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Playground Games: Xbox One X Will Lead Platform for A New Unannounced Title

The Forza Horizon 3 software house, Playground Games, talked about its next project (which according to some rumors could be Fable IV), confirming that Xbox One X will be the reference platform for the game development.

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Obscure_Observer2341d ago

This can´t be right. According some PS fans on N4G, this new RPG will be released on PS4 because... you know... Playground is an independent studio and not a second party studio for Microsoft. Lmao!

uptownsoul2341d ago (Edited 2341d ago )

I don't believe Microsoft owns Playground games & there is no such thing as a 2nd party development studio. Either Microsoft owns PlayGround or Playground is and independent/3rd party studio.

What appears to have happened is that Microsoft contracted Playground (a 3rd party development studio) to make a new game for them...(the same type of thing Sony did with Insomniac for Spider-Man). If you can link any info showing Microsoft's acquisition of Playground, I'd love to see it.

Obscure_Observer2341d ago

@uptownsoul

"I don't believe Microsoft owns Playground games & there is no such thing as a 2nd party development studio."

http://nintendo.wikia.com/w...

uptownsoul2341d ago (Edited 2341d ago )

@Obscure_Observer

You do know the website you linked can be edited by the community, right?

But putting that to the side, if you can show where Microsoft owns PlayGround Games (in full, or in part), I will gladly retract & apologize. Or if you can show where Microsoft has some type of long term contract whereby PlayGround Games can only make games for Microsoft (indefinitely or to a certain date in the future), I will also retract & apologize.

Otherwise Playground Games, like Insomniac, are 3rd party development studios that are currently being contracted by Microsoft & Sony respectively.

Prince_TFK2340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

@uptownsoul

“We've heard the new Fable is planned as a story and character-focussed open-world action RPG. A significant investment in its development is also planned, with some 200 people set to work on the game at Playground's newly-established second office in Leamington Spa, Warwickshire.”

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Opening a brand new second studio while hiring upto 200 people just for Fable is not what I call a short term contract. It is obvious by this preparation that Playground’s main studio is preparing for the rumored Horizon 4 this year while their second studio is making Fable 4. And as you may have already known, making an AAA game doesn’t take only 1 or 2 months.

Oh and in case you need reference for Forza Horizon 4, which is rumored to be set in Japan and is releasing this year:

http://gearnuke.com/forza-h...

Obscure_Observer2340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

@uptownsoul

"You do know the website you linked can be edited by the community, right?"

Yeah dude, i know that. I also know now, that you know better than people that are part of an OFFICIALLY LICENSED NINTENDO COMMUNITY/CHANNEL, right? S/

"What appears to have happened is that Microsoft contracted Playground (a 3rd party development studio) to make a new game for them...(the same type of thing Sony did with Insomniac for Spider-Man)."

Appears? Dude, you don´t know NOTHING about Playground Games! There´s not Playground Games before Microsoft! They were assembled to create the Forza Horizon series, and Forza Horizon is the ONLY game franchise that those guys have developed for their entire existence (as Playground Games).

Insomniac used to be Sony´s second party developer working exclusively on Sony´s IPs and they made it PUBLIC when both parties part ways after Resistence 3 so Insomniac could go full independent with their projects/IPs like Sunset Overdrive. Sony doesn´t own Spiderman. What they have with Insonmiac is a third party developer contract for a third party IP. That´s it!

"Or if you can show where Microsoft has some type of long term contract whereby PlayGround Games can only make games for Microsoft (indefinitely or to a certain date in the future), I will also retract & apologize."

What? Even if i had job at Playground Games, you should know that i could never disclose that kind of information to you since it not meant to be public knowlodge.

Bottom line. Gamers can be delusional sometimes. They let their passion speaks louder than their common sense.

