The Division is getting back on track while Destiny 2 disappoints

FGR writes:
It has always been between these two MMO's when it comes to RPG Shooter ones. Well, as I thought, even after a slow start, The Division seems to has retained its popularity after a series of painful, but successful patches. We know it was a slow start, but hey, they’re finally back on track.

[Rude-ro]

Two years of trying to fix one game and make it it good had nothing to do with a functional game that chose a path way that fans do not like.
Completely different scenarios.

[shadowraiden]

the base division game was just as good as base destiny 1. sure Destiny has had bigger press due to their marketing behind their "expansions" which by the way should have been in the game from the start.

Division has given constant free updates with new content and addressing concerns the community has had.
they offered what i feel is a great take on the "survival battle royal" style game mode which i would love to see as a standalone game by them for a cut price.

my only gripe with Division was i felt the "dark zone" should have been the whole map it would of added a more alive aspect then have the missions scattered inside those zones for the story.

[Rude-ro]

The base was good as in having great potential... but the end game was horrible. But the quality did not matter when the game was as broken as it was.
The content was not free, because people like me who bought the deluxe version funded the support... that ended up “free”.
Taking away entire builds was also a horrible move to players like me. Setting me back not only having anything, but having to re-grind all of it,
Pvp was hacked.
On and on.
Destiny worked. Destiny did not need months to release patches to get the game into a better place.
Destiny 1 trumps the division. Content and quality.
D2 was a reset and bad choices... but game still works better.
Do you think the division 2 would’ve launch with the same amount of content that is finally in the division?

[showtimefolks]

Is the division Wirth picking up now? The vanilla game is cheap but I wonder how much would it have to pay to pick up the dlc

And I would be playing solo worth it ?

[TheColbertinator]

You can enjoy and finish it on your own. I got for around 20,spent a good month on it

[showtimefolks]

Do you have to buy the dlc to really enjoy it? I have seen it pretty cheap used at ganestop

Yes if I were to get it I would be playing solo. If I am playing solo would other players still be playing with me I just want to go on my own pace

Thank you for answering my questions

And has the game improved a lot because I have been hearing many great things about the game

[BrianOBlivion]

@ showtimefolks
You can definitely enjoy the game alone. I put in over 100 hours completely solo before any dlc was even released.
You'll run into other players at safehouses but no interaction needed. You'll also run into other players in the pvp Dark Zone but the only interaction needed is at the end of a gun. The dark zone IS quite difficult though to navigate solo for extended periods.
Despite the detractors, I personally think the game is fantastic and traversing the near 1/1 chunk of midtown Manhattan is pretty amazing.

[TheColbertinator]

@showtimefolks

I saw all three versions on the platforms last year on Twitch and their servers ran fine. Good number still playing and the community is still kicking from the patches every few months.

Not much of a story going but you level up like an RPG more than a shooter. Level 5 players get slaughtered in level 10 areas so the game creates a pace for you. Higher levels gets you new levels and new gear to handle those challenges.

Group play is encouraged for better loot but is NOT mandatory for any significant missions.

The DLC is simply for more challenges and to be tested in particular The Last Stand.

You explore Manhattan so plenty of areas for ambushes and shootouts. Your perks give you advantages but blueprints and the Dark Zone will provide you with top notch weapons. Dark Zone is set up for to challenge you with each encounter being mini-bosses with NPCs.

[showtimefolks]

Thank you

[Profchaos]

The vanilla version can probably give you a solid 15 hours of enjoyment.

The community is really good since it's pretty small nowadays they always seem to welcome people in my experience since after all they don't want their game to die.

Plus it's cheap and if you do enjoy it the DLC is always on sale every few weeks

I don't have the DLC but I get allot of enjoyment out of roaming New York the city is just incredible and so detailed I'd buy it solely for that

[showtimefolks]

Thank you i will look into it

[cfc83]

It all depends what you want. I think it's worth it. It's cheap, and to me offers value. I roam around solo also, for the small skirmishes to gain collectables etc....however, when i enter missions i do a search for randoms. I find this the best way to play the game. Some people say you can quickly do single player missions, but i like to spend time doing random stuff, like shooting car tyres, trying to enter buildings that can't be entered and appreciating the bullet physics and general enviroment. Go at your own pace. Often people say a game is 'boring', but maybe they're just creating a boring experience for themselves.

[Legion21]

I started playing avidly in the last couple of months or so and I have been enjoying my time. You don't actually need the DLC, though it does provide some more variety. As far as playing solo I don't know, I'd find playing through the story solo boring. The end game content is where the game shines and that could be played solo or with randoms

[Vegamyster]

The game is pretty good right now, the first months were pretty rough but Ubisoft did a great job sticking with it & improving it.

