Why Home Should Not Be Shown At Game Shows

Kotaku's Luke Plunkett:

Home should not be shown at trade shows. Absolutely not. Not under any circumstances. Why? Because it is boring. Home is not a game. It's not even a user interface. It's a...thing. Once Sony get around to deciding what that actually is will probably be the time they decide to release it, but until then - and especially in the state it was in for my TGS demonstration - it should be kept as far from prying eyes (and hands) as possible.

[sonarus]

I guess its okay for microsoft to show New Xbox Experience but its not okay for sony to show home:(

[BulletToothtony]

98% of ps3 owners are really looking forward to home and me as a beta tester can tell you that as gamers this is a great app.

It's great to socialize and after hanging out you can easily jump into games.. I don't see why kotaku has a hard time seeing this.

Imo they're just blinded by fanboyism and they really can't see anything good in the ps3.

NXE makes perfect sense to them... but home... hmm they just don't get it.. they really don't deserve a "gaming" website..

[morganfell]

I have had a blast in Home and have met more people through that who I wound up gaming with than through gaming alone and that includes Live.

Sony fans need to start putting serious pressure on Sony to cut Kotaku off from any inside looks, betas, previews or anything that would gain them a single web hit.

[The gaming GOD]

Normally I wouldn't agree with that.

But in this case, it is WELL warranted. With Kotaku, when MS is right, they're RIGHT and when their wrong, it's "but it's ok"

With Sony on the other hand, when they're right, they're wrong. And when they're wrong, they're WROOOOOOOONGGG!

Kotaku's fanboyism is hitting very high levels here. Sony really should start cutting them off like they've started doing to gamespot.

[morganfell]

TgG,

Normally I wouldn't approve my stance there either. But enough is enough. If Kotaku openly acknowledged their position it would be slightly different. Instead they still masquerade as a somewhat neutral site...but they are far from that in reality.

It is absurd and as a paying Sony supporter, buying their products and investing in their vision I dislike seeing a company in which I am investing make poor business decisions. And by poor decisions I mean allowing Kotaku any favors when they have shown themselves to be blatantly anti-Sony.

[Genesis5]

Well I guess it's boring to somebody who hates it. Personally I like it and don't find it boring at all. Nobody is forcing this individual to watch it. If you don't like it leave.

[JokesOnYou]

I actually read the whole article and despite Kotaku's obvious flare for laughs (I love that slapstick humor of theirs, even when they used to bash RROD) but he does make a good point; which is why show off Home at a gaming show when basicly its no more than a "empty virtual sony booth"= he said there were NO service's plazas, NO apartments, *No games available to play* (why not have at least 1 or 2 small arcade games?) and "There was, literally, nothing to do."

hmmm, seems to me he has a legit arguement, but of course most of you just read the title and of course it breaks your heart since you don't like seeing anything you don't agree with about your beloved console. Also I think its likely to assume the reason why he didn't make the same statements about NXE is because micro has given details and showed off the new xbox experience so people/media understand what it is and how its going to work, for the most part its in a finished state other than a few features and small refinements NXE is ready which is why almost every site has details listed about the NXE an what you can expect, it has a released date....so this isn't really a criticism of the quality of Home but a criticism of its current status...if you get my point.

JOY

Edit: yes Gaming God, you're right Iam pro 360.....but I still like to see you make a valid counter arguement to my "points". Also if Iam pro 360, then what does that make all the "we hate Kotaku" comments/members of this site....oh that makes their opinions more accurate, riiiight. I won't apologize for NOT blindly following the sony crowd. lmfao. more JOY

[The gaming GOD]

Of course you'd see his "points" Jokes on You. You're Pro 360 and Anti PS3.

So it's typical you'd see the "points" in his words

Edit- Ok, I'll make this real simple for you Joy, show me one positive thing they've said about the ps3. Then compare that to how much they show the 360 in a positive light. It has nothing to do with "we hate Kotaku". It's about blatant bias.

For your "arguments", I don't see how all that stuff was turned off when most of that stuff is available in the actual beta and has been for awhile. No other website spoke of things being just "shut off" like they are.

