Well. This could be the moment many Xbox fans have been waiting for. An announcement that Keyboard and Mouse support will finally be coming to Xbox One consoles everywhere.
PS4 does have KB+M support for games. Most of the games that support it are just MMO's though. However, I believe I read that Paragon also supports it. There is probably a list out there somewhere.
There is nothing in Sony's compliance standards which prevent developers from allowing it for any game. I think the reason we don't see it more, at least with MP games, is that they don't want the disparity between the controller and KB players on the console itself.
Its not a feature that overly promoted by Sony for sure, but it's been available for a while now. I believe that there are even some X1 games that supported it before today, although I don't care to go look it up now.
You're right though, it doesn't mean they're turning into PC's. Personally, I think more games which support KB+M would be welcome. For MP games though, I think a way to separate controller and KB+M players as an option would be good to promote.
Let's see DLC started on PC, virtual Stores started on PC, online gaming started on PC. Besides that, look at consoles today:
Purchasing games on Steam and installing it onto PC hard drive process is the same as doing it via PSN store, Xbox Live Marketplace, and Nintendo eshop.
Buying physical copies of console games must be installed onto hard drive first and go through the EULA, License Agreements, etc. same as buying a physical copy of a PC game minus the cd key or creating a folder for the game.
The decline of console game identity in favor of PC oriented games from isometric rpgs (pillars of eternity, divinity original sin), simulation games like City Skylines and Space Kerbal Program. The lack of arcade wacky games on consoles.
Console upgrade ahem from PS4 to PS4 Pro and Xbox One to Xbox One X.
Kb and m support for web surfing and applications.
at the end of the day its up to the developers to enable the kb/m support. the console supports it for using the internet along with messages and simple control of the home screen.
Well I don't see why would be that much of a stretch. It seems that these consoles have been trying to be more like low budget PC's more and more over time.
hey Ghost, hate to break it to you, I've been playing with a KB/M on PS4 for a while now.. It's pretty obvious im not alone when you look at the kill replays and see clear signs of mouse-ratcheting. You've been playing with kb/m players for a while. that said, the PS3 supported plug and play peripherals, including mouse and keyboard. it's always been up to the developer. Remember Unreal Tournament 3 for PS3? It had modding and KB/M support.
Sony has made no use of K&M support on the PS4. MS has stated in the past that we could see many PC titles make the move over to Xbox due to added K&M support. Btw, who owns Windows again? Yeah, that would be MICROSOFT! Backward and forward compatibility and now all the best PC games coming soon to Xbox. Get raedy for the new Xbox master race! lol
Consoles been strip down pc for years already, Theyre just adding true precision,let's face it, shooters on consoles can't compare to shooters on pc, why do u think mouse always beat controller?
Yup, because what else can a console manufacturer do with console hardware. The console manufacturers got rid of the consoles unique architecture/console inner parts (PS3 XDRAM or cell processor).....
Keyboards for a console go back to the 80s like C64 or Dreamcast, Gamecube, PS2, Wii, PS3, PS4 etc. So it's nothing special. My wireless headset made for PC's works on PS4.
No, otherwise you could do a whole lot more and have even better graphics in an upgradable system. This just allows mouse keyboard players to go against those with controllers. I wonder if auto-assist will be turned off in many FPS as this seems to be an issue with m&k players.
Do you know what a PC is? PC is not merely a mouse and keyboard.. I've always wanted mouse and keyboard support on the Xbox mainly for RTS gaming that is still my preferred method of playing a real time strategy game.
Fixed it for you. As something seems to have been lost in translation. As if you're trying to Levy that charge against the Xbox, the ps4 has pretty much been following suit. Like I said earlier they both seem to have been becoming low budget PC'S over time.
Wow, can I sell you oxygen? I provide great service, and great infrastructure.
The service and infrastructure is provided by the game developers. Not by Microsoft. The live fee is a service charge for using their console to access the internet to play games..
Yeah, I agree with you there. There's way too much money in the subscriptions that these guys are selling. So they're going to try their best to keep that going for as long as they can.
cfc833h ago Wouldn't want free online. Gold is a great service, with a great infrastructure
What? Now while I agree that live is a pretty damn good service, and the best service out of any of the consoles, but who the hell would not want free online? Hell, Microsoft has enough money. Any chance that I get to keep some of my own, I'm taking.
Civilization, total war series, original sin 2 and office apps would make this announcement much more exciting. Hopefully they get their heads outta the sand, there's a gold mine out there!
Oh nice! This move makes me actually want to buy a console now.
I can't use a controller due to issues with my thumbs, can't effectively fondle the nipples of the controller. As they are the entire movement system, makes playing very uncomfortable if not impossible.
It sucks missing out on awesome games because they are console exclusives. Don't get me wrong, PC does have an awesome collection, but not being able to play uncharted and red dead among many other games I admired, but have all but forgotten about just blows.
Plus with MS backwards compatibility thriving on xboxone all the more enticing.
If the kbm works outright (no special patches needed to support the games) you just got yourself a new customer!
Consoles have had KM support for a while now Ps4 since at least 2014 FF14 supports it and of course it's a case by case basis. However, it has been long enough for people to pretend this is new.
Yeah, I know they have had partial keyboard and mouse support, but as you said game support is a bit spotty. If MS does this and the support is global over all games, then I'm all for it.
If its the same old crap as before, game needs to be programmed to support kbm, or a patch needs to be released for it, not just plug and play working right out the box, then yeah, not interested at all.
I think the PS4 supported mouse and keyboard from launch on a system level, there just weren't any games that did. I used to use a bluetooth keyboard to message friends on the PS4.
I think you can map the controls to the keyboard. Specific games would have to be patched to actually work though, otherwise the most would have to interpret the analog sticks to the mouse movements, which isn't as accurate as mouse XY mapping.
If it's like it is on the PS4, which is likely, many devs may not enable it, because the controller is going to be used by the vast majority of players, and a lot of pubs/devs want to keep things equal between the player base. Mouse support has been available for a long time. Nothing is preventing devs from enabling it. They just choose not to, and I don't see that changing. If I were to look into it, it's quite possible that the dev can choose to prevent KB/M support for any game they choose.
"can't effectively fondle the nipples of the controller"
I never pictured the analog sticks of a controller as breasts before, but I have a feeling I might not be able to get that idea out of my head now. How will I ever play console games normally ever again?
Maybe maybe they see it as a bit redundant. As even ihe two regular ps and MS boxes are so close to one another. Nah, give me a PC and a Switch. Two definitely more unique experiences from one another.
Why? I don't see the logic of having low end closed platform PCs. For years console gamers were claiming gamepads were better than kb and m. Now that consoles support it is ok. Ok still don't get it
some uses modded controllers for better accessibility to buttons which gives you some kind of an edge in certain situations. I say play with the gear you want.
Arcade stick are allowed on consoles, which some don't have. Is it an advantage VS a gamepad? Hell yes! but it's still allowed, so why not KB/M?!?!?!
So... Microsoft is basically turning the Xbox One in a PC?
Xbox One PC/STEAMBOX?
Closer and closer the Xbox will be a Microsoft focused PC Machine.
Next up we might get full mod support,free online play and Steam support.
Yes!
I'd take that over the ChatPad any day!