[thorstein]

Just make sure you turn off PVP in Survival, easily my favorite mode and more akin to what I thought the game was going to be.

The game is quite fun, but you can't really do any of the big raids if you are going solo. The DZ can be good since they tweaked it and the enemies aren't total bullet sponges now. Going rogue is easier and everyone knows. You can still DZ by yourself. I do.

[sprinterboy]

I played the division from start to finish on my own as my friends let me down playing it together and really enjoyed it, great story imo and great environment to explore.

[showtimefolks]

Thank you is there a lot of story DLC expansion packs for buy ?

[sprinterboy]

@showtime
Unfortunately not story wise but there is dlc which has been too hard for me to finish on my own, as it's more suited to group gameplay

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

gamestop got the division for 15 bucks now. Was gonna pick it up tomorrow.

[MagicBeanz]

How has "it always been between these two", they are completely different games. Just because they are both MMO's doesn't mean they're anything alike, also is it not possible to praise one without shitting on the other?

[quent]

Its pretty easy to shit on Destiny 2 and the people who continuously support the ip

[MagicBeanz]

Its just as easy to let it go and not worry about it if its something that doesn't interest you.

[Profchaos]

I always figured the division was more of a response to destiny 2 but they were apples to oranges ones more story driven the other has like 3 cutscenes and is focused on community interaction

[yomfweeee]

Destiny isn't an MMO.

[_FantasmA_]

How are they competing when one came out in Sept 2017 and the other in March 2016? Thafuq?

[coolbeans]

I don't think it's that unfair of a comparison. You have to look beyond their release timelines here. To explain:

-The Division 1.8: How updates of the base 'looter-shooter' have expanded the game.
-Destiny 2: Sequel TO the original which started said 'looter-shooter' craze lacks in comparison. Even if treating Destiny 2 as a big "update" of the original, it's lacking in comparison to somewhat-similar competition.

It's a strained-but-not-unjustified comparison.

[_FantasmA_]

The Division was being compared to Destiny 1, not D2.

[MadLad]

Been loving Division since I grabbed it late November. Got it, and all the added content, for about $20.
Well worth it. The game is still very much alive and cooking.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

If it took almost two years for The Division to apparently be good finally, then why in the world was it released so early? No gamer should have to wait that long to get the full potential out of a release many paid $60+ for.

[Jon_Targaryen]

I knew The Division was too good to be true when it was first showed at E3. Do a side by side of the E3 footage and actual release and be amazed how bad Ubisoft lie to sell games....

[Profchaos]

The division is such a strange case for me somedays it plays amazingly but other days it's just way to laggy and I'm constantly dying way to easy I honestly think it's just the servers vs Australia given the games age in most likely hitting US servers.

[porkChop]

Can we stop referring to games like Destiny and The Division as MMOs? There's nothing "massively multiplayer" about them.

[InMyOpinion]

The good thing about Destiny 2's downfall is that it increases the chances of us getting a sequel to The Division. And I think it has the chance to become really good.

[MadLad]

Put the game off for so long. Then I got to try the thing during Steam's free weekend, and fell in love with the thing. Grabbed the game, plus all the added content, and have been playing it off and on ever since. Went hard on it the first few weeks, and now it's my fall back game for whenever I get bored with whatever my main title of the moment is.

As for Destiny 2, I got bored about 20 hours in, before I even fully finished the campaign. Will jump back into it, but, for me, there is no staying power there. I don't think I can even justify my $20 that was spent on it.

[PFFT]

Ive been playing the Division since day one. And i am glad UBI didnt just up and abandon its title. They have been sticking to it and making the game BETTER and BETTER with every update and addition they make. Great Job UBI i cant wait to see what they add next.

[FPS_D3TH]

Two different scenarios but it’s true, about 50% of our most active members have left destiny 2 and play division on the regular.

[PUBG]

The Division should never have been allowed to include the Tom Clancy namesake, as it is a complete disgrace to the Tom Clancy franchise. As far as Destiny goes, people should have been smart enough to avoid Destiny 2 after getting hosed on the first game. No real story telling, boring open world, all you do is grind for equipment and it had a very limited amount of content at launch. Both games are complete garbage IMO.

[DafunkyRebel]

I’ll give Ubisoft massive props for spending money to fix their games instead of just trashing it and making changes in the sequel.

[Kyizen]

Did Division fix its empty world?

[Father__Merrin]

Destiny 2 shows you in game that the new sections are here but only accessible if you pay I hate when games do that. Makes you feel you haven't got the full game.

Went into destiny 2 today, crucible is showing two other sections in gold the curse of Osiris edging you on to purchase.....sorry I'm reading it tomorrow for ff12 zodiac age