Besides, you don't have to "apologize" for not "blindly" following the Sony crowd as you say. After all you take great pride if blindly following MS.

And before we go somewhere beyond, I have the PS3 360 and Wii. Do you?

[morganfell]

Same here tgG, I have all three. Of course this weekend I get shafted when my 4th 360 RROD'ed on me. It's running again but now the USB ports won't charge the controllers or the headset. Great. A HALO 360 dying.

[thewhoopimen]

Wow...kotaku doesn't let up on the bullsh1t they keep trying spewing out of their mouths. It's getting to the point where it's openly a hatefest. I thought fanbois were bad. A professional publication getting into the mess? dirty.

[BrunoM]

these site is ... just plain stupid ...

why do they always do these with playstation things .. ??

but any who i like HOME and in the end thats what matters what i (and other gamers) think about it and not stupid websites.!

[Snukadaman_]

Lets be honest here...kotaku skews both sides of this console war...its hilarious when i see cry babies saying kotaku is biased..thats your opinion..but if they were so biased I think we would not be hearing stories about rrod or even other stories like this...

http://kotaku.com/gaming/mi...

sony does have history with kotaku anyways..maybe thats the cause of this "bias" you crybabies talk about.

[Jake the Muss]

Addressing your points then, JOY.

Yes, it does sound like there was nothing to do, I can certainly see that and won't question it. Except... watching a trailer of a upcoming game at TGS entails nothing to do as well. Showing off White Knight Chronicles in unplayable form at TGS means what then - should we not showcase any game because there was nothing for the observer to do? Kotaku's logic is being applied selectively in this circumstance.

Of course, Home was playable and trailers aren't - but both clearly indicate development status and the purpose of showing titles before final release is to educate the public of existence/features and gain feedback, and I challenge you to prove otherwise. As such, I argue simply stating that "Home Should Not Be Shown At Game Shows" is in no way educational or helpful feedback to the development of the title, only helpful in creating sensational titles to gain hits.

I am not interested in bringing NXE into a Playstation discussion. More, I am interested in Luke's closing comment: "...just wasted 15 minutes wandering around an empty virtual PS3 booth when they could have been wandering around the real PS3 booth doing stuff..."

I was under the impression that Home was a 'social network' type of development, not created for the sole purpose of showing virtual game show expos. Kotaku misses the point of Home, which they do actually admit to, but go onto conclude with the above quote. This makes little sense - they are selectively attacking Home for something they know it isn't. And what it isn't, is a substitute for attendees to TGS to do the very things they are meant to be doing. The purpose of showing Home at TGS was showing *one* feature of what Home *could* do - to me, this is not enough justification for the proclamation of "Well then, it shouldn't be shown at all".

However, each to their own opinion; and the "Sony Crowd" are as much entitled to their opinion as you are to yours JOY, particularly in a PS3 article.

[Bangladesh]

Home is creepy. The best way to make sure that you don't get laid, is to tell a non-gamer what Home is.

[solidjun5]

...you show an article that's 3 years old and it proves what again? yea...right.

JOY...as usual, your bias shows straight your fanboy teeth...or fingers. Regardless, you're a BOT! Jake the Buss addressed your "arguments".

[Tarasque]

Well even if you fanboys want to admit it, home is boring there is nothing to do. If i want to stand around talking to friends i will do it in the real world. If i want to go out of my way to meet new people i will do it in the real world.

[JokesOnYou]

"Addressing your points then, JOY."