To think that Microsoft doesn´t have a lock of any kind by contract over Playground Games which prevents them from to become a Sony exclusive/first party studio overnight is crazy! The studio is responsable by the best scored Xbox One game so far and Forza Horizon 3 is the best racing game of this generation if not all time! Just like, Insomniac, Ready at Dawn and Remedy, i´m 100% sure that Playground Game will let people know in case they decide to go full third party multiplatform developers.

RadarRider2340d ago

2nd Party = Contract - business school isn't for everyone.

uptownsoul2340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

@Obscure_Observer - "To think that Microsoft doesn´t have a lock of any kind by contract over Playground Games which prevents them from to become a Sony exclusive/first party studio overnight is crazy!"

1) Who said anything about PlayGround working with Sony??? I never said that, so as far as I'm concerned, you just made that up!

2) Just because the 3 games PlayGround Games has made are Microsoft exclusive does NOT mean Microsoft owns the studio.

So I'll ask again(FOR THE 3RD TIME), can you show where Microsoft owns PlayGround Games (in full or in part)???

ROFLOL...Have you ever been to Playground's website??? http://www.playground-games... ...The very first line says "Playground Games is an independent game development studio."

PlayGround Games is an INDEPENDENT Game Development Studio.

I...REST...MY...CASE!!!

Cyborgg2340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

"So I'll ask again(FOR THE 3RD TIME), can you show where Microsoft owns PlayGround Games (in full or in part)??? "

He can't show you or prove it lol. Just curious so the PC version of their new game will be the inferior version🤔🤔

uptownsoul2340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

@Cyborgg

I actually deleted that part of my comment b/c I've already proven my point. And the reason why @Obscure_Observer can't show any proof of Microsoft owning Playground Games (in full or in part) is b/c Microsoft does NOT own Playground Games in any shape, form or fashion. The very FIRST sentence on Playground's own website ( http://www.playground-games... ) says: "Playground Games is an independent game development studio."

@Obscure_Observer: Turns out Playground games & Insomniac games are BOTH INDEPENDENT development studios...Like I Stated Before

TheCommentator2340d ago

@ Uptown Soul, you're right and wrong about 2nd Party...

Wikipedia states that a, "Second-party developer is a colloquial term often used by gaming enthusiasts and media to describe three different forms of game development studios:
1.Independently owned studios who take development contracts from the platform holders and produce games exclusive to that platform.[7]
2.Studios that are partially or wholly owned by the platform holder (also known as a subsidiary) and produce games exclusive to that platform.[citation needed]
3.Companies that make video game consoles, but also make games on other platforms.[citation needed]

In reality, the resulting game is first party (since it is funded by the platform holder, who usually owns the resulting IP), but the term helps to distinguish independent studios from those directly owned by the platform holder. These studios may have exclusive publishing agreements (or other business relationships) with the platform holder, while maintaining independence. Examples are Insomniac Games (which previously developed games solely for Sony's PlayStation platforms as an independent studio), ADK for SNK consoles, Rareware for Nintendo, and Game Freak (which primarily develops the Nintendo-exclusive Pokémon game series)."

morganfell2340d ago

"...will be the reference platform for the game development."

So its multiplatform. Okay.

DiRtY2340d ago

Just to clear things up:

1st party: Published and developed by console manufacturer or studios that are owned by a console manufacturer

2nd party: Published by console manufacturer, developed by an independent studio.

3rd party: Published and developed by independent companies.

Gazondaily2340d ago

There's still a chance it could come to PS. Nothing suggests Xbox exclusivity at this point. No express confirmation anyway

fathertime44642340d ago

Second party is when a 3rd party is contracted to create a game solely for one platform. So yes there is such a thing as second party

PsBoxGamer2340d ago

No not true.Microsoft or Sony can hire a 2nd party studio for an exclusive title witch they would own the Ip for such game as they would be the ones funding the title

Xx_Pistol_xX2340d ago

I find it funny that people don't know that it's either first part or an indidendent studio. 2nd party doesn't exist it doesn't even have a definition.

