Bloodborne 2? Shadows Die Twice Analysis & Breakdown

As we had been expecting, From Software gave us a glimpse of their upcoming title during 2017's Video Game Awards. A short and tantalizing clip revealed nothing but “Shadows die twice.” What does this mean? Could this new game or Bloodborne 2? Or is it something else, like Shadow Tower? In this article we’ll put together everything we know and attempt to solve that puzzle and answer those questions.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Since I only played some of demon souls and not too much of blood-borne I'm not entirely sure about all the lure that goes into the souls Series so I'm not sure what this reference means.

[DreadGara]

You could have said "First" instead.

[cyber_daemonx]

You have really missed out edmix. Fantastic games tbh.

[thatguyhayat]

I dont think it is. I get a tenchu feeling. Im sure they would announce bloodborne 2 on a Sony related conference

[camel_toad]

Same here. All signs point to Tenchu so far. A new Bloodborne would be awesome but I have missed Tenchu for quite some time and I'd love to see how well it could turn out with them having so much more experience under their belt now.

[thatguyhayat]

Exactly, its time for tenchu to return

[nitus10]

Tenchu was made by "Acquire Corp" https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... which is a video game developer based in Japan so since the "new game" will be made by "From Software" https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... I very much doubt it will be a "Tenchu" or "Way of the Samurai" sequel, revamp or prequel.

"From Software" are well know for the "Kings Field" series, "Armored Core" series, "Souls" series and Bloodborne. There is another game called "Shadow Tower" https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... which was released back in 1998 for the PSX although from what I can gather the Souls series was much better.

A Bloodborne 2 or (preferably) a new IP based on the Lovecraftian mythos is more probable from the teaser trailer. Unfortunately, all we can do now is wait and savor any "scraps" that are thrown our way. 😎

[SaiyanFury]

@Nitrus,
The original 2 Tenchu games on the original PS were developed by Acquire, yes, but the PS2 games were subsequently developed by K2 as was the one on the Xbox 360 some years back. K2 then was bought by Capcom a few years ago and Tenchu 4 on The Wii and PSP was developed by Acquire but was published by FROM Software. I'm still hoping this is a Tenchu game that is superior to Tenchu 4. As a massive Tenchu fan since the original, I'm hoping this one is better than 4, if that is what it is.

[Fextralife]

Well as we said - it could be any of them. It could also be Kuon (a poor-performing game from long ago) as it matches that setting better than the bloody stuff matches Tenchu.

[UltraNova]

"*Keep in mind that a Dark Souls remaster for the Nintendo Switch may also be in the works and the reason for the partnership!"

It will be a down graded port at best.

Good analysis btw. I'm leaning on Tenchu as well. But my true hope is that its DeS2!

That said, do you guys have any insider info on a Demon's remaster? Or should we consider the recent server shut down as the final nail in the coffin for this series?

PS:loving your guides and work on the Soulsborne series. Keep up the great work, thanks!

[Fextralife]

@ultranova

Thanks for the kind words! And well I can't really comment on insider info or I would not remain an insider long haha.

I do hope a demons remaster or sequel happens. :)

[jznrpg]

Shadow Tower woild be dope , whatever it is I will most likely like it

[Fextralife]

Indeed From seems to be in a really good spot right now

[showtimefolks]

I thought it was bloodborne 2 but I thought that Sony would officials reveal it

[StrawberryDiesel420]

It will be revealed with a gameplay trailer in the not too distant future, guaranteed.

[Fextralife]

The absence of a Sony mention does discount many points from the possibility of Bloodborne. But if From and Sony titles were on that screen, we would all factually know it's Bloodborne 2 so it's possible the omission was on purpose.

[StrawberryDiesel420]

I will be surprised if this isn't a Bloodborne 2 teaser. It appears to be some type of trick weapon starting up in the trailer. Just doesn't seem to fit Tenchu. The aesthetic of this trailer screams horror in my opinion which is more in tune with Bloodborne. Add in the amazing sales and critical acclaim the first game received in conjunction with a heavy demand for a sequel...methinks it's a no-brainer. Also...I believe shadows die twice is definitely another Bloodborne reference relating to the theme of dying and its relevance to the game.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Because I only played a little bit of blood-borne I'm not really sure how much of a reference it actually is but I would say anything regarding dying would be Souls reference stuff, so basically could be Dark Souls demon souls or even blood-borne.

Who knows.

[Babadook7]

You need to play Bloodborne dude.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@babadook- lol I'm working on it

I'm looking to continue my playthrough after I complete the Yakuza remake.

[nitus10]

If you feel you are not that good with Bloodborne it is best to get familiar with all the weapons and pretty much stick to the one you feel comfortable with since you can go a long way into the game using your preferred weapon.

I found the best way to do the above was to choose a weapon then play for about an hour then restart the game and choose a different weapon then again play for an hour. Do this for all weapons then make a choice.

Learning how to parry is a skill which can make battles so much easier. Even using the unusual magic can be very useful in battles and some low-level spells can be a "one hit kill" (Nightmare Frontier) on some creatures that would normally require multiple hits from powerful weapons.

[Vanfernal]

Well, the kanji looking characters plus the Japanese sounding flute give it a distinct eastern feeling. Plus the Tenchu series is pretty intertwined with the theme of shadows. Not to mention after Rikimaru died he came back to life while his "shadow" took on his role while he was gone. The aesthetic just doesn't seem to fit Bloodborne, which had a very particular Victorian setting.

[Fextralife]

Indeed, but one could argue that a prequel set in Asia (where Yamamura, the "old hunter" comes from) is a possibility. That said, it could very well be Kuon (old horror game of From).
It's fun to guess, and they know how we are, so they tease us!

[nitus10]

Unless "From Software" is going to team up with "Acquire Corp" https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... then you can forget about a new addition to the "Tenchu" series.

Like it or not the new game will either be Bloodborne 2 or (preferably) a new IP based on the Lovecraftian Mythos.

BTW. Don't get me wrong I love the Bloodborne game but I would much prefer a new IP although what I think is more important is the game being able to run at 60fps.

[Fextralife]

@nitus10
It seems fromsoftware bought the tenchu rights in 2004

[Summons75]

I would absolutely love if it were Demon's Souls 2 or Remastered, Bloodborne 2 is more than welcome and we are long overdue for a new Tenchu game but I'd be curious what it would be as a new IP. I know they wanted to take a break from the Souls games which would include Bloodborne since it's the same formula but no matter what it is it's going to be great. Also, they should do a new 3D Dot Game Heroes...that game was highly underrated.

[fenome]

From Software just published 3d dot in Japan. Atlas published it in the West and it was developed by Silicon Studio. It does definitely deserve a sequel.

So does Demon's Souls, Bloodborne, Tenchu or any of those, a new IP would also be welcome. From Soft has turned into one of my favorite devs over the years so I really can't wait to see what they're teasing here.

Still keeping my fingers crossed on Bloodborne though. I can't get enough of that game, I want more.

[greywolf39]

This is not bloodborne 2. You can say that easily by the text in background and other things

[windblowsagain]

Bloodbourne is better then Demon/Darksouls imo.

[cyber_daemonx]

Hopefully we'll find out on Friday.

[Edito]

Be Tenchu please i love that game...