They just eventually reunite with the main party in the future without explanation of what went on in their adventure.

Or Sephiroth's backstory in the famous Kalm flashback being added as a dlc pack. Same goes for Vincent, Cid, or Yuffie for that matter.

Oh and anything to do with Jenova, the Ancients, Aerith, her mom and Gast, shoved into a 2 hour CG movie or 5 hour anime ministries that's considered required viewing for anything in the main game to make sense or have characters actually be interesting.

I enjoyed FF15 at the time, and finished it, but it's bright spots are marred by a bad development cycle and a worse marketing scheme.

CrimsonWing69163d ago

What’s sad is when I watched a vid on the entire story (that wasn’t properly told in the actual game)!it was really solid and could’ve been one of the most epic stories in any FF. I think a lot of the compilation and cross-media stuff really f*cked it all up.

gurp164d ago

FFXV was underrated in my opinion
I have played all of the final fantasy games, and I loved this game
turn based to me takes too long, I like active battle
the extra dlc and chapters should have been included in the original release, but it is nice that they fixed the game later

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Here Are The Games Leaving PS Plus Extra & Premium In May 2024

Here are the games that will be leaving the Extra and Premium tiers of the PS Plus subscription service in the month of May, 2024.

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gold_drake416d ago

crazy, glad i own the ones i wanted to revisit and play

ChasterMies416d ago

Absolver Downfall
Abzu
Adrift
Ashen
Elex
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII Remastered
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X | X-2
Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age
Final Fantasy XV Royal Edition
How To Survive 2
I Am Dead
Jotun
Last Stop
Minit
Moster Jam Steel Titans 2
My Friend Pedro
Observation
Sundered Eldritch Edition
The Artful Escape
The Messenger
This Is The Police
This Is The Police 2
World of Final Fantasy

Asterphoenix416d ago

Glad that I absolutely can't stand subscription services.

Petebloodyonion416d ago (Edited 416d ago )

I don't recall Sony forcing you to subscribe like nobody forced you to go to Blockbuster to rent games instead of buying them.

SonyStyled416d ago

Pay-per-view was almost cheaper than the cost of gas and rental fee from Blockbuster. Blockbuster doesn’t exist today. Are you being sarcastic?