Today during the PlayStation Experience opening presentation Sony Interactive Entertainment CEO Shawn Layden and Guerrilla Games Hermen Hulst pledged dedication to Single player games.
Shawn Layden: don't want to go to any of the teams and tell them "I read in a magazine that there is something called Games as a Service, make me one of those”
this is how PlayStation won this generation, their executives understand what gamers want, while others don't know anything beyond market reach PDFs and power point presentations.
@darth
That’s why I don’t buy Xbox exclusives (what few exclusives they have left). Their best multiplayer games have declined. Halo and gears can no longer compete with titans like call of duty, battlefield, and overwatch and I can play those multiplayer titans on the PS4 with better graphics and a bigger user base.
@darth
I have an Xbox One. I bought it when it was $500. You can check my gamer tag for yourself. If you do, you would also notice that I haven’t turned on my Xbox since I played quantum break last year.
@coin, im not trolling you bro. I really am glad that you are using the ps4 to its fullest. I just like to do SP games on mine so I really dont have to be a Plus member anymore.
I kept trying to find a reason to sign up again but since I dont do MP on it then its not a thing for me. I am cool with playing offline only games. Shawns comment makes my choice even more decided.
@aura, i know. I dont game on PC and been a gold member for some time.
Why is Darth getting so many down votes? Lol him agreeing with the article and gamers and saying it his SP system is a reason to down vote? I don't get it.
@truth
The majority of critics and gamers would disagree with you. Halo 5 is the lowest scoring, worst selling halo in the series. Gears 4 is the lowest scoring, worst selling gears in the series. CoD, battlefield, and overwatch have all dwarfed halo and gears in terms of critical acclaim and/or popularity. You didn’t understand my logic at all. Multiplayer games take a lot of time investment. I only have time to get good at one or two multiplayer shooters per year. When I pick two multiplayer shooters to invest my time in, I’m not going to pick halo or gears because they aren’t the top shooters anymore. With SP games, I have enough time to play more than two. I have more than enough time to play Witcher 3 and Horizon and nier and Wolfenstein... Sony is smart to invest in SP games and let the multiplayer giants fight it out. Judging by sales and critical acclaim, Sony’s SP games can still compete with the best. As far as being insecure, I already said I have an Xbox. I criticize MS because I want them to create unique experiences just like Sony gave us the likes of uncharted and the last of us.
@truth
Btw, saying things like “halo is still the best” and “overwatch is complete garbage” and then calling me insecure is probably the epitome of irony.
I've been a PlayStation supporter since the launch of the PS1 and every single generation, Sony has delivered the goods in both hardware and software! I see no reason not to continue my brand loyalty to them!
Most gamers owned ps1 and ps2 Xbox and Nintendo consoles didn't become relavent till the 360, Wii era* (*at the time of playstation's arrival. Nintendo was before hand, but not during)
I'm completely on board with this! I enjoy multiplayer games, but I find it more difficulty to find quality single player games. Big thumbs up to SONY for always delivering high quality single player experiences.
Now they do and that's fine. . I wonder what the top 10 would look like because 2 games doesn't even scratch the surface of the quality and variety that's been launched on the ps4 this gen. Sony smashed it last gen with a new ip in the dying years with the last of us. . Probably game of the gen and they kept their momentum this gen with quantity and quality. Not to put a downer on Nintendo but they're put out their best so what next year looks like will be interesting. New ip's isn't their thing like Sony. Microsoft on the other hand. . . Well . .what can I say that hasn't already been said since last gen.
I do love Zelda and Odyssey but that's just two games. On the other hand out of the 70 something games I have over half are Sony exclusives and they range in genre and are all extremely fun!
I'm not hating on Nintendo as I have a Switch but it's my companion console. The reason being is Nintendo doesn't really release new IP's. Zelda, Mario and Metroid are their main AAA games.
With Zelda, Mario and Metroid(3DS)already being released this year it's gonna be a little dry as far as must play titles go on the Switch. Most of the third party titles I already have on PS4.
On the other hand Sony has a stacked year coming with Detroit, Ni noh Kuni II, God of War, Spider Man, Days Gone, Dreams, Shadow of Colossus as well as PSVR titles. There's also Ghosts, Death Stranding and TLOU coming in the future.
That's why I have a Pro and Switch. To me it's a winning combination!
You're a moron!
@ darthv72 75% of the people playing online are on the PS4.
It's no wonder the Xbox fanboys are screaming for cross play,They go no one else to PLAY WITH!
