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David Cage and Quantic Dream "shocked" by allegations of unhealthy studio culture

Three separate French reports published this afternoon level serious allegations of unhealthy studio culture at Quantic Dream, developer of Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls and the upcoming PlayStation 4 game Detroit: Become Human.

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UCForce2374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

I will say this again. This is so similar to CD Project Red. Now they don’t have same scenario, but Quantic Dream and CD Project Red have similar issues like being criticized by their former employees for being toxic with them especially they criticized their CEO the most. I don’t need to put another video about this. But youtuber by the name Yongyea who had cover some stuff about CD Project Red development issues especially their employees. Both of companies have similar issues.

Brian76554922374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

CD Project Red is actually more pertinent to how Naughty Dog runs their studio. That is both seek excellence but demand a lot of their employees, long hours and stuff. That's why many leave after but once they put on their resume they worked there it's a sure thing they will get hired somewhere else.

David Cage has taken upon himself to dictate and run the company as he wants with no empathy towards the staff, while not being nearly in the same pedigree as the other two studios. David Cage suffers from narcissism and can't admit there is a problem, nor will he admit his writing is terrible which is why his games will never be within the same calibur as Naughty Dog or CD Project Red.

UCForce2374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

True, but at the same time this make me think a lot about it. Sure, you are right about David Cage and his questionable decision, but some of his old games like Heavy Rain have been loved by many. Detroit Become Human will have similar things like Heavy Rain. About David Cage personal and his management of this company, that will be up to him when he done his game. If I sound like defending him, i’m not. Because after read this new, I do think he need to answer what he done.

rainslacker2374d ago

BS.

Quantic Dreams makes their own engine, and it's a damn fine one. They have a lot of detail in their graphical design. Their game play, while minimal, is solid as a rock.

Putting Quantic Dreams on your resume is no small thing. Putting them on your resume means you will likely stand out in the crowd, because the studio does produce quality output.

David Cage owns the studio he works for. He may be narcissistic, but it's his studio. So long as he's not being abusive, he can be as demanding as he wants. If the compensation isn't enough, then people can leave. You think management over at ND are just nonchalant about getting work done? They aren't. From what I've heard, it's actually pretty stressful because of the demands placed on the employees.

More so, I don't know what these people complaining expect from other studios. Every studio tends to be pretty demanding. It's the number one reason that people eventually leave the industry. Maybe it' an EU thing, because during my short time working in Europe, they seemed like you had to bend over backwards to accommodate your employees.

The quality of his games are irrelevant to his attitude, and I've seen the credits for his games for a while now, and they always seem to have the same people in the core studio. They aren't a big studio, and the names stick in my head because they aren't overly common names. Having so many of the same people working for a long time at one studio isn't usually indicative that working conditions are overly bad.

morganfell2374d ago

"David Cage has taken upon himself to dictate and run the company as he wants with no empathy towards the staff, while not being nearly in the same pedigree as the other two studios. "

Oh look, its the definition of an assumption.

Kribwalker2374d ago

Not even close to the same thing UC. Cd Projekt Red were dealing with people complaining about working longer hours, and high demands that are a common thing in this industry.

This is about sexual harassment, racism, and more.
“One particular area of contention is a cache of some 600 controversial photoshopped images dating back to 2013. Canard PC's report has a header image with some of the photoshopped pictures in. Mediapart's is the third report.

"The most shocking [images] present Quantic Dream's collaborators in sexual positions, adorned with homophobic or sexist slurs, or even made up to look like Nazis," said Le Monde's report, translated by Eurogamer.”

You can’t start slandering CD Projekt and putting them in the same class as david cage, as that guy is clearly not doing right by his employees if he is knowingly letting this stuff go on (they have said he was included in the emails) and contributing to the toxic environment
“Others have apparently witnessed homophobic or racist jokes. One incident involved a burglary caught on CCTV. After watching, Cage allegedly asked an employee of Tunisian origin, "Is that a cousin of yours?"”

Not even a comparable situation. If anything is closer to the same situation it would have been the sexual harassment accusations against Naughty Dog http://www.playstationlifes...

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UCForce2374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

Did you read my first comment ? I say similar but not the same scenario. About the guy who sued Naughty Dog for being sexual harassment which I do both of them need to answer, his problem was not tellling name who harassed him and he just criticized ND at a whole that could lead misunderstanding.

Edit : And besides, Microsoft have been lawsuit for being sexual harassment, not just Sony. I don’t need to put sites. But you can see that. And @Nysux, you know QD is second party and you need to read some PM that I sent it to you, Nysux.

sprinterboy2374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

@kribwalker
The sexual positions and nazi uniform images you mention was from a fancy dress party, over here in Europe and the UK we ofton do these things, in fact it's normal, must be dull over there in the states

343_Guilty_Spark2374d ago

What does QD being a Sony Studio have anything to do with allegations of racism and sexism. This kind of behavior isn’t acceptable anywhere.

Team_Litt2374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

Nyxus are you saying because it's a Sony studio it can't be true?
Also why are you guys disagreeing with Krib when he's simply quoting the article?
I'm not saying what is being said here is true but comparing long hours to sexual harassment is beyond ridiculous. Krib is right that this alleged QD situation is more akin to the alleged situation reported over at ND.
Leave CD put of this.

Aenea2374d ago

With stuff like this I always wish we would have all the details instead of having to guess. Always wonder why people are so quick to believe one thing over another even tho they weren't there themselves.