"Yes, it does sound like there was nothing to do, I can certainly see that and won't question it. Except... watching a trailer of a upcoming game at TGS entails nothing to do as well. Showing off White Knight Chronicles in unplayable form at TGS means what then - should we not showcase any game because there was nothing for the observer to do? Kotaku's logic is being applied selectively in this circumstance." -Jake the Muss

-Well you only further prove my point..."watching a trailer of a upcoming game" or "Showing off White Knight Chronicles in unplayable form at TGS" IS in fact something to do or in other words you are observing the *GAME in an *acceptable status* because you get to see the gameplay or a least a trailer that gives you a taste of what the game will be like, thats pretty standard for games. In the case of Home which is suppose to be a social entertainment hub/IU and more it seems all they did was show off a virtual sony booth, which even you admit "Yes, it does sound like there was nothing to do" so I agree with Kotaku that if you're going to promote HOME as this big social community with all sorts of features, apartments, games, etc etc then why would you show something thats basicly empty, again why not show off at least a small virtual sony booth with a limited amount of interactivity (games/people/a soda machine or something)...it just screams either "we're not close to being ready" or "we're not sure what to show off at this point", which can give the impression they have lack of direction when it comes to Home, now maybe they do know exactly what they want to do with Home but in either case I think it would be far better to wait until they have "something to do" before they show it off.

JOY

[callahan09]

I agree with you BulletToothTony. I'm in the Home beta, and until I got into the Beta I'd never made any "friends" on my PS3. I mean, I had played Warhawk online and added some good players to my friends list and all, but I hadn't actually struck up conversation and become friendly with anyone. The very first time I launched Home I met a nice dude and we played a game of pool & a game of chess while chatting a bit, then launched into a game of Hot Shots Golf. It was a pleasant experience. I just wish Home loaded a bit faster, and they need to fix some game launching glitches, and I wish there was a lot (A LOT) more content.

[The Makr]

Home - Boredome Evolved.

Home - It pwns. Just ask Dorothy.

Home - Horny Old Men Enjoy!

Home - It's what's for Dinner!

Home - It's not Second Life! Really!

Home - Better than NXE! Really!

Home - More fun than Dental work!

Home - Out early next century!

Home - If you try hard enough, you will like it!

Home - Join our society of pubescent societal castoffs!

The above are just suggestions and the final version may or may not resemble the above. ;-)

[Jake the Muss]

Accepting that there appeared to be little to do in Home at TGS does not further reinforce your points, JOY, only shows that I am not a blind fanboy, unlike many on N4G. Observing a trailer does not indicate the game is in 'acceptable status' - often the opposite, developers will showcase the title when it is not ready to be playable... except Home isn't a game, which would make the showing of a trailer, a little confusing.

My point was that Kotaku's proclamation: "Home should not be shown at trade shows. Absolutely not. Not under any circumstances" was not warranted in this case, and I think I justified myself sufficiently. If Kotaku does not know what the point of Home is, then they are not justified to selectively attack it for something they know it isn't - it was displayed to showcase *one* feature that Home *could* potentially do. This does not justify the banning of Home from every game show, which is what Kotaku's very first line implied. You did not address my point of precisely why titles are shown before release, in which Kotaku brought no helpful feedback other than hits to their site.

You do have a potential point of: "we're not sure what to show off at this point", and I agree perhaps this was the case. But again, this does NOT warrant banning Home from every game show from now on - remember, the primary 'social aspect' of Home has been on display for a year now in the form of the Beta. I think that not showing Home at all at TGS would have raised further negative press than the current situation, and I think most people would be hard pressed to disagree.

However, you have your justifications and I have mine, so perhaps it is best that we just agree to disagree.

[pixelsword]

Solution: never, ever go to their site.

[Stubacca]

..but as a gamer, I like to hear about the huge advances and capabilities for my console. Doesn't everyone?

[morganfell]

Kotaku bashing Sony? Gasp? Surprise? So did they publish an article stating that the new 360 interface shouldn't be shown at game shows? After all the Home interface has an actual game employment - meeting rooms that will be used for pre-game strategies. I am running the beta and that isn't there yet but it is coming.

So how is something that has actual game implementation not worthy of being shown? When it is from Sony and the trash opinion comes from Kotaku. Go ahead you piece of crap Crecente. You and your buddy Brian Asscrack keep digging that grave. Kotaku is dropping from relativity like a dead duck.

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Look at bloodysinner/bloodmask/sinned approving this article!

Shame on you bloodmask for supporting biased journalism!