Xx_Pistol_xX2338d ago

2nd party is an unofficial term that doesnt exist. Either the company owns the studio or not. Just because they are making a game for their platform doesn't make them in any way a 2nd party. They are still a 3rd party dev.

Xx_Pistol_xX2338d ago

@TheCommentator colloquial:used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary.

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Aenea2340d ago

1) I haven't seen anyone trying to claim that except you now, of course I could've missed them
2) being the lead platform doesn't automatically make something Xbox exclusive tho, probably will be, but that's besides my point

Obscure_Observer2340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

@Aenea

"1) I haven't seen anyone trying to claim that except you now, of course I could've missed them"

I didn´t make my comments based on somebody´s opinion so, i´m not sure what´s your point here.

"2) being the lead platform doesn't automatically make something Xbox exclusive tho, probably will be, but that's besides my point"

Well, according to your logic, third party devolpers will always favors the console which the bigger install base, right? If anything that you said has a grip on reality, Playstation 4 should be the lead platform for the supposed Playground´s new third party rpg, no? Let me guess... you´re contradicting yourself again, aren´t you? ;)

NoPeace_Walker2340d ago

Aenea...if you read the article from Eurogamer, it is the lead platform for development based on the MS ecosystem of the OG XB1, The X, and Windows. The X will be the lead platform for the new RPG game from Playground game...which is already confirmed to be a new Open world Fable game. It will not be on PS4 as MS funded the project.

bluefox7552340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

Yeah, it is a bit odd that they'd avoid the word "exclusive" entirely...wonder why that is.
@NoPeace It was NOT confirmed to be a fable game, you're just lying. It's a rumor. Though I hope it is.
@Obscure You seem a little obsessed. I'm sure MS appreciates the dedication, but man, take it down a notch.

lxeasy2340d ago

I'm gonna have to get an Xbox One X

GottaBjimmyb2340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

If Playgrounds is really making a new Fable game, I am extremely excited to see it, IMO playground is one of the best Devs out there, glad they are getting a chance to expand their profile.

@obscure Lead platform is more relative to the optimization and target hardware for the game, not really anything to do with exclusivity. If it is a fable game, I HIGHLY doubt it will be multiplat though, if not, then this article doesn't really lend credence to the argument of it being an MS exclusive.

Aenea2340d ago

"I didn´t make my comments based on somebody´s opinion so, i´m not sure what´s your point here."

Perhaps your fantasy? I don't know, haven't seen anyone else claim it...

"Well, according to your logic, third party devolpers will always favors the console which the bigger install base, right? If anything that you said has a grip on reality, Playstation 4 should be the lead platform for the supposed Playground´s new third party rpg, no? Let me guess... you´re contradicting yourself again, aren´t you? ;)"

My logic? That's absurd, I didn't say that and if I said something like it, I bet it was more nuanced than that, yeah, am going with your fantasy even with this!

Thing is, you're drawing premature conclusions. Sure, you're probably right tho, as I said in my previous post, but it's not 100% iron clad evidence of anything.

And even tho a dev can be full on 3rd party it doesn't mean they can have a preference for the underdog.
Also to be honest I find it very weird that a midgen upgrade console with a lower install base than the base console, is the lead platform...

NoPeace_Walker2340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

Lead platform for the MS ecosystem.

If you go to the youtube DF video interview at the 9:00 - 9:15 mark, Playground game clearly stated the X is the lead platform so it can easily scale down to the XB1 S, the OG XB1 and possibly PC for the new PG's game. No other console platform was mentioned.

The new game is MS exclusive. Deal with it, buddy.

Aenea2340d ago (Edited 2340d ago )

@NoPeace

*Windows, not MS

Anyhoo, it's hard to actually read what I was saying huh? Was only saying that "Console Y" being lead platform doesn't AUTOMATICALLY mean that it only launches on that brand of console (and PC) and I even mentioned that I'm assuming it won't come to any other platforms.

So why this reply, hmm? Makes no sense, missy!