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Kribwalker2374d ago

@aenea

well there is photographic proof of part of the claim (the photoshop photographs with hate words and homophobic words) as well as an email trail of the photos that show it going up as far as the studio heads, so no matter what, there is a basis of proof here

rainslacker2374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

But it's OK to slander QD because of the reports, which are still under investigation?

One of the complaints by the former employees was that they had to work longer hours as well.

There is more to this than just the images, harassment, and racism. It just seems like a hodgepodge of former employees filing claims of unlawful termination. Something that is kind of a thing in the EU, as if they left on their own, they aren't entitled to continue to be paid for however long it is. If they were let go, with or without cause, then they would have to continue to be paid.

Maybe you could mention the average turn around time on their employees is about 7 years, with a lot of people who have been there for almost two decades. 7 years is quite impressive for a single studio. That's not usually something you see from a company with a toxic working environment. In the game industry, it's not even overly common in companies with great working environments.

I'd wait until the investigation is done before casting blame around. I give those same considerations for anyone who is accused, whether it was CDPR, ND, or now QD. As it stands now, QD is a studio of 180 people(according to the report). It's about 14 former employees who lodged complaints...and those images were apparently created and made visible to the rest of the company by someone who is doing the complaining....although the translation may be a bit off on if he created them.

Im not familiar with LaMonde....a paper who did the investigation....but reading through the comments on the actual report, it seems they are a fairly well respected paper, and I see quite a few comments who say that this report is lacking of their typical journalistic quality.

Ceaser98573612373d ago

Just saying Allegations aint always TRUE and people needs to stop making a mountain out of a mole hill. David needs to come up and speak and things will be clear.. It has been seen some people puts such allegations to steal the spot light , or some allegations are put forward due to misunderstandings...

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segamaniaco2373d ago

Ill be very mad if the sjw cancel this game

UCForce2374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

I know I got a lot of disagreement about what I said. But I will say this, after I read this new. I do think David Cage need to answer what he had done and Sony need to end partnership with him.

gangsta_red2374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

So hang the man out to dry without a trial or anything of the sort eh?

What sort of Sony loyalist are you?

Kabaneri2374d ago

Yes United Communist Force, everyone knows that you are outraged as usual.....

UCForce2374d ago

Hey, i’m not a communist. I extremely hate them for what they done. But i’m also not capitalism. @Mr-Dude i’m just tired of all this. After I took a break and read the new again, i just don’t know anymore. Again, I’m not communist here, but you are right about me. I’m a person who has pure rage and always being serious.

UCForce2374d ago

@Pintheshadows What you want to do ? Try to hide it ? I do my best not to rage a lot. Sure, I do rage a lot but after I grow older, so I do melding down.

Aenea2374d ago

BS, why would Sony do this? Unless there is actual evidence for this I don't see any reason to make rash decisions based on allegations....

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bluefox7552374d ago

What nonsense. This whole idea that we need to throw due process out the window, and that people are now guilty until proven innocent is completely absurd, and everything that's wrong with today's culture.

Mr-Dude2374d ago (Edited 2374d ago )

@UCforce
If he is guilty of course he has to answer for his actions. But we live in a world where we are innocent unless proven guilty. If it were you, how would you feel if everybody would react like you if someone accused you?

Man, with your comments and people who do the same fit in with that cestpool called resetera.

Think about that. That's why people downvote you...

rainslacker2374d ago

I don't feel this report is enough to warrant such a harsh result. The actual report also interviewed current employees, and they all said they're satisfied, and never felt that these reports were in any way substantial.

The report itself was hard to read because of the translation, but it does give QD executives their say. The report though seems to be framed to be presumptuous of it being true, as opposed to being a real investigation into the nature of the claims.

There are also some things in it which make some of the claims questionable...namely it seems the person who released the photos for all to see was one of the former employees, so on that aspect alone, it seems that it's quite possible that it wasn't something endemic about the company or management, but always meant to be private stuff meant for certain individuals.

I'd recommend everyone go read the original report by LaMonde instead of the EG report. It is more comprehensive.

Biggest thing I saw was that because a lot of the people there have been working there so long, there is a big sense of familiarity between the employees. Having worked in places where people are probably overly comfortable talking to one another, I can that someone coming in uninitiated can certainly feel as if what's being done is abusive. While I'd say that a lot of times that stuff is certainly inappropriate for a work place, it's doesn't mean that the company is a toxic place to work. What makes it toxic is if the management isn't willing to consider how others feel when inappropriate behavior comes to their attention.

DarXyde2373d ago (Edited 2373d ago )

UCForce,

I don't know, I have my doubts. Some of these complaints are just...odd. There are complaints of inappropriate imagery sent around company emails. That's just juvenile and very easily provable. They're game developers. They know how to code. Thus, they probably know a thing or two about computer science and computer security. I have an incredibly difficult time believing that a studio with 130 people did not consider this. The whole "farting testes" thing too...I'm not convinced. This is just weird and childish.

Pintheshadows,

"The ist you are looking for is autist."

That's not at all a sad and immature thing to say.

MoonConquistador2373d ago

@UC Force - You appear to suffer from the same problem as Donald Trump with his access to Twitter. Post comments and then try to engage your brain after.

If you don't want to read the whole story and look for the factual content (or in this case at least for the whole story to come out in the wash) maybe you'd be better not posting anything and hold back on the lynch mob mentality.