[eric100]

seriously that website should be perma banned at n4g

[tocrazed4you]

microsoft to demonstrate the new xbox dashboard? that is an interface and a lot more boring than home

[Crazywhitie]

are you kidding me.. are you even in the Home Beta.. There nothing to do.. I think i messed around in home for about 1hr total and that counting time to Download everything... There is nothing that makes me go Wow this home is Something.. I'll stick to the old Dashboard if this is what they are trying to do.. It take forever to run around... This I don't know because the only game room I could find was uncharted but Do you have to go to game rooms to join partys to play games?? As of Right now Home is a Big Waste of Time.. not sure anybody know the plans of it which is scary... NXE we've seen alot of it... not to say it will be better but at launch it will Own Home..

[thewhoopimen]

wow, where do you find all that sh1t to pull out of our ass? You think you have to run around rooms just to get from one side to the other? In that regard, home is exactly like the new xbox dash. You pull up a shortcut menu... Are you asking us how to invite friends? Do you literally think you have to go into a room to get a game invite? You're a piece of work. seriously.

[ThanatosDMC]

It's coming from someone who didnt get the beta.

[The gaming GOD]

They had no gripes about MS and their NXE with is pretty much a dolled up xbox live. Yet HOME which is an entirely new social interface they talk crap about.

I wonder, just how much is microsoft paying them

[ThanatosDMC]

Well, if they paid $50M for a useless super late DLC (GTA4)... then who knows how much they pay kotaku.

[Tarasque]

There is nothing wrong with something entirely new, but when it sux you have a problem understand.

[pwnsause]

Kotaku. nuff said. You guys know after Kotaku Dug up Sony's Secret about the Unveiling of Home Back in GDC 07, they almost got Banned from going to Sony Playstation shows for life. Thats why they are like this to this day against sony.

[The gaming GOD]

But come on man, when does it end?

They tried to pass off crappy socom confrontation pics as new ones. Then when someone posted the REAL pics, they said "oh sony gave us bad pics". Which is total bs. Why would THEY be the ONLY ones with bad pics when EVERY OTHER website had the proper ones?

They tried to nitpick at MGS4 just because it wasn't on the 360.

They tried to say Kojima was a whiner for being critical of American medias way of twisting things (which is true)

Now this favoritism of NXE agaisnt HOME.

Sony should keep these guys away from EVERYTHING Sony related. Let every other site and their employees have sneak peeks and leave Kotaku out in the cold

I mean damn man, what did Sony do for Kotaku to hate them so much?

[pwnsause]

"But come on man, when does it end?"

By Making Kotaku Explode by spamming the hell out of them, thats how. thats how Anon does it, and we should too.

[avacadosnorkel]

Stop the hate child.

If I didn't know better I would have to guess Kotaku was possessed by the devil with all the evil words they write all the time.

[Imallvol7]

The evidence is starting to be a little overwhelming on who they seem to favor.

But may be they just truly do hate it . . . all . . .

Wouldn't you be mad anyway if Sony didn't give you LBP codes to drive site traffic??? Lol.

[CEO of Troll Corp]

Thank infinite!

[Aclay]

Kotaku's favoritism to the Xbox 360 and Microsoft is just so obvious. Kotaku might as well become a dedicated Xbox fan site if they aren't going to respect the PS3 and what Sony is doing.

If Kotaku thinks that HOME shouldn't be shown at game shows because "they" think it's boring, they need to keep those comments to themselves because it's nothing constructive.

A new user interface like the "New Xbox Experience" is one thing (and I don't really see why it's getting so much hype), but HOME is doing SO much more and is bringing more to the table.

Microsoft's PR guys and Microsoft supporters run their mouths too damn much and Kotaku is a prime example.

[Crazywhitie]

you said "HOME is doing SO much more and is bringing more to the table."
***Explain Please***

[The_Firestarter]

Are you serious!? Where have you been? Under a rock?

Stop playing dumb; there's no need for an explanation.

