Ryzen 3 2200G/ Ryzen 5 2400G review: triple-A gaming without a graphics card?

DF: "Yes, we have got benchmarks, but more importantly we've got *gameplay*. Can a $99 Ryzen APU with Vega 8 graphics run PUBG, GTA5, Destiny 2, Overwatch, Rise of the Tomb Raider, The Witcher 3, Titanfall 2 and Crysis 3? And can it do so with playable frame-rates?"

[zb1ftw777]

So basically you might as well get a ps4pro or xb1x.

Same overall price but with performance that knocks this setup out the ballpark.

[Asuka]

Well I mean yeah. But that's not the point. Point is if you wanted to get into PC gaming this is a good entry point. You could drop in a graphics card down the road (when prices go down ffs).

Otherwise yeah if you wanted a console ps4pro / x would be better bang for your buck.

[frostypants]

Sadly I don't think GPU prices will go down anytime soon. Some crypto projects will likely move to a "proof of stake" model which will eliminate mining, but I'd wager just as many new mineable cryptos will pop up. And it doesn't look like crypto is ever going to go away at this point. The GPU manufacturers need to ramp up production and make special mining-focused cards to take some of the pressure off. I bought a GTX 1060 a few months ago during what I thought was the peak of the insanity, and it is MORE expensive now. This sucks.

[mikeslemonade]

Don’t kid yourself, PS4 and Xbox base models are not AAA anymore.

[DarkHeroZX]

You are forgetting that this is an APU. You can pair it with a lower end GPU and kill consoles.

[frostypants]

APUs typically disable their graphics processing once a dedicated GPU is installed. Is this one different? The article doesn't make any such claim that I can see. Says it's pretty much in line with an i3 when a dedicated GPU is involved. I don't think it works the way you think. If you buy an APU and add a dedicated GPU you're wasting money.

[mastiffchild]

Both models are a good entry point for PC gaming, great for emulation and DO allow a decent upgrade path as well.

APU Rysen do not perform quite as well as the vanilla Rysen CPU chips paired with discrete GPUs but difference is negligible and at 90 quid for 2200 it is a great way in.

AMD have ensured good ESports performance for your money out of the box so, say, Overwatch or CSGO are very playable and even CemU works okay in emulation.

The downsides are few with the risk of motherboards not yet working well being the biggest, and that's already changing over time. These chips are simply a starting point for console gamers, e.g, to enter the PC realm avoiding the need to rush into a godawful GPU market.

I think they are a great entry allowing you to look out for GPU deals when they come along, which they will one day soon enough. Sure, this won't impress I5/I7 owners used to their added 1060 or 1080s but it's not for them. AMD also saw the huge amount of gamers using low end cards and CPU combos and are allowing similar or better levels for newcomers with these APU chips.

What is there to dislike, really? It isn't even about Xbox One X or PS4 Pro performance and simply tempting anyone new into PC gaming.

[zb1ftw777]

Even the bog standard xb1 shits all over low end PC GPU's.

[timotim]

Would love to see this set up in some future Windows tablets and laptops. A 8" tablet with pen support would be perfect imo. Don't know how practical that would be, but id like to see it.

[mastiffchild]

Hadn't considered this market. Yeah, could do well in a cheap ESports laptop type thing. Better with a possible upgrade path but definitely allows cheap, decent gaming on these platforms.