That's the exact opposite of phil spencers "single player games are complicated" mentality and the main reason why the PS will always crush the xbones. Single Player games are life!
Your insecurity is showing in a cringworthy and embarrassing way...
I understand you aren't getting any good games on XBox or any games at all really, but that's no reason to come here and make yourself look pathetic in the comment sections...
It's just.... sad..
I feel bad for you, man...
If you got over your painfully obvious insecurities, then maybe you could let go of your crushed ego and get a PlayStation. Then you would have tons of great games and maybe not feel so sad and pathetic all the time.
It's okay, dude. MS has brainwashed you, I get it, but you don't have to let MS be the reason you don't have anything good to play... PlayStation can fix that for ya, poor fella..
They blame market trends and money but the truth is they only want to push online for control purposes. You have more dictation over online restrictions.
What annoys me about that attitude is that they act like they are mere puppets in the hands of these trends. But as one of the three console makers they have a responsibility to help shape the industry the right way. If Phil wants single player games and thinks they are important, he should make sure they get made.
@Nyxus
Completely agree. The problem *might* be that Microsoft being an American corporation share EA's mentality that service based games should be the only ones in existence. Whatever makes them believe that they can keep deluding themselves.
360 had the library variety it did because they had games for all types of players. Want single player? Banjo and Fable. Want party games? Lips and Scene it! Now they have completely omitted both.
Service based games might be the biggest market but restricting your market to a single base is the dumbest thing you can do. Video games are not just something to chase money on. There is much bigger opportunities here.
Problem is the American corporate culture. They no longer even consider any other options other then maximum profit, even if it will be detrimental down the road.
4 million is great for one game but if all of your games are similar structure there will be fatigue of the games and system you bring them too. Also out of many games only a few will be thst succesful. Also over 100 million people will buy a PlayStation this gen and it will have nothing tot do with GaaS
Fortnite is free, most people will at least try anything if its free so it's going to have a good count. Make Uncharted or Horizon free to play and I Imagine they would leave that 4 million figure in their dust.
Online games can produce fatigue as there are not many original out there, real gamers still want that game that will take them away from things and involve them. That is what gaming at its core is about, allowing you to experience things and stories you can't or won't in the real world, take that away and the medium is pointless, artists are pointless, writers are pointless, actors are pointless etc.
It annoys the hell out of me that Xbox owners have allowed MS to almost make their favorite brand just blend in and not stand out and go 'oh its ok they have released a more powerful console'.
Remember all that 'consoles are dead' due to the rise of mobiles, well its down to Sony and Nintendo (especially the PS4 revitalizing the market) that we still have a strong industry. We as gamers must support that industry otherwise greed (EA) will take it over and then it will be to late.
Agree! PlayStation and Bethesda have been my go too publishers this gen. Bloodborne, Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted(X2), The Last Guardian, Until Dawn, Dishonored(X2), Wolfenstein(X3), The Evil Within(X2), Prey. So many great single player experiences.
This is why they are winning. Diversity in their line up, rpgs ,amazing exclusives with single player campaigns, 4k hdr at a reasonable price, the list goes on. Sony knows their fan base.
This is why Sony is my favorite console maker because they cater to not just my needs but also everyone's needs. I've been a ps fan since I got the ps1 for Christmas and while I own all consoles because I love to game Sony will always have my heart and I'll always be there day one for their games and consoles.
That's why Sony are in the position there in. Finger on the pulse in touch with what makes the game industry great!!! Love em and that's also why I love Nintendo, SINGLE PLAYER EXPERIENCES !!!
“I read in a magazine that there is something called Games as a Service, make me one of those.”
Sony are so good at mocking others i must say. So much class in every single show they have, taking jabs at any current talking point that they can twist to their benefit.
Kiss their fans ass on stage then go back to business as usual. Just show me games, advancements in tech and future road maps. Leave the bullying and belittling of the industry to the press.
Most Sony fans don't even realise how horribly arrogant they come across. Nothing worse that a winning fighter mocking the other contenders.
Anyways, can't wait for God of War and Spiderman. The future looks bright for Sony.
Sony are opportunists. They take advantage of any mistakes the competition does and exploit it. Nothing wrong with that and is actually beneficial to them but let's be honest, they do cater to the extreme fans of theirs and they know it. All it really does is fuel the console wars feud even further and curates this segregation between the two parties more and more.
@ moldy: what about his words was extreme, exactly? He just pointed out that story driven single player games are Sony's strength and he doesn't want to impose a GaaS model on developers. If that qualifies as extreme then I'm all for it.
@Nyxus
"what about his words was extreme, exactly?"