[Crazywhitie Part 2]

Someone that is in the Beta because these guy must not be...
***Please Explain***

I want to know What Home is doing More of?? It's a Simple Question.. I'm not Downing Home but if you are in the Beta (Like I Am) and know how long they have been working on this.. then you should be Worried

[The_Firestarter]

Wtf? You have two accounts? lmao

I'm sorry, but that's pretty lame.

[Crazywhitie Part 2]

Well all the fanboy took my bubbles because i only speak the truth...I see you haven't explain it?? you defend it but can't explain it?? must be a fanboy

[Monkey521]

Sony is constantly revising everything about home to make it better. Honestly, it wasn't entertaining in the beginning but now lets just say, It's truly a living, breathing "city". There is so much to explore in Home, that it could take you a couple hours. But mainly, it's a great way to meet up with friends, then launch into games. It makes it easier than searching through servers. I can't really go into detail for you, sorry. If you want proof I'm in, friend me @ Monkey521 on the PSN.

[The_Firestarter]

Right, I'm the fanboy. Keep telling yourself that. Whatever it takes so you can sleep well tonight. Honestly, I love how you jump to such conclusions about who I am when you don't even know me.

HOME is a virtual world to socialize and meet new people. That's just the gist of it, because I'm too lazy right now to cater for you. Good-bye.

[Crazywhitie Part 2]

i'll friend you tonight show me tomorrow please... I've been to the theater, my 2 houses, CLub, Bowling Alley, Mall with 3 stores, Uncharted Game Room... I'm I missing anything??

Guys I want to home to work don't get me wrong, but right now there not much to be seen.... NXE will come out the same day has Home so they both say Nov. 19... I'll have first hand of both I just hope they add alot to home... And 1 Download PLEASE!!!!

[butterfinger]

"you said "HOME is doing SO much more and is bringing more to the table."
***Explain Please*** "

You asked people that are in the beta to tell you how it is better than NXE basically, but you didn't ask people that have seen and tested both. Have you been in both? Do you have Home and NXE? It seems that you don't have any information whatsoever about NXE, but you continue to point the fb finger at everyone and attempt to assert yourself as being above them all by saying that you are in the Home beta. If you want explanation, you can look up many posts from people that are in the Home beta and love it. If you look above you can read a couple already. You constantly hate on everything Sony (MGS4, Home, etc.), then you think you're not a fb because you own more than one console. I truly love both of my consoles equally, and you won't find me constantly attacking one or the other.

[Crazywhitie Part 2]

This is AclayPS3 Quote : "HOME is doing SO much more and is bringing more to the table"

I simply ask Explain it to me.... Because I want to know... Has anybody use NXE?? not to many.. But I have been in Home beta.. They've said Home's been in the Making since 2005... does that beta look like 3 years to you... I don't hate everything sony's just the delays when they know there not ready,.. MGS4 to me was slow and boring, How i'm a wrong it's call an Opinion... I Love LBP but it's not a 10 Close ... I Don't think I have ever stated that the hated the PS3, Right Now Home sucks... From What I seen of NXE it's got a lot more to it... Sony said Home wasn't a Social Community, it was a Gaming one... From What I see it's far from that... You can pull the FB's out because they attack your person not you comment.. thats why I Pointed the Finger and I was right...

[butterfinger]

No, you were not right. You just said that NXE seems to have a lot more to offer, but obviously we don't give a sh!t about your opinion because you don't have it, right? I mean, that is the logic you use with anyone talking about the Home beta that isn't in it. You constantly bash the PS3, and a quick look at your comment history can't hide it.

[Surfman]

Ahhh shut up Kotaku, everybody knows that they are bias and they sux. So now shut up, change your name for Xboxaku or whatever and stop trying to find issues and flaws in Sony's games or projects, because it's not working.

[LightningPS3PS3]

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[Zerodin]

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[LITTLE BIG PLANET IN]

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[iceice123]

the fuuck up.

[ICUP]

F!CK YOU kotaku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zerodin]

Enjoy Little Big Notaperfectten!

[pwnsause]

lol Zerodin has to make names in order to make a comeback!!!!! you cant kill the epicness that is little big planet you rat.

[Marceles]

lol...Home is the reason why Kotaku started hating Sony in the first place

http://www.gamepolitics.com...

[morganfell]

Kotaku forgot who needs who. Sony doesn't need them, there are tons of sites. But there are only 3 hardware manufacturers. That is one of many times where Crecente was an idiot. Sony had a lot of money invested and asked kindly - at first. For the sake of a rumor, true or not, Kotaku shot themselves in the foot. What a bunch of morons.

Personally I think Sony needs to continue and black list them.

[FantasyStar]

cause then the sissy journalist will defend Kotaku with "free speech!" and "unfair!" and whatever sissy talk they want. If I knew Kotaku would've turned into a cesspool of so-called professionalism, I would've rooted for Sony's blackballin'

[morganfell]

This article failed approval. How did it get published all of the sudden? It's trash, not journalism.

[bouncybullet]

Why would this article fail approval?

Because N4G is overrun by PS3 loyalists?

Home is a virtual chatroom and thats all it is.

I would much rather Hang out with my friends IN THE GAME
than in a lame-ass room based on the game.

It doesn't even sound fun.

[morganfell]

And you are claiming to be in the beta?

[Crazywhitie Part 2]

bouncybullet - Is right 100%.. I am in the beta

Hey anyone want to go tell our Avatars to dance my the Big Speaker that a club.. it will be AWESOME!!!!!!!

[bouncybullet]

Did I claim to be in the Beta, Herbert?

No, but I claim to not have any interest in a boring virtual lobby made solely to distract you from actually playing any real games.

Which is a good tactic I must admit.

Have fun standing in a virtual kitchen.

I'll be playing an actual videogame for which I bought the console for.

[morganfell]

No experience = no valid opinion. Playing at your grade school friend's house doesn't count either. Run home to mom now. Here's my ignore button for you to contemplate.

[bouncybullet]

Your Ignorance = My smile.

Hypocrite,
Experience equals a valid opinion.
Read the article again.
No matter who says its crap you're delusion will automatically make it an "invalid opinion."

[enjoi187]

so he bashes the ps3.....

just like this site bashes the 360...gigs up its quite obvious

[poopsack]

yes, but whoch is the one run by "unbiased professional journalists"

[butterfinger]

Obviously you weren't visiting N4G about a year ago. Things were quite different back then. Unfortunately for people like you, the PS3 didn't fail as hard as previously hoped.

[Bathyj]

I guess if they didnt show it, kotaku would be the first to ask,

why not?
where is it?
does it have bugs?
is it delayed?
is it cancelled?
how did Sony stuff this up?
why buy their stuff?
why are they even allow to exist?
lets boycott them,
lets trash their building,
lets track down individual employees and burn their houses,
is the PS3 dead?
will PS4 even happen?
why should we care?
is Sony nearly dead?
can we help them die?
is M$ the new Sony?
will M$ will next gen with only 2 competitors?
why do I even hate Sony so much, I cant remember anymore. Oh well there must be a good reason, afterall I wouldn't just rant for nothing would I?

[Zerodin]

It's not getting all perfect 10s, it has to get ALL perfect tens to be as good as you say!

[pwnsause]

well its getting better ratings than all of you xbox 360 exclusives HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAH

[fufotrufo]

1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 ,6 ,7 ,8 ,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18, 19,20,21,22,23,23,24,25,26,27.. .2,,, ughhhhh losttt the count!!!!

[Zerodin]

Home is the reason Bob Barker quit, he hated Home that much!

[thewho]

All Kotaku every do is flame Sony on everything.. they lost their credibility years ago and are only staying afloat by keeping the 360 fanboys interested.

[Raoh]

i agree with morganfell

but sony likes the punishment, its like a battered wife that just keeps taking the verbal abuse.

[HairyBrownSack]

"Home is not a game. It's not even a user interface. It's a...thing. Once Sony get around to deciding what that actually is will probably be the time they decide to release it"

ROFLMFAO! haHAHAHahahaHAHAHahahahA POOOOOOOOR DROIDS! Time to face the music.