I never said his words are extreme, I said their words attract the extremist.
"He just pointed out that story driven single player games are Sony's strength and he doesn't want to impose a GaaS model on developers. If that qualifies as extreme then I'm all for it."
Sony says this as they introduce microtransactions and multiplayer into games like Uncharted. They also turned GT into an online only title so let's not pretend Sony isn't supporting both models. They make a ton of money off of PSN Plus now, there is no turning back.
@ moldy: Pretty sure making GT an online focused game was a decision by Polyphony. All he's saying here is that he's not going to force their studios to develop service based games.
@Nyxus
"Pretty sure making GT an online focused game was a decision by Polyphony."
They work for Sony.
"All he's saying here is that he's not going to force their studios to develop service based games."
They forced Move support on Heavy Rain and we all see microtransactions in games that used to be single player only before. Sony is supporting both so don't fool yourself into thinking they will ignore online opportunities to sell additional content and Plus memberships in the process.
@ moldy: really, you have to go back to Heavy Rain on the PS3? We were talking about Shawn Layden's words from yesterday. And again, Shawn didn't say he will forbid developers to make other kinds of games, he just said he doesn't want to impose a model (in this case GaaS). Also, please not that GT Sport doesn't have loot boxes or microtransactions.
"Sony are opportunists. They take advantage of any mistakes the competition does and exploit it. Nothing wrong with that and is actually beneficial to them but let's be honest, they do cater to the extreme fans of theirs and they know it. All it really does is fuel the console wars feud even further and curates this segregation between the two parties more and more."
Yea, it was totally Sony who started this and not Microsoft last gen to start this by playing thier own fans against Sony and non-stop bragging about how they had more games more numbers and live was better and bragging about timed exclusive deals for games like CoD. It totally wasn't things like Aaron Greenburg standing up on stage bragging about console sale numbers being higher than Sony blah blah blah ect. No it TOTALLY wasn't Microsoft who started the whole "console war" thing a generation ago.
Now that they are losing however they want to act like the nice guys... Oh were so nice we hate console wars we want crossplay (even though when the numbers were equal and Sony offered it last gen they didn't) we hate timed exclusives blah blah blah while they repeatedly do the things they say they hate.
"Sony says this as they introduce microtransactions and multiplayer into games like Uncharted. They also turned GT into an online only title so let's not pretend Sony isn't supporting both models. They make a ton of money off of PSN Plus now, there is no turning back."
First you obviously wouldn't know since you don't own a PS4 but Uncharted doesn't actually have MT's yes they sell coins but the things you can buy with them are sold piece by piece not in a randomized loot box. There is a HUGE difference.
Second GT Sport is online because of the GT League License, it was a requirement as part of thier deal with FIA.
Third GT Sport is receiving free updates of which they have already announced the first one will be a full single player campaign.
Fourth yes unfortunately PS+ now costs money to play online though lets be fair things like video and MMO's and many network features in games (like Persona 5's and Nier Automata's ect.) are still available with out PS+. Things that still are locked behind Live on Xbox. And of course we have Microsoft to thank for the fact that Online is locked behind a paywall, it's hard to imagine that with out Microsoft doing it first that this would have ever caught on as a trend.
@freshslicepizza GT Sports is online focus. But it wasn’t made by Sony. It was PD. Because Mr. Kaz has been waiting to get FIA for a long time. What Gran Turismo Sport did it right is that the game have to be fair and balanced for players. Sure, GT Sport isn’t perfect but it get the job done. I think Nyxus have more logical than you. Nysux have heart and brain. And you fresh, you missing something. You are a brain without a heart, fresh.
@Platinum_Fan
"Yea, it was totally Sony who started this and not Microsoft last gen to start this by playing thier own fans against Sony and non-stop bragging about how they had more games more numbers and live was better and bragging about timed exclusive deals for games like CoD. It totally wasn't things like Aaron Greenburg standing up on stage bragging about console sale numbers being higher than Sony blah blah blah ect. No it TOTALLY wasn't Microsoft who started the whole "console war" thing a generation ago."
Like I was saying, Sony brings out the fanatics and cultivates the console wars. Thanks for proving my point.
Hell yeah it is an another reason I'm a PlayStation fan!!!!!!
I loved his line about GAAS!
That's the exact opposite of phil spencers "single player games are complicated" mentality and the main reason why the PS will always crush the xbones. Single Player games are life!
Damn right they do, single player games rule, especially the PlayStation ones
Yes, Keep at it!
Make an MP component as well if only possible like ND did with TLoU. That MP was amazing.