SONY SUCKS.

PS3 SUCKS.

Play House SUCKS.

SMELLY DOG SH1T SUCKS.

you SUCK.

get it yet?

LMAO LOLOLOL

[skagrerrrr]

junk those consoles and get a DS lite

[bouncybullet]

Home is a bad idea.

It takes you farther away from actually playing the games you own.

Instead of:
turning on my PS3, starting my game, then inviting friends..

I'll have to:
turn on PS3, Sign in to Home, run around looking for my friends, then run over to the game's room??, then finally start the game.

Does that sound fun?

[butterfinger]

you just misinformed everyone that believed the jibberish you wrote. You do not have to use Home to launch games, and you do not need home to play games with your friends. Home is not a bad idea, it is an online social community for gamers just like Facebook, Myspace, or Second Life. You don't have to use it if you don't want to, and it is free. Apparently you don't know sh!t about Home.

[enjoi187]

agree...waste of time like installing games..

[bouncybullet]

If installing games means better performance, I'm all for it.

But there is a point where it become retarded.

MGS4 is a NIGHTMARE.

I has to install every chapter.(every level.)
And if you want to go back to the previous level it has to load/install it again!

1 of the reasons why I won't replay it ever again.

[Zerodin]

Possible, but I doubt it will sell as well, what with the PS3 having a pathetically small user base. How does it feel to have your system beaten by an underpowered machine that has a lot of shovelware titles?

[butterfinger]

really isn't as bad as you make it sound. I love mine:)

[pwnsause]

Welcome to America, Were Bias became a everyday routine when you vote, when you hated a particular race, and of course what companies should be hated for life.

[Close_Second]

...because its nothing but a 3D GUI replacement for a menu system. How many games are sold by the menu system and not the gameplay?

Home will find a loyal fan base and there will be those who won't care for it at all. I'm sitting on the fence until I've given it a go however, I have to find a real use for it, it has to provide a real benefit for me to want to keep going back.

My final comment, no matter how pretty an O/S its still just a means of getting from A to B which is where the real work/fun is done/had.

[pwnsause]

it is not a 3D GUI replacement, it does not replace your XMB in a way, shape or form.

[Close_Second]

...it replaced the XMB in any way shape or form. I said it replaces a menu system. Home does not do anything that a menu system could not do other than let you dress up the way the menu system might look. But then again, thats what themes do.

[JD_Shadow]

..you're basically wanting for Home to be NXE instead?

[bloodmasksucks]

??????

[dj_funky]

kotaku = xbot fanboys

if u go on their site.. theres like.. what? 1 or 2 articles about the ps3 per page while everything else is just about 360 and pc? LAME.

[psycho360]

I'd say the opp about this site. But clearly your comment belongs in the open zone. Goodbye

On Topic: Valid points. Right now in its beta, borefest stage without games or anything valuable there, it should not be shown there. BTW what happened to 11 unannounced, exclusive games by sony?

Edit: Your use of xbox in gamerzone is the reason i said that your comment belongs in open zone.

Regarding your list of 11 games, the so called unannouced I had not known about demon souls, spelunker and flowers. The three games like dynasty 5, winning eleven might not be exclusives. So what do you have there?

[dj_funky]

sorry if i've offended you in anyway shape or form. i guess you like that site. just guessing by your username.

anyway.. this might help your question about the unannounced exclusive games.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/20...

[Kenny G]

can they hide their bias any longer. wow this is so obvious. just stick to giving news not opinion

[Zerodin]

A gaming site that actually goes to these events, or a bunch of people with PS3 game based avatars....hmmmmmm. Who's opinion would be the more valid of the two...

[The_Kills]

It will never come out, and by the time it does, not all the hype in the world would make ppl care

[Kush_Reaper]

F&ck kotaku.

[ofx360]

and i can say i agree. Home is boring sht. why should sony show it off. While nxe is a user-interface, home is a... "social networking thing"(think trade show for myspace*shudders*). It doesnt actually serve a purpose other than to meet people i havent met before. And i ask why, why would i want to do that when i have friends.
Also, its been said that some of the features in Home would also be in the xmb; i hop i game invites make the cut. I really dont want to load up a whole different program just to hope in to a party with friends.

p.s. - i am a proud ps3 owner(owner of 0 360's atm), just wanted to put that out there before i was pinned as a ~FANBOY~

[DeZimatoR]

Enough said I think.

-_-'

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Oh snap! the droids are in a panic now.

[Ngai]

This guy is judging Home on one space! Haha what a loser.
Home is the best thing that happened for PS3, ive been testing it for quite some time now. People will see and enjoy it when it's released. You can have my word :)

[Tarasque]

Well you word is full of crap, cause i do not like it so your word is worthless. And everyone i have showed it too feels the same way. I have went through everything in home and people are like well show me what it's about. And i just giggle and say this is it. You mean i get to stand around a musicbox and make my character do pre made dances OMG!!! that is so awesome *rolls eyes*. All right i get to watch the exact same trailer of star wars in the central plaza that haven't changed in over 2 months OMG!!! that is awesome *rolls eyes*. All right i get to go into the theater and watch the same pain trailer OMG!!!that is awesome *rolls eyes*. Tell me why it is so great, if you use the point talking with friends i will just chalk a win for me and no reply.

[Ngai]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I guess the experience differs from person.

[Ngai]

Kotaku LOL. It's even in the name, Fanboy! Guess it's obvious which side :)

[Tarasque]

Boohoo, boohoo give me a break children, why do you fanboy's care what anyone thinks. Thats the whole problem to this site. No more game discussion it's all about sticking for x console and it completely stupid. Of course majority is sony fanboys.

[Voulnet]

You fools are missing the point.
If Sony wanted to give a good impression about Home, then they shouldn't have shown it the way they did in TGS. What they displayed was a dead shell of what Home should be, and that gives a bad impression.

You fanboys should stop kneeling for Sony for a second and see what this guy is actually talking about. If you want to advertise, do it in a way that doesn't make your product boring.

[DJ]

Obviously not a relevant article considering how much demand there is from the PS3 community for this Online Platform to be released.

[GarandShooter]

The words 'Tech Demo' come to mind.

[GWAVE]

I have little interest in Home, but then again, I was never one for social networking sites (Myspace, Facebook) or MMOs. It's just not my thing.

However, why is Sony bashed for showing off Home whereas these same gaming journalists gobble up any news about New Xbox Experience and the Avatar system? They might as well TRY to mask their obvious bias.

(and it's sad that I need to mention this, because otherwise my comment will be regarded as "anti-Sony hate", but I own a PS3 and I love it. I do not own a 360).

[PS3thedestroyer]

So they are i suppose they think games like Halo 3 and Too Human are perfect games huh? Yet games like Killzone 2 will almost certainly be better, games like LBP MGS4 are better!

[JD_Shadow]

1. I don't really want to have two articles from the same place on my Media Watch...this just seems too good to pass up, though. We'll see. There was one other I wanted to check out to see if that had something in it that could be brought to the forefront.
2. HOME won't be for everyone, just as the XBE or Miis won't be for everyone. But it's not a required service. You don't even have to TOUCH the damn thing. It's an additional service for you to use (a damn good looking one at that). If you don't want to use it, you don't have to. But I'm sure you will be in the VERY slim minority of PS3 owners, and even then, curiosity will somewhere win out and you'll be going in there for the hell of it.
3. Okay, for anyone who is a 360 fanboy who is on this story posting comments right now, I don't want to hear you b!tch when any PS3 fanboys (or at least those you blindly label without knowing what that word actually MEANS) go on the 360 section to comment on one of THOSE stories. It's only fair that you give the same courtesy there that they are giving you HERE!

[ReBurn]

Anything from Kotaku is bound to stir up the emotions, isn't it? I say let Sony show off Home. To some I'm sure that it will be a game. Some people like to wander around in virtual